Transcript: GM Farcaster ep164 Friday October 4, 2024

NounishProf, Adrienne · GM Farcaster

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g m farcaster and you it is friday october 4th and you are here with nana schroeff and adrianne 4:29 minutes of farcaster to start your day and adrienne's clicking the buttons today because she's gonna be taking over next week for a couple of the days without me and it's gonna be fun so on monday you're gonna have a guest cohost links and then on wednesday kristen and cameron are gonna be popping in and taking over for me so this is gonna be really fun and then i'll be back on friday to chat about everything that i'll be doing next week which is nownestown so if you're in la there's a couple events that you can come to in the venice beach area so just look up my profile for those and would love to see you or if you're gonna be at nownestown i'll see you there and yeah so i'm excited but i'll be reporting about all of that and how are you feeling about this adrienne

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oh so

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you've only done this once before

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i'm so excited because i get to click the buttons i've done it once before it was meh

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but also while you're usually getting things set up i'm casting to tell people we're live

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so i

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don't know if i'm gonna do be do that next week so go subscribe to our event frame yeah there you go you can get notified and or better yet don't watch the show next week i don't want i say don't be there adrienne

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you don't tell people not to watch that's the only person on the planet who's like don't watch our show

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it's not gonna be good you guys have no idea professor is like the full time producer showrunner and i just show up and i'm not even sure react to things you're gonna say good luck if you're not in the bus that i'm doing this on my own

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please come back on monday please don't don't listen to her please come it'll be fine it's gonna be fine and you'll have you have some good cohosts that are gonna help you out and they'll they'll help keep things fun so don't worry it's gonna be great oh my god i'm dying

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link's told me he's gonna play your part

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oh perfect which is okay i don't know what that means but i'm looking forward to it

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excited and enthusiastic and he told me i can still be i can still be adrian's face

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you could still be adrian okay great this is gonna be fun i'm gonna be looking forward to trying to catch well i'll catch the recordings because i'll be on a plane for the first one and the second one i'll probably be asleep

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and i know what we're talking about today and i have some skepticism in my pocket ready to bring out so let's go

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fantastic i'm really excited about that so let's dive in here we go it's it's we've got a lot going on there's a lot going on so i'm gonna start with something a little easier and that is farcaster fridays or tonight so if you are go look in the farcaster fridays channel while it's still there i don't know what's going to happen later today so go look now and we have a url version that i'll be hosting right here on our youtube and twitter channels we're gonna play some poker so burberry who is a professional poker player and has burfriend's poker club is gonna be cohosting this with me we'll also have the fabulous todie hawk and sparks aka jc will be with us and a few other players from burfriends that will be playing and we're gonna be playing for 10 k d gen but you can come watch and i might have something for a little something for the spectators so make sure you jump in or better yet if there is an irl version of farcaster fridays near you and there is in many of the big cities at least please go check that out so i know london's probably starting a few hours from now there's usually one in paris new york la all the big cities so please go check that out in the farcaster fridays channel alright moving on we're gonna talk about channels and then we're gonna talk about the ui change and then we're gonna talk about all the other things i have a lot to to get through we're gonna do our best because also adrian has a hard stop so this is gonna be fun we're gonna we're gonna fun we're gonna just

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hope a treat for you i just casted something from this show as we're talking don't look keep doing we have we are on a time budget today because i do have a hard stop and i'm excited for you to see it so if you're watching you can go look but don't tell profanity okay

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i can't look okay i'll look at i'll look later so we have a channels update launching today friday october 4th at 1 pm pacific which is 4 pm east eastern developer apis have been live for a bit and you can learn more at the notion doc that is available from dan it has all the information that you really need for channel owners or for developers so what you can take a look at this so the the plan is to minimize the work for these changes so there will be a way to convert your channel's active followers to members or you can use other types of moderation and there's a few different options happening right now and there's also communication coming from the team so you'll see that coming through your direct cast as well one big thing that one big question that a lot of people have is about replies i'm not reading that i already know that i'm happy for you i'm happy for you oh i'm sorry that happened

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so regarding replies only members of a channel will be able to create a new cast in a channel anyone can reply to a cast in a channel however warp the members of that channel will appear above the fold and the nonmembers will be below the fold in show more replies and this caused me to say gen z has no idea what above the fold means because this is a newspaper term

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i'm not even sure if dan knows

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i i know so you know what he does he's he he definitely does

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i'm not even sure if the millennials really know what above the fold means

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so in a newspaper it used to be folded and you would see the front top and you'd have to flip it over to see the bottom half of the front page of the newspaper so if you were below the fold it was less important so in this case this is the show more replies area so this is going to change the way that channels work and hopefully is going to create cozier corners and different experiences or as mcbain said they are changing channels to sort us for lizard conversion could be one possibility and then also you will be getting messages if if you're a channel owner from the warpcast account these are legit so don't don't be worried so there are there are legit messages coming from the work cast team into your into your

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but if we were yeah but but remember at some point there were spoofs so yes there's always gonna be someone a few steps behind trying to do work cast slash announcements yep not the right account so there's still like a a need to make sure you're getting dms from the right account so

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right so just make sure it's at warp cast spelled correctly absolutely yeah definitely skeptical that is adrienne's face right there with her skepticism this is one of the ways in which you can moderate your channel hypersub so new on hypersub hyper mod so starting friday channels will require this is from nonlinear starting friday channels will require membership to cast or reply when enabled if someone mints time on your hypersub they'll receive an automatic direct cast inviting them to become a channel member hypersub farcaster memberships are on chain free pay what you want or price accept payments with crypto credit cards automatically add remove members based on subscription status if you've been thinking about creating hypersub for your channel now is a good time to get started and we will be using our hypersub in the gm farcaster channel i'm making some adjustments right now because i did upgrade to the latest hypersub to make all this work and they also have tiers so i'm gonna be moving some things around today but i've been getting it ready for this purpose so

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your my your to do list cast from yesterday is starting to make sense

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does it now yeah that was i i was not having a good day so if i have to make a to a to do list it means i've lost the thread because

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usually

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i just can keep it in my head of i need to do this i need to do this and i'll look at my calendars but if i make a to do list not a good sign it means i'm it means i have way too much going on so that was me yesterday cute penguin i always try to use the cute penguins or goggles or preferably cute penguins with knuckles so yeah so that was me yesterday also there's other options for moderating your channels modbot which is new is i think taking the place of audobon will also allow for icebreaker attestations to be supported so icebreaker attestations will be supported by modbot on day 1 post channel relaunch we'll share some great use cases soon but the following three credentials are available out of the box human queue builder verified arbitrary attestations are also supported so if you want to dig in a little deeper try something different you can take a look at this option as well so that's pretty cool using attestations and then we also have moxie fan tokens so a lot of folks will be using the channel fan tokens for channel memberships so this is another option that you can use from moxie and from airstack so this will give you if you take a look at betashop's account you'll see a video that kind of dives into how that's gonna work and i liked this cast from betashop as well my 2¢ on how to manage channels in the new reality that starts friday make membership costs something meaningful dollars deters spam make every member feel like an owner you don't shit where you eat be okay with cast from members that you don't necessarily like yourself ban bad actors fast and frequently show your community that there are acceptable and unacceptable norms so i think that is good advice for some channels not necessarily all i think for some of our more topic related channels i think those are gonna be trickier i think those and and this depends on who you are and and you know what your channel is but those should be more free or a little bit more open in some way so you might wanna default to just pulling in your active people who are active in those channels anyway so if you're the fitness channel for example or you know books you might wanna keep it a little broader to allow for more conversation because i think if you limit too much in something like that it's gonna get weird frankly yeah

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well there's some continuum of like hashtag which is right you know to very tight knit community with yeah like a gated you know gated community yeah and you wanna can kind of slide your scale on yeah

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i think we kind of have had that anyway but most people weren't using any kind of auto mod really most people were kind of keeping it open but for channels like i've been you know managing the builderdao channel for a while and that one is gated to members of builderdao and we just use auto mod for that so you have channels like that where it makes sense because honestly no one else is really gonna be interested anyway in what's going on in that channel unless you are a member and then you have these very broad channels music like you're you know that's so appealing to many people that you're not gonna wanna get it yeah so i agree that's more like a hashtag so that's spectrum so

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and i think and you can still go i mean there's lots of this is the composability right so different people are creating different ways to manage your your channel but you can still go full old school and do it manually yes like just through the web through the ui through warpcast which is just here's your list of people and the you plus up to 9 i think additional moderators can kind of yeah decide who's in or out yester crypto just said that dgen fans made a channel gatekeeper frame that people can use to request membership that's cool i think that's necessary because once you do your kind of original here's the here's the community how do you get more people in if they don't know kind of exactly how to yeah

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yeah and there's a lot of different things that are popping up and there is a a new kit channel kit that is was put out by zach terrell and i asked him for the github and i looked at the github and i went this is not for me

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what do you mean

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first of all nothing on a github should be for me it's really for devs so i wasn't sure if it was something easy we could use but it started with you're gonna need these seven things and the first thing was like something that ended in dotjs and i node.js and i'm like okay i'm out i don't

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know what happened you expect asking for a github repo i don't know i didn't know that's

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what i was asking for it said ask for more information i gotta get it

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for like a channel kit yeah channel kit sounds like

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like can i get access to this let me see if it's something we can use and i went oh this is not for me

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by the way total tangent but i've been working on a github repository to open source the writing hackathon framework which you will not need a dot js file for it's just a it it's just english word it's just words

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and i am gonna get the hackathon the the final thing out this weekend for sure before i take off i promise i promise

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i didn't mean

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to shut it all up no you should you should it's it's been sitting in my inbox on my to do list if you will for way too long so again this is from zach terrell new open source farcaster frame channel kit automatically approved denied channel membership requests based on custom criteria and this may be what fans may have been tapping into to create their frame i'm not sure mit license meant to be customized and improved by the community step by step guide for setup signer creation customization and deployment to vercel i missed that word vercel when i looked at this the first time i should yeah i did i missed that part i was like oh step by step guide can i have that

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i bet you could i bet i bet you could deploy to vercel though

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i i have actually done that i've worked with vercel before but i mean like there was just many pieces of this though built in verifications using nana r fabric and open rank dm or reply here if you're a channel owner interested in using channel kit but remember it is for the technically inclined

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awesome

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that's great yestercrypto just said that as a no code solution

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d gen fan's frame is no code yes

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no code so just great so let me before we jump into the next topic and the then the 27 other links that we have to get to in the next 10 minutes i think we won't really know a lot i think you know to to naomi's earlier con comment we're just gonna have to find out right we're just gonna have to once it launches play around figure out what works best but expect that the next couple of days are gonna be a lot of activity a lot of like buzz but also probably some frustration if any of the previous launches big launches have been indicators so be patient just be patient it'll be fine you'll figure it out we'll work through this together so anyway moving on we also had a big ui shift and some of it was very tiny little things that everybody noticed so we talked about that the other day that people had noticed the slight change in the font and i was like wow attention to detail but i'm shocked at how many how many of us were talking about the tiny changes so it was kind of funny but this new on this is from dwr new on warpcast updated home feed design cast and channels now have a label at the top with the logo casts are slimmed down username only merge the action button with counts moved bookmarks to the kebab menu top right the little dots channel circles have been retired and so it looks a little different and then this is a shout out to block i'm and dodad who did 15 variations of this over 3 weeks here's what changed if you can see that so lots of things have changed here circles are gone and most of these changes you're seeing on mobile web has not changed as much there's been some changes but some of the things are still there so one big thing is warp tipping is gone on mobile it's still there on on web for now so i did love this animation so i just wanted to share this part because i love it it's so cute so the warps didn't really go goodbye they just moved they're just they're just different

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unless you're like me and have installed the cast action to give 10 warps

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see i can't find it anymore it has disappeared so i knew there was a cast action and i cannot find it so if you can find that to share that would be fantastic because i could not find it i knew it existed and it needs to be brought back to the forefront for those because july needs it he likes to tip people he like he said he likes to tip people with warps while not liking or commenting he just tips the warps so i found that really funny

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sam is not happy with the change to only her username because cy how will everyone know i'm the crazy candle person so unfortunately she'll have to just keep posting about candles more now because oh well because the user now it just shows your username not your name your profile name it just shows the at whatever and this from triumph that feeling when your username is the same as your display name which i saw adrian also recast that so this is the thing that i was talking about of people noticing tiny little things dot between username and time was overrated and dan misses it he said so even dan didn't have control over everything so there you go he misses the dot and then a lot of people though feel like really good about it new farcaster is clean boy so and then i loved this from blockheim this was super interesting here's a quick behind the scenes summary of all these variations and how we arrived at the final design so i love the openness of this so if you want to learn more about what went into the changes and how they got there here's a full thread of all the things and i thought this was very cool so what do you think of the new design adrienne like i what do you what don't you like i guess i should ask that question

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here's my here's my adrienne's face that i was saving everyone was talking about the glow up and yeah people could talk about nothing but how much they loved the the changes i had a little emperor wearing no clothes moment because i like didn't really notice them that much like it didn't feel that different i'm using you know i restarted my app saw the changes and i was really just mostly questioning myself and why i'm so unobservant or why it didn't like even trigger any sort of emotion in me of like good bad it was just like the same

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alright that's interesting so sorry

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i i really liked it dad and block time i it seems like people really liked your tireless effort over the last few weeks

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i liked it and no complaints just for

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what it's worth no complaints but i just was like oh it's it does it didn't feel that different

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i did like the i like the channel labels i think it makes it a little more obvious there are some issues where things are getting cut off including the bottom of font of the like your if your name has a y in it the bottom of the y is not showing in certain spots so there's a few things that i'm sure are gonna be tweaked but i think it just has a cleaner look and feel so i like it i think it's a it's a good adjustment and yeah so but if you have other things that you don't like dan would like to know so you can drop it in this in the replies here while you can while you're allowed and the big thing that was july

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but you can always reply replies are never gated yeah

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they just might be hidden you just may not see them but yeah i would i would i would think that again like we were talking about before i think there's some things like

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there's some channels that should be broader and more open and i'm guessing that this one will be one of them as well

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i wonder if we'll see people post more into home like will people just avoid channel in the short term because it's like that right the the extra cognitive step of like am i allowed to cast in a channel who's the what is this and and then just default to like not

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this it'll be yeah yeah interesting yeah and mike nucato yeah i don't like usernames instead of names i think this many such cases yeah

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yeah i mean that's the one i think where people had the most opinions on about because that cuts out to me one day

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this is the thing that i have an issue with that's not even happening yet but potentially may and i i had issues so this was in response to dan saying he wanted to get rid of the trending feed and my comment back was getting rid of trending feed is really bad idea it's the one place where you can find interesting content from users that you're not yet following with the change to channels our feeds will be increasingly more siloed so for all of you voting that you don't care please rethink this because it was a poll and i went back and forth a little bit with dan on this but the other thing is i i literally use trending for the show to make sure that i haven't missed anything that is just not showing in my feed and i actually did a video where i showed both my feeds because i was getting pushback that like no something's wrong i'm like no look they're different completely different for me and i do see a lot of people that i am following in that trending feed but i haven't seen those casts so that's the other thing and i think what i figured out was i am following a lot of people so i have you know over 2,000 something people that i'm following or accounts that i'm following so i think that's probably why it's just the volume if you're following less your trending feed and your home feed are probably very similar but if you think about this over time you're going to be following more and more people you bring in new and it's not like you go through and go well if i'm bringing this one in i got to get rid of one nobody does that so it's going to be a problem i think more and more as we move forward so keep the trending feed please dan don't get rid of the trending feed i'll be very sad so that was my one my one gripe that hasn't happened yet

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yeah when you look at the some of the the comments about why people don't want it they do say it tends to be the same people so it's like the same people because there's weighting right so and it's weighted to probably ogs and there's a little anti og sentiment expected and and understandably so i get it but maybe we'll just have to have a little chat with dan about what if they re i i wonder how much effort they go to maintain it if they maintain it right but if you wanna remove it just do a if gm forecaster host display it because we it's very helpful for us because we wanna be the place where you go to get news so it helps so i don't know maybe a

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little toggle a little toggle that would be the best thing if you could toggle it on and off you don't wanna see it it just toggles off or it's a little more hidden or whatever but as long as i can get to it i don't care how it happens but it is

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and someday in our media yeah

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and then

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someday in our media empire building we'll we will have a team of devs and we'll have our own client and we'll have our own and we'll do this

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we'll just be trending feed

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yeah you don't even know client

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with a yeah please don't i was waiting for him to say sounds like an opportunity for a client that's just trending feed

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yeah i need a kiwi news just for farcaster i mean we're we're doing our best here naomi we're we're trying

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we're trying so that was one one thing that i wanna make sure it doesn't happen a few more things really quick before we wrap we have a new spam model rolling out this week our new model is reevaluating all your old reports and you may get notifications if we take action on them now that was from b so i did notice i did get a few we've taken action reports so look for that this was from yes to crypto questions from romances.eth and others made me realize i should have cast it here in someone build this is a business idea not a set of suggestions to merkel or warpcast here's an idea set up onboarding mechanism to workcast take credit cards crypto paypal whatever charge $25 set up workcast account pay for 1 month of supercast and buy degen with the rest put half the degen into their connected wallet once they set one up provide onboarding videos group chat for general group chat for sorry i lost my general support and regular live chats for members only publish recordings for all to see a week later on all socials have progressive tutorials about everything forecaster channel backing up keys staying safe super follow how to engage without farming add your ideas below adrienne so what'd you think of this idea would you like to tell the folks a little alpha

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you can go ahead

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okay so the second half of this starting with provide onboarding videos is coming soon really soon we've been working on this with snickerdoodle as an educational series and it will be coming out very soon we've had to make some adjustments we may have to rerecord something again hopefully not because of the ui changes but i don't think we will so we we're putting together a full farcaster 101 that people will be able to step through to get them set up on farcaster and get them going so the first part of this we're not doing but it's a good it's an interesting idea the second half we will be doing so coming soon so when i saw this i was like oh

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imagine the poor people who just recorded an onboarding video with screen sharing and imagine using the old freaking ui

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yeah imagine to be imagine those poor people imagine them they are they are us so super fun we did wait to do the channels one because we knew we couldn't do it until this happened because everything was gonna change a few other things this from the magic eden intern our guest the other day not gonna lie emmy intern rising on the intern vibe leaderboard so this is a big win for me on base and they also got a shout out from jc dwr kindly award this account who is so worthy with a boost so i loved that getting some shout outs and it went on to say thanks to nodesh crawford brilliant fun show i wouldn't have known about uli posting but for your combo with this amazing mood board maker who is slaying on orbcast and i believe that she did do that correctly so fantastic in the olli in the olli posting a few other things this from jasic g m d gens we just added a 100 k d gen to the p o i d p o i d h halloween bounty so that's pixar didn't happen dress up any theme and hold a sign saying happy d gen halloween for a chance to win all legit entries get a commemorative nft can't wait to see your costumes so that's really fun so go check that out lots of fun things happening this is a great cast we don't really have time to get into it but i might just drop it in to you for monday because it was really interesting talking about product versus distribution with vee and garrett so i will drop that in our show notes and you can dive in a little bit more there

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shout out links do your homework and read that cast so we can talk about it on monday

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there you go i will drop it in for mondays and this is also about this was really interesting comms onboarding is really well done this is from vee you sign in once with farcaster and start the app immediately with a network of friends you can talk to mark vince sign in with farcaster is going to be a really powerful building block for anyone doing consumer things in crypto and this was from ashoette ashhote.eth introducing com a new kind of messaging app we extend signal style encryption with a federation layer calm supports 2 kinds of chats signal style to e2ee group chats and dms chat communities hosted on federated key servers like a modern irc where discord is chaotic and messy comm communities are organized so pretty cool check that out i love that it has a sign in with farcaster and looking forward to taking a look at this for a more powerful chat option with your farcaster friends i want to sign in with gm farcaster that would be lovely it'll just be our gm people one other thing too there was a new mascot dropped for moxie his name is maxie maxie from moxie is now an open source logo say no more cc beta shop and c corella cast inspired me to make this so there you go i just thought that was funny i like how it changes the face at the end so and magic eden also getting on getting on the the our favorite intern maxie and emmy are new friends thought that was cute and lastly dracula is launching their new app it's october let's kick start base season together reintroducing dracula watch videos get the alpha trade base tokens live today on the app store download at apple for a while it has been a test flight so this is the official thing so go check that out congratulations alex and team and very cool to see so that is it did i miss anything adrian

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before we call it i think we covered everything and i

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think we did yeah it was a lot newsy a lot of things happening very newsy lots of happening and going on we will be i'm sure that you will be not me be chatting a lot about channels on monday as well and kinda going through what has happened i will not be here monday as we mentioned at the top adrianne will have a guest cohost lynx who will be taking my spot and then on wednesday it will be kristen and cameron at an hour later than our normal time to allow kristen to not have to get up at like 5:30 in the morning so and then friday i'll be back

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it's gonna be still a little early for her so a little early

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and it'll be on at 11:30 am next friday so that to accommodate me not having to get up at 5:30 so there we go it's not the getting up it's the getting up and you know being awake and pleasant is the part is the problem the awake thing is easy and that is it tory we're glad you're back i think it's because we have switched to using primarily youtube and twitter we are no longer on unloney because they are moving to solana and i think that's where you were finding us so if you're not getting notifications follow our channel on events.xyz and you will get all notifications anytime we drop an event in the channel that's gonna be the best that's right

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right because there was an unlonely bot that was reminding people but now there's great yeah we loved it we love unlonely bot but we're not on unlonely anymore so event bot there's an events frame if you subscribe there you'll get

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yes so look for that and we'll be dropping the we'll drop the frame for the episodes the night before the day before and then you can also just subscribe to the channel on events dot xyz to get any time that we put an event in our channel you will get a notification let's assume that's gonna continue to work properly we are lonely again but we're not but we're not naomi we're here

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and yes when you subscribe to the event you actually you need to either follow the events account yeah so so that they can dm you or check your requests folder which is kind of hidden for people and then reply to it and it'll it'll show up so

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great great tip there segwider yeah good good point and yeah and if anyone's gonna be in la come find me come see me come hang with me it'll be fun and yeah so we'll see you next week happy friday happy holidays to those who are celebrating and yeah and that's it so with that you're gonna take us out uh-oh all you have to do for this part is to end screen i've already set up the outro you're good

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alright well someone is gonna do you see a g h not to set up an outro

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it's all set up for this one all you have to do is hit end stream

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alright everyone happy friday bye bye

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bye bye