Transcript: GM Farcaster ep169 Wednesday October 16, 2024 with guest @macbudkowski /kiwi-news

NounishProf, Adrienne, macbudkowski · GM Farcaster

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gmfarcaster i just realized i didn't have my mic ready i was like woah she's so happy

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it is wednesday october 16th and you are here with nana shropp and adrienne for 29 minutes of

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our guest renews to start your day and we'll have a guest in just a little while mac podowski from kiwi news to chat about all things kiwi

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and adrienne in case you don't know why adrienne's so happy it's because she's not clicking buttons today and she's so happy right now

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it's hilarious

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it's wednesday

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it's wednesday and my news and she's a happy camper let me tell you by the way this

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is the first thing i pulled by

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the way this is from me on our friend me on base the magic in eden intern watching adrian drive the bus on gianfarcastr lately has added a new element of fun see excellent work and totally capable not a proper way to successfully hand over the reins and not be a cfa control freak adult happy to always turn the reins over but adrienne is really happy to give them back

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yes

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so done she's so done and the sad thing is this morning i had to go my power has been cycling on and off so just in case be ready because there's a chance that i might disappear from the screen and this from rabinowitz i had to just start add this towards the top my partner does not cast yet but does watch gm farcaster so i tipped him to give to his to his partner who does not cast yet i don't know who

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it is right

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but that is really funny i thought that yeah

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i know we don't yeah i know we don't do gender but her

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her yeah i assume her but i don't know you know what i thought it was i think he said her somewhere else

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no rabinovitz

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yeah oh oh oh oh i did not know that sorry yeah but

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but but to be fair that is the like one of the things i love most about these online spaces is i really love knowing people without knowing

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the the

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things you see when you meet someone face to face like the immediate things i like learning them later but

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so funny anyway that's that's amazing glad they are watching and hopefully are entertaining even if you have no idea what we're talking about so fantastic and moving on to some actual news news maybe maybe maybe coming hopefully maybe i don't know oh boy it doesn't look like you're logged out here we go oh that was the problem i am not logged out damn it

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you took a week off

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i logged in i made the mistake i made a mistake

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i'm out of practice when we log in it gets it gets difficult oh my god my pronouns are i love it okay this from dwr looking for people who are frustrated with the changes in new direction for channels last week we got a lot of good feedback from people happy with excited about the changes see below now i want to highlight what's still not working for people specifically what's frustrating what would make it better so if you are still frustrated with anything regarding channels jump into this thread and add your feedback for dwr he would love to know i personally am doing doing okay i'm doing okay with the new channels i still think we need some broader topics and we'll talk about that in a second in case you missed it there are now 9,000 plus farcaster accounts with a verified x slash twitter account available via api we'll eventually get this data into the protocol too so that was from dan as well and very cool to see i think it's a nice feature it gives you a way to find those folks on twitter as well and also to verify if somebody is trying to pretend to be somebody they're not so i appreciate that and i wonder if i should log out now but i just feel like it would mess everything up so let's not do that we'll just set we'll just settle into the loading screen here this is from bee speaking of twitter ironically we're shutting down the x posting experiment for a few months we've been testing a feature with a few users to cross post their tweets from x to farcaster we're shutting it down because we can't get it to work reliably with the current apis and when it fails it's really frustrating for users and then continuing on difference in content types make this really hard to work 100% it's also not achieving the goal of increasing conversations people who ex post don't use the app any more frequently people who see x posts are less likely to engage because the content isn't authentic to fc our view at least for now is that x posting will not work to scale farcaster while it might work for social media types type apps that are primarily about content consumption farcaster is about conversations and an ex post without a presence on the app isn't that meaningful to other users agree

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there's been a few things that have popped up that i probably wouldn't have seen otherwise and yes the a the twitter api might be flaky i know it's shocking they fired all of them remember

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all the people in charge

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of the twitter apis they were fired like day 2 of elon being there so yeah i think it was it surfaced a few things but it really didn't add to the conversation because you would reply to things and then that person would never reply back so it didn't like create a conversation at all yeah it was 100% frustrating just yeah absolutely frustrating to respond to someone who wasn't there they really aren't there so i think it was worth the experiment because it would have been great if these folks then started to interact on farcaster because they were getting replies but that did not come to be so yeah any other thoughts on that adrienne

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i think just a lot of people also got upset that the way you tweet or post on x is different than the way you cast so it's like taking the same thing but not changing it for the medium you're expressing yourself on frustrated people as well so i think it was like the combination of you can't engage because they're not actually really on forecaster combined with it felt it just like felt a little bizarro world like why are you writing that here on forecaster that doesn't fit

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i feel like that's i'm not yeah

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i guess i'm not writing in here on

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forecaster yeah

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because vibes matter

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it's vibes matter yeah vibes for sure

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so i didn't mind the extra content in my feed because i think like dan i i hit the bottom multiple times a day like i just

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it's around yeah

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so i like i i liked it but i do like to see i'd say merkel's transparency in terms of here are the experiments we're running and following up to say this is what we learned and we're either gonna continue or or shut down so i like closure is good let's move

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on yep i agree i agree and then this from dan as well looking for feedback on this iteration for channels this is this is very interesting the single biggest remaining complaint is people feeling like the pre existing large topic based channels like food or founders should be more accessible it will also reduce work for channel mods who don't want to have to approve every single person who wants to cast in their channel but are okay giving up some control of who and they can always invite someone to be a member to guarantee it curious would you turn this on or off for your channel any concerns so this is public mode so meaning there wouldn't be members on some in these if you turn on public mode it would be everybody could be a member of that channel and this was sort of what i was arguing for last week in saying that i think that some of these larger channels can coexist with the more member like channels i think we can have both i don't think we need to have just one or the other so if we can make it work technically and apparently maybe we can i will like

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yeah i mean this is conceding that people want hashtags maybe they should just give us hashtags like maybe i don't know just a little bit of hashtag work but i guess this allows these broad topics there's still a little bit of moderation you're probably gonna need some level of auto moderation as the network gets big for the obvious not safe for work and and other kind of scammy malicious content not just you know because i think that's the i think that is the outcome that dan assumes everything goes to which is you think you want to moderate a large community and channel but you don't actually know the work that goes into it

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right right

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and and we saw this with some of the larger channels but when forecaster is not so active it's like oh you'd say you know everyone's posting good stuff in food everyone's posting good stuff until they're not so i don't know

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i think that was if you were a channel owner when until they made this recent shift like for our gm forecaster channel we had main and we had recent if i don't think because i had moderation turned on anyone else could see recent except for me and you and and that i think that was it and recent was a dumpster fire so you would go in and like the ones so i had to work from there and like the ones that should be in maine but most of them were just total spam and people just not even realizing what the channel was or not caring one or the other so i can see the the concern but also i'd love to you know let's see what happens like maybe we maybe there's a way to filter out enough that it can exist so

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anne's had a very opinionated take on hashtags yes since the beginning and i think it comes from his and and he kinda just says look hashtags don't work like they don't work and his i think his experience on farcaster as someone with i'm sorry not farcaster twitter or other networks right someone with a larger following and someone who's in kind of these bigger silicon valley i think topics and maybe crypto twitter i think he sees the dumpster fire and it's like they they don't work i've talked about my experience on twitter i was in like a very niche twitter community that we used hashtags for and they were super popular or or super valuable because they were small like no one's trying to bust in the little hashtags but it was a permissionless way for people to quickly self organize by using a hashtag permissionlessly i i liked it for like oh we're at a tech conference everybody use this hashtag and like no one's trying to to get in

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right so the problem is with people sort of taking over the hashtag right and trying to you know spam their advertising content with that hashtag because it's trending so that's that becomes the yeah that becomes the problem okay moving on big news yesterday dgen is now listed on coinbase so hey d gens just 15 minutes to go until dgen it's coinbase my wife made some dgen cookies to celebrate let's get it and i just thought that was so cute look at this adorable and i love the hats there so the hat stays on there you go and this from murtaza congratulations to all holders of and the makers of explaining to my wife tonight that we can soon retire based on war cast tips i have received and no longer need a 401 k denominated in useless fiat not financial advice

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i need murtaza back on the show because i can't always tell how much he's talking tongue in cheek versus like

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this one feels a little tongue in cheek yeah i think this one's obvious it's

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i think this one's obvious adrian

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i don't think it's obvious

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i don't think that he's i don't think he meant that okay alright maybe he's serious i don't know but i don't think so i don't think so this from jesse our and our sponsor's base a new base.org to bring the world on chain they got a little glow up on the on the website there and i think there's also an nft that goes with this which i forgot to mint so i need to go do that but very cute very cool loving it very

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nice minted it

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do you minted it did you mint it

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minted it yeah

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oh my god and i forgot like i saw it for a second and i wasn't somewhere where i could mint it so it was like oh damn

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it was a it was a little easter egg and i think someone gave a hint they said do the right thing even when it's hard and it was a right click on the base org when you click on the logo there's a little option to mint an nft

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oh nice i saw it somewhere else i think i just saw it in my feed i think i saw it on interface or something honestly interface is the best thing ever but did you meant for 3 this is true did you meant 3

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of course not okay baby steps people

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of course she didn't that's me i do that she doesn't do that this from jesse also rolling out search improvements on coinbase wallet it should help people find tokens faster and make sure that they are interacting with the right ones always a problem so very cool to see jesse's diving into his new job already

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this from this person adrianne this was interesting if it loads is it possible a $5 reward does more harm than good 100 people getting it every day which means thousands of dau daily active users are not getting it the 100 people might feel good and maybe it gets them to cast more but is it at a cost of 1,000 of not good enough or casting less i don't know the answer and it's just an experiment and this was in response to yes to crypto i promised myself i won't get bitter about others winning this reward because as adrian says your personal worth is blah blah blah not what every single other person's receiving and talking about today and every single other person i mean everyone who is not you specifically so he was feeling not not great and we don't like it when when he doesn't feel great but i love to this animation it just made made my world i just love this bravo it's just all you it's fantastic

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can i can i clarify something

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sure

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i didn't say that yes dakota it's not every other person it's like 2 it may be a 100 people of which like 3 are casting because they're excited they got the reward

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i know

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but there

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are many thousands of people who did not

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there are thousands and thousands

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and we love you and

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and we love you

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you and we appreciate that our day so much better and you that is so much you know

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by the way yeah if you're not following esther crypto i don't know what you're doing with your lives so like please yeah hilarious cast really good things sometimes very very interesting and other times just hilarious like that like that also a good reply guy and adrian there this is from adrian as well there are no rewards for running hubs not today not ever warps do not fluctuate in value channels are not canonical topics well maybe they are we'll see channels haven't been decentralized yet dcs are not encrypted f 2 fids can communicate even if they get hidden at the client app level if you use ens as your display name no one can take it away from you farcaster names and channel names can be taken away from you your future speech is something worth fighting for and put another way adrienne's background from horseback which i believe is now available in homegoods i'm not sure this was i mean hilarious in this house we believe there are no rewards for running hubs not today not ever warps do not fluctuate in value channels are not canonical topics channels haven't been decentralized yet dcs are not encrypted and this was hilarious absolutely hilarious it was almost my background as well and then i figured it would be yours so i didn't need to do that

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horse facts casting game meme game is 10 out of 10 we agree

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1 like again like if you're not if you're not following horse facts i don't know what you're doing he might be the funniest person on farcaster and you don't even realize it so and there you go there you go just wants to send another banger to my home feed i'm not in that channel i guess i can't post anything my favorite community is all my followers i am both owner and mod of my own destiny my thoughts are too profound and radical to be categorized so there you go and if you ask nicely he'll probably let you in yoink so there you go but really funniest he's just so funny he is just so funny you never expect the devs to be funny but this one is so there you go and this from dilstack i really hate the fact that i didn't log out now i'm afraid to what are the coolest launches of projects you've seen on farcaster in the past few weeks could be top combos casts too and this is a great thread and he said i'll get this started here are some top projects updates i've seen in the past week channel kit from zach terrell kira from open rank modbot from hay hayole continued open source smartwall at work from stevenville tomorrow news from 0xsmallbrain degenlisting on coinbase fc trivia from matthew fox fc marketplace from atcd scout game from cruella and team see cruella and team all really great we've had some amazing things happening and i wanted to make a note on trivia tonight no sorry tomorrow night thursday at 12 pm pst i think i think it's pst for 25,000,000 base token with base dev 0 and garrett so another trivia game happening and there was one on monday was it that we played i think it was monday and that one the host didn't show up but that's okay we had

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a ghost we had a ghost host

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we had a ghost host and it worked just fine so all good but if you're not like really go go check out trivia it's really fun i've been enjoying it so really well done it's slick it's a great mini app so well done matthew fox and if you have anything to add on dylan's thread go add it there because it is pretty interesting but speaking of launches pfista with a new bui discord integration we just launched a discord integration for bui for max subscribers get a unified feed of all your bui notifications in a channel on your discord server we need to go do this by the way that would be phenomenal and super helpful so it has some information on how to do it how to get set up in this thread so there you go here are the instructions so get that we need to get that set up very cool and this from euler lang i hope i'm saying that right because every time i look at it i i wanna say other words i don't know i just can't pronounce his name but i think it's euler euler lagrange did i say lang i totally i'm gonna mess up his name every time in opacity we just launched our dev platform and announced our fundraise the culmination of years of obsession hard work and a lot of shitposting up to our caster the die has been cast only the beginning of a long journey fixing the internet so very exciting opacity has raised $12,000,000 led by arctype vc and briarcap with support from a12z csx finality cap bodie ventures north island vc e3 vc ventures ambush capital and g d one vc so congratulations to all our friends at opacity looking at you duaofy thank you euler lagrange by the way every time i even say or hear that name immediately i now am hearing the grange the range on my in my head so anyway if you don't know what that song is i can't i can't even

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i will i will forever pronounce it euler

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euler

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euler like first euler euler and i don't care if i'm wrong and euler lagrange was a mathematician

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or physicist and it was

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farcaster euler lagrange's fave like had his favorite

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proof okay

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or something

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so okay

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if you wanna know what type of nerd you're hanging out with

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i had no idea of that backstory whatsoever nerds i had no idea that there was a whole backstory to the name ferris euler i like it better somebody somebody do that this from jamie one thing i respect about bounticaster daylight dgen friends barcaster and a handful of other crypto native teams building right now is that the entire founding team not just the ceo have deep conviction in crypto i do agree that is pretty amazing and this is in response to can't stop thinking about how bullish i am on the friends team so that was pretty cool to see speaking of some other types of launches and founders we love this is from grace i i really am really still hating myself for not logging out it's been a season of major personal and professional change for me but one thing is constant i am so energized by what we've been working on creating for viewers on unlonely and today is finally the grand reveal of our very first interactive horror show it's part fear factor part escape room part hunger games and part something we've never seen before making the jump from our virtual love on leverage productions to irl venue scouting and talent contracting has been a huge learning curve but i genuinely can't wait for you all to watch jump in the chat and maybe even send a care package or scare package to the contestants still out here innovating learning see what sticks time to spread the fud okay interesting so this is i think all planned for halloween so go take a look and jump in there so that'll be interesting to see and this is from ted this was in regards to the praxis news following the 525,000,000 praxis announcement and our own journey to helping build irl url communities and meaningful experiences that leverage our digital future forecaster crypto blockchain etcetera i feel there is no better time to share our next phase of making this future a reality my pre seed of exactly $0

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so there was a lot of feelings about the praxis announcement which is financing for new city 525,000,000 a lot of thoughts on this by the way ted you're no longer at 0 i did tip you a bunch of yesterday so there you go to put towards your fund

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to probably enough probably enough for a new city

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sure sure why not so there you go there's your pre seed of 5555

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and a lot of folks had some thoughts on this if you zoomed in you might have noticed something in the seed round praxis raises 525,000,000 dwr you participated great opportunity to add some color from your perspective in this channel so he did share 525 in financing equals 525,000,000 in equity financing i invested to be supportive not actively involved with any of my angel investments so that's interesting as well there was also somebody that i knew from nouns who was listed on there as well as one of the seed investors and some of us said if he's the mayor of new city we will not be moving if you know you know and this was nate's response what

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so we you know stay tuned more to come from new city this from erics come on come on baby you can do it you can load there we go isn't authentic to fc so this was i meant to put this when we talked about the different content types we were talking about the cross posting to twitter and there was a mention of one of the things that people pushed back on was that it wasn't authentic to fc it's a different level of energy here built on optimism literally and shared ethos it's a different culture here where real combo plus long term mindset win farcaster may be late to the first wave of social but reality is it refers to on chain social and the shift to ownership just started and i couldn't agree more couple more things before we bring up our fantastic guest mac this from rainbow and mike rainbow wallet connect register for the wallet connect airdrop and get 500 bonus points for every wallet you connected with rainbow 3 days left to register every single rainbow wallet you connected to dapps using wallet connect can get wct tokens and bonus points you don't register by october 18th at 1 pm utc you won't get anything we'll post a video tutorial later today with full instructions on how to maximize your airdrops so keep your eyes out for it for some reason if you scroll down as we go through you will actually see a video of mike rainbow saying yes this is real showing his phone showing a little hostage video if you will proof of life proof of life from mike rainbow because it was a very different air airdrop experience and like registration experience i bagged out like i was like you know what i haven't used all connect that often most of the time i use it with my safe and it made me very nervous and i there was something about it that was concerning and a lot of other people were feeling it too and so this is the reason for mike's video to say yes this is real it's legit it's okay folks you can go register so d y o r did you register after i still didn't i think i'm not gonna be eligible for a lot and i think i'm gonna leave it i'm really nervous about connect the the place where i would get some of that would come from the safe and i just don't feel comfortable connecting

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do it

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i'm not gonna do it so but

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when i

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i think it's legit everything's fine don't don't let my over anxiousness concern you so there you go did you do your wallet

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crap you're a big influencer so if you say you're concerned i think people are gonna

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i'm probably overly concerned it's probably i totally trust mike though so i there's no real reason it's not it's more like the site just didn't feel right to me but i i have no issues like i'm sure the walletconnect team is legit they're a fantastic company they have a great product so i'm sure it's all all good it's just me being a little wiggy it's more of the safe thing i'm wiggy about my safes i think that's why so that's a little different

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i think that sounds maybe smart like a good practice safe they announced this airdrop about a month ago it closes in 2 days i'm only just hearing about it now because of farfetch came from the rainbow account dan recasted it i will say when i watched the video of mike rainbow telling people that it's say that it's legit i immediately was like oh i don't know now i'm counting i know it's supposed to make me feel better but that made me feel worse i did connect my wallet because i use rainbow was the first wallet i used i use other ones though i actually use i like i have multiple wallets first like the same addresses i go back and forth because some don't work all the time but rainbow was the first one i used it's probably my primary still i switched between that and coinbase these days going through the whole registration i did click on like the terms of service and warnings because i love to you're agreeing to those terms of service whatever that means and i loved reading them because they're funny because people don't read them but to your point of like you can trust mike that but it doesn't necessarily mean that the code that you're running is going to be guaranteed to be safe and right so in general adrian's face lol be skeptical of literally everything you can add your wallet to

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i think that's a fair fair thing to say i'm gonna say one more thing and we're gonna bring mike up mac up mike mike mac up this is me yesterday why do i wait until the last possible minute to file my taxes it's truly a mystery that baffles even me but they are done and the reason and i did you know throw a little pudgy penguin in there but what was funny was all the people who came out to say same same girl same me as well so just a little shout out you are my people if you waited until yesterday after getting a 6 month extension to file your taxes so thank you that is all and going to bring up to the stage mac budowski who i spelled your name wrong multiple times when i was doing things and i'm like why am i having such an issue with this i kept leaving the k out i redid you you guys missed it because i redid it before you saw it but the cover image everything i'm like that's wrong i have to go back and redo it so here we go it's kiwi time welcome to gm forecaster how are you good morning

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yeah it's it's great to be here and it was very fun to listen to your recap and some of these cast i i definitely missed so thanks for that yeah and regarding my name the easiest way is you know the writer charles bukowski

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no

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so she's like a famous writer i'm like budokovsky so you have to add one letter to his name but yeah

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okay budikovsky okay i'm gonna get it right one of these days well mac for those who may not know you return of the mac love it for those who may not know you tell us a little bit about what is kiwi kiwi news let's start there before we jump into the big announcement but what is kiwi news for those who may not know and a little bit you know maybe about the lore of the name too let's share a little bit of that for our newbies yeah

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okay yeah so so kiwi is like a link aggregator so kind of like on reddit or hacker news you can share any links they can be forecaster links twitter links youtube links github links whatever links you you can share them and they are focused on crypto primarily on people who build in crypto so these are dune dashboards essays github repos podcasts and so on and the final thing is that we started building kiwi we are one of these like og forecaster projects you know back when launchcasters started paragraph you know kiwi this was like this whole cohort of people that were like forecaster line and we are like very i would say our roots are very strongly like very deep in farcaster in a way because me and tim we met in farcaster comment section so we haven't seen each other for like half a year we worked on the project full time for half a year before we actually met each other in real life so farcaster connecting people so that was that's the story but the story of the time is even i would say fire because it started with a meme on farcaster where i think kenny posted a a picture of a kiwi that's eaten like a fruit that's with a skin on and then tim was like hey vitalik bump this guy from ethereum and vitalik responded like for what eating kiwi with a skin on i sometimes do it with oranges and you know that like the whole meme started and a lot of people were posting different ideas how you should eat kiwi some people with a skin on some people chris carrela posted the way like some drink with a kiwi and there were like different different ideas and back then you know team created a meme called hyper qification because balaji had this hyper bitcoin mification meme where bitcoin was supposed to get to 1,000,000 it did not as we all

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know yes so

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yeah yes

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so yeah this is this is a kiwi story in like 2 minutes and yeah we still have like a lot of farcaster people involved on on on kiwi and a lot of people also from twitter so like some people from twitter learned about farcaster through kiwi we even had this partnership like last year i think it was before we went permissionless when where kiwi users could could get a free farcaster account and so on so yeah this is it i will also send a link to this how to eat qb website where you can learn about the meme

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i love it i love it and then the other you know that's one of our lightning round questions that we ask our guests when we do interviews and we do lightning rounds and we say kiwi skin on or off so i have to ask

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you thank you

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do you eat your kiwi skin on or off

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i'm definitely a spooner so i cut it in half and just eat it with a spoon i did a few times with skin on just to because i would

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i would just to test it

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yeah i wouldn't be permitted to run the company without doing that

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but it was required

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yeah but it it it isn't my taste i gotta say

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yeah i don't think it's many people's taste i i really don't so let's talk about into the nouniverse this is a new writing contest that has been funded by nouns so can you talk a little bit about how this came about and what people should know if they wanna participate

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sure sure so yeah this is you know you know we wanted to do something with nouns for a long long time but we never actually had a good idea but as you know nownish like you we even had an nft with nogles like long long time ago so

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that's how you got me to mint like i minted a bunch of them i it's like i see nogles i minted it's i minted 3 i'm pretty sure i minted 3 yep yep still got them still got it in my wallet yep so i love that one it was so cute

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yeah so you know this is how we started and in the last few months we've been doing this writing contest to grow our app so we are thinking well we want people who write in crypto and we were thinking well how could we get these people so we found a way to organize writing contests and we did a few and i read this cast by noun 40 where she was saying well people are doing this cheap dance of nouns you know people don't really appreciate the fact that they did so much and by being the sand still with this you know challenge of being decentralized that they like cofounded dagora and zach xbt and protocol guild and so on and so forth so i think chris carella sent it to us and we were like oh okay that's interesting and we came up with the idea to prepare the the prop and and and chris helped us to better understand nouns nature because it's like yeah like you kind of have to spend some time to get it because it's so counterintuitive you know i like like even crypto is counterintuitive for most people right like having something decentralized but now it's just like this but crypto squared in a way like it's very very like different but yeah we made the problem and it went through and now the idea is to get people to write about nouns in different ways you know we have a few prompts there's a prompt about you know what does it mean to be noun ish and what nouns can teach us about brand building what were the most important props how the governance reshape the way we think about governance in general yeah how could nouns capture more value because they you know produce a lot of value but the only way to capture valuable in nouns is just to get mints maybe there are some other ways and we even got one prompt from seneca who's the nounder and he asked can nouns be a face of crypto so you know what would what would it mean if nounce was like a household name and oh yeah we got the prompts and i i i think this is a particularly interesting one because i think in this cycle in last cycle bird apes were kind of a face of crypto which very accurately reflected the nature of the last cycle which was like very

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you think you know

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it was like they're like you know get rich have stand have fun staying poor and so on and not my vibes actually but in this you have like project penguins like getting a lot of attention and it would be really cool if nao has got a lot of attention too because people could learn a lot about the crypto values thanks to that so this is the writing contest anyone can write you know you can write on paragraph you can write on forecast you can write even on zuora as an nft if you if you prefer and just share a link on kiwi

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screenshot essays come making a comeback there you go

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that would be fine

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yes

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i love this yeah so you have all you you choose a prompt and it's up to you to take it from there and then add a line about your post taking part in the contest share your post on the platform of your choice submit your post to kiwi this is important you need to have a kiwi pass to do that and you can get a free kiwi pass or i got a couple i could share so if you need one i might give one away to a gm forecaster folk

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oh that would be cool

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reach out yeah if you if you wanna write something and you need a kiwi pass reach out to me i might sponsor you for that and the deadline is october you you're writing between october 14th which was a couple days ago so it's open now through the 4th november and there are 4 prizes in 2 tracks so you have 2 different tracks one is vox populi and its winners will be determined by the number of upvotes received on kiwi and then the second tract is vox judicious i love the little we're throwing some latin into this and its winners will be determined by the jury from nouns and the kiwi teams and the prizes are are pretty good here your first place prize is 0.875 eth so 2nd place 0.43 3rd 0.26 and 4th 0.17 in each of these categories so pretty significant

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and i really want to encourage those who are who like to write but maybe don't know anything about nouns to to do this because i think that is actually the more interesting writing you can you know i can write something but i already know stuff so i'm not gonna be as useful it's not gonna be as interesting i think as somebody looking from the outside in than the inside out so would love to see all you riders out there diving into this winsome eth and yeah take a look and you if you need some assistance here reach out to me i'm happy to help with this particular thing so what did i leave out mac what did i miss from the the details there

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i think you you know you captured it perfectly one thing i would stress that you already mentioned is that if you don't know anything about nouns it's a great moment to just dig in i mean you know there is so much content about nouns there's been this list by chris carla i i think i i i should have a look and and find it because he actually combined this list of you know nouns 1 on 1 like all the best essays videos and and so on so i will look for it especially for the ones that might not be familiar and you know the like the bigger goal is to just like all nouns activities to kind of like proliferate the nouns approach and and the meme and the brand so the more people learn about nouns the more people dig in the better for everyone

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i agree and the places that you can take a look and i'm gonna post this in the chat nouns dot w t f for some basic information as well as the proposals so if you wanna go through and find something that's interesting to you and dig in that could be a fun thing to do or nouns.world which has a little bit more information nouns.center is another one but that one's a little more out of date nouns dot world is newer but both of these sites will be helpful starting points for the slash nouns channel as well so yeah i'm excited to see what comes from this it should be interesting i really i'm really looking forward to seeing like i said fighter you know people from outside of the noun universe kinda looking in i think that is gonna be the most interesting part of it so yeah adrianne i think you should do some writing what do you think

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i like to write

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maybe i like to write i like to win it

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i like to write i'll have to think about it

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yeah see if anything tickles your fancy yeah and you could prompts you know the project's fun

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yeah and you could acknowledge expert that you can call anytime so

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she has my number she has me on speed dial

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i do love the prompts here so i just wanna go through the prompts real quick is being nounish a state of mind a cultural signal or maybe a way to look at the world what are the philosophies

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identity second one is what can nouns teach us about turning brand building upside down and making it open source and steered by the community for those who don't know nouns is cc0 so anyone can use the art in their own brands third one is from headline making proposals to under the radar decisions which moments have shaped the noun's history most profoundly and why 4th one is how has noun's approach to governance shape the way you think about decentralized communities and what aspects have been most surprising or eye opening this would be great for somebody who's really into governance or in other daos that could be a really interesting perspective and what are the untapped avenues for nouns to capture more value from their activities beyond nft mints and then the special prompt from seneca can nouns be the face of crypto what would it mean for the industry at large if nouns would become a household name and seneca for those who may not realize is the creator of prophouse and rounds so if you've been using participating in rounds on on farcaster on warpcast then you have nouns and seneca to thank for that so all these little things or if you use governance in optimism you may not realize that that was built by agora which is yatong who also was originally funded by nouns so nouns agora was the first iteration and then he took that and expanded it for optimism's use and a few other communities i think ens also so there's some other governance communities and things like that so there's little like things that you may not realize also higher you may not realize is came from nouns so there you go and some nouns

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and purple right like purple is a noun purple

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yeah purple's a noun ish dao built on nouns builder which was funded by nouns so all these little thing we're kinda we're kinda everywhere we're kinda hiding everywhere everywhere in plain sight so there you go and i'd love to see like people yeah purple would be a great another great idea around that for discussion in in essay it definitely would fit into one of those prompts i'm sure so yeah lots of lots of cool stuff to talk about so alright anything else that you wanted to share about kiwi or this writing contest or anything else that you might have coming up before we before we wrap

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yeah we we have a few things one i would say that if you want to check kiwi go to qiwi news dot xyz and we used to have a paywall so you had to own a kiwi pass to check links but you don't need to have it anymore at least for now and there's also add kiwi bot on farcaster that just shares the most relevant and and fresh kiwi links so if you want to have more links in your feed this is the bot that you might share and regarding the context the the one thing i would say is that we are very open to different forms so you know you don't need to write an essay you can write a poem or like manifesto or like a futuristic font experiment that's you know you can write whatever you want we just want fresh ideas and the form is totally up to you choose whatever you think will work best

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okay well

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song lyrics we have some songwriters in the

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audience songwriters

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we have poets in the audience

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i know

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it's what i

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was thinking when you said poetry i was like oh arjan arjan there you go

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yeah play yeah like naomi says play would be actually very interesting

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and middle english

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we we may or may not have a musical afoot at the moment there's a noun's musical being developed hasn't been funded yet but it's in the works so we do weird things so that's the other thing is if you do something really creative and we love it you never know you might get some additional funding yeah it has been known to happen so there you go yeah zines yeah zines would be cool a zine would be cool very cool we would love that

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yeah so you know just remember that this contest is organized by now who are very open minded i would say so

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yeah just have it in mind that even you have very weird ideas they might actually be the right ideas that would be loved by many people because they would be very fresh

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yeah definitely awesome this has been great i don't know what happened to adrianne we lost her that's how she is right she's got how

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much she's gone

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what do you mean

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what i missed

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not much but i was like where did

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did i win i just wrote an essay i lied i just have to wait for my computer to write an essay

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by the way nice super bass hat i'm wearing my yellow collective yawn shirt my there's yawn that's look over here there he is oops right there from last week so we are we are rocking some nounish adjacent things so there we go that's where she went

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that's where

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that's where she went

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because we had this whole we had this whole conversation without anyone talking about angles in it without any goggles

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i wish i had goggles with me because then we could make this you know

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yeah next time i see you next time i see you mac just ask i usually have some on me okay that are ready to give away especially the purple ones i have lots of them and with that everybody we're gonna call it there it's been a fantastic chat i'm excited to see what gets produced from this writing competition thank you for being here with us and anything else adrienne before we sign off have you enjoyed your day without having to click buttons

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bye