Transcript: GM Farcaster ep39, Dec 21, 2023

NounishProf, adrienne · GM Farcaster

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am farcaster it is thursday december 21st and you are live with adrienne and the nynish professor 21 minutes of farcaster news to start your day how are you doing today adrienne what's going on

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good morning doing great i'm drowning in forecaster updates it's it's

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a lot it's a k it's a lot we got a lot going on it's i i i i'm i'm just like overwhelmed every day now it's i've noticed in web 3 where everyone else is like hey holiday week let's just shut down things ramp up and i don't know what the hell is but like the rest of the world is like i'm just shopping i'm wrapping presents and we're like that's so funny launch 1700 new features and put 27 nouns proposals up in in the holiday week great great job

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yeah why is that and no no no and let's also increase our usage of social media in general right so all the all the conversation memes fun and silliness is you know crazy

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and we are sporting our raps behind us these are our wraps our farcaster wraps she's got like double me but i think you were here double me i think you you got here probably you know 6 months or so before me so that makes sense

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did you

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i don't remember i am number like 44,000 something and i do not remember what month it was but it was sometime in early like it must have been early this year must have been january february had to be sometime

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okay that math doesn't add up because my my fit is higher than yours if you're in the 4 thousands i am and i got here in december of last year so you must have been

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i was here in november i wasn't active i was not very active

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so maybe you didn't get active until later

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i didn't realize i was here before you well that's wild yeah because i i was not active at first it was one of i i think i came through purple because of chris corella that's what got me more interested in farcaster and so i started spending more time and then it just was kind of a gradual progression to starting a permissionless morning show you you know how we do by the way i am sporting my very doctor seuss ish christmas there you go it's

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kinda fading my back holidays

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happy holidays to everybody happy hanukkah happy merry christmas all the things

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i am sporting

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gm

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and i am sporting my workout clothes because that will increase the chance i'm gonna work out today ahead of holidays gm chatters

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gm chat we love you okay so let's get into it we've got a lot going on i do wanna start with the biggest alpha of the year came out on our show the other day and got posted around a little bit and thank you duaofy for the clip of the biggest alpha of the year which is video is coming in 2024 i have no idea if varun knows this yet but it would be good to find out if he's off the plane yet and another thing that happened that same day which i i figured relates to us adrianne but we could be wrong if you don't have missionaries before you attract mercenaries the usage will disappear when the mercenaries stop getting paid and i thought that was an interesting statement and i my first thought was are we the missionaries i believe we might be so

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are we being subcasted

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i think we were being subcasted i really do and it was very nice so thanks dan i believe i believe we were included in that statement but i thought it was really interesting and it's a really good point it's if you're you know and i i think about this in crypto a lot because we see a lot of projects that come out they get a lot of hype they put a lot of money into that marketing and then a lot of times it's very much hype and and gone because it's not an organic growth it's not an organic sort of flow and i think that's one of farcaster's like secret you know secret weapons there is that it's grown very slowly over time and as you onboard people it's you know you start to solidify that culture so you have missionaries you have people who are just genuinely interested in supporting the ecosystem so either they're building on it and trying to improve it from the dev side and maybe building their whole business on it or they're you know us conversational conversation liquidity providers who also just wanna see it succeed but it's definitely different than that sort of paid promotion which you know is gonna have much it may have very great results in the short term but long term is gonna have harder to harder to sustain so any thoughts on that statement from dan i thought that was really interesting it kinda jumped out at me

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no and it's funny i didn't even i didn't even think he might be that that got triggered from our conversation we had with him earlier about kind of motivation but it's a it is a i i talk a lot about you know my devops community that i'm a part of and for those who've been following along my journey that's kind of where i initially heard the word seniors from a devops seniors and i applied it to to forecaster but in the devops world we talk a lot about missionaries over mercenaries as well and i think

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at the end of the day you gotta think about what motivates people if if and

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yep

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and money is a necessity but it's rarely an intrinsic motivator so when

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that's so interesting i when i was in management back way back when in in the corporate world that was one of the things i found this study that that talked about the 5 things you you know the top five things that motivate people and money was one of them but it's not always the thing and when you ask people to rank those things it's really interesting because praise and recognition is almost always at the top and then the feeling of doing it doing a job well like the just you know that mastery yeah like finding purpose things like that are often more important you know being seeing that you're part of something that's bigger than yourself is a big one all of that kind of thing so i think yeah you're you're 100% right on that

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and i've also yeah yeah i i've also done management management training back in the day based on motivation theory and it

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was oh interesting

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yeah it was all like as a as a manager of people how do you intrinsically motivate people and it was having nothing to do with money

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nothing yeah nothing and you and it was all you you just clarity you can like tap into other people's their motivations their internal motivations but you really can't motivate somebody especially to perform at a high level that's gotta come you know from them but you can set up you know incentives to trigger the motivation but it's tricky it's not it's not straightforward money doesn't always work and you think about it right now we're kind of experimenting with this you know magic internet money but also even things like warps which have essentially no intrinsic value but are highly sought after so we can find ways to motivate people in very strange in strange directions i do have to address monkeylinks lol you joined the dao's job is to proliferate farcaster before you joined farcaster not exactly but i was involved in the dao the dao structure that purple launched on which was noun's builder so similar similar okay let's jump in we've got so much to talk about oh i did love this meme that you posted adrianne veroen getting off a 20 hour flight to find out dan promised video to the masses so i think that was hilarious and then we also had this fun meme of dwr looks like john krasinski and i somebody who said i've been waiting to use this and it was the same picture meme which i thought was hilarious so dan getting a little little jabs here and then this last thing which i do not think we have confirmation on yet no we do not i keep hearing the community mentioned that dwr is getting a wow wow tattoo and has already booked the appointment for it is this true if it's true the dwr.eth would go down as the most legendary community builder of all time i did ask nicely if if dan wouldn't mind confirming that before 8:30 am he has not yet so we'll wait and see if the tattoo appears

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okay i don't support for the record i don't support this because there's no way dan is getting a there is a 0% chance dan is getting wow wow tattooed but there is someone out there who's seeing that and is out there today getting that tattoo so

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that they can have a matching

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tattoo so that they can have a matching tattoo with dan

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oh no no it'll happen anyway there will be incentive for wow wow tattoos so nouns if you get a noun's tattoo for a while we had a fund that would pay for it if you got goggles tattooed i don't believe we're still doing that thing but there was a period of time where that was a thing so there will be wah wah tattoos i guarantee it it just probably won't be on dan

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i'll do a temporary tattoo i'll bring fake tattoos to far cry

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there we go

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can we just take a pause in the chat just i wanna monkey delinks is is dan looking like john krasinski a dunk isn't he a sex symbol

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no it's not a dunk it's a good thing no it's just funny

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on on an on an episode of oz early early this year moment is in that's dan's other podcast antonio i think introduced dan at some point and it this might have been early i don't even know if i knew what dan looked like as the the most handsome man in crypto or something and he was teasing him and i'm like i feel like that he doesn't get trolled enough for being too handsome so

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you're too handsome dan we're not too sure what you like do do what you must hilarious okay moving on we had farcaster pizza day the other day and this fascinated me so i am fascinated with bitcoin pizza day and i'll jump into that in a second but simon anderson i turned 1,000 warps into pizza now i'm on an installment plan to ahn.eth for the next 9 days kmacb.eth cast inspired us with a cast about btc pizza day dwr.eth is is the first is this the first non digital purpose non digital purchase with warps and i would guess yes which i love because if you know the story of bitcoin pizza day back in i think it was god it was many many years ago it was like 2014 or 2013 something like that might have even been earlier than that i can't remember so we have the gentleman up in jacksonville florida as a matter of fact ordering pizza arranged to order pizza from papa john's with 10,000 bitcoin and the way he did that was to have a media intermediary somebody who would take the bitcoin and then they would pay i believe that's how it was how it was done so i feel like this was a similar situation where warps were paid to somebody and then somebody ordered pizza on the other side of the world which to me is just awesome like that's pretty pretty cool and they ordered like a different kind of like they ordered a specific kind of pizza that they like or something like that so it was just kinda neat so now we might have pizzadao celebrating farcaster pizza day as well is what i was trying to i i sent a message to snacks who is the founder of pizzadao and just made alerted him to the new holiday so that we can start we can start celebrating that and on bitcoin pizza day by the way may 22nd every year for the past few years there are parties all over the globe last year there was a 130 cities represented all across the world so pretty cool pretty cool thing so now we can start farcaster pizza day so i'm very excited about that for next year so december 20th next year farcaster pizza day yeah i just thought that was neat like we're starting to see all these new use cases for warps and i just think it's it's really fun okay gonna move on dan shout out to nanar and airstack for all their work in 2023 making it easier for developers to get started with varcaster data and apis if you remember we started 2023 with hubs still coming soon wild and everyone was dependent on warpcast api very different situation today and related to that dan's beginning of 2023 this network is a monoculture it's one big group chat 2 crypto centric not enough content in my feed end of 2023 oh my god too many topics and discussions i missed the group chat vibes too much content in my feed how what did you think about that do you do you kind of agree or you know are we ready to move away from the group chat

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i think it's funny i love his perspective i mean he also

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let's say when you're the founder of something you're you're taking feedback very differently than when you're a participant

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mhmm

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and

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so and when we're you know you look at my background you can see in props' background you can see how many minutes we spend on farcaster and and days casting so we're here a lot right we're we're kind of power users so when you're here all the time you don't always kind of see the change day to day mhmm

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but

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so i always love the year end stuff when you're like let's just take a pause and and like where are we today where were we a year ago how have things changed is it for the better so just everything changed

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using farcaster this time last year like if i wasn't i didn't even think i was on yet i thought it was january february but i think that's when i started actually using it so i probably was on in december which would make which would track and then started really using like january february march and then it ramped up after far con so i'm thinking about that i've been think i've been doing that pondering of like year end kinda like what was this year and like what was this year like i don't i don't even know i'm ending the year with a morning show that has an audience

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it is a weird year for me too

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are you ready my bingo card last january i'm gonna tell you right now that was not on the bingo card

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i had a

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what was on your bingo card

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i well i started writing up kinda my year end review by the way so as some of you know i left my comp i was at a i was at a company for 10 years so like very much in in one place and i left last year so i don't have to do annual performance i started my own business i don't have to do annual performance reviews anymore i don't but i love the year end review so i started writing one for myself of just kind of like a recap she's giving herself

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her own annual review gotta do it

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and i it's been an incredibly manic year of random projects like jamfarcaster and it's it's wild it's been super it's been a super fun year

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i did

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and farcaster has weirdly been this like at the center of it

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yeah totally it's so so wild okay we got a boogie man we've been chatting away here new feature for channel hosts on warpcast mobile channel norms list norms for your channel oops i went a little too farther will appear in a more more info on mobile and the sidebar on web may experiment with allowing hosts to require re to requiring acknowledgment and acceptance of norms before casting which is interesting for host access on channel page and pencil icon so i have been thinking about this because now we can add channel norms to our gm forecaster channel and i'm just i'm not sure like i'm not sure what we need there and i'm kind of just waiting because i don't wanna rush into i get uncomfortable with a lot of rules like most of you so totally like i i so i'm very hesitant to like start like you know putting rules in unless we don't really need them you know

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no and hopefully everyone can just and values yeah and i think norms are closer to values than rules and i hope so nice that yeah yeah and deal like it could be

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rules you know and i don't want that so

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yeah yeah and listen the whole the idea of of any sort of rule is and or law is you kinda never wanna touch them think about them like guardrails they're there but you shouldn't really need to use them so in these early communities when you're forming a norm norms are being established so if you as a channel host dictate the norms you're creating a very much of a kind of top down culture and maybe that works for some channels but a lot of channels you want to give the community ownership as well and feel empowered and maybe you want bottoms up norms and you have to give it time time for norms to be established

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absolutely and i think it's yeah and i think like it's it's sort of you you know it reminds me when you create a discord server and you set up those rules and you you know set it up to acknowledge it it's like something something i've gotten used to and i don't really think about but that's the other thing a lot of times people don't even read them and all that so if it's not gonna have actual value in application like i'm kinda hesitant to to do it but we'll see we'll see we'll see

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i could say that about so many things in life

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so many things

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right if there's no value in it

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why am i doing it

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don't do it

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just don't do it okay some other new launches this week ponder surveys 2 point o have arrived here's what's new totally fresh landing page direct survey submission with ponder tokens live survey previews and more to read the full breakdown check out our post on paragraph and you tried this out yes

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i did

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you set one up and i did as well but i don't think mine's been posted yet because i didn't do it in the g m we didn't have the option gm forecaster channel yet so how did you like the process and what do you think about it

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well i didn't do it from the so i don't do it from the channel i do it you do it from the ponder app

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right

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exactly the ponder app

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yeah exactly

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or maybe your channel wasn't theirs

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wasn't there yet

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because it's got a full yep yep okay because it's yeah so shout out i wanna say ba ben adamski adamski and kojo yep is that doing pndr

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that is correct that's true

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lovingly airdropped me some ponder tokens so i could try it out with gm forecast her so i went to the app i gave them both a shout out too their their website copy is incredible like if you're like what is ponder and i read through and i find website copy to be one of those arts that's so hard to master so good job if you wanna know what it is check out their website but i yeah created a the hardest part was thinking about what to what to ask

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honestly yeah it was very easy to do i like the way it's set up it makes a lot of sense and very easy to set up and go but it was yeah the hardest thing is like coming up with a question so yeah

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but it's cool

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to have

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been they but you it's been cool to watch them build in public and and experiment and it's still not permissionless so it still requires them to review like you you submit it with your ponder they review it if they don't post it they return ponder tokens but but they post it and and unlike warps theirs is a is a token

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yeah

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so it's interesting to see 2 different kind of approaches to points in in the ecosystem and

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definitely

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that all plays out

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it's been very interesting to see all these different approaches so and then we also had another launch with jack from icebreaker our regiftable gift box in collaboration with base is live to celebrate the holidays so i need to go do this i haven't had a chance to do to mint this yet but how cool that they're partnering with they're partnering with base on that so i think that's that's amazing so that was a cool thing that happened yesterday then we have the big the big meta and i know i left this for the last minute the big meta was personal channels so channels went from decentralized reddit to decentralized tumblr with 6 and alok and a whole bunch of others full dan fully expect creators to have channels in the same way they have youtube channels or discords engage with your community with a link to 6's channel and 6 i believe was the first one to kinda do it or at least for do it to do it and and take notice i would say so 6 i want to make and lead a channel but have no idea what would be good bought 25 100 warps so that's not an issue and then hello welcome to my personal channel i love posting on my main feed but unfortunately the algorithm necessitates that i must post in channels to solve this i've created a channel for just my own casts and thoughts that wouldn't normally go in another channel thank you for being here and then we had cameron let me cook he started his cameron builds channel and then this was the funniest one jihad said should i make a jihad channel i bet that would turn out well and i thought yeah maybe maybe not maybe a different not maybe a different name just you know what could go wrong many things

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this was with yeah this is like the turn of events that was like if you it the first time you see someone create a channel for yourself and themself and you're like this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard 6 people do it later and you're like of course it was always meant to be sense and dan really got people to pay $25 to post in their home to because we don't wanna post in home feed

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what i know it's really funny but it's you know it's it was the same thing of like thinking about gm forecaster but that to me is like a brand it makes sense but you know for if you're if you are your brand if you're writing a live you're doing things if you're a creator it might make a lot of sense to have a channel i don't know we're gonna see how these go but i thought it was really interesting i had the same thought of like this is kinda crazy and then i went maybe it's not well like you know let's see how this plays out it's gonna be interesting i also learned something new that 6 i i know 6 as onion from nouns he changed it to 6 i didn't realize that's because it's his builder dao token number and that to me was like how did i i of all people not know this i don't know but i thought that was pretty amazing and i learned that in his channel yesterday so there you go a couple quick things we're gonna like fly through because there's one more thing we really need to talk about very quickly and that's spam because we did not talk about this the other day introducing a revolutionary meme coin idea spam this is the idea that launched the future coin the first meme coin that we can minted on posting on far farcaster tag spam anywhere in your cast then go to website and claim your share of the coin so winter did not actually create this he had the idea for it and then borradesh actually launched dollar sign spam actuals erc 20 coin and supposedly when you type dollar sign spam on farcaster you'll also be getting a claim for that token it's getting crazy but also there's now a spam channel so you can just go spam in there and when muting channels i think that's the big thing right so hopefully we'll have that fairly soon so that people can you know

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i posted yesterday some friends posting return i casted yesterday that my superpower is the ability to like let crap like be on my feed and it doesn't bother me like i'm good i can scroll past things it doesn't change span is really testing me hard

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it's really hard

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really pushing me to my limit but i'm good i have your span

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hang in there we think that channel muting is coming soon you're it's your i like that you connected it to your meditative meditation practice i thought that was really interesting i do not have such a practice anymore i used to but i also can do that thing where i just like i don't and i think a little this is gen x and we've talked about this before of like the the you know the the gen x is it's harder to we're harder to offend we just we just go whatever and we we move on so one quick announcement monday we do not have a show we don't have a show tomorrow this is our friday show it's on thursday today we don't have a show monday we're taking a little break for the holidays tuesday we have a gm farcaster off-site retreat in other words adrian's coming to florida and we're gonna have go have lunch and chat about all things gm farcaster and then wednesday we're gonna talk about it so wednesday will be our only show next week and we will wrap up all the things and talk about the holidays and and our and our we'll give you all the alpha about what we're gonna be doing in 2024 for gm broadcaster so that's it for today anything i missed adrienne before we call it no the big i missed

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we covered it so right happy happy friday everyone

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happy friday a little day early happy friday and we will see you all next wednesday have a lovely holiday to those who celebrate and thank you to the chat we love you by the way one last thing monkey link's comment when we were talking about dan and his john krasinski hand handsomeness he said no muting channels well you're lucky you're handsome so there you go

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gm everyone

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i'm sure varun will i'm sure varun will be happy with that he'll take the

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no he'll take the

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the run like that

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have a great holiday everyone and we will see you wednesday bye bye bye bye everyone