Transcript: GM Farcaster ep109, May 24, 2024

NounishProf, adrienne · GM Farcaster

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gm farcaster it is a happy friday may 24th and you are here with nautilus professor and adrianne for 29 minutes of forecasting news to start your day and we have so many fun things happening today so we're gonna start with our news then we're gonna talk about this right there

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pointing to your background

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my background is cast out so we'll talk about that and then we'll talk about adrian's background so but first

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but first we have so much happening there has been a lot going on since we last saw you and it's been pretty pretty amazing we had a pretty amazing couple of days let's start with this this was from whoops that was not the one i wanted to show first there we go this is from bollard just celebrating the e etf and we also had our friends from matcha doing something similar and getting excited about it and then we had this from now 40 which has the actual information about what the sec had approved so the eth etf has been approved you can see that eth was was taking some some jumps it was very volatile the past couple of days it did take a little dip when it looked like things were being delayed so it had a it had a moment so you know those of us who are eth maxis weren't really paying that much attention to that part but it's exciting and the other thing that happened is we had bitcoin pizza day and part of that was stand with crypto was everywhere and so that was exciting and one of the things they were talking about was also f i t 21 which passed the house and that was a huge deal so this is from stan with crypto yesterday the crypto community shared a historic legislative victory fit 21 a bill that would codify a market structure for our industry to thrive in america passed the house of representatives with bipartisan support this outcome is the result of advocates coming together in an unprecedented way over the past week our advocate base grew by 250 k and contacted their congresspeople over 29,000 times congress heard us loud and clear we hope that this success can inspire and invigorate you this work is hard but it's fun when we do it together and when we do it together we win and thank you for standing with crypto and the photos most of the photos in there are from bitcoin pizza day and the different events that were happening all around the globe this is from the us different places in the us with the stand with crypto signs and this bottom one is from new york where you were and yes

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and you wanna see a party favor i brought home from new york

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what was a yes please i have to show that

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i'm saving it for you

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yay i see it

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yes i know you can it's the it's this dan with crypto sign that i'm gonna say

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you can put

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it in your office

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thank you my office which is now my my kitchen but anyway but it's awesome i love it i can't wait to i can't wait to grab one i was i was so jealous of those signs

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i took the train back from just so you know the commuter train back from new york city back to my home and there was a yankee game so all of the everyone's like everyone jumped on my train and it was kinda later at night and it got super super crowded with drunk people from the yankee game and i had my sign and i was like

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no one

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and no one just said anything

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no no one's ever it was funny it was a funny scene

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it was funny and this was from that event also this is you farcaster changes you i love that a wild adrianne streaming to unlonely irl and that was awesome we had a great stream the other night with different parties that were happening all around the world and it was a lot of fun and we talked a lot about staying with crypto as well that night and the different positive things that have been happening this week in crypto so how how was it for you did you have fun

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it was awesome

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cool always right anytime you're irl with with with your people awesome it looked amazing i was very jealous i was like oh i wish i was there everybody's there it looks so fun but i was i was glad to be able to stream some of those and we'll do it better next year now that we figured some things out

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and this was yeah we kinda gotta do the shitty version first

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so we gotta you know we do thank you all for our brand

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it's a brand shitty version first is our brand it's our new name but i i it still was it was fun it was still fun even though it was you know sound was challenging this was from david tifang i thought this was amazing to see and we're gonna have him on in a couple weeks to talk about his adventure on capitol hill naugles irl in the capitol hill rotunda i loved this but he also met with his congressperson to talk about fit 21 and crypto in general and i thought this was amazing and you you had chatted with him a little bit about coming on and talking about all of this

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so yeah so we'll get his we'll get his take not next week the week after

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right on i think it was june 4th he's gonna be on we have so many things happening you have no idea next up this i thought this was great from from rish lots of cool things happening today e g f i t 21 but on a smaller scale of things if you're building frames follow n f s we will be posting more updates we are no code frame studio in that channel meaning yes we have been building more into it so that is pretty cool there you go for those of you who need speed and aren't moving slow so just on that note but in the big news here's the big news and we're going to do a whole show on this on tuesday we're doing a special show tuesday correct at 11 am eastern with nonlinear and alex from airstack and possibly jtgi did he ever wake up yet

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or he's buried so we'll see anyone else in by i kinda just called if you are building channel moderation tool tooling hit us up because we wanna spotlight you but and maybe say angel who does not our bot bot not our not or bot or not or not sorry it's a friday not our bot yeah we'll

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do it nutter butter whatever he's doing whatever that thing is he's doing

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anyway so there's been changes to the channels you are starting with no moderation if your channel changed over the other day you have no moderation right now and you might be able to tell that because i could immediately so this is how you turn on moderation how do i turn on moderation for my channel 1 web only to start edit channel in the little pencil button configure moderation and choose your moderator note when you turn on moderation the channel will appear as a single feed with no filtering for a few minutes while we generate the new main feed so this is some of the basics here and then oh this is a good question from linda just to confirm when moderation is on and i set myself as moderator i don't have to like my casts in order for them to show up in the feed right and the answer was no yes you do you do need to like your cast and they're trying to figure out how to make that automatic but i believe if you're using something like auto mod you can set so there's a few different tools right now that can help with some of this moderating auto mod is 1 nonlinear is doing something with hypersub as well and then we also have airstack that is doing some moderation tools also so you have a few different options and have and i still haven't had time to explore them all and really understand what's available this was from betashop what's on the roadmap for air stack channel moderation and who pays you can see below and there's a whole notion to dive into that and then with johnny with automod sorry can i create a team of curators with automod yes you can give anyone with fid the ability to curate posts into main add them as a moderator in automod and have them install the cast action below next week you'll have the option to make it automatic from likes so that i believe would mean like you would i'm actually not sure what that means i think the i know this

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as long as you if if you're added as a curator and you like a cast it automatically up votes it the the big change with with these channels went from the previous moderation tools were kind of penalty so it was punishing the bad so you find things you don't want and you either have options to hide casts right you can hide silently you can warn and hide you can ban people but it was all stick based incentives and it's kind of a switch now to carrot based which is promote the good so if you find good things it's the now you can it's more of a curation based right

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right

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than a than a moderation

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i think that's a great way to put it

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mentorship based of like

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so so being able to also with some of these tools say anyone who holds this particular nft automatically their posts are gonna show up in the main feed they're essentially curated automatically and that's essentially what nonlinear is doing with hypersub and some of the experiment he was doing early on is that you can essentially if you have that particular hypersub you can then configure this so that everyone is able to post and he's using that for memes for example so it's changing from channel pass which he was using before to hyper sub where you have a subscription and are able to cast in that channel so interesting i am

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very excited for tuesday's kind of deep dive because there's there's a lot so kind of what happened is merkle really trimmed down the functionality that you get kind of out of the box because the idea is we're gonna put as minimal as possible into the protocol and then all the other features and functionality will be built in different layers in a composable way but now it's kind of utter chaos yesterday in my opinion if ever i'd say yeah maybe in my experience because it's like you lose you're losing features you have things that are available to you but some of it is how do you curate and create a feed but it opens up the door to so much monetization options as well not everyone wants that so it's my mind has not yet logically compartmentalized the different pieces that you want you know the different lego blocks if you will of how to properly create a a good channel and some channels are community some can be businesses some can be you know so so there's just a lot and i have to i have to apologize to dan not even apologize but i have so much empathy for anyone building anything because he's been talking about these changes nonstop for weeks yep he's put out information he's in group chats with people channel popular channel hosts telling people what's coming telling people what's coming and then the change comes and everyone's like what happened what did you do you ruined everything why didn't you tell us why didn't you tell us this was coming so it's hard

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speaking of that since you mentioned it disgruntled user i'm going to escalate the matter dwr i'm the manager so if you didn't catch this

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so you know as you experience some challenges and you might and we all are because it's a change and change is painful you know approach it nicely like if you have feedback dan's open to it if you're gonna be threatening

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just don't just don't escalate don't escalate to twitter

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escalate to twitter so that's what part of this message was i don't want to tweet yet so in other words that like you know it's interesting it's an interesting threat but you know approach it as you know that assume positive motives here

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and it's okay if things aren't great for a few days

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yeah yeah it's fine

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right like we're

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yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be a little bumpy but it'll be fine you know don't don't get too overly concerned i haven't done i specifically haven't turned anything on yet because i just wanted to give it a minute and really evaluate the options that were kind of coming really fast and i wasn't sure which one was going to be best for different channels i'm assuming that i'm going to try a couple of different types of moderation in different channels and then see what works best so what's going to work best for a dao is not going to work best for gm forecaster and and you know what i mean so they just have different purposes so anyway but it does if you need

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a broadcaster it's clear that i'm the one single ruler leader absolutely i mean obviously give me all the power unlike the daos

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i mean of course unlike the daos they have to share power and it's yeah i think we we literally still haven't talked about it so we'll see what happens so this is from johnny at farcon dwr said something like any subreddit with greater than 20,000,000 people should be a 10,000,000 annual recurring revenue business and this relates to what you were saying just a minute ago but that'll never happen why because it's against reddit's interest so they won't let it all value will accrue to them and only them not so with farcaster powerful channel tools are here the time is now and i thought that was really interesting and that's sort of what you mentioned felt a little bit overwhelming as well is thinking through that aspect of do you have a channel that could be monetized should should it be monetized there's a could and then there's a should and there's a

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and then there's a how

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and then there's a how so there's a lot to figure out so in this case maybe taking it slow depending on who you are and how many channels you have that's the other problem i have a lot of channels that i have to manage now similar to how i have a lot of domain names but i did think that was interesting and then we had a similar thought from mcbain i've been a little bit in shock that decentralized channels are finally here i have so much to say this is such a big deal it's a media outlet you can own for $25 with new tooling coming out every day for you to use all of which has seamless payments integration damn so i mean that that's the part that like is just i think sinking in of all these different options that we have so it's a lot there's a few other things happening as well this was new so i was in my dms and then all of a sudden i had warpcast verified and with a notification to something that i that is notification only also which is interesting so in other words group group not even a group chat a direct message a direct cast notification coming in so this is programmable direct cast that we've been talking about for a couple weeks now that can be sent from an account as sort of a as an alert so that's what this was about when dan had post had posted our casted please follow the warp cast account we're planning to use it for rare but important updates via programmable dcs and then that was this particular update it also led to some new pasta so in case you in case you're interested please follow the hyperbolic okay

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remember last year there were i mean when dcs came out it was immediate people's yeah spamming and squatting on names and trying to you know spam you from break fake brand accounts trying to get you to do things so it takes some time so i was happy to see the verified

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yes oh the verified yes

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yeah you and then

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there were things that hasn't even been discussed yet i don't even know i'm like that's why i was like this is new what's the verified i check mark and it and there still hasn't been like clarity around that so have you heard anything about that specifically no okay i thought maybe i missed something

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no but i know last year people were buying for or creating forecaster accounts like you know warpcast team warpcast support and then and then dm ing people with links malicious links

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so be careful out there so that's why the verified makes a lot of sense but we haven't heard more about how do you get that little check so we'll see there's been too many other things happening so back to the copypasta please follow the hyperbot account we use it for rare but important updates via programmable dcs so and i did get one from them as well and then this from pinata please follow the pinata cloud account we never use it but it saves the handle and it will give you a touch of whimsy so there we go we love pinata

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that's why we love pinata oh i have my penny hat on

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i love them

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i think it's funny when new brands come in or they'll check our like someone someone actually checked our gm forecaster account and it's like but we haven't cast in 3 months it must not be very active and it's like oh we should change the you should put in this actually if you're a brand maybe this is the new thing in your description you should probably write don't cast just follow the actual people go to the channel and follow the people

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i think i have in i think i have our channel in our description too because i think i have that noted because of that reason because we yeah we hardly ever use it it's not easy to switch between accounts on you can't very hard on mobile you can do it with supercast there are ways to also do it now and there was a and i missed that cast but there was a cast about going in and out they've made it a little easier

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yes i'm building the hootsuite hootsuite of for farcaster

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right yes and we do need that because it makes it's it is it is a little challenging at the moment so anyway moving on

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go crypto has to make everything hard

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i know but it'll be good in the long run and you know it's just a matter of time things get easier every

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day share my password with people and you know we just have the same okay sorry

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just kidding we have you know these security things and opsec it's very annoying

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just kidding people let's move on

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it's a joke so this from varun we're thinking so this was a response to vitalik's comment farcaster should have near unlimited length messages like twitter having used it for a while i feel like twitter's long message feature improves its user experience and its usefulness for high quality discussion and then varun's response was we're thinking a lot about this idea the two paths are storing data off chain using meta tags and embedding and expanding them in posts or building them natively as message type both have important trade offs that need explored if anyone is interested in this topic we're open to draft fips so that's definitely it's the whoopi spamming yeah so that was i thought that was interesting and then there was a comment and i missed that cass but another comment about this is you know customer service at its finest right it tastes like i think it was yours actually did you casa i think it might have been you about like that you know metallic post this and then you know a week later we have yeah we're thinking about this so if you're wondering if they see your messages they do they really do

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do you like long form do you want long form

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i think it's useful in a lot of cases yes i could yes i would like to see long form i i think screenshot essays and threads threads are hard to do on war cast they're much easier to do on twitter because you can just build it all and then hit and it sends all of them out at once

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so long form to me is a is a is a good option as well like i think it's there are times when you want to see the full thoughts and not have to break them up as well so we have workarounds but i like long form yeah i like the option

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well i very much do not like long form in my in my feed i love long form content but as i on the screen i i am going to lose this battle because there are way more there are people way more influential than me like wallet beta shop no it is probably who will be who have been asking for elon like i mean that was i was joke i was like laughing i'm like my elon

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has no power here

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my revealed preference though like look at my twitter usage as soon as long form came i was like meh it's not what i want but guess what i'm gonna lose that battle but i will go down i don't

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think it takes weeks away but i think it depends on how you do it so i know that they're thinking about it and they're not just i think that's an important point like they think about things before they pop them out there and try to find the best approach so it's not like they're having a knee jerk reaction to the feedback but at least they're giving it some thought

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and yes to the chat i know it sounds like an opportunity for a client i'm going to create it's called twitter sure formally broadcaster

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and to kbc who also doesn't like long form content okay so let's rally an army please go to my cast that i responded to at maroon and blow it up and stand behind me and we're gonna fight this and all i i just my experience is i just very much separate the when i scanning to me is yes a little entertainment but it's discovery so it's like my brain is in fast mode which is scan scan scan scan find the things then i tag things off for my deep thinking mode and i like to keep long form in its corner

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okay alright i mean to each where's

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my army where's my separate army okay move on

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this is pretty

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thank you iso deep thinking mode for the win

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deep thinking mode we want deep thinking mode separated from our scrolling mode

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i bring can't do both

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i have times where though i just need like one more sentence it's not even long form sometimes but anyway that's another issue so okay this also from veru

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we're we're running out hold on i'm i'm sorry when you say you need one more sentence as a write as an author of a cast or as a reader of a cast

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as a author of a cast what i'm and sometimes it's very much related to i'm posting something about gm barcaster and i need one more sentence because keep this in mind any links that you put in there take away from your yeah so that's why it's not it's there

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are really interesting yeah so i actually wanna break out so for all the people fighting for long form i wanna know is it as the writer wants it or as the reader because by the way the game of like let me trim down all my extra spaces and word it's a super fun game to play don't get that away from me

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she likes the editing she likes the editing

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who doesn't it's so much fun

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it's really not especially when it's not like i said a lot of times it's because the zora link is taking up a lot of a lot of my real estate okay let's move on but we'll i'm guarantee you we'll be circling back like this will this conversation will continue this is actually a good one for your for the writer's hackathon too it's a good conversation to have we're running experiments to fine tune to the warp cast feed if you see anything that gets better or worse let us know here's how it works today at a high level selection find a cast that you might want to see ranking determine the best cast ordering rearrange them to keep things fresh so this is interesting if you're seeing something that like you don't like the way your feed's looking or you do comment here so they know what's working and what is not also i thought this was very cool using a bounty caster to fix a problem that had stumped the entire team so varun still amazes me that this bug stumped our entire team and was fixed in less than a day after we posted a bounty on bounty caster linda and i think that's daniel are onto something big also frederick is very good so that was cool to see that you know bounty cast are solving problems

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see this is why i'm gonna go this is a beautiful cast he could have written a really long cast explaining why this is so special but he did short it's sweet there are layers and layers of love how you brought this back to that there are layers of subtext in that cast that if you get it you get it so by the way you can't see this but in my phone i just emailed myself for the writing hackathon write an essay about why long form doesn't belong in my feed boom okay how beautiful is open source right i mean this in there but go back to varun's right so it's like

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especially i'm small team

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small elite team of devs there's an issue it's bothering us like what happens when you put your problems to the world to the world talent pool yeah someone's gonna fix it so

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someone's gonna fix it rather than banging your head against the wall trying to fix it ask for help

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ask for help open source it to the world and beautiful things happen

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okay i need to get through a few a few more things and then we gotta jump to our big outcast announcement cast out announcement okay i'm gonna keep doing that i know it base announcing the 10th wave of 2024 base builder grants bull eyed the easiest way to interact with your favorite memes on base shout out to oxbid we love you bonhomme for offline nostalgia generative project using iyk chips austin griffith the scaffold eth an open source toolkit and chafer a toko an on chain legal entity protocol so very cool and there was a few others in here too ardenum for surreal token cash for crypto scavenger hunt fresh crypto live a gas efficient way to store passkeys and mico mico migos an nft collection so this is very cool congratulations to all the builders

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justin from pluder mines from pinata this was we're excited to announce what feels like such an obvious partnership to us pinata is now working with nanar to help handle our farcaster apis and infrastructure they'll also be helping farcaster devs get onboarded to ipfs through us so read more here and there's more of a long form blog which you can dive into and read all about it thought you'd appreciate that the long form goes is a link this from matcha last week we launched custom and dynamic urls that allow you to share save your exact trades on matcha.xyz tldr when you set a trade on matcha the url changes to match and here's how it works again there you go there's a video tutorial you can click the link for the long form information and now let's do our last thing cast out is coming june 3rd so this is our new survivor like game that's going to have 16 players hopefully hopefully i'm waiting on 4 more to answer me we'll see so we may be maybe searching for some backup players hold on but we'll let you know and today we're going to announce the first 12 of those players and adrianne being one of them and i'll tell you a little bit more about it so what we're gonna be doing is on june 3rd we're gonna launch there will be 2 tribes similar to original survivor and 2 tribes of 8 they will have team challenges for the first three challenges where they'll have to work together every challenge is some kind of relation to farcaster it it's either in a frame it's in a channel it is using some kind of infra or some kind of software or app or something that relates to farcaster so all of these have been designed to do that adrienne has no idea what's happening by the way has no clue because i've been doing this in the background we decided you know figured out she was gonna play and get the player experience and so i've been building all this and she has no clue and i just keep like it's surprising her with things so it's gonna be a lot of fun on tuesday thursday throughout june so this is an on chain summer activation we'll have a special show so we'll go at noon tuesdays thursdays and my cohost will be tim riley for the first few because adrian will be playing and during that time is when we'll announce who's been cast out because each week or each not each week but each challenge somebody will be cast out of the game and leave the game until we have one final winner a sole survivor if you will who will win a 100,000 degen dollars which is no a 100,000 degen sorry which someday might be equal to a $100,000 if you believe in the prophecy of degen to a dollar but for now it's a 100,000 degen and it's sitting in a prize wallet right now so there you go so there's gonna be a lot of like fun implementations that i'm pulling from the game from survivor including hidden immunity idols so this is gonna be a lot of fun i've been having a ball pulling this together and now here is your official peek hold on oops of the

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by the way yes there will be a bracket game

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there oh yes there is a bracket oh i i missed that part when i mentioned tim that was my point of mentioning tim that's why tim is gonna be with us so tim there we're having a bracket game where you will be able to support your favorite player and maybe win a little in the process so that will get more details on that next week we'll be announcing that that'll be launching next week with a special opportunity for our hyper sub holders active hyper sub holders so if you have a wow wow and you let it slide or mole and you let it slide now is the time to add add some time on because we're gonna have something very special related to bracket game next next week

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and shout out nonlinear who added i think a new feature

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to hypersub that if you follow you can get a direct cast reminding you when your subscriptions are going to that was the hyperbot

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yeah yeah

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yeah so you can

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add stuff that that's yeah that was part of that so usb card you show up on the screen

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that's funny

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and unknowingly and for people who are listening youtube gives us the ability to see to pop comments onto our video and it's going to come to unlonely right grace and brian

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i hope i hope speaking of grace and brian

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because it's really

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so now what i wanna do is show you and adrianne has no idea she has not seen this who the other players are gonna be and this is not i have not split them into their tribes yet they will have 2 tribes that will battle it out first and hopefully be civil to each other so here we go this is the players

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so there you go that was your first eket players who are gonna be playing the season 0 of cast out we have 4 more that i'm just waiting on to make official and and here we go yeah so we've already isto just asked how are you picking the remaining the remaining competitors there have been invitations sent out so for this round i did this by invitation only just because i wanted to set expectations that this is a little bit of a beta beta beta trial here so we'll see how this goes and i wanted people who could you know do some honest feedback and things like that there are 4 that are out there that i'm waiting for responses from and then we'll announce those as well and it's been interesting there's been a few people who had to decline for time commitment purposes and i have to say i invited grin to play and the reason he's not playing he's going on vacation at the end of june and i said you know more than half of the people will be out by the 3rd challenge because we're gonna do a having so and he said no if i'm playing i'm playing to win so i was like okay i was like next time he's like no no no

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yeah i just actually moved my entire summer plans around so i canceled everything i so my dad was going on vacation without me at the end

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of june they're just going they're just going yeah heavyweight is you know in the middle of demo days coming all this stuff she's like yeah competition even though i'm in the middle of 17 i don't i'm still playing yep so it's are you gonna

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post that video are you gonna post the t the trailer

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after this i'm gonna post the t the the the trailer i'm gonna post more information i'm gonna post we'll start posting about each of the each of the players very soon it was a lot of fun i'm excited for this i hope you noticed that both brian and grace are playing they will not be on the same track i'm gonna tell you right now so there are certain people that will be on different tribes so yep art lou was one of the folks who couldn't who did put this around and i was gonna put he and kristen on different tribes just for fun so guan wars so this is gonna be a lot of fun i'm really excited for it i i've been having a lot of fun pulling together the challenges and all that so we're going to have a blast

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and i'm so jealous all of a sudden and i've been like in my nerd corner planning a writing hackathon what

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well things are good things are good

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now i need to make a fun teaser for

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for a for the friday night

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right i need a trailer you need

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a trailer and i keep trying i wanted to use the whole subscriber theme song and then i was like i'm gonna get shut down by cbs before i even get started i'm like no we'll just use a little bit i've been like very slowly like figuring out my lines to how far i can go with with the branding with the trying to avoid copyright infringement yeah that's our attorney that's you no that's me let's ask our copyright and trademark attorney oh wait that would be me anyway we've got a little long but i i knew that i wanted to share all this with you all and i'm excited that adrian's gonna be playing this is gonna be a lot of fun we'll have more information about bracket game next week from tldr and crew and like i said if you are a one of our hyper sub subscribers make sure your subscription is active you're gonna have some benefits coming to you next week in regards to cast out so yay and shout out to brennan dot eth my noun ish duck friend who gave me the better name because i was gonna call it surviving surviving forecaster and he's like that's an awful name and i'm like i know but i can't think of a better one can you come up with one and he gave me cast out and i was like that's a better one good job brennan thank you brennan all right and with that we're gonna call it and today i'm actually bringing up some closing credits i'm trying to keep everything self contained for easier editing and also for those who are watching back

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the live chat was on fire today

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so on fire you guys were great today cracking up

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i think it's it's gotta be the well it's a good news week too

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great news week i think everyone's in a happy mood it's a happy friday eat this pumping life is good

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yeah if you're listening to the recording we love you too but not as we love you too we love the yeah but not as much as we love the live chat

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we do love our live chat and if you haven't joined us for a live chat you really should sometime you really really should come jump into unlonely and chat with us or on youtube either one but i'm lonely where the where the real fun is at so jump in there and with that we will see you and adrian don't leave but don't say anything cause i'm about to play our closing credits now this is new and with that we will see you next week on monday we are going to be regular show on monday because like it's a holiday do you want to take the day off and i'm like not really i'm like i have nothing going on at 8:30 in the morning the memorial day that's fine we were here we were here on january 1st i don't know if you remember so there you go so we'll be here monday 8:30 am and then 11 am on tuesday for a special show with all the different moderation tools that you can that you can find for channels and we will see you then and with that bye bye