gmfarcaster we were just chatting away ourselves and i'm like oh to go live it is wednesday december 6th and you are here with adrienne and nannish praff for 21 minutes of farcaster news to start your day how are you doing today adrienne hey i'm doing good how are you i was traveling the last
2 days i got home late last night so a little sleepy this morning but i've
got my my coffee which you can't see in
the video probably because of ai but
if you'll notice i'm working from a gm farcaster mug look out for the first time as well so soon soon soon available soon that's amazing and we're we're kinda sporting some birds today so i've got a little background about lil basil which i'll talk about in a sec and you've got a fun one that let's start with that so this is a fun little thing and we'll we'll move over to the nature channel which i don't think we've ever looked at the nature channel before i mean pulled it up for the show so the 2023 the pictures of the year from national geographic and maurice posted this one and then jack you know made a little meme about it when everyone is replying with low effort this is how you feel so adrian's like you know no left no low effort replies no low effort replies here and then i'm sporting my lil basil graphic here by nownish artist meshup so for those who are in the nouns community you'll be familiar with meshup incredible artist and he did this graphic for lil basil which is gonna be tomorrow with lil nouns nouns builder purple there'll be folks from purple there so i'm excited about that jesse pollock's gonna be there doing a little lightning talk kinda took that inspiration from far con ivy is gonna join ivy our our past guest host is gonna be be there i'm really excited so lots of fun things happening so little nouns builderdao cryptodes and pizzadao so that's what is represented there in prophouse so really excited can't wait to see everybody i'm really excited like it's always so fun to get to see my internet friends irl and there's a lot that i'm gonna meet for the first time just super super super fun so this is what i'm that's awesome looking forward to
and our you know our basil is not a it's not a crypto conference so it's so cool to see the overlap of artists and you guys are gonna have a blast and we will be jealous and
we'll see jealous it's funny because it's not crypto but it's been been so for like 3 years this is probably the 3rd year that the nft part side of crypto has sort of taken over basil and it's it's gonna be a blast i'm really really looking forward to it lots of fun things happening and i'm hoping including boys club we were just talking about boys club they're having an event i'm hoping to get in i don't think my i don't think i've been approved yet so so hey if you're listening
boys club could you just check me off on that loop on forecaster you're on forecaster where are you at get our props get our girl in
can you get me in there thanks appreciate that alright moving on vroom weekly warp rewards are out for top casters inviters and hub runners a a small tweak to the invite algo this week one point for inactive users 1 10 or 50 points for active users based on their tier user tiers based on engagement per post balanced against mutes hides and reports with some manual review so some people did see a little decrease in their invites including johnny mac nonlinear thanks for that your invite rank this week moved down to 108 just be a little meme out of that one and my invite rank did go down as well i think i was like 40 the 1st week they did that and now i'm at like 97 what happened so that's what happened so there you go now you know
i have an embarrassingly low invite rank
i'm it's well i haven't invited in a while but but the thing is they're giving you points based on your the activity of those who you invited so if you even if you invited just a few people but they're you know they were bangers they're they're putting out bangers then you're doing pretty well so it's that which is kind of interesting right it kind of an interesting thing but right now it's like i'm trying to figure out why would we invite more so i'm looking for that incentive to do invites versus just let them you know move to permissionless so but now you have it
you have it but now
you have it incentive
invite people get them active get warps and mint from your feet
and then mint from your feet i also wanted to show off my this is my my koozie for the event as well so there we go right yeah all the fun things got all the swag going yeah so so yeah inviting i'm gonna maybe do some inviting over over lil basil we'll get everybody on orbcast moving on varun had a ama the other day kind of an unplanned last minute and one of the questions was any plan to vampire attack x and varun's answer was vampire attacks draw mercenaries for a financial protocol it's fine i don't care who the person is as long as their money is good for a social protocol it could actually make the social network significantly worse there might be a more subtle way to do this but i haven't figured it out yet so we were talking about you know what is a vampire attack and a vampire attack at least in crypto is when you're you're essentially trying to drain the users from one platform and move them over to another so in i think for me like in my mind the easiest way for me to think about this is blur and opensea was a great example of this so blur created this tokenized incentive that all your bids all your activity was gonna get these this blur token rewards in an airdrop and that was enough incentive to really pull a tremendous amount away from opensea so and that it really changed the whole landscape of in my mind in my opinion the whole landscape of the nft space so that would be a really great example of vampire attack i don't think it would be a good thing for farcaster do you have any thoughts on that i i don't think it makes sense but what do you think
yeah i also agree i had to i i wasn't even that familiar with the term vampire attack so i had to do a little research first to see what he was even talking about in my in my professional dev ops world where we i we we do a lot of reading writing talking about the effective culture on high performing tech organizations there's a there's a consistent theme of missionaries over mercenaries of when you're building kind of social structures trying to find people who are motivated intrinsically motivated for a cause or for or as opposed to for money the mercenaries and so i think he's sitting on that and i and i agree i mean who's here for farcaster and it's it's it's not because we're waiting for the tokens
right and we know and that was sort of the fear when it went permissionless is that we were gonna see a lot of that low low low effort right low effort replies low effort casting for airdrop farming like for people thinking there's an airdrop coming and then and we're like no there's no airdrop coming and then oh but except for these warps it's like oh wait wait a minute but it's not the same thing but it's also you know that now you've got people who are who are doing a little bit of that but i think that yeah a full on vampire attack i think would be really tough it's just not the right it's not the right move and it and you it's not gonna build the quality that you're looking for either and i feel like that's really the key it also makes me think back to what social media versus social network and the difference there and that's a big big difference for sure social network is that connecting aspect where media is just that broadcast it's just i wanna send you my i just wanna tell you stuff and i want you to then buy my stuff that's what to me like the you know media kinda thing is content kinda thing is but with social network that's not necessarily the aim right we're we're connecting for different reasons and it it relates really to our passions and what we're passionate about working on yeah
the the social network for social media i think has come up a few times i've heard dan mention it so i think you're right it's like the the emphasis becomes on the people and the connections and what you can do with it as opposed to the emphasis kind of where the content is first and then the people connecting is second because even on social media even though it is broadcast now there's still a graph and there's still connections but it just it almost seems like which one is primary and
3 point yeah
both 3 point you know kind of being like the the really the connections and and the people should be primary over the media
absolutely and and monkey links had a great point here in our chat invites equal missionaries vampire attacks equal mercenaries and i think that's perfect way to put it yeah because you it and to me it is another you know another way it's like you know attraction rather than promotion like you make a space that's so interesting and so like what's going on over there i gotta go you know what's hap you know that's to me a much better long lasting sustainable approach it's just harder to do and it's much slower
so yeah you know the vampire attack is much quicker but it also is probably not as sustainable long term and it's all it's also not gonna be the same level of quality so anyway
all set
there we go and yeah so the and oh gatekeeping yeah dewofi was talking about invites as gatekeeping but i think we've moved past that now it's more about bringing in your connected audience and finding the right folks who are gonna vibe with the space rather than trying to keep anyone out it's more like trying to bring in who we'd like to see you know adding to the seniors if you will moving on dan with a post about all of the activity in forecasters social graph is 100% permissionless and increasingly useful for use cases like civil resistance and reputation many bidirectional social interactions between people over a long period of time is hard to fake today there are 4,200,000 likes 2,000,000 casts and 2,500,000 follows and growing and if you layer it if you layer in connected ethereum addresses farcaster provides a mapping of social activity as well as on chain activity so we were you know this relates to what we were just talking about quite a bit so what were your thoughts on this i know you had some
i saw this fun fact half of those likes are from will robinson danger will robinson and borra dutch
and my manual likes
your manual likes that's not fair to say you half the likes are from me
well i know and i half
the replies are from doofy
yes under under
doofy this jk jk my favorite reply guy
well i did say i wanna be whorish with my likes when everybody else is trying to save space not yeah i wanna i wanna like all your casts okay loved this cast i i love when i get the kind of you can step back and just broadly see what are the stats across the network mhmm you know and because we're so small you know it's like what is it 5000 is it yeah you know 4 or 5000 yeah daily active users or or whatnot so yeah we're starting to get scale i had to google i'm gonna admit this i had to google sybil resistance and sybil attack because i've heard it but i didn't immediately know what he meant by it and if you're listening and you don't know and you don't wanna google and seem as dumb as me i will tell you it's about there are kind of attacks on social networks with the ability for people to create massive amounts of pseudonymous or or anonymous accounts and when you can't trust who you're talking to and you can't trust kind of the profile it degrades the trust of the entire platform so i think what he's saying is now we have these like really long running like data that goes back far so if you have someone like an at adrian and an at now and ishprof and we've had you know literally thousands of of connections and conversations what are the chances that we are completely fake and and doing yeah causing malicious harm like this is on chain reputation
and this is the promise of i think
we are real or we're really really really good ai i don't know which we're either real or yeah just
by the way if i was aia myself i would be way more articulate more eloquent and a little
prettier a little bit younger there are things we would younger we'd airbrush out these wrinkles out of my eyes yeah i would just i wanna look younger i don't want to be younger let's be let's be clear about that i'm perfectly fine but the great points and this kinda leads into ted's post ted's cast i made a kinda dumb cast month or so ago that i didn't respect a non account that have nothing to lose so they attack people i should have been more nuanced i think pseudonymous accounts like rune daniel formerly beth jesos are essential to growing a social platform and farcaster needs them are any here and i thought that was interesting and a couple of people i mean varun tagged hyper bad in july as some of the anons and i think broadcaster admin's another one no no he's not but accountless i guess would be another one another good one to to think of but i was thinking about this you know you think about like we were talking about symbol resistance and you you worry about those sort of attacks by anans but then there's also this whole pseudonymous layer that's so strong in crypto it's strong in gaming you know it's sort of you know the world of reddit which all you know really kind of you know is so interlaced into the tech space so you know for me i don't need to know your real name identity your family i don't need to know any of that i if i can see your on chain activity and your online activity i can judge a lot of who you are as a as a person from that for now we'll see yeah i might might get to a point where maybe i can't but for now i'm pretty good at spotting the ais but you can start to so so for me like pseudonymous is you know is different than anonymous so i don't mind somebody i only know by an ens i i don't like it if i only know their wallet you know that's a little different for me what are your thoughts on that
yeah same and look it's like it takes longer to build the reputation mhmm
when you're starting from scratch but yeah there's plenty of people i'm interacting with who i don't know one thing about them
yeah yeah
and and and yet i do but and yet there's trust and and i would transact and i would do business with and i would have conversations with and i thank our friends and i think there's i think there's valid reasons for anonymity
i think there is 2 i think sometimes there is and i think it really depends on circumstances and why and you know all of that and i think there's a lot of it's in the culture of crypto right there's this and i think it you know for many reasons some of them not all positive but it is you know it is part of it and it's something you have to navigate and i think what it does is make your critical thinking skills a little bit sharper or they need to be anyway and it's something that i you know definitely talk about in class it's like you have to do you you dyor you gotta do your own research and you gotta know that if you're trusting somebody you know that you only know as a you know a number you know it's like hunk this that you know the other thing it's like you're you're taking a risk but you have to gather the information and and make the best judgment you can as to what they're
what i don't like yeah i think what i don't like are people who are coming as either anons or pseudo anon and feeling entitled to the same level of trust and respect before they've earned it
good point
so yes we can trust you pseudo anon but it doesn't mean we trust all pseudo anons the same way it's you still have to earn your trust just like if you're fully doxxed
yeah absolutely i think it's just it it gets a little easier with somebody who's doxxed but it's not an absolute either like you know and it's it always i always think about this when i was and i still haven't finished the book but talking to strangers by malcolm gladwell it everything he's talking about really makes me think about web 3 3 a lot and it's all about like building that trust or people who deceive and the ones who are really good at it and all those kinds of things and it's really it's it's a fascinating thing and he talks about a lot of different studies and and around it and it's really really interesting so i always think about that when i think about web 3 okay of course it's 8:49 here we roll farcaster micro app idea friend timeline showcase first interaction reply most engaged exchange total quantity of interactions could loop in friend circle image your closest friends etcetera so i've i think we've seen some attempts at this like these circles that we saw pixel do and kbc with her social graph but not really in an app kind of form or you know to that level but what do you think about that idea and it kinda again we're we're kinda threading this all all the way through it's kind of all all related
i think even ted started talking about kind of early days of facebook i think that was one of the inspirations for that of like what they would show you i'm all for playful ways to visualize social and and online graphs so
i do i am too i think i love the artist artistic way about it i just saw monkey d links good point adrian lots of people think permissionless should be able to do everything right so that you know your nones should you don't get the same level of trust it it does have to build over time so yeah i love seeing and i love the idea of like that kind of how do you know finding being able to look back at my my friend interactions with different people moving on dan would love people's input on which prototype has the best design we'll do 1st 2nd 3rd prize please like the entry you find most compelling i'm going to i'm going to reply with at least 3 to this cast for a second and third so if you have not already go take a look at this i don't know if he's already chosen a winner or if we're still working on it but this was i believe part of a bounty as well so oh looks like he did he may have already done that i don't know but if you haven't had a chance go take a look at these entries and see what you think is the best and generally speaking we haven't touched on this too much but bounty caster has been a really amazing addition to the ecosystem that i've been really enjoying watching i haven't participated in a bounty on either side but i've been thinking about it for gm farcaster so we may we may do something soon so we'll see
what's on your mind what are you gonna use
i was think well you and i had talked about this a little bit about you know maybe an update to our our logo we kind of you know it was sort of like it was the mvp logo so maybe that's something we could use bounie caster for and or we would or i was thinking originally i was thinking prop house but this when this came up i'm like oh this is more native to farcaster this would make a lot of sense to give this a try so maybe maybe soon maybe soon and of course we're at the end of our time we're already over by a minute anything else that i missed i think we got most of our things anything else adrian before we call it
for the day just as you bring up dan's like we're we're we're trying to do 21 minutes of our castor news so in case you miss anything and i'm cracking up that announcements today are already stale they've already you know he's already won he's already announced a winner so i don't know what that says things move very fast around here
very fast and that was from yesterday i think i don't even think that was like one of the ones we pulled from like a couple days ago things move very fast you gotta stay on it and we will be back on friday for more gm farcaster and i'll have a little report from basil from art basil of all the fun things that have happened so we will see you then