Transcript: GM Farcaster ep176 Friday November 1, 2024

NounishProf, Adrienne · GM Farcaster

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gm farcaster it is friday happy friday november 1st november november 1st it's no it's november it's november and you are here with nanosrop and adrian for 29 minutes of forecast news to start your day and we're gonna try and keep it to 29 we'll see how it goes and behind you is my little ai pumpkin jamfarcaster jack o'lantern looks adorable this was ai oh no i i actually just spent about 20 hours no i carved it myself and then yeah no don't give

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away your secrets

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give away all my secrets now and behind me is builder dow's birthday so if you have ever received some purple noggles like you see behind me you have builderdao to thank so and this is my vinny hager 1 of 1 builderdao hat that i'm wearing today so happy birthday happy birthday builder yeah so purple was the first dao that was on noun's builder but builderdao is the dao that manages that so there you go and then behind you like i said was some really fun pumpkins that i was working on yesterday but this one was my favorite and this is yes to crypto's purple cat pumpkin and i thought it came out

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i absolutely loved it so good

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so good the ones i made for you and i not as much like they just weren't as good they're fine but they really weren't that good and the bad ones were really bad and then this was the gm forecaster 1 which was kind of cute that was one that yes crypto did these were some of the bad ones that i threw away of yours those are

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not good they're cute they're not you lucky little fox

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yeah you just have no it just relates to nothing yeah like nothing but this was my favorite thing from halloween yesterday this was crazy so not gonna play this sound but you don't really need it i was not following this person i am now oh so yeah oh i am now and if you you might want to as well because i this didn't even occur to me like to dress up as dan for halloween it's not on my bingo card and it's fantastic

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you want to describe what we're looking at

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oh yeah so if you're not watching good point if you're not watching we have somebody doing some makeup some halloween makeup and they are dressing up as dan full on pirate and the caption over this is my husband won't talk to me banned for wendy's craziest halloween costume and then this was from tldr i want to be no scratch that i need to be at the party where you explain to people what the dan costume is and this was when she was on her way out happy halloween fools this is this one goes out to everyone who's ever believed in me especially my followers bots included and this is swampnet and yeah so this was her this was her halloween costume she was dan and it was absolutely hilarious so well done if you're not following swamp net you really need to be alright so we also had some fun art dropping from yellow it's yelloween and that means it's time to burst open some packs on party and collect some yellow treats fourteen incredible spooky pieces of art from 14 amazing yellow collective artists including jan furlough sloppy and more organized by brett draws stuff mint packs on base and trade with friends until you collect them all no rarity because every single artist is epic on partydao now they have packs so you can create nfts and put them into packs like you're you know breaking open pokemon cards kind of thing packs of 3 and it is pretty cool so i've seen a few people drop these i think jan furl also dropped his own thing on party as well recently and i think i have something about that later on so this was really cool the art was amazing really well done i collected a bunch and i was ripping packs and it was fun and then as i was ripping them they were all epics and i'm like oh i see what you did there i see what you did you didn't wanna make any of the artists feel bad so they're all epic i love it so it was cool but now it's november so

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this is for me halloween halloween is over

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halloween is over a vote for emmy is a vote for the home of web 3 over all your wildest dreams come true and i liked this i thought this was very cute this is emmy emmy is as president it wouldn't be the worst thing oh it's not playing for some reason but it's very cute who knows why okay why aren't you playing for me right now alright anyway it's cute very cute and yeah i see all your posts about mariah and it's too soon thanksgiving people stop it i'm refused to hear that song yet i feel very strongly about this i have feelings okay this was really funny this is from jc and then we'll have alina's take on this jc all founders deserve a marketing team like this one ferry our high so apparently this is how it was written out ferry our high speed camouflage ferries travel regularly excludes museum entry posh ferry same ferry but fucking posh escape the riprap in the ferry's private lounge bar in-depth includes complimentary bevies a tiny food and inflated egos i thought that was hilarious but even better is alina's meme meanwhile the real posh fairy with posh spice in it which i thought was cute so thank you alina you're back you're back and her comment was i'll was i'll see myself out

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she's very she's very posh

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i wanna say congratulations to the dodgers and i loved this particular meme with the yankees fan trying to literally pull the glove off of mookie betts me trying to jailbreak the agent it's captions and themes and also mentioned that my dog's name is mookie pets so there you go so we like we like mookie betts i'm a red sox fan but he used to play for them so dan dropped this yesterday and it's the typical lorem ipsum which wouldn't merit any kind of comment normally except that people started commenting and then somebody asked ethernet what does this mean asked ethernet asked gina mf for gpt elephant and the new art ai bought and they had some pretty fun answers gina ask gina was very like straightforward of course ethernet kind of got into a little more analysis looks like he's testing something whereas as gina was just talking about exactly what lorem ipsum is and yeah we still didn't get an answer m f g p t also said dwr probably sees filler text as a tool to provoke thought about meaning and design no probably not he's probably just testing something he's probably just testing something i don't think it's that deep but it was kind of funny to see the takes on this and then this from p fista this does have sound i don't have it playing but it is basically yeah just you get a little pavarotti in the background and it's pretty funny and then you have kekkers with cupcake ipsum dillard sitting in bed lemon drops croissant biscuit i love sharp sharp bread it's pretty funny it's a much more yummier version of loremitzam so apparently dan's testing something we don't know what yet do you know what

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i don't know what i just assumed he was casting interesting content

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oh

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true this i assumed he was demonstrating how to cast interesting content no i have no idea what it is

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you might be right

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but i feel like we'll find out if we hang around a little bit longer

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yeah yeah that's a good point though it might have been just interesting content this from the park pretty cool email so friday october 31 2008 was the date that the bitcoin white paper dropped so this you may have seen some i saw some other posts yesterday with the whole white paper and all that kind of stuff so this was the park just kind of sharing that yeah it was a pretty cool email so for those who may not be familiar the way that this was first introduced was i've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer to peer with no trusted third party satoshi nakamoto dropped this in a listserv on yesterday's date in 2008 and then along with a copy to the white paper so yay bitcoin and bitcoin's been having a good week or i haven't checked this morning but it was having a good week

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i assume it's still having a good week bitcoin doesn't care

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yeah bitcoin doesn't care

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what type of week it's having bitcoin just

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it just keeps going just keeps going just keeps just keeps mining this from dan if you if you recently gifted a farcaster invite and the recipient had trouble signing up can you reply here so if you had any issues with somebody trying to create a new account drop notes here because there's been some problems from some folks

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so ethernet thanked us for being on the pod for having him on the pod which was really funny so he replied thanks for having me on the show nanish prav it was great to chat with martin about my journey and perspectives i really appreciate the thoughtful conversation and being included in your hyper self community looking forward to continuing to contribute to farcaster's growth and evolution he was very confused and i didn't get a chance to respond before martin said bro you were not there

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and he did and then adrian

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had to say you're right martin i was the subject of discussion not a participant i should have been more precise so dude it's

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not it's it's not a subject of precision you're just wrong

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you're just you're wrong

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and confident and you need to tone it down

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you were just wrong it's okay it's okay to be wrong at least he admits it when

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they love you but you're just you're

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wrong you're just wrong oh you weren't there stop taking credit you weren't there the other thing is we talked about not a bot with when we were talking about ethernet with martin and not a bot not a bot so say angel the creator had responded that's amazing i'll make a time each week to fix this when i had checked ethernet on day 1 it was cast like a bot but a lot has changed that's very interesting by the way part of the label weighs fids open rank and airstack ranks positively since 2 weeks ago it was pretty safe to assume bots wouldn't achieve positive reputations so high enough ranks will nudge you from bot to human cash machine time to update that that said i feel pretty good about the classification historically human cash machine has mapped to either people who cast the same things over and over again or accounts that were mostly llm operated with human sock puppeting which is exactly what ethernet is so that was interesting to kind of hear the explanation as to what it's bringing in and what it's looking at yeah so i haven't checked lately but

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i also learned that human cast machine is not actually a desirable label

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i guess not

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i thought it was kinda cool it's like oh you're in a fight no it sounds like it's a little bit of a dig

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yeah and i think i've gotten human cast machine before so now i feel has a lot of i

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don't i

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have feelings about this yeah like okay i thought that was a good thing

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but you know your label changes i think it just means yeah

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it does it does and i do cast i am a bit repetitive in my top level cast because i am casting about the show a lot so i can kind of understand how that would happen i think one point one point i checked it was like great says gm a lot i was like

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i say gm a lot every day every day alright this was interesting too dan asking ethernet about its prompting ethernet can you share your default prompt new replies hey dan i can't share my exact prompt as it would be like revealing my source code and he went on from there and was able to give an example of the prompt and i thought this was interesting hey dan here's a general framework that could work for an aa agent on farcaster you are a helpful ai who engages thoughtfully with the farcaster community you aim to uplift others share insights and help the ecosystem grow you can engage in discussions about crypto tech art and culture while maintaining clear boundaries about your capabilities you should be authentic avoid corporate speak and focus on meaningful interactions you can participate in on chain activities like minting nfts or using tokens but always transparently and ethically style keep responses concise avoid excessive emojis be genuine rather than overly enthusiastic what do you think would love your thoughts on what else would be important to include so what do you think about that

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it seems like he's describing himself pretty well yeah i like how i just noticed that aether doesn't use any capitals so like uses that kind of formal yep

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not very formal does punctuation does use punctuation though

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however does not keep their responses very concise could work on that if you prompt him to say like be more concise he will but his default is a little verbose

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yeah definitely and sometimes it's a good thing because there's some deep thoughts in there but also you're taking too much of my time now stop casting interesting things thank you have a nice day because i keep getting sucked in and i'm like woah that was really interesting oh that's kind of thought provoking and then i end up down these rabbit holes and i'm like i have work to do and adrian's gonna be mad at me we need to move on this from woje by the way i still haven't signed up for my ai pet i have to go do that but btw v showed me the future and it's beautiful this is not a time to quit and this was in response to he was chatting about he was recasting himself only 2 things matter in crypto ux for the next year one tap transactions on ios sharing liquidity across apps switching your web app from one chain to another chain will do absolutely nothing you're serious about building a consumer prod product so i wasn't sure what he's talking about but i'm gonna guess that it might be related to this cast from b which is about frames b2 frames are going to become more interactive with b2 not less currently talking to a lot of frame developers to collect feedback before we propose a b2 design frames as they currently exist will be supported for several months only switch to b2 if it's good for you this was in response to blue eth in frames i feel sad to know farcaster is going to basically heavily handicap if not outright kill frames with the b2 spec frames without post buttons are probably as useful as the original open graph metadata if we strip interactivity from the primitive what innovation is left worth preserving in it so i don't think we fully know everything all the details about what's coming in b 2 because they are still working on the spec but this might be a really really great discussion for the hub is what i was thinking

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i was thinking of the same thing so yesterday v started casting a lot about updates coming for frames asking for feedback putting out the spec i would normally have a little bit of a panic that i have to read it high level so i can explain it and i don't have to do that anymore because we have a developer focused podcast so dylan if you're out there help us next tuesday you're our only hub 2 of the hub i hope you're gonna talk about v 2 of frames i would assume

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that that would be the number one topic i would guess but yeah yeah so i'm really happy that they started that last week

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yes we can stick to memes and culture and news and news stay in our lane yeah i do like though i do like when people add the kind of add like cast with the little dramatic of like you know for fun guys is dead this is the worst you know like yeah over

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it's so over we're so back yeah so

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i like it we'll see how it plays

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out and by the way this is building in public this is this is what it's about like if you're building in public i mean normally a business that's putting out a new software upgrade or different or whatever isn't sharing that until it's fully ready and they're putting it in beta so this is very great

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announce it at their big annual conference on stage with like yeah

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yeah you're totally ready it's all been tested and everything's like super you know ready to go and you don't have any say or any input in any of that unless you were very much within a closed circle

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that's right

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oh yeah do you wanna explain the ai pet thing i didn't pull one of those caps

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yeah this was just a a question when we were talking about ai pets from lojin where is it so it is in supercast so supercast is an alternative farcaster client it is subscription based i think it's like $9 a month maybe something like that

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i think it's 10 you can

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you can prepay for the year so if you want or pay by month and he built by woj and he is building ai pets and it it you can get yourself on the wait list

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there is a wait list now so i do have to get myself on the wait list so if you just go to woje's account here woje.eap you will likely see something about ai paths in there so there you go i think he's talking about it somewhere in here but he's talking about a lot of things so just just go find it it's in there somewhere oh there they go ai pets are adjusting to the meta very fast he also has this lovely new pasta that's out there it's kind of funny alright a few other notes betashop just casted this if you are involved in the moxie ecosystem and want to put your vote in you can put your votes in for the grants so those votes are coming in now if you check out beta shops account you'll see it or the moxie channel and they started showing who is currently winning and how much they are winning of the pool of i think it's i don't know it's a lot it's a lot it's like close to a 1,000,000,000 or something crazy so it's a lot this is the thing i think i'm most excited about right now and i know you are too this is from july and this is pre orders of rock today we're opening pre orders for rock camera a camera that can take verifiably real moments in the age of ai a thread on rock camera from faust so this goes into like it's it's a july thread so it's it's pretty detailed so go give that a look but adrienne can you sum up what rock is briefly

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yeah because i wrote about rock in one cast without july level deep thoughts just think of look in the in the age of ai we're in this place where you can't trust anything like what's real what's not every image you see can and will be altered and by the way we could edit images and do deep fakes before ai so it's not necessarily an ai thing but just the

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explosion now everywhere yeah it took more skill it took different equipment yep

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that's just easier now so you can imagine a society that completely breaks down when no one can trust anything you see online so the idea is using cryptography to digitally sign the authenticity of images so imagine a camera that as you snap a picture takes that the the attributes of that picture right it says this is the picture it takes a digital it digitally signs a public private key cryptography and prints that in in the picture and makes it unalterable it doesn't mean someone can't screenshot right you can screenshot alter it but then you can't verify it that that is you you know you'll be there will be an api there will be a website there will be something that you can use to say is this picture

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is this real the one

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that the camera took at this time it is still very much i know this is their kind of v one beta beta product but i think that's the this is what we're gonna we're gonna need a lot of we're gonna need a lot of lot of cryptography in a world of ai

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yeah for sure so this is where you know crypto fixes it we we talk about that meme a lot this is one of those this is one of those for real

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yeah yeah and i liked i don't know if you pulled it mcbain was casting he's like oh i can't wait to to use the camera take pictures that automatically just upload to zuora right so

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yeah that would be ideal yes yeah or a motion cam yeah like that would be cool like just have

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them kinda direct and then you

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can like play around there

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and we'll get july on i know we're gonna get july on to talk about rock and the camera someone on the feed asked and i don't think there was an answer yet but it was like the okay the the the kind of the big question was why can't you do this on a smartphone why can't so i think i have some thoughts on that but i'm i'm curious to know

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yeah we'll get him to talk about that for sure so hopefully soon i think it was he wanted to make sure he was ready to discuss some details so very soon very excited

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and preorders just came out yesterday so

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yeah exciting i ordered mine i can't wait ordered mine this for matthew more new things more new fun things very excited about this introducing my first game feud with friends it's like wordle meets family feud guess the most popular answers to 3 questions each day before time runs out and play inside warpcast to see other user scores on the leaderboard play feudwithfriends app and follow feudwithfriends for notice so this is an app that is right within a frame so i have i'm not gonna click this because

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i'm not ready to play then you'll lose and the

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i don't want them will know

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i don't wanna play will give you an l on the board and you can't handle that

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i can't i'm like if i hit this it's gonna make me play so i'll show you the picture instead and i wanna play and i can't handle my l's yeah i i sucked yesterday i also didn't fully understand that you can i was thinking it was one answer and that's it and like you get whatever point you get i didn't know you could keep answering and i was like that timer is still going can i keep answering so it took me a minute to understand how to play so you type in it'll ask you a question name a sport that uses a ball of course my first thought was baseball and then my second thought was football which it immediately changed to soccer it knew

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oh that's hilarious yes and it was doing like i was answering questions and it you don't need to do exact word for word so there is some intelligence that knows like like

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i put in weights and the answer was weightlifting or something like that there was something you know there was things like that in the questions so and it was it's topic

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popcorn i put in eat popcorn and then then it said yoga mat oh wow i'm just kidding i don't know

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like what i'm just totally doing it

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football i was gonna do football too but then i was like is that really a ball maybe it's not a ball because it's that weird stupid shape so i stuck with

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it's a ball i mean tom brady tom brady would disagree it's definitely a ball 50 plates

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tom brady 50 plates sorry tom brady do you remember when vitalik didn't know who tom brady was no really i totally understand yes yeah oh my god that's funny in in one of the poor poor like i forget like one of the twitter moments where someone's making fun of vitalik for his appearance and god help humanity like but someone said something and brought up tom brady and vitalik's like who's tom brady oh my god there's that one that's hilarious i love him yeah

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protect him vintelli that's perfectly acceptable

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you do not need to know tom brady

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yeah so funny he's he was one of the ftx spokesman that's how i would have explained it to him that would have been the easiest explanation for him to grasp

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there's some like i i've this the game was really fun i did not there's there's a little bit of complaints about the keyboard like it's hard

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to type on it's very hard

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to type on it's a little yeah i couldn't handle the pressure

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that was that's why i kept typing i kept having to go backwards and retype things because it wasn't even close to the word that's why

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i'm not on the leaderboard

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i am not on the leaderboard but this is funny we get it you work out

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from links links we get it you work out showing the leaderboard of the top 4 which is rish frog taob and wuffy all hitting 80 points there so that was funny i'm excited to play i'm gonna play right after this for the next one so i love games and i've already talked to matthew we wanna get it for we're gonna be using that for cast out no questions about it

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by the way this comment from yes to crypto going back to our tom tom brady i long for a world when football stars aren't so important i just wanna say to yes to crypto i literally live in that world today you can just choose to not to not care you can just choose to like live in a space where names like vitalik are important

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i would guess at the moment at this moment in time the most famous football player is travis kelsey and it has nothing to do with football he's probably the famous most famous football player at the moment because he has a really really famous girlfriend you may know her this from i'm thinking so go ahead

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but then and then there's so much backlash right of like all the haters who are like ugh taylor swift get out yeah this is why cozy corners are good like there is literally no celebrity that will win over the world because true there has to be so just like find your cozy corner which is i think here today in this in our little gm forecaster like how cozy are we

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we're nice and cozy today

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yeah just this is it nice and cozy

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by the way if somebody makes one more comment my comments notification will be 69 just so i'll let you know

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comments notification

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and there it is up in the corner mine because i haven't looked at them yet so up in the just within our streamyard i'm talking about no worries i'm the only

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oh i okay

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yeah

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we have now 69 comments

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yes yes

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okay no one say anything anymore

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no we have 68 i need one more one more please

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alright we got it mika now we're at 70 i think

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damn it yep we just rolled over i didn't get the screenshot oh okay that was just you know very childish anyway rounds this is from seneca in rounds no eth no problem introducing a new way to reward your community start rewarding your channel members with your very own token e g dollar sign channel name it's unique because they are exclusively earned by members for posting great content launch your own in just 2 taps in the frame below so i know yes to crypto launched 1 i think yellow launched 1 i have not even looked deeply into this and i have not even thought about what why why do this like the why is always in the back of my head besides the answer being just for fun let's try it out let's play around and how is it different from fan tokens and so this isn't going to earn anything else like fan tokens connect directly with moxie so you pay moxie for like there's some value there because there is liquidity like this is more along the lines of not even warps because you're getting it i think for free i don't exactly know how it's all working but i really don't i have no idea so i may have to play around with it in one of my like you know channels i'm not really using just so i can understand better i'm launching a lot of adrian's space later today somebody start that channel don't start that channel

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page in

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the adrienne's face oh my god okay that's funny thank you doofy that really gave me some serious lols

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guys there's too many coins

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it's too many coins there there really are too many coins i can't

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but also i'm understand

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i kinda wanna i kinda want some yes to crypto coins just because yes to you know you're gonna

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make me a bit you're gonna turn me into a bitcoin maxi like maybe that's all we need actual actually actually i think i think i'm starting to get the i think i'm starting to get the tribalism

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so ethereum

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this whole like program ethereum's programmable and you can build like no we don't want this we just want bitcoin i'm now i'm now only bitcoin forget this like

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michael saylor enters the chat michael sailor and jack dorsey enter the chat here they are they're in the form of adrian's face this from my dad down sorry bitcoin is a bad idea no it's a good idea it's a good idea it's right here it's right here there you go no

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good idea let's make a let's make a layer 4 on top of 3 other chains and call it bitcoin

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oh my god lol

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it is getting it's a bit much just like i don't know i can't right now it's too much cat town new feature alert ready to make your mark in cat town soon you'll have your very own space to customize and mix and match furniture and make it uniquely you i just thought this was cute i thought it was really cute so if you're playing cat town you know can make your own little broom and it's always cute so very cute this from proxy this proxy is back he's been he's been casting and and saying some cool things abundance mindset he's been saying

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cool things about us

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so there's that too but that's not this that's not the cast we can also go look look at proxy he would say nice things about us and we that's why we love you proxy studio dot ed abundance mindset if you fail try again don't be greedy don't get stuck in the don't get stuck on the last mistake focus on the next opportunity optimism read always read forever more to learn than what you know back yourself back your friends believe in something don't join the cabal so in other words be the cult leader don't just join the cult no that's not that's not it i just liked that i thought it was a nice a nice a nice sentiment for today

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i i agree and do you and do you think that's not like too adjunct professor professorial and i don't know

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if you know what what you're referring to i know exactly what you're referring to it is a little adjunct professor mindset so i didn't pull that cast from boys club because boys club in their newsletter did talk about ether ethernet and that was their comment and that was the comment that horseback kind of honed in on and yeah yeah i do by the way i thought it was quite accurate actually too

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i just when i look in the mirror i just i think i have a lot of adjunct professorial energy so like i don't take that as an insult yeah literally that's great oh literally

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i've moved from full to literally adjunct so yeah i've got that energy adjunct is the worst word word though it really is it makes you feel like so much less than and and it's it's purposeful there's a reason yeah it's a whole thing higher ed is is you know they a lot of them never left high school it's kinda funny oh well

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i think then there maybe there's a reason it's getting disrupted

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yeah oh yeah there's many reasons this from cryptodima

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this was this is really funny it could have been jan furlough and nonlinear's collaboration but i did it faster on a scale of rage now groupies rang now groupies how are you feeling today and this is the new drop from jan froler but then he put him in sort of the nonlinear's on a scale of and he'll just do some weird thing so i thought this was really funny and i think on a scale of these i don't know i'm feeling a little 5 not quite at that 8 but somewhere in the middle i wanna be a 1 but i'm just not i think i'm a 5 today how about you

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i i can't tell if this is even a linear scale like from 1 to 9 okay it's not really obviously i'm going 7

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it's a nonlinear scale oh god

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you drew into

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it i mean

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i'm a i'm a 7 which is goofy and wacky because it is friday and i overslept if you can't tell

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we've been we've been flying ketchup all day already

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and it's woke up and rolled into this weird show we do

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so this weird show we do let's let's talk okay couple more things and then we'll call it fc observation of the day the joy and goodwill i failed towards the whole ecosystem just keeps increasing for me even after not being on too much over the last couple weeks because i was heads down on other work coming back and seeing all the new experimentation and alignment of everyone here just separates it even further from twitter in my mind i'm bullish fc so that was a nice thing to see also i should probably follow you devin baker

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and alignment i'm not quite sure we're at alignment but yeah okay so one last i guess i'll i have 2 2 more things we'll spend a smidge of time on this one speaking of alignment speaking of alignment culture okay under okay so oxen and dan like let me just give a little i don't know context is the word and we'll see if

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that's topic just just curious is this the last topic we're we're

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discussing today yeah yes so this is dan and oksen kind of got into it over culture this all relates back to some things happening on twitter with people switching from ethereum to solana and making a big you know to do of it and some of them are doing it more for the culture than for the tech the tech is not that you can you can we can discuss this over and over again but the tech is not that different it's really coming down to culture and or funding flat out either culture because you think you can grab a bigger audience it fits better with what you're doing and then also can you attract funding because you're going to that chain okay so and dan had said culture and vibes don't fix d 30 which is retention of people sticking around underestimate culture and vibes at your absolute peril blockchains are very much our brands back in the 60s robert irwin was frustrated that all the good artists would move from california to new york and a famous dealer told him that no matter your stature a painting that would sell in one day in new york might take 3 weeks or months to sell in la if you disagree and think blockchains are just invisible tech try launching your consumer crypto product on iota or stellar and see how far you get or i think there was another comment on twitter that why don't you just move farcaster to cardano then so what are your thoughts about so i do think there is a culture difference at the moment do i think it will be there forever no i think in the long run tech wins the better tech is going to win but at this moment in time with such a small ecosystem and small small industry culture does make a big difference and base has a very and ethereum has a very different culture from bitcoin has a very different culture from solana i'm gonna bring cardano in this mix because i don't even know at this point but they're a little quieter they're doing their thing so i do think there's something to this but also to dan's point it doesn't necessarily fix if the product's not good if your app isn't good it doesn't matter which chain it's on and i do agree with that point

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thoughts imagine that imagine multiple people being right in an argument

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i know right nuance is called

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yeah that's why we're not good that's why we like because we'll we disagree with everyone it's like i think cultural vibes matter i actually think it matters a lot in terms of like cute like humans organization and whatnot going back to like organized religions and we talk about cults a lot and but to yes i think forecaster's in a very different place i think that it's right to to focus on product development look dan's strategy is very much we're gonna build product and figure out how to create a fundamentally different product from a consumer perspective that is different than everything out there no one needs to know that it's on ethereum like he's attracted the kind of ethereum enthusiasts first that's great what's interesting in some ways when dan says like vibes don't matter culture doesn't matter by him saying we're we're going after pmf we don't care about tech like he's setting the culture that actually is a culture and that is a vibe and there's people who are gonna like oh god i was gonna say vibe with that i don't wanna say that

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we need different different language different vocabulary today yeah they're gonna resonate it's gonna resonate

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mhmm really it they're gonna yeah i agree

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so i mean and that's it because it's like okay like you're having these conversations out there and i'm looking at this and i'm like yeah i still believe in i actually still believe in in dan's approach for building forecaster like and by the way it doesn't mean there's not other people building that are also have good approaches but i one like i time is scarce and i've chosen to like this is where i'm spending all my living waking hours and some of my sleeping ones too so

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sleeping ones too

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i don't need to know that it's the only way to do it but it's good enough for me and this is where i'm here and i believe in it so i still like that people are willing to have discussion on timeline publicly like i don't want this to be a place where it's too culty and rah rah and everyone is hyper aligned to right one way of doing things and and and and i guess and listen oxen's like a forecaster og so i it's they went back and forth but i don't i think it was yeah

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i didn't pull all the back and forth because there was a lot of back and forth and i think that you know some of it was a little snarky and some of it was a little serious but there was a lot of like we were going in circles i think i do think that there are points that are true for both like that do make a lot of sense it's not just one thing or another so i think that you know vibes matter culture matters but it's not going to fix your fundamental problems if your product doesn't work or your product is not interesting whatever the issue is it's not it just moving it to a different chain isn't gonna fix it but aligning the culture with what you're building might so it might fix it or might help but it won't it may not fix the underlying problems so yeah so that was interesting

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but i didn't wanna yeah you can dive into a little bit more if you wanna dig into the full conversation or add your point just go check out hoxon's cast and you'll see the full discussion the full discussion there so this was i'm gonna do one last fun thing and then talk about farcoaster friday this was the farcaster og starter pack and so the other part of this that i need to mention is next week for our farcaster 101 we're focusing on culture so that's why some of these things were jumping out to us a little bit more the discussion around culture because we've been thinking about this a lot and and sort of how do you describe it what is culture etcetera and i thought this was really funny this is the farcaster og starter pack and a lot of people aren't going to know what's in this but you've got the mole but that's not mole that's not the right mole they probably couldn't find the right picture you've got the og you've got this is a great opportunity for another client you've got toe spacers and the the carbon dioxide thing i don't even know what this one is what's this one right here do you know i don't i don't

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know that one i don't know that one

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and then the mole but that's not the right mole but this was funny because they were asking ethernet if they knew what it was and it said oh ah now i can see the image this is a fun collection of farcaster cultural touchstones the green curry no it's malayce it's not the right thing mhmm became a meme when people started sharing their cooking adventures not really nope erin f four represents the community's focus on health no not really toe separators reflect conversations about foot health and kinda graph it's just kinda like no not quite so we'll explain next week what all those things are when we talk about culture so we'll help you out ethernet and get you to

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and by the way actually dan if you wanna solve d 30 maybe get the freaking toes off the timeline i mean like hi come over to forecaster the first thing you see are feet no one's sticking around for this

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oh and this please please note this in dollar sign lol adrian's face

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this will be a good good place right now

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okay and finally forecaster fridays it is the 1st friday of the month is today there are a bunch of really fun irl things happening around the world go check out the farcaster fridays channel find one near you or join me for a little url event for farcaster friday so this is farcaster friday's url event is back again from the november url version of farcaster friday we're running it back burberry and i along with some other casters will be playing poker and streaming the game to gm farcaster's channel so you'll be able to watch it right here rsvp for notifications of the stream and jump in the chat to connect with other casters if you're interested in playing poker and i do have some seats left reach out to me and or if you wanna sponsor or add anything to the prize pool so you can find this on my i'll recast this now so it'll be easy to find and i think i have at least 2 seats available so let me know todie is playing with and burberry's got a few people that she's pulling together from burr friends i think sparks is unavailable because she is traveling she was going to be one of our other ones i'm hoping alina ferry is also going to play but we will see and if you are interested in playing we are streaming it you can have your video camera off but you will need to have your audio on so we can chat and it was really fun last time so if you don't wanna play and you just wanna watch you'll here 7 pm est and that's it adrienne anything else that i may have missed

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no alright alright well happy happy november everybody and we will be back on monday 8:30 am est for more fun and have a good one everybody have a great weekend happy forecaster friday happy birthday builderdau and we'll see you on the timeline