Transcript: GM Farcaster ep196 Wednesday December 18, 2024

NounishProf, adrienne · GM Farcaster

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gm farcaster it is wednesday december 18th and you are here with nowdashprop and adrianne for 29 minutes of farcaster news to start your day and it is our last live show of the year because we're taking a little break because i need a little break we need a little break

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because we we deserve it

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we deserve it

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as does everybody let's i'm so excited to shut down for the holidays i think we streamed last year over the holidays

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we did yeah we did not i don't think we stopped at all like barely yeah we took a small break but not much

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so but we've been kind of running up this whole year and i'm looking forward to going dark and doing a little bit of creative thinking

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yeah and just kinda get ready for season 3 i have a question for you we're at a 196 do we have to do 4 more for season 2 to be complete

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so does the season end at the calendar year or does it end after each 100th episode i think we have to do 4 more

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okay i knew you're gonna say that completionist i knew that if we left it at like 196 it might be like too much mhmm too much to get through we need those 4 okay alright so then all you

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crypto people love random numbers for things i am like give me neat numbers

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give me neat numbers have to alright alright fair enough so 4 more and then we start season 3 but before that let's jump in to all the things this was just cute on my timeline today one of the little copy pastas this one with a snowman holding different things quote cast but change what snowman is holding this was from yestercrypto quote casting mine something other than a decapitated y2c that was really funny and then mine was of course noggles and this started with me on brace with a little magic wand and yeah so go go quote cast and do your thing do your thing with the with the little copypasta it's cute

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few things from the merkel team before we dive into all things rewards because we will be getting to that

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this from v we've been working on improving our spam detection a big source of alpha has been taking algos used to rank content on the web and modifying them to work in in farcaster space arc sun and not a wizard i don't know might be a wizard collaborated to add page rank hyperlink induced topic search and louvain clustering i have no idea what that is do you you might know that

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i i don't know what louvain clustering is

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i have no idea what that is a quick primer on spam handling and warp cast i'm just gonna read a couple of these and then you can dig in further accounts are categorized roughly as definitely not spammy probably not spammy unknown maybe a little spammy definitely spammy 2 roughly 5% of the network is manually labeled by the team and this seed data is used to train an ml model 3 the model looks at a lot of signals and gives the user a score for example if you like things 24 hours a day you're likely not human that's seems accurate multiple bad signals like this move accounts closer to the definitely spammy label the model has gotten quite good and really misses in the cases where it does we manually override it and retrain it on misses periodically so it gets better and 5 the model also tries to reevaluate users periodically so as users get more active there is more data it can update its opinion so this is interesting i appreciate a little bit more transparency into the process of labeling things spam versus not and i did think yeah if you're if you're liking things 24 hours a day you're probably not human

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yeah or you're elon or you're elon because have you seen his you people laugh

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you could be playing cast out you wanna be that's

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right what

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say it again what is elon doing

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his what someone posted the elon graph of his his tweets and it's like like a heat map of what hours he's most active and it's literally 24 hours

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it's all over the place it's so funny he doesn't sleep

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like because normally you would see a cycle for normal human behavior

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yeah well you know there might be a reason he wants to go to space is all i'm saying you know maybe he's just trying to get back home it's possible

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we should we should help him so we should i think it's funny because there is a lot of like talking like you can't tell from any one individual cast like is this a spam is this bot but algos are really good at when you zoom out looking at patterns so yeah if you're liking nonstop 24 hours a day like a bot you're likely a bot

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or you're likely

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bot spam i mean this also goes back to bot not necessarily equating to spam and human not equating to the good i really enjoyed reading this cast because all very clear i appreciate the transparency i wake up every morning thanking the lord i'm not building a social network

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yeah

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because it's hard it's really hard

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it's hard

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i mean it's really hard easy to be you know armchair quarterback and tell these guys what to do but ultimately we just you just want it to work you just wanna open up your algo and find good content and you wanna be able to cast what you wanna cast and get and not be penalized by the algo

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right yep that too

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so i thought the way he described this makes sense leaning on machine learning but also having the you need to have the kind of the manual input and using the the humans to to to kind of seed and and tell the the i'll the i guess the algo what is considered spam and then the ability to iterate and correct is important too so

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right yeah to be able to actually retrain it to once you see that there's some kind of flaw in its methodology is pretty cool so yeah so i really appreciated this being able to understand it a little bit more i wish they had done it sooner honestly but thank you v for that insight this from dan we're dogfruiting v two frames at merkle and making them open source warp cast rewards we're gonna talk about that in a second notifications and leaderboard yoink notifications swap demo uniframe so different types of the frames that then someone else can take that basics and make it their own so very cool and this is the uniswap frame that they were talking about unauthorized uniswap fan edit replace a domain in any uniswap url with uniframe.org to show uniswap embeds as a v two frame and what it does is actually launch a swap frame so very cool i love this now i need this but for youtube as a player would be great so just you know

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working on it

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listening if anyone's listening adrian's on it adrian's on it never mind

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no i'm not i'm working on it with trying to find someone to build i'm not building a product i'm working on it trying to find so yeah if someone wants to help us build slide into our dms

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slide in this from dan this is the big news yesterday rewards w rewards warp cast rewards a new weekly game $7,000 reward pool top 5 scoring casters receive 200 usdc each our goal is to increase the reward pool each week the game rewards casters with the most engagement leaderboard and your score available via the rewards frame below you do not have to cast on warp cast to receive rewards that's awesome detailed fact in the next cast so here was the thing that i found confusing and i'm gonna scroll down to this because the way this is written makes it seem like there are 5 people getting $200 each and that's the whole reward system and i was like that seems first of all the math doesn't add up to 7,000 so i was confused there like that was the first i'm like this math isn't adding this math isn't mathing what is going on and then as i read down it's the top 5 are getting 200 each week next 20 get 50 next 75 get $20 each next 100 get 15 and the next 200 get 10 so a little different approach but still a pretty wide swath of folks who will be rewarded so that made me feel a little better

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yeah 400 people yeah a week will get some reward

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he said

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why not 420 i'm just kidding just joking

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i would actually i told you i like my nice round numbers but to me 420 is a nice round number so

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he did say that looking at the stats of v one rewards it was about 400 unique people a week so it's not necessarily so

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it's kinda

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dramatically it's about the same but

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about the same

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but he increased the pot and talked about maybe increasing it

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increasing it a little bit more

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so this is funny last time i checked i was at 49 now i'm at 91 people are getting very

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into their engagement here oh yeah your lighting is a little weird that's funny why is adrian so shiny it's she just is she's a happy shiny person

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it's the sun

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yeah i

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it's like an it's a weird yeah

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you got a weird angle filter woah that's interesting that's very interesting okay anyway so the leaderboard i'm now ranked 91 i was like 49 last night and before that i was like i don't know what my rank is because it wasn't showing it was just showing my score was like less than a 1,000 and i'm like first of all i don't know what that means and second of all how is that possible so i was having one of those moments of like you know my worth my worth my worth don't do it i'm just kidding

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obviously i also okay tell me when we're ready and i'll

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go ahead i will i will give you the queue but here's how it's stacking up now but it's changed quite a bit because when this launched vitalik was at the top of the leaderboard and he is no longer ted has has returned to the end but bottom line bottom line adrianne hit it

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okay new leaderboard dropped everyone's so excited because yay we're getting paid and then immediately you have an ability to check your worth to see how you stack up with a hard fact number that tells you whether you're a good caster or not so everybody does it i immediately checked i was also had less than a 1,000 like you're not even worthy enough to get a number

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she's on the leaderboard no yeah yeah it was bad at first

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it's just like yeah you don't even rank so i cast it immediately for myself as well i am also needing to know just that reminder is there's a million ways to rank yourself and the warp cast reward score is not one that should change how you feel about yourself

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because it is not your worth

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you it is not your self worth your worth comes from many other things like how kind you are to your friends and your family and are you contributing to society and many many other things so you are all good enough smart enough people like you and it does not matter what your warpcast score is

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there we go alright so now that we've gotten that out of the way

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and this is yeah from you're all number

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1 to

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me and i wanna underscore that i agree i wanna say that right back out if you're listening you are all number 1 to me as well

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true very true like literally we mean that you're our favorite people because you're watching and listening to us right now

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and you make us laugh

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and you make us laugh and moving on this also from dan from dwr won't it just be all big accounts that win 1 we adjust for number of active followers so big accounts get normalized a bit they shared that with the 1st rewards program that it was adjusted based on your follower count so that there is an opportunity for smaller accounts to be rewarded and they are and they have been so we know that it works we had a similar algo running every day since august with the daily $5 usdc rewards accounts like afrochicks started with a few followers at the start of the daily rewards and now have a sizable active audience here's a permissionlessly built dune dashboard from sloke and you'll see plenty of smaller accounts on the list so there you go so lots of opportunity it doesn't matter how many followers you have right now you can also be at the top of that leaderboard and i did notice that when i just looked at the leaderboard it was a yeah i'll get back to that it was a mix it definitely is a mix of some that i know some that i don't

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some larger some smaller so yes ted is at the top but you've also got darko dot eth you've got coda android 16 hanging in there at the top oxa in july jan furlough so there's a good mix there are a lot of people crystal spaceship a lot of people that we do know but a lot quite a few that we don't and me and jace

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who's that fox in there

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that fox is in there

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get it

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she's in there somewhere

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sneaking in in the top 25 this morning i gotta say good

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for you

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yeah but it doesn't change how i feel about myself at all

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maybe a little maybe just a little but yeah i i do not expect i expect adrian to be like at least dub you know i i expect myself to be double what ever ever adrian's score is so i'm i'm right where i should be right now i think so it's all good okay moving on let the engagement farming begin desperate times call for desperate measures please don't tell my boss this from beyond base who is hanging in there like she's she's right up there wait does this mean it's time to post all the thirst traps we've been hiding that was from ted and hence thirst trap from emmy

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we say of course she has a gif that

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of course

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is an emmy thirst trap what

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an emmy thirst trap yeah like this is a little

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cute mascot with a little smack ass what

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i know i know what is going on

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i felt really weird looking at that i get it

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yeah it's really funny so what's the best multi token merkle distributor contract these days asking for a friend because this was in response to we would be open to any farcaster token that wants to piggyback on the leaderboard just send me a dc and we can see if we can figure something out and that's when when horseback is like we we we can figure it out or or or me dan dan you coding today or okay okay yeah so funny

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this is so cool and dan's was in response to someone else also volunteering and then people saying like hey can you make it a what if like make it a public address imagine if people could contribute funds give everybody's leftover tips like what if the community could sweeten that pot every week and that would be very interesting in a

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very interesting

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like yeah like 7,000 usdc is a lot but yeah it's not

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yeah

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it's not enough to go too mimetic but imagine if you could like turn that into much higher rewards how people would just go crazy

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this was yeah this was in response to benaman nice replace a little bit of free money with a lot of free money like it would have been smart too to include a general tipping account for those of us with daily degen tips to throw this into a general fund to sweeten the pot so that's even a little different it's not the actual funds but like a tipping a way to tip as well yeah so that's interesting so we'll see we'll see what comes next but it seems like that will get some additional additional play all of fc trying to come up with bangers right now this from android 16 true true true

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i wanted to make that my background but i'm only promoting cast out for this weekend

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2 more days

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i couldn't this is a permanent background but android 16 this would have been my this is a second place background

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it's it's quite good and and euler or euler lagrange noting android 16 and upcoming farcons unspecting farcaster android 6 android 16 i was top of the leaderboard for the ogfc rewards so funny so very funny and that was in response for andrew's android 16's for being farcaster's top banger so that was that's pretty funny so he was ended up at the top of the chart on the v one of this so this was the the hardest leaderboard i have ever competed on that was from woje android 16 6 kekkers woje zinger ted july light samantha averchicks downshift ioan furlough phil darko and alina ferry coming in at 15 so pretty pretty amazing and congrats android 16 but now the game starts anew so buckle up buddy but well done well done this from d o dad if you want your frame to show up on the warpcast explore tab create a frame that has a verified author and users can add 2 make sure your icon and splash image as well as the overall design look good and and 3 dcdwr.e throw the link to a cast that can open the frame he'll use it and give you some feedback or add it and you can add to your little explore tab yourself when you open up a frame you'll see a little plus sign and you can add it and it will be there as like a little shortcut so and i just did that i was just adding a couple more things i just added the wikipedia one which i did not grab that cast but did you see wikipedia in a frame there's a wikipedia frame there's a wikipedia frame it's pretty cool and i did not pull that one but it's very cool new experiment on war cast featured frames this was what we were just talking about our goal is to showcase high quality frames to everyone using warpcast everyone can discover frames developers can get discovered it's manually curated for now you can toggle off into taps gear icon featured frames so there you go very cool love new ways of discovery if you're planning to release an nft in the next few weeks please reach out dwr in the next couple of weeks we're not but literally every other week we do so whatever you need we got you 3 times a week at least at least we're dropping nfts

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what is he working on what

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should you need i don't know that's an excellent question what is he working on do we know

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and what does that mean release an nft is he talking about like what is this 2021 what are we time traveling what is it who's releasing an nft

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i don't know i know i made it sound like this big production where we don't really do that anymore we just do we just release nfts every day

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nfts just are

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they just are every day we're releasing nfts yeah literally so i think like just let us know what you need there buddy but yeah i'm assuming it's for a new minting frame is what my guess would be and probably i don't know but

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okay did you reach out to cw

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i did not i should have i forgot i didn't even think of it i just thought of it as i was reading this but we really yeah i should i should drop at least a note on there and i will do that and jan furl furla what's your release in is what i wanna know so he did release something yesterday and i forgot to pull that one too with rainbow and it was very cool but i'm sure he has more coming

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oh there's kristen kristen did the yes swipe away

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yes

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pods alright

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so we need to drop ours as well yeah and that's something we might you might see us next year one of the things where we've talked about is shifting over to pods so that will likely happen after the new year because we've been waiting for them to add video they've added a way to link the video from youtube and that seems good enough so

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alright

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we'll be on that we'll be on that soon

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we gotta do that we gotta do stream like the list of things to do

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so many things

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i'm with this i like i like the holiday because then it's a reset and then you just can like

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dive in i need to get there's so many things i i thought i was gonna get done like i'm really mad that our our shop's not up it's up but it's not up it's not released to everybody like all these little things i haven't done our expenses for the year like all these things like that's what i'm doing over the holiday like i know you think i'm just vacationing i'm really really not really really really not this from kyle patrick farcaster just passed 900,000 fid registrations will we hit 1,000,000 before 2024 ends no no we will not we are also early i wonder who will be that millionth though that'll be that'll be interesting to see

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and how many is there like 150,000 is there a 200,000 that don't really count

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oh yeah right that weird block of of when someone that was

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someone spun up fids without purchasing storage

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that's what it was i'm like whatever that thing is that happened that's what it was

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yeah and that was like after permissionless when anyone could you know just call a contract you just call a line of code spin up an fid but you didn't have to purchase storage which means people could just create fids and not attach storage to it and then they changed it to work hard you to purchase storage that stops so there's like this chunk of fids like the counter advanced but they're not real accounts

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they're not real they're just lost to the ether

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yes

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so they don't really count that's right forgot about that so we've got yeah so another 100,000 and we'll be at a million and this from the base team i loved this from this was from wb benz but it was casting statuettes desk at in their little gather town which i just thought was adorable so statuette's a little decorated for christmas office space in the metaverse here and she has a little base sign and it's just adorable so just wanted to show that because i thought it was so cute i love that they had a little christmas party and they were dancing too with their little hats on it was very cute this from jesse 2024 was big proud to be building with all of you and showing that base is the biggest ethereum l2 by far and then also 1,000,000 eth bridge to base so that is pretty amazing 1000000 eth bridge to base and it's still day 1 so incredible year for base can't even imagine what next year is gonna look like and this also from kyle patrick farcaster 2024 in no particular order i love this list dgen tannen tianen 100x layer threes the ticker is ticker moneygun ham cannon by the way do you remember ticker dollar sign ticker that was like a total scam and then anyway that was really funny moneygun hamcannon farcon frames farther masks moxie interk mfers interesting content higher rare tips clanker hypersub yoink alpha friends paid group we are so early on chain gaia's rounds yellow collective purple 150,000,000 raised ethernet farcastles build dracula poster streaks farcaster clients zuora base optimism arbitrum gm farcaster 39 really anyway ambassadors enjoy

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in no particular order he said there's no particular order

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of course your place

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your place on this list is not your worth

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it's not your worth or your lack of your place on this list wildcard jam mochi cam farquest super far house hunt town and so many more lores not mentioned if you have more stories feel free to comment them below okay banger i'll throw that one on there los fomos on there who else many such cases was this year early late night crew early morning crew i'll just i'm just grabbing all the media and i'd say pods.media too having a good year so but this is great thank you for including us i was just kidding i appreciate us that we that we made the list and this was a really fun list so great list oh yeah and then jc said there's no women on farcaster so that was a moment lenses for girls is was technically the moment but yeah so a lot of lot of fun things for this past year and that was a great list too summarized it anything else that you would add to this that we might that you might have missed

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no and i'm having a really hard time getting into the like let's reflect on 2024 yet and i think it's maybe ask me next week there's still so many things i'm trying to get done this week before i can say enjoy the holidays like actually and i appreciate people getting into the year end review and all the unwraps and or wrapped or whatever yeah and i just per i'm personally not ready

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i feel very much the same very much the same this this list helped me get a little bit towards there but i'm really not there yet either

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i had a little panic attack that i'm running out of time and then i real

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yeah

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so next week yeah yeah

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yeah yesterday i was like at cvs buying cards for my niece and nephew realizing i'm getting on a plane on on friday and i'm like oh crap i need like things and and i'm like i really don't have time to think about this and yeah i feel all of that

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the calendar this year whatever it is it's like it was like the late thanksgiving into early i know it's like like early christmas week longer vacation than normal like the kid the kid schools are closed for longer it's just it's a weird it's a compressed schedule and it's i'm not happy

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with that we're just not ready we're just not there i haven't i have not put up have not put up my tree not sure i'm going to i didn't end up doing it last year i'm debating haven't put up one decoration in my house that's unusual

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no go decorate

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i will at some point but also maybe away so i'm like can we

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just do a little feelings yeah quick

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little feelings check-in so we about the year

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built a little we've built a little business around farcaster and i effing love it it's i do too been amazing and we remind you it's permissionlessly so we never asked merkel or anyone to be like hey can we just start podcasting and we just did and it's been a year and a few months and a 190 some episodes and

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i 196 yeah

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massively i i love i really do love the entire merkle team shout out and they make it really fun to talk about them because they're shipping all the time like the the too much the focus and kind of like relentless speed is something to be impressed about what i'm noticing is i'm getting caught up in the merkel

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cyclone of like so it's like cyclone cyclone

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it's a merkel cyclone i don't

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know what the right term is but so v2 frames listen there is urgency to make farcaster period just make farcaster a thing and get so dan had reached out i was like hey you guys you know like when are you gonna do the v two frame for far gm farcaster ted brought it up like we i i absolutely wanna frame right i've been a little bit trying to learn how to be a developer again in my life and having a lot of fun so all of a sudden i feel like i'm like yeah i could just spin up a frame anyway and i had to remind myself that i don't need to get caught up in that cyclone i like i don't need to stop everything i'm doing and build that frame because now

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is the feeling very much the same thing yeah i was feeling the same thing

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i mean in some ways like this is the moment if i built the frame and get it to dan he's probably putting it on the explore page great does that actually change anything for like for us do i have to drop everything because of someone else's schedule and it was like a reminder to me to like i am in control of my own destiny i can control when and what we work on and yes we're going to do it yes we can build it but it doesn't necessarily need to be on dan's schedule

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yeah i oh i felt the same thing because dan jumped into my dms a couple of days ago and i was sending a message to to adrianne like i don't have time for this i don't have time for this like i can't we can't make a frame right now we can't we have too many things happening

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well a little bit of like and then and then what would the frame do

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same thing and it was like what would the frame do yeah

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i mean like going back to like launch a token what would the token do it's like okay but is that really the best thing that we should be doing right now for us and all these other things and i've really been focused on my bot

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it's really freaking hard

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oh my god all you ai people it's really hard to make and i do was like i wanna stay like do i leave focus on the like do i leave the bot as a shitty bot and go build a frame or do i you know anyway but

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it's also shitty frame because we haven't thought about it and we're just trying to rush it

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so that's the other thing also end up here like i actually like to enjoy i i wanna enjoy my holidays and i wanna take time to unwind and reflect and kind of step away and i needed a moment

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to like just say like it's okay it's okay so i'm just sharing this because if anyone else out there is also struggling with the same like it's a little bit of fomo like oh my god must do something now to like i just don't believe there's ever something external that it's like yeah you i don't know i don't i just don't wanna feel the you

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know what's funny is that we both felt the same way without really talking about it like we didn't really have this conversation but we both were feeling the same thing of like this feels like pressure all those same thoughts but also knowing we did not have time and i kept i kept pointing people to your bot i like my reply back to dan was have you seen adrian's bot

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yeah but i don't even and then

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i said the same thing to dad i'm like but have you seen adrian's bot like we don't have time right now we're we're she's busy making a pot and i'm busy like running a whole like game

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yeah and right do we talk about and then i guess it goes to like what is it like what moves the needle like so we have a we do a media business okay you know and we wanna be on chain okay so we wanna do like an on chain first so there's all these things we wanna experiment with yeah but we're not a tech company

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no we're not we're not

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a software first company although i started thinking like my i wanna lean into that right it's like okay if we wanna be what does it mean to be an on chain what it like let's really lean into it so

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i feel like maybe 2025 is the year we start

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we actually figure out what the goal we are yeah

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well no but just really start building out some of that like get actually get a bot that you can talk to and and interact with old content of ours that'd be cool like we have a

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we have an insane amount of it's huge it's a huge amount of content and and we knew as we were building it we kept saying like this is the the benefit that people don't even realize exist is this time capsule of everything that's happened on farcaster since september of 2023 and that is great and it's this great treasure trove but like with any archive the access to it is what's valuable so figuring out and that to me is what the bot is because we've talked about this forever of like we have this video archive of everything but how do we let people search it you know all those things and it's not easy so this is the attempt to do that yeah

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yeah so we'll get there

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yeah for sure for sure but it's i was feeling that same thing when i saw ted's message i was like oh god here we go again and it's like you know when dan and ted are saying this to you you know it it gets a little bit of attention and it gets in your head

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yeah these are like top

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of the leaderboard drop and do this right now you know and it's like

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these are top of leaderboard now

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yeah these are top of leaderboard dan's not even on the leaderboard

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i think he excluded him i think he

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i assume that it's excluded himself

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is excluded

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yeah i'm sure wait does horseback

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still deploy i hope he

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gets to play

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i don't think so no i don't know if

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i saw him but he should be on the even if he doesn't get paid he should be on the leaderboard just for the glory he's gotta be up there somewhere yeah so i do i 100% agree with all that like i i definitely we what we really want is a really good frame that captures all the media that's on farcaster that notifies you when we're live like that does really cool things not just that is very static like a website like that to me doesn't move the needle but if it has other integrations then it's gonna make a lot of sense so we'll see oh tori you'll be on there i've seen you i've seen you put your mind to things but don't worry about it yeah i'm so sorry okay

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you're not on the leaderboard

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it's okay we've said that yeah you're it's still it's still not yours alright speaking of leaderboards back to this so anything else that you think was missing from here

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no but what are other oh obviously the gm forecaster bot

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which made

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a huge bullish obviously

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obviously alright well we'll meet we may have some more on our we will be back on the 1st january and maybe we'll have a little bit more reflection then when we've had some time away couple more things and then we're gonna wrap this from dish who was on with us on monday tap into prebuys early this is from young weekend okay hardly nowhere now has pre buy support this is for clinker each token launches at roughly 10 eth market cap i think deposit eth and then use the same secret word when you are deploying to pre buy that amount if you do this it's probably going to be a lot less anon of a launch so that was your warning obviously but very cool and very useful that would have been incredibly useful when i was trying to snap up all the cast out tokens and i could not so very cool this is interesting i am not gonna read this whole thing but this is introducing the infinite game it begins at blah blah blah blah blah unix time on base happy playing someone else casted later anonymously that it was vitalik who launched infinite game i don't know that if that's true or not or just wishful thinking or probably not but also it feels like something he could do and might do especially with the back we have a unix we have a unix time on base here like i that's weird so it's very maybe it's i don't know what's your thoughts on this

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i just think that if a game is being casted anonymously and then another anonymous person points to vitalik that sounds like no

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that's wishful thinking yeah

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yeah but it's like okay we haven't ruled out that it's impossible but it's yeah you know it's just the that rhymes with a lot of like the why conspiracies fly so fast and why lies so fast lies lies fly so fast

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so fast yeah

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oh tongue twister lies fly so fast on social media so i think we should not be promoting it that story i think gmr casper should be a we should be known for 2 feet on the ground and not conspiratorial and partially i'm

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not she wouldn't let me talk about drones the other day this is why

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yes and i'm a little sensitive because my entire twitter algorithm is so effed right now and i i know like i'm into a conspiracy theory like it just my entire it's just like ew i i just

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yeah i know i get it i get it so not a conspiracy theory but also we don't know who launched it it's pretty cool it's a cool game i don't fully understand how to play but go check it out if you want to jump in

40:58Speaker 1

okay people want the conspiracy okay people want the drone talking about it i know it i just can you find can you do it without me

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yeah i understand

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well hold on this is separate the drone is something separate

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that's separate

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in this but i guess what i feel about i didn't even see someone say this was vitalik doing

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it they did

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but we are in a space where privacy is a is a virtue and a value that we hold dearly we believe in privacy we think it's a right so when someone uses a noncast just let it like why can't we just

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let it be

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how do you do rumor everything why do you do that don't ruin it just let it be a

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that's so funny

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think it in your head oh this might be vidal like don't cast it okay rant over i'm sorry

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oh that's funny i so when i first saw it i actually thought it was wiz from nouns and and i'm in a chat with him and he he was the one who pointed out the game and i was like this looks like a wiz game also he's like no it wasn't me i'm like alright i don't know about that but okay because i mean there's a dao involved and like it felt very noun ish but it also could be it could be anybody but it's anyways interesting go check it out if you wanna play i don't know if it's still going i assume it is but until somebody's able to capture essentially capture all the all the funds so interesting this from chic bangs here it is since it was recorded live on air it's fcc compliant aka family friendly it is a club u christmas so it's a holiday hip hop theme mix from her time on trad radio so very cool go check it out for something a little different this from kojo and this will help me like premiere what we're doing later today cast out generated the 12th largest ponder poll of all time and this was the one that was inspired by adrianne's trivia question of what is the official color of farcaster purple being of course the one but also this ended up being the 12th largest poll of all time and it was done for cast out which i just think is hilarious so later today we're doing we'll have our final tribes figured out at 11 am a scavenger hunt is going to kick off for the final two tribes the first tribe that finds it is gonna be our winning tribe and then there will be a game tomorrow that will launch for that tribe those individual tribe members and we'll have a final winner sometime tomorrow so we'll be back at noon today and tomorrow and then then we're going on break for the rest of the year couple more things what base token do you think binance is talking about could it be dejen i thought dejen was already on binance but maybe not the countdown to binance alpha has begun get ready for a new batch of tokens by preparing your assets on the corresponding chains 3 on bnb chain 1 on solana and 1 on base so we'll see what those are today

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i thought deejem was already on binance but maybe i'm wrong

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i thought it was like a pre something like there was something i don't know

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someone i don't know i don't know but we'll find out but i'm curious just about the one on base just wondering what that one is going to be if it's something new or if it's whoops just the usual this was funny thanks for reaching out do you mind if i share this email on social media to gauge the reaction from our community from bending spoons so

44:57Speaker 0

i have no idea exactly what this is you pulled this one so you tell me what is happening here

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it's just like sometimes you'll read something on forecaster like and it just makes you so happy i don't know it just brought joy okay so this is a a cold outreach email to capano who's building obsidian okay i'm i don't use obsidian obsidian is i think it's a note taking app people on forecast are freaking love it so therefore i automatically i know it's amazing because i trust everyone on like i know it's very unique so it's a cold outreach from someone with an offer to potentially like hey maybe we wanna acquire obsidian are you interested you know with a little note that says like obsidian listens to its users you have a tight knit vibrant community like all these great things about obsidian we love this and it's like hey like if you're at all potentially interested

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yeah

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do you wanna reach out like an offer cool and what capano does is he says okay cool mind if i post this on social media so he screenshots it and then you read the replies have you heard of bending spoon

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no i have no idea what this is

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okay you can learn what bending spoon spoon is in the comments apparently they're a pe firm that purchases brands and then destroys them

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got it they're pe firms that bought every note and are squeezing everything they can out of it yeah

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yes and okay and some that's funny some other ones too oh by the way it looks like they bought streamyard

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they have very strong feelings okay they bought streamyard oh

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yeah i didn't know that

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don't ruin us

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kind of like all of a sudden you know it's like the so people are being very fun it's just the the comments are being very funny it's like tell them your community says that you send them the

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thanks for the 20 bandos that kid that's funny alright thank you for that explanation because i did not know what was going on here and i think it came down to the fact that i had no idea what bending spoon was if i knew that part of it this would've made a lot more sense i would

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so playful yeah

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got it funny

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related i don't think we pulled it but there were some good there was a great post on twitter or x from the midjourney founder talking about why he's not accepted yes vc money

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yes

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and the quote was vcs want you to either run the world or die in a house fire or die like that it's like only 2 outcomes it's like you either need to do this or that and midjourney is like well what if we just make this incredible product that people really really love what if we have revenue and what if we're sustainable and what if like we what if that vc is like no we don't we don't want that so

47:53Speaker 0

and they're and also yeah they just wanna keep it like they're like we have enough i saw that tweet it was all like we have enough money to deliver what we wanna deliver to our customers we we've shipped 30 new features based on their requests this year like all this stuff they're like we we like our business the way it is we don't need it to be to scale up we like where it's at and you'll ruin it for us so we don't wanna do that and it's

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and pluto of mines good casted something it was an article about kind of founders over 40 and different similarities and people like it seemed like a trend of why do founders over 40 tend to bootstrap more than accept vc money and i had shared some thoughts as well about how

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vcs really they they're looking for binary outcome so when they're investing in companies they they need that you're gonna change the world like you're gonna run the world and they only need one of those in their portfolio or 2 or 3 whatever depending how big big it is right so when they're looking at founders it's like the only thing they care about is upside they don't care about that they're gonna write everything else off to 0 and they're gonna look for the 1 or 2 companies that are gonna carry their fund

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right

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great okay if you are a founder though like that's not necessarily what you want no right it's like you want your business to be successful i think as a you know sure so

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it really comes down to if you don't need those funds it's probably not a good idea to take them because it's probably not going to enhance what you're doing like if you absolutely need the funding to do the thing that you want to do to deliver what you want to deliver that's a different story but if you don't and mid journey was like clearly we don't we don't need to do to do what we're doing we're doing just fine the way things are it's gonna be a better experience because you're also not giving away equity you're not having this pressure hanging over your head of delivering for these vcs who are who may or may not even know what your business is like for the lps the ones who are you know providing liquidity they they probably don't even care they just want you to make the money so it's a very different yeah

50:11Speaker 1

yeah and like anything like there's yeah yeah it's like it all depends everything depends it all depends individual or individualized but interesting conversations so i just pull that as is that the last cast of the year we're pulling

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that's the second to last there's there's one more

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there's just there's good there's interesting content on farcaster

50:29Speaker 0

yeah there's one one more one more so i've got one one more for you that i have to share in a separate tab so i have to reset it but this one my first question to you is have you watched the bitfinex heist

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documentary on netflix yet

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no

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it just came out like a week ago okay so if you have if you have watched it this is gonna be funny if you haven't you may not know who this is but i feel the need that we really should share this because it was absolutely hilarious so let me make sure i've got oops

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always funny obviously i watched this video but

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yeah but you do you know who this is yeah i'm trying to get the audio up

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and i saw it was a cameo so i figured someone knew who she was

51:26Speaker 2

yeah here we go it's razzlecon and for sure i can tell razzle hey razzle it's razzlecon and for sure i can tell you are part of like crypto web 3 razzle fan because of your request i guess you apparently don't like farcaster and you want me to drop some bars that you wrote about farcaster which i'm about to do okay yo farcaster's a mess like a christian rap scene eating green mole it's like licking a latrine their post screen linkedin all polished and fake purple's their color because they're the gin on the make chasing high highs up in the sky in farcaster land where the corny never died what razzle dazzle hope you like that little i wouldn't say it's my freestyle but that little spitting of verses that i did for you i'm gonna have to look into forecaster i actually don't know much about them i'm curious why you don't like them but you know what i'll take your word for it i hope you have a wonderful new year and don't forget to razzle dazzle

52:45Speaker 0

hilarious hilarious hilarious so i don't know who did that who ordered the cameo but oh my god that's just so funny so this is the one of the 2 people who stole 1,000,000,000 with a b from bitfinex who is now on house arrest and she's doing cameos on house arrest because that's how she's making money because their billions were seized and yeah hilarious so can you imagine if all of a sudden razzlekhan is on farcaster is is winning rewards on farcaster how freaking funny would that be so that might be what you're you're getting ready for for 2025 would be so funny do we want to honestly no we do not

53:43Speaker 1

should we just call it we should we go out on top

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that might be it but honestly that was absolutely hilarious and if you haven't watched the documentary go watch it and then watch that video again and you will appreciate it all that much more of how hilarious that is when you really understand what's happening so funny so so funny so and that is it that's it

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i felt a little attacked

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also i felt a little attacked but also i

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was too funny personally

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it was way too funny to to feel too too too bad about it because it was hilarious

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the only thing we also didn't pull is

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and by we i didn't pull it either but elon telling people not to use hashtags on twitter yesterday

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on facts yes

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and it was getting like hey guys please don't like hashtags are cringe yeah and don't do them we don't need them and it's cringey and you're linkedin and stop yeah it's a you're done it's giving desperate it's like you're being desperate if you're

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yeah

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and i just i did wanna give dan some flowers for being early on the no being early hashtags on farce farcaster

54:57Speaker 0

yeah yeah so funny oh yeah they didn't mention toastmasters list or of key oh you got that

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not on the list

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oh it was on the list

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is i think kiwiskins 2023

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yes kiwiskins no i think maybe she meant the wrap

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oh right but while we're

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at you're right we

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need to add that on the yes toe spacers on

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toe spacers needs to go on this list yes yep absolutely no it's not on there i just checked so no toe spacers we definitely need need that on there right for 20 twenty four's list yes hilarious and cookies girl scout cookies

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yes girls got cookies weren't

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on the list frames

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like it was the frames hackathon

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it was on there it was on there i think it was on there it was on there yeah it's like number 7 which is funny gm laptop

55:52Speaker 1

yeah we're we're just about to say goodbye

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yeah we're ready to say goodbye but gm alright and with that we are gonna call it anything else adrienne for 2024 gm forecaster we will be back with cast out at noon today tomorrow and then that'll be it for the year for live we are gonna be replaying some of our interviews our recent interviews will be replayed on our usual days but we won't be live you might see us hiding in the in the chat but yeah okay that's it

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well no just we'll end with like a massive thank you to everyone for a great 2020

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4 yes

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i told you earlier i'm not ready to reflect yet but nope if this is the last time we're saying like what a great year and correct really shout out to everyone who's ever minted an episode did our hyper sub said hello in the chat had fun with our zoom farcaster came to our eatdenver meetups hung out at far con did our little like url parties and it's we yeah we love you

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we love you and we love you all we thank you for your support

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i'm not good at emotion if you know me but

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we're not we're not real good at the feelings check-in part of this part of this show yeah so it's been amazing what a crazy year and we'll reflect more on january 1st when we've had time to like breathe but for now we'll see you at noon today and yeah for those who are still playing cast out 11 am your next challenge so got a little bit of time

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and yeah and if you're listening i wanna do me a favor if you guys wanna play with the gm forecaster bot and i'm i i wanna see how it's doing i made some changes this week so it's the username is gmfc 101

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i gave it access to a lot more of our content and it made it dumber

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and i want i know it

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like when it only had access to a few of our videos it was so good in the beginning and now it's really dumb but i don't know what to ask it to test so i'd love for anyone who wants to play with it tag it in a cast and ask it a question about farcaster i'm curious to see how much it hallucinates and which types of questions it's getting right and whatnot

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so anyone who wants to do it i today and play with it that would be a huge help to us and aside from that thanks fred

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and with that we're gonna call it thank you all have an amazing holiday we'll we will see you on the cast out but if you're not joining us for that have an amazing holiday and we will see you on january 1st and with that everybody bye bye