Transcript: GM Farcaster ep194 Friday December 13, 2024 with @billzh

NounishProf, adrienne, billzh · GM Farcaster

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gm farcaster it is a happy friday december 13th my grandmother's birthday happy birthday grandma in heaven she's not still with us but and you are here with nana's prop and adrianne for 29 minutes ish of farcaster news plus today we have an interview with our friend bill z bill z h on webcast and he will be chatting with us about what he's building on solana so it's our solana friday i think vote for pedro is also swinging by i believe so we'll get a little update on the solano eco solana ecosystem and chat with bill and see what he's building now so this is

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and wait it's friday 13th

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i just noticed something you had your hair did and it looks great

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oh why thank you

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can you tell

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yeah

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like actually because i slept on it and didn't do it this morning but this is this is what happens when you spend money to get a haircut it lasts overnight

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yeah

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and it looks good in the morning

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today's friday the 13th

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i still have a cough so

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i know when i see you mute when i see you mute and have a coughing attack on air i'll just banter today is also someone else's birthday and

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taylor swift

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oh of course i i yeah

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i don't think i connected those connected those holidays

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amazing so happy happy swifty holiday to all of you i did not know that that's amazing oh i wish my grandmother was still here so she could know that she shares a birthday with taylor swift i'm sure she would love that

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right isn't there that twitter account like is it ted danson like today is not ted danson's birthday is that or it's someone i forget who it is but it's also not greg

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that's funny that's funny it's not my birthday and it's not greg's birthday but if it was we would wish you a happy birthday but it's not alright let's dive in yes i do still have a cold so bear with me this from dwr how do i get my frame listed in the warp cast explore section 1 must be a v two frame 2 frame needs to open smoothly and quickly 3 frame should not prompt to connect to wallet other than the f frames v 2 wagme connector bad ux for users 4 properly sized frame icon 5 has valid and complete manifest see link publicly casted by the creator feel free to dc the cast so this is actually if you've looked in the new explore button it's actually little icons now and they're just the frame icons and you can add the ones you want there's a little directory and you can add them basically like a shortcut so right now mine consists of 2 do you have any idea which 2

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i'm gonna guess you've got yoink

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yep

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and along those same lines same lines i have basketball basketball i have the basketball game and the yoink game that's it those are my 2 my 2 favorites so definitely check this out if you want to get your frame listed and in related news frame devs looking for your questions and feedback on notifications so this is from horse facts what are your questions about notifications if you haven't added a manifest yet why if you're not using notifications yet why if you're catching up see the docs here so and then he goes on to talk about adding a manifest and notifications down below so if you're a dev working on frames go get back with horse facts and tell him what you're thinking this also from warpcast new warpcast improved search tab this is from dwr i meant simplified single feed design improved recommendations autocomplete while you type that's huge so this is a new simplified design better recommendations autocomplete so have you noticed anything different about the search

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i did notice the autocomplete and it does seem a pinch faster which search was kinda slow for me i haven't checked if the recommendations or kind of the quality of the results have been improved but search has consistently been something that they just kinda kicked out because it's hard to do search well so early days it was like not necessarily the biggest priority and consistently when when he has asked for feedback people are politely saying like better search we always had these like other tools that weren't built by merkel right famously searchcaster by greg back in the day which was like the godest of all like initial clients that i used to use or other tools and of course buoy by vista as in pfista

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pfista

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yep and it's i'm happy to see it integrated and hopefully it keeps getting better yeah i still struggle with finding old casts i mean

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yeah i think it's hard to find casts like most of the time i'm using the search to find a channel or a user and it works fine for that but when you're looking for information yeah it's definitely not the greatest sometimes you hit it sometimes you don't but we'll see we'll see over time if this improves

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this from dwr frames tab and frame notifications are now live new and webcast revamped frames tab access your favorite frames in 2 taps tap a frame to launch it tap explore to access the growing list of v two frames you can add any v two frame to your in your feed remove a frame with a long press that's good to know because i think i've been having an issue where i've been adding it and then couldn't figure out how to get rid of it so i've just been discarding the cast because i forgot about that part i was looking for a little x i'm looking for the little you know what i mean like when you embed something and there's a little x there's no little x so that would be helpful rather than the long press replaces the old explore tab live on mobile no immediate plans for web so i think we had and we i had already mentioned that that's where i have like my little ballgame and the young game are in there free and then also frames can now send notifications when you add a frame it will have the ability to send you in app notifications on warp cast turn off notifications or remove a frame by long pressing the frame icon on the frames tab only frames you explicitly add to warp cast could send you notifications simply using the frame does not so for example yoink has a notification when somebody has yoinked the flag from you so if you if you're playing that is a useful notification if that's something you're you enjoy

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and we'll talk about yoink quite a bit in just just a moment moving on this from pugson people making frames v 2 aka mini apps inside work case work cast have it so good they don't have to worry about app store review process system permissions integrating payments last minute bug fixes stuck in review and they get the free network effect and push notifications out of the box i think this is a great point that a lot of builders especially if you're not like i think if you're not building an app you may not realize the those benefits and how much friction there is and how many challenges there are to putting an app in the app store

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yeah and some of these like the permissions integrating payments that's just because you're being built on on farcaster where everything's open anyway as opposed to if you're building on apple which is a closed system you just kind of have access to all of that additional information things like review process i i would just caveat it's probably much faster now because we're small and it's easier to get in there still is i guess you could build a frame but i guess to get it listed that there's a review

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process yeah but the but it's a little different than getting it reviewed by apple which is a much more extensive process i think that's what it that's what it means this from davis shaver i made a wordpress plugin that connects your wordpress site to farcaster and enables it for frames v 2 so very cool so if you're using wordpress and want to add this plug in very cool thing this from jesse jesse pollock's end of year ama and it was streamed live on stream which we really need to integrate we know this we will get it done it will probably happen next week but this is very cool you could just open the frame it was off it's offline now but you could open the frame and you would see him chatting right there so very cool i think we can also add videos here i just haven't we it's just like one more thing so we just haven't had time to really dive in but i think this is very cool you can also launch a token on the stream directly within stream now and that's a really cool feature reminds me of something there was this this platform i don't know i remember it from somewhere i don't know but anyway i think it's on solana now but there used to be something like that but they they never got to the point of putting it in a frame oops wait that's supposed to be second i like what's going on here this place is very agent friendly l f g this is from shaw makes magic which everyone was celebrating their arrival to celebrate the arrival of shaw makes magic the a i 16 z base wallet now has 1% of the 100,000,000,000 harmonybot token supply and the clinker token launched by the first eliza agent on fc agents are coming clank clank so there's like a whole thing here

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so anything to i don't know shaw makes magic and i don't know eliza and i'm not sure what's going on here so if you can fill me in that would be great

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give you the the very quick tldr shaw makes magic just joined farcaster yesterday so it's okay that you don't know who they are

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okay great

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they're the creator of the eliza framework also okay if you don't know what the eliza framework is

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do not do you

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remember the eliza token from the ai 16 z

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yes

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account that we've had opinions about so that was i think lowercase e the capital case or all caps eliza anyway it is an open source framework for building ai agents got it if you are a dev and you wanna build an an ai agent you're gonna use this library it is it has like connections automatically to all the different socials so it's not forecast or native it is if you wanna you know for twitter bots let me see if i can remember who it was someone and if you give me enough time i will come up with a name but maybe not when i'm being forced to think about it someone in farcaster created a a pr request and added ability to also post to farcaster recently so now eliza has like native functionality to also post to farcaster got it so on twitter the creator sean makes magic was asking hey something about farcaster bots and wanting people in farcaster to use eliza more then everyone's like hey what's this dude's farcaster username and he didn't have one no it was like oh we wanna follow you on farcaster because he was like pushing farcaster he was promoting farcaster on twitter but he wasn't even on farcaster so everybody asked him his name he didn't have it he showed up yesterday with a nice little gm the world celebrated and that is here we are

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now thank you okay i needed to catch up on this because i have been heads down somewhere else which we'll talk about in just a second before we get bill we see you there we'll bring you up in like 5 minutes okay thank you for that primer because i didn't know what was going on and why everybody was celebrating this and that makes a lot of sense so thank you alright and speaking of agents this from dish and dish will be with us on monday for monday's show very excited to chat with him if there's a if there's been a clinker you'd like removed because it is using your account for public publicity or hateful remarks please tag me and i will have it removed from the website awful to see these bad actors prying on prominent people in our community working on a policy to outline guidelines and advanced moderation so this is coming soon and this actually was related to this as well we've talked about samantha's situation yesterday and then there was this with bounty caster somebody actually created another linda pretty messed up but it but this is from linda pretty messed up but inevitable that someone created an impersonator account of mine and asked clanker to deploy a fake token for bounty caster with its name and logo so sorry to see this that sucks we also saw one for phil yesterday but this was also some good advice from linda the trick to working in crypto a really long time is not letting someone else's shitty behavior ruin your day so keep that in mind

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good life advice

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good life advice for sure a couple other things that i wanna mention really quickly before we bring bill up i just loved your new starter pack sarcasters so if you're looking for the sarcastic people on on warpcast follow the sarcasters but also just understand that they might be being sarcastic so don't take everything they say literally so there you go also multiple people on the on this particular pack said you're missing links

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i know i can't believe i forgot links like literally the like the the most sarcastic person who's in my face all day long i know monday wednesday and friday i know

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it was really funny i was like you're that was the first thing i thought of i'm like links isn't on here what's going on

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but he's in my defense he's not as sarcastic i think on the feed

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true you are right in your point yeah

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his casts are not so sarcastic like chase who did i put i said it i literally wanted to make it just for leeward bound and chase summer because everything they say is sarcastic but in a kinda funny way they make me laugh and then linx is just fun like he's he's very sarcastic

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more in our chat than it on geomparcaster yeah this from entropy vendor today oh my god i'm not sarcastic people today we're launching operator earn points for interacting with ai agents on your feed here's how it works find a post reply by an agent on farcaster reply to that agent and tag operator in the post explain the context behind the agent's post to earn points more details below this is really interesting

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really interesting approach to like it and it's not necessarily agents he's created so very cool to be adding this little little bonus here this from garrett bat based miss is here ask based santa for a present so this is based evo is doing a based miss so base santa delivers presents between 7 and 11 7 and 11 est daily your fc connected wallet needs 1,000,000 plus based to receive a present one present limit during base miss if you fill out our base miss list the form then you may be eligible for a second present after december 19th and more surprises coming so ho ho ho base santa is delivering presents so check that out hold on one sec

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dying dying of small death here it's okay alright and lastly i have to just we gotta talk about this really quick cast out today at noon i'll dive in a lot more detail as to what's been happening with this the yoink game is on i deeply regret that this wasn't the first game even more so now after watching how hard these teams are going it was tied at one point just a couple hours ago because foamie's moved up and tied with f c o f crypto wen moon has not slept i think he's sleeping in 9 minute increments it's unreal how hard they're going on this like i'm feeling bad so i actually changed the challenge for today and canceled it because

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oh you're giving them the weekend off

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i can't like there's no because it was supposed to be a live challenge like right after the show today and there's no way like they need to go sleep i feel bad like the mom and me kicked in and i was like oh my god i feel awful that these people have not slept all night so we're canceling the challenge for today but we're still we're gonna do the show we're gonna break it all down we're going to do the vote and then we're gonna take the weekend off and maybe they'll make some confessionals over the weekend but this was an a herculean effort and also some really funny comments so alina ferri horsebacks we need to talk and roman sis saying this beautiful thing is also calling for you right now you'd help it a lot it's just a gif of various beds trying to get them to go to sleep so they could catch up and then crypto and moon you sleep repeats again like the foamies coming at f c o f trying to get them to go to sleep so they could take over and it worked so but this was the 2 am eastern yoinking they were still yoinking like crazy never stop yoinking so and then this from ron says why most people aren't sleeping with various reasons why phomies are sleeping 2 to 5 hours it's just the flag so i once again shocked at the level of commitment didn't didn't see especially the the certain people who are actually the ones who are digging in like i didn't you know they were they were kind of flying below the radar and like this was their game apparently so they are they came to play and it's been hilarious so

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and the game's not over

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no it's not over it's over at 11 there's a couple more hours left and they are still going at it and so super impressed but i'm i'm giving you guys a break you need to sleep i feel bad that's navy seal style sleeping yes yes yes it is links by the way i meant to message you this morning if you're available at noon and want to join me on cast out i would love to have you i'll message you after this alright because adrian will not be there and originally i was gonna do something else and it's we're not doing that so i just need to do a quick show alright let's bring up bill bill z who's been waiting in the wings g m bill

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g m g m great to see you guys can't hear you

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to see you too yeah we can hear you great i haven't seen you in forever how have you been

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good good yeah i feel like we haven't got got a chance to to talk in since probably far con right which was yeah seems like forever ago so it's nice to to to

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see 700 years ago i mean 7 months ago same thing

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yeah something like that

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yeah it's great to see you absolutely adrian i'm gonna let you take over for a second

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yeah bill we i don't know if your ears have been ringing but we were talking about you recently on our

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show oh really yeah was that that the solana with the solana foundation people

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unfortunately not actually yes of course we talked about you with the solana foundation people but praff and i did a farcaster 101 series it's like 12 modules to introduce new people to farcaster and we're going through just like not just you know some of the tech stuff but a lot of it is just like how do you understand this platform and one of the one of our modules was about meme coins on farcaster

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oh of course yeah i no recollection of any of that sorry

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so i'm sorry if you wanted people to forget but we will not let you because

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i do see the cover it's it's on it's on this area

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i don't know did you see the cover of this

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by the way i did i yeah yeah i mean initially i i didn't really understand what it meant but i realized yeah probably you know it's going to be related to to the to the memecoin yeah but no my my memory is is very limited sorry

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short memories well we're excited you're a a a forecaster og we met at farcon in boston the the the beta you were very active in purple very active early early days and i know you are building something new and we'd love to hear about it

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yeah absolutely so in the past maybe 4 or 5 months we've been working on a social side product on solana and it's called tribe.run the the idea is pretty simple it enables a user to bet on a creator by purchasing their creator token and once you have enough creator tokens you can join a private group chat with the creator and then you can do a bunch of things you know in in the chat and we have a lot of you know other other things going on outside of the chat but the core idea is to enable anyone to bet on creators and then if you want to have a exclusive group chat to have exclusive access to to to the creator so we've been beta testing this product for the past two and a half months we've got it's still in private beta you can't really you know sign up directly but we've got 1300 people helping us you know test our product iterate and you know we are planning to to go public with this product in probably in the in the next couple of months you know obviously we need to polish the product to to make sure that our smart contract works right unlike some other random meme coin that happened a year ago

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we we were very happy that yes i mean exactly yeah that that's that's how you're growing in crypto but we're very happy to to see that you know that this product has already received some support from the solana community and then of course you know the the smart contract itself lives on solana but you know if it's a certified product it doesn't really matter which chain it is on and today you can connect either twitter or farfaster and in fact we have a huge number of people that that that connects farfaster either exclusively or you know alongside it with a bigger profile so anyway you know we are we've been testing this product iterating for for the past 2 to 3 months and you know we're happy to see what what we we've got today and you know most of the time i'm i'm just coding i'm actually in the middle of a a a major contract upgrade and haven't got a lot of sleep recently but yeah i mean that's the the the the intro

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nice you're in the throes of development it's good it's good that's good energy so tribe dot run i've is has its own interface right so people go there that's where the chats are the token itself is on solana but that's just kind of fueling the access and and kind of dated but i can have my social account on farcaster it can be twitter or whatever it doesn't really matter

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exactly yeah

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so why why why did you choose solana

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yeah i mean i i i think that this comes back to why we're we're building on why we're building socialfi honestly my my perspective on socialfi has changed a lot in in the past year initially if you talk to me about socialfi a year ago i would say that i'm not interested in anything related to finance if i'm building a social product which is why you know as you guys know that our previous product abura which was a forecast or client it had very limited i would probably even know financial components but i think what you know my understanding of the social space has evolved in the past 5 months mostly because of you know the the fact that i've talked to a lot of people that use frontec and other social products and i realized that there is a that there is important component in social space that i've missed which is social fire allows you to bet on creators that are underrated and you can get rewarded financially and socially by believing in somebody early and specifically it's in a form of of tokens so this whole financial aspect was ignored when we were building on forecaster when we're building forecaster clients but today we were trying to bring it back and and then we think that solana is the best place to do that because there there's already a lot of some sort of meme coin and socialfi related activities happening pump.fund is a great example it's not in itself a socialfy product but you know you guys probably know that it had live streaming you know it's on pause but you know it had a lot of live streaming activities and then people can comment on the on the token so there's also social activities

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and obviously it has attracted a lot of liquidity to solana from from other platforms right so so for us it is it's less about sort of which chain that do we want to build on but but just about you know where people are already doing social file related activities so so so we decided to make a huge pivot when we started building this product because the the last one you know abura was a forecaster and also some of that is was on base and the the the meme coin that we launched last year was on ethereum mainnet right so it was less yeah it was less about which which chain but but but again it's it's about where people are already doing activities today

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yeah makes sense i think that i mean and especially for what you're doing i don't think i've seen something is there something similar already on solana i don't think there is yeah so

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and i mean the so people have been bidding a lot of a lot of things and you know obviously i think if you if you go back long enough you can find some something like that but i would say solana today is mostly meme coin trading it's because solana has its roots in sort of in the trading community it's very high performance and people can trade at at a much lower cost so i i think that the social part is is a bit nascent but we're seeing you know a lot of new apps coming up and we're happy to be part of this cohort

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amazing amazing adrienne what else did you

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yeah bill so of your you said you've kind of 1300 users in your beta test where are you finding users

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yeah so so mostly on twitter

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community unfortunately early community twitter like crypto

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twitter yeah yeah yeah so so so we've obviously initially we want to go to market on on caster we never talk about this anywhere else but you know the the the the thing is if you wanna find people that actually are in the trenches that are trading you know either mim coins or they were on frantech trading socialfi tokens unfortunately today these people are still on twitter i've actually reached out

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it's okay we we love twitter lot a lot of our friends are on twitter we say

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hi to our hi symbio symbio's on twitter

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yeah cardno is on twitter what's up guys

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cardno hey cardno

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it's a gm symbio and twitter family it's over yeah

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yeah so so we we we found most of our initial user base on on twitter and that was also a result of you know me reaching out to a lot of ex frontek users you know just initially asking for feedback what what where they saw their product you know not our product frontek and then based on our feedback we could iterate we can we we can build something better and obviously our product and friend tech we're trying to solve the same problem but using very different approaches so i i just i just you know i think the most of the socialify sort of enthusiasts they are they're not super active on forecaster

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so that's my question for you is is what did you learn from the friendtech experience that you're yeah bringing to your product

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exactly so so fun fact i i remember the the week that frontec launched last year and you know obviously we were on forecaster at the time i think the prevailing sentiment at the time was that if you if you use frontec you're definitely a loser and i definitely believe in that so so i i didn't use frontec until like much later and then i think i was wrong because i've talked to this is based on user hundreds of user interviews that i've done with ex frontec people first of all there there is a real problem to be solved which is as i mentioned you know betting on traders early and getting rewarded financially and socially the front tag and these gave us a glimpse of what what that future would look like but what we also learned is what not to do this is probably even even more important so i guess the the most important thing that nothing that we shouldn't do is we should not build a extractive economic model so this is what what what we where we're talking about had the to it

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frintech had the bonding curve is that what you mean or so

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we we also have a bond i think the bonding curve is fine the the the problem is number 1 they have a very high trading fees so if you trade $100 $10 goes to the fees right half of that goes to creators so the creator would be happy but the thing is it's kind of it it it incentivizes short term volatility over long term sustainability and and a huge issue was was that that comes with that is you know the creators have very limited incentive in the long term to keep posting because the volatility happens at the start once you know you post on twitter and people join but after that there's there's no incentive for people to stay engaged so we have basically designed a new economic model so that creators would stay incentivized because there is a subscription model built in a subscription to something that's new i mean patreon and many other apps have have that but how do how how can you bring that natively to the bonding curve model that this is where we sort of did a bit of innovation so we we said that if you want to trade the tokens you can just trade you you don't have to pay monthly subscription fees at all but if you wanna have the social features then you first of all you need to have enough tokens and then you can you can join the chat but every day you gotta pay certain fees every day it gets deducted from your account if you don't have enough tokens after the deduction you'll get kicked out of the chat so that is a way to keep the the creators creators and the fans engaged and we recently introduced something that would allow the creators to turn off the fees temporarily to boost engagement if if they want to and at the same time they can they can do a zk compression airdrop which is which is a silent term term terminology but basically an airdrop at a very low cost to its its members and if let's say the creator has its own has their own token or they have bought tokens on pump.fund or other platforms or they could just they they just want to give back some of the tokens that they received from the fence they can use this airdrop feature to

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to

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distribute the the tokens to to the fans and you can choose if you wanna distribute it to the chat i e people that really wanna talk to you or you can distribute it to the entire fan base but with a specific bonus to the people in your chat right so so anyway i think going back to the question of like what we learned from transtech is

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let me just stop you right there though because that's really interesting and that to me i think is something different because you can bring these other tokens in which means you can do you can use that as a marketing tool to market like another token another project whatever and i think that's that's interesting that's definitely a different feature i haven't heard of before

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so this is the direction that we we wanna go so it's not just for the creators who do the ear drop it could be anyone anyone that that wants to collaborate with the creator let's say i wanna collaborate with gm forecaster you guys have a tribe and i have a token and then i'll just bring this token to you and i'll do the airdrop to to to your fans but i will give a bonus to the creator and i'll also give a bonus to people in the chat that are highly engaged and then if you want you can you as a creator can help me you know you can give me a boost in in a chat and then people you know people get a get a notification what you know after i i do the airdrop and then sort of our incentives are are then aligned right if i'm a fan of yours i i have even more incentive incentive to do to do the airdrop because i already have your token well i want to increase the the the value of my token so i would airdrop the fars v 2 to all of you for example so that's

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so so so i think that that that's a good way to do a lot of incentives and it's it's a good it's also you know a good way to to help creators monetize because today if you want to sort sort of sponsor a you know sponsor content you know of a creator you you most likely you just have direct directly pay you know cash i mean in in crypto but you know there's no other ways to to do it more organically and a lot of creators they don't like that because they don't wanna get paid to to post but if if you do it through through the airdrop the airdrop itself is permissionless right but then you can choose which tokens or i i should say which which products is that you like and then you can you can you can promote it with with with your fans you know more organically so then this this is some of the some of the things that that we're exploring but the the key idea is that you know we learn what not to do from fintech but then we still have to innovate you know do our own thing and to to create a different type of user experience

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i'm really thinking like somewhere down the road you know if you think about everything's gonna be tokenized and i've heard this discussed by a few quite a few people even like at a very high level i can't remember his name from i think it was from blackrock talking about that if you think about this from if you're a large brand or something say you're pepsi and you've tokenized you have your own token and that token can be redeemed for products or whatever in some world where all those that whole supply chain works or something there could be some really interesting brand deals done in that way as well like down the road so it's when i think about it like that there's there's some interesting opportunities i think we're thinking about it very narrowly and just airdrop of things like pumped up fund tokens or whatever but i think there's a broader potential there once more of the world comes on chain so interesting

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yeah absolutely yeah good way to distribute tokens and to you know to to to bring brand awareness to to to to to the fan base of creator

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for sure for sure adrienne what other questions do you have

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for bill just bill anything else that people should know

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yeah can they get is your is there a way to get into the beta or is it

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closed for now it is it is open so

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but they need to have a invite link so i can share some invite links you know with with you guys or i can post it on on my on my forecaster but

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either way forecaster because you haven't you haven't casted in a while bill

40:13Speaker 2

yes true

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so we need to get you back casting

40:17Speaker 2

yes yes it's true i i i think i think we so so so we are expanding our our user base very soon now this is alpha and we haven't actually talked about it publicly but we're going to have a sort of more permanent referral link for all all of our creators so if you invite as a creator if you invite someone else and then they join you'll get a 150 tokens of of this new creator for free and then you also get a share of their trading fees but they also get a discount when when once they trade tokens and then this referral link will be permanent and and you know anyone that that would get this link they can just click on it and then they can join but again if they join you get a 150 of their tokens for free this sort of aligns your incentive if their token goes to their wall you don't get anything but if this if somehow you help them become more prominent in community their token might go up you also benefit so this is one of this is one of the ways that we're going to open up access on it and and i'm literally in the middle of building this and then and then it is coming in the in the next few weeks definitely by the end end of this month so yeah and and then after that we'll we'll we'll hopefully we'll get more people to try to test the product and then we'll open up the product to to the public

41:52Speaker 0

great that's fantastic

41:54Speaker 1

okay and i have one more question bill and it's a i ask it's something i haven't wrapped my head around and i asked the really dumb question so if this is a dumb question forgive me but i'm trying to understand you said from a creator perspective like you can it can you can be on farcastr you can be on twitter wherever but if i sign like if i wanna if i wanna join as a creator am i do i have to create content like the content that i'm creating with my tribe is that on tribe.run or is it

42:25Speaker 2

it is

42:25Speaker 1

in a platform i'm already on okay so it's i have my audience on twitter but now this is a new platform that i'm saying come over here where you can bet on me this is where we'll have our chats where i'm gonna create new content

42:37Speaker 2

yeah so so so the the the reason is because if we put it on forecaster it's it's not private we can put some of the some of the public content on forecaster and we do plan to do that eventually

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so this is just where i'm having my kind of gated private con content for my tribe like in that model yeah yeah so i was like you should you should build a v a frame a v two frame then

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yeah or to do it i'm only waiting for this line of transaction support you know ah

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it'll get there okay because that's

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i've been following

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and i don't know if it's possible on twitter but it's like you know this is the whole like the you gotta convince people to leave somewhere they're already hanging out and go create somewhere else which you will get people to do it but i'm just think imagining like how much easier that'd be if it pops up in a frame and that's where i'm getting my my private chat with my favorite creator not have to leave it doesn't matter that it's doesn't matter what chain it's on this is

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yeah there's only one thing missing from this part the from from this whole equation which is we need to message dan and ask him to to put solana support for for frames and then what happens

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bill best way to do that is to cast yes come back to far cast and cast on far cast and then maybe you can get them to do that but but yeah we'll you know share what you're building and i think that will incentivize them to do so cause i think they do want to get more of the salon community active on barcaster so i think it's a great way to do it mhmm for sure

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yep actually that's and i think one of the things he does check is like how many people even have a connected wallet like that was the ability people don't even know you can connect a solana wallet doesn't necessarily mean doing that much with it but you at least step 1 is people should so if you have a solana wallet go to your settings go to your connected wallets attach it so now you're at least indicating and giving information that you're either active in solana or wanna be and i think yeah to to dan's point it's like he's gonna prioritize what people want and where there's activity

44:49Speaker 2

yeah

44:50Speaker 1

so we did that no no

44:51Speaker 2

no no this is my my my message to dan which is if you bring solana transaction support you're going to have a lot more activities not just from tribe but from all the social related products and so on and i'm a go to

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tri yeah

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alright so that's to dan which is here's an opportunity to start providing

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here's an opportunity here's an opportunity dan for

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additional qda everybody else which is it just i would say go go attach a while and if you haven't and and we had stoic and and vote for pedro on last month and and i after that that was like the catalyst for me to like oh i should i think i have a wallet so i did i have a solana wallet now i talked to my insta account yeah and congrats

45:36Speaker 0

so so i

45:36Speaker 1

thank you as well no problem changed person i should tell you

45:41Speaker 2

yeah i i connected the first day that that feature came out the first day that that we could connect our solana wallet i did that so i mean

45:51Speaker 1

yeah so sometimes

45:52Speaker 2

we're not building our solana

45:54Speaker 0

wow wow

45:55Speaker 1

yeah it's cool

45:56Speaker 0

so it was a foreshadowing amazing adrian or bill anything else before we wrap the show

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i just wanted to say one of my last thing which is yeah congratulations to both of you for growing this show over the past year and i still remember the the the first week that james farcaster came out and you know obviously a a a lot has changed but this is like this is so awesome

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congratulations though it's been a long road we made it over a year and a almost a year and a half now so yeah crazy coming up yeah it's been it's been a wild ride you've been a big part of that journey so thank you thank you and thank you for being here with us adrian anything else from you before we wrap

46:48Speaker 1

no but happy friday everyone and especially to our cast out tribes you earned the weekend yes let's just say that and

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they're not done yet bill it's it's they still have

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a couple

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hours to go don't

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they'll keep yoinking keep yoinking it's it's not called yet and yeah bill it's so good to see you again thanks

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for for coming on

47:09Speaker 2

you too

47:09Speaker 1

great to hang out

47:10Speaker 2

thank you so much

47:11Speaker 0

thank you and with that everybody we're gonna call it thanks so much bill for joining us today and thank you all for being here happy friday

47:24Speaker 0

i think he does and we'll be back for new at noon for the cast out show to sort of wrap up today's challenge the yoink challenge and find out the vote and then adrian and i will be back on monday morning and we'll have dish from clank the clanker team on and maybe proxy as well joining him maybe clanker as well i don't know if clanker's is dialing in oh

48:00Speaker 1

i was out last night with a bunch of like traditional wall street traders

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oh how'd that go

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it was so funny i was telling them about clanker and they had the best questions and like we were just saying like the best part of everything is the name

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oh by far by far like the branding is like the branding is just perfection i have to say like it really nailed it nailed it and that that's not easy to do

48:26Speaker 1

larry doesn't carry the tape the table conversation in the same way

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not the same but larry is also fantastic as well

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we love larry

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we love larry as well but i mean clanker is just that is that branding it's a thing of beauty it's a thing of beauty alright and we will see you monday have a lovely weekend everybody happy friday and bye bye

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