Transcript: GM Farcaster ep89, April 15, 2024

NounishProf, toadyhawk.eth · GM Farcaster

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g m farcaster it is monday april 15th and you are here with and guest cohost tony hawk

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not adrianne oh sorry

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not adrianne also known as not adrianne not adrianne

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i still need to get that e that dot eth i haven't got that yet

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that e that e n s would be great yes the not adrianne dot eath we definitely

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probably someone in chat's gonna grab it now someone in chat's gonna grab it now and try to sell it to me at a premium

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try and sell it back to you i would not be surprised at all adrian's traveling she'll be back with us tomorrow and by the way in case i forgot tomorrow we are gonna be on at 11:30 am est 8:30 pacific with july and i'm really excited for that interview because that's gonna be a lot of fun he is just a fascinating guy but before we get into all that

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why didn't you wait like just a couple more months to have him on

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i know i thought about it but we're gonna do july we're gonna do july in in april instead

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it's like christmas in it's like chris christmas in july but it's

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it's in july but it's july and april i know i know i it would have been better for the meme but yet you know we'll take them when we can get them because i cannot wait wants to know where the noggles are hold on they're right here but i don't wear them for this show only for when i when i co guest cohost on 0 pod but there you go if you want if you want the screenshot really quick here it is noggle up there we go by the way there is not one episode of jamfarcaster that doesn't have noggles you just have

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to know what it is

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not a single one not a single one every single one i always have the earrings

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maybe i should get my maybe i should get my ear pierced so i can be more sensitive

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you always have them that way you always have them so let's move in we've got a few things to talk about first off my background today is casters and this is snapshot 40 amazing and it was curated by renee campbell who's one of my favorite artists so that is my background today and go check this out where images are actually showing so it's very exciting so go take a look at that because right now

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this morning this morning i posted something in nouns and i had to like record my screen on my phone and put and post a video

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this is a video

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what kind of jank shit is this

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we're getting janky so here's why because we're having some issues this is from bay with image uploads due to an api provider this am and it's still as of the last time i checked not working

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i really hope they fix it in the next 2 hours because we have an interesting drop happening from yellow so hopefully

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we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that i know i'm very excited for that one very excited for that one but yes very annoying but you know what for those who don't know and weren't here super early once upon a time there were no images there was no image sharing on farcaster when it was called farcaster and it was on tef flight

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and and we used to have to walk uphill both ways to school

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both ways yep absolutely yes i know i sounded like my grandmother last night explaining that i was like yeah yells at cloud yeah like woman

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yells at cloud today on

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gm on gm broadcaster back in my day it was a text only app there you go and definitely no video that just came recently also there's been some warp cast warp cast had a delay processing messages this am also this is from varun traffic spike in the middle of the night on the protocol caused messages to get backed up we're 95% caught up now and working on fixing to make sure this doesn't happen

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so lots of things it's okay to sleep you can just sleep you can go to sleep you know

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it's fine

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you don't have to be on warpedcaster at 2 in the morning

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you just don't not that i ever do that all the time but yeah you don't have to really you can go to sleep and yeah so we're getting a lot of traffic and it's getting busy but luckily all that all your notifications are looking better with all that traffic so we did have a few things happen at the end of last week so this was from dan a few days ago priorities for quality on warpcast one notification speed 2 channels 3 cast thread pages have a good plan and hopeful

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threading is really difficult right now

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very difficult i would love to be able to thread easily and then we could get the thread ores like adam cochran back over on war cast where he belongs but he

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also need i think to adjust they need to adjust the algo i think too when they improve threads because i've one thing the my only gripe with the way the algo works on war if i had one is that subcast don't really get any kind of attention like what

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do you mean by subcast you mean like the replies

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yeah replies to your

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own cast

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any any replies to a cast really if you look at anything underneath the original cast there's pretty much no likes on anything which means people aren't really seeing

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it

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so that's one thing that they need and i think it's because like replies aren't bumped or anything to followers and something to maybe used to be tweak yeah they used

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to be they used to be and then they changed that and i think that was just due to you know larger volume but they did used to be so i i wonder if we tweak that again

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but nobody will write threads of course if the first exactly the first pass gets read but nobody can find the rest so they'll have to be

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for sure for sure and the first part of this improvement plan here was notifications so this happened on friday new on webcast see notifications for people you care about i thought that was a funny way to put that the new priority feed shows notifications is a combo of people you follow and people with a power badge new notice here are content are counted in the unread badge red dot we've also added a bunch of notification specific filters to make browsing easier things that will go away with priority tab mass like recast spam especially of older cast grouped x replies from people you don't follow all mentions replies quotes are shown in the mentions tab and the single grouped follow notification that bumps is now smaller windows more improvements here and i was a little confused on that part because my follows for a while it was broken so it wasn't even showing it used to show the individual it would show you when you clicked on follows it would show you all the individuals that were in that particular grouping and then you could go in and see if there are ones you wanted to follow that was broken for a few days it's fixed now this morning so back to that so tony what did i think of the new notification breakdown

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i think it's good it it seems to be pretty streamlined one thing i like about it is that i i was never really a fan of how they took everybody that you don't follow that replied to you and put them all in one you know grouped whatever that you had to actually expand because i found that i would miss people's replies and stuff often because of that so it wasn't the i i it was like a it felt like a stop gap measure to stop spam but it didn't feel like a permanent solution so i like now that basically that's its own tab so you can kind of like check your priority which is the people you follow then check pretty much everybody else in the second tab easily and then i also like that you can see all new followers i guess in the 3rd tab in case there's someone you wanna reciprocate or what have you so yeah

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exactly yeah

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follow back sir follow back sir tip deepgram

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i'm not doing that yeah easiest way for me to block you ban you for a channel for a channel that i manage or mute you forever is to ask me to tip you when i've never met you before

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and this goes for real life as well

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yes this

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goes for real life as well you see professor at the at the grocery store don't ask her to tip me dee chen she will block you

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i will block you i will pay you for remember that with an actual about that if one person

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oh yeah

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people in person like can i wanna mute this person who i'm seeing in in person irl muting that happened that's happened a couple of times wish we could do that i loved this from colin your what was it your your in their other i'm in their priority that was pretty funny

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colin always has the good me actually i thought it was cameron but colin also has

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the good me that one's colin yeah colin from that's colin from america always pretty funny and then this from horse facts fc actions those are cast actions enable better tipping systems real time balance allowance updates reliable time stamps and accounting no storage costs for 100 token replies better foundation for concepts like delegation which i thought was interesting existing emergency systems are hold on one second existing emergency systems are very impressive given past constraints but we can do better working on it what were you gonna say sorry tony

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no my bad i i was just gonna say why has nobody created a degen tipping action yet is that weird

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have i

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missed that

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there is

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there is one yeah i haven't seen it

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yeah there was it's one of the first ones it's called paperboy and you can set it up right now but it and it does give it as a reply so what horse facts is talking about is something that wouldn't give it as a reply and would be more like warps the way warps tips and that hasn't been created yet or that hasn't been done yet but i think it's coming soon

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well how will that work from dgen's side because i do wonder how i'm assuming they scrape i think they scrape the api using dune somehow because they whenever they have issues it always seems to be doing query related so they must use dune somehow to scrape the api for any mentions of of dollar sign dgen and figure it out that way so i do wonder if they're gonna have to change the way do they do things in order for cast actions to be able to tip dgen without making a comment

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doing the reply yeah i think they will and so and the other thing i had so and yesterday crypto said yeah there are several paypal has one as well as money gun and then the one i've used has been paperboy so the thing with paperboy is you can set it up for either percentage and and some of these are similar or a fixed amount and it you just click the cast action and it'll do it but it doesn't have anywhere to put a comment so that's my only issue because it does come in as a reply but it doesn't like let me say and this is why i'm giving this to you so if you think about the way warps works with tipping you can do that i'm not on a cast but you can do it when you're sending like a 100 warps so i think it's

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and it feels less spammy when you give a reason yeah

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you know what i mean exactly

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yeah i very rarely will tip without without a reason or some sort

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of comment

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just it just feels like you're just like spamming the feed otherwise

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yeah exactly i def i definitely want to be able to say why i'm giving you this you know without you know throwing it out there unless i'm in a rush

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yeah she's tipping you at the grocery store she wants to stand there for a bit and tell you why

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i wanna tell you why i'm giving you this tip by the way we don't touch the grocery store we're not even allowed so just letting you know okay and moving on we've got from justin hunter i just wanna mention this pinata is hiring full time staff level engineer requirements based in the us or canada 5 plus year experience writing code for fast moving startups experience with node.js and go bonus experience building product for developers dm elise 9 if you qualify

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and bonus bonus experience hanging from trees and not being afraid of big sticks

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yes that also helps as well yes our friends at pinata would love are fantastic to to work with so go check that out if you're interested yes there's not that kind of pinata todie not that kind of pinata this is code but also before i forget to mention it the show is presented by pinata so and as is my so moving on yes and we do move fast on this so you gotta keep up you gotta keep up tony but let me make sure let me read the cast because some people are only listening they're not looking they're only listening to us this is from syndicate announced excited to announce the deploy on dgen week schedule that includes sessions by jacek wake nick ian doss will alex beta shop ted jess and josh and more acceptances are starting to go out final deadline to apply was last week so this is starting today so if you are building on dgen this is gonna be a really cool i'm super excited to see what comes out of this because exactly some of the things we were just talking about is probably what's gonna come out of this so that would be my guess but i think this is gonna be a lot of fun yes just said i'm a listener he always he's always listening to us while he's walking the dog but i'm super excited to see what comes out of deploy on dgen week this is gonna be fun jacek was telling about this last tuesday if you missed that chat with jacek go back and listen to that i think it was episode 86 so because that was a lot of fun and anything you wanna see from a d build on deploy on dgen week anything that comes to mind besides better tipping cast actions which is definitely one i'd love to see

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no nothing in specific but like you said i'm just interested to see what p people come up with with their creativity so and i'm happy to see will popper on there we're actually gonna be chatting with will popper tomorrow for for 0 pod so i was gonna ask you if you wanted to join me i don't know if you're free but

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what time is that we'll take it offline let's take that offline

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take it offline

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i gotta check my calendar yes my first answer is yes but let me check my calendar but yes that would be a lot of fun because i would love to hear i this has been really interesting to see him kind of you know it's nice to see noggles in this little image right here it's kinda

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cool yeah

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see to see him representing so yeah i'd love i'd love to hear what you have to say about what is happening with all of this next up and i'm really curious to get your take on this this is very interesting so so this is from martin wtf is this never wrote this cast or interacted with the above cast only signer could be get meme caster insane breach of trust if a client is dishing out degen tips without my permission so it turns out that there was some confusion this is from a left hey sorry about the confusion by the way the ui prompts you at sign up to ask there's a setting in app for you to turn it off and i personally damn did inform you you can turn it off however what happened was that i guess he thought it was turned off martin thought it was turned off and had deleted the app so couple things on this my first thought is be very careful what you're allowing sign in for and i know that i have probably not been as careful as i should on that because i get a little too trusting there was something else similar that happened with the fire token with this because at times you may be actually authorizing the whatever app this is to post as you on warpcast so being very careful about that and who you're giving that trust to but also you know it's it's we're getting to that point where things are things are getting more sophisticated and it could be very easy to slide into something where you don't even realize what's gonna happen after the fact because you think it's something very simple so thoughts on this tony

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so i just wanna understand what happened here so he signed up for this thing called memecaster which i don't know what that is but

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yeah so i guess it yeah so i guess what it was was that it would it would allow you to tip out remaining of your at the end of the time period like at the and when it was about to reset so that was part of it and it would that's what it was doing so when it's when it's tipping out here that's exactly what was happening you didn't you had that left for the day it tipped out to memecaster tipbot

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oh so it just tipped itself i feel like that's that's not great i feel like that's yeah definitely self dealing and you know it it doesn't feel doesn't feel great some of us in yellow have started tipping the the base in yellow account every day with excess tips and that feels okay because at least it's going to a collective it's gonna be used you know for good to support artists but in this case it just feels a bit more like self dealing because we don't know you know who is memecaster i'm assuming it's just the dev that made the bot i don't know if it was if it was very i didn't sign up for this so i don't know if it was very clear from the from the get go being like this is free software would you like to allow us to tip ourselves your excess tips if you don't use them every day that's a different story i don't know if that was the case

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it sounds like that was the case but i don't know for sure but i think the issue was that then martin had decided not to use the app had removed it and then was it was still the the assigning approval continued even though he had done that so

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yeah the best practices there obviously would be a sign

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when you

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use the app it should be yeah what it should be done whatever you approve

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should revoke yeah it should revoke

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yeah

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yeah it should revoke that approval so it is a little i think it's interesting there's another one called tipcannon that's just starting as well so there's some of these that are happening so just be aware i do think some of them are cool like i do think that you know what based on y'all is doing but that's for individuals are doing that right they're going in at the end of the day and saying hey i've got this left let me tip this particular account and we you know where it's going so just being a little bit careful with

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that even as i was talking it out like you know for softwares doing open source development i'm not even opposed to like them having something very upfront like that and saying hey this is free software would you like to earmark 10% of your degen tips for the next 30 days and you agree to it and then that's what happens like why not like let's use

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right

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this literal imaginary imaginary money that we're creating out of thin air let's use it to actually facilitate open source development i'm all for that but yeah obviously you have to be careful what you're allowing and and be very exactly this is a good lesson for memecaster to be very careful about how you

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thanks claire

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yeah yeah very good and how you govern how you govern the the responsibility that that users give you with their accounts because martin's looking at this being like i didn't fucking do that you know so not

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right and forgetting and thinking that once he deleted the app that wasn't even an option and then yeah so definitely being careful of what you're signing but also if you're creating something like this being really clear about what is happening in this sort of process alright we did

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it just one more quick note yeah this app should have said 12,995 dgen and then another line should have been this is an automatic tip being for you know being yes posted by the meme caster tip bot is what really should have happened

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there i absolutely agree yeah that would have been a better formatting and then it would have been clear to also anyone looking at it from martin and not realizing that he didn't you know go in and actually do that that that was part of a part of a thing yeah great point really good point few other things and i don't know if you've checked this out yet but bracket game did their first golf version this weekend and this was really fun so i had a really good time with this it i did not do well and i but i learned a lot about how to do better there's a lot of learning here but it was really fun they're gonna be doing this with a whole bunch of different not that i want to encourage your gambling blah blah blah blah but it was fun so again act responsibly yada yada yada and if i how

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do you get exposure to this if you're not a sport i don't i don't really bet on sports but i think it's it's going to be huge

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i think it's not a huge issue

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is there a token there's no token i'm just

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no you just use d gen it uses d gen so you go to bracket.game or go to get /bracketchannel and you can learn more about that and it was

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are they on the l three or no

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pretty fun

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are they on

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the right now they're on base they're on base i think yep so not on the l three but it was really interesting and i think it's you know it's a work in progress but it was a lot of fun and it was fun to ask my son for his recommendations because he's a golfer i thought this was really funny too my dcs with goose about bracket game feature requests and this was somebody who was doing this in apple pro apple vision pro looking at like all these different screens at the same time which i thought this was hilarious i'm like yep that would be goose you don't know goose he runs the golf channel and is a little obsessed and may or may not be related to one of the cofounds

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that's op we we gotta nerf that that's not fair

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yeah he's got he's got some he's got some things we are getting too close to the end of our time so i'm gonna flip through to some important things that i wanted to talk to you about first off was this new thing by the way i'm gonna read this from tony hawk disclaimer i have no idea what i'm doing dog.jif just trying this farcaster profile trading card thing out i also have 5 invites if anyone needs 1 just comment below go get my card trade it in earned degent or gtfo join onrx to learn more so i kept seeing this pop up everywhere i think these cards are really cute i didn't fully understand what was going on here is uncut which is the app that is running this but they also stopped onboarding new people at one point because they got a little overrun and i think that was part of what was happening with the farcaster api as well there were some issues there not i mean not not saying they were the reason but i mean that they fell into that same issue and i think that's what was going on but do you wanna just what do you think of this so far

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i just think it's a it's a fun app i think it's it's a it's sort of a take on on friend tech meets pokemon where basically you go on and and you you create a trading card of your own profile and then people can buy and and sell and trade you know not financial advice it's just for fun hard to gauge how it's gonna do because right now like you said it's at a standstill because they didn't expect the demand that they got i i think it's it's it's neat not a big fan of of the name i'm gonna keep banging this drum as long as i have to but i'm getting annoyed i'm getting frankly annoyed by people launching really cool novel protocols and giving it seems not very much time or thought to like what you name a product which you know by the way does really matter for how how people react and interact with your product and you know this one in particular just boggles my mind because uncut says some very unsavory connotations in north america pornographic connotations so i don't know why you would choose this name for a fun app that's supposed to be you know for everybody but it's early so that's my

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only on wrecked you know anything you're talking about wrecked you gotta be careful

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i mean but even to be honest with you on wrecked would be better i would be okay with if that was the name on wrecked because then it's kinda like tongue in cheek it's like you know you know what you're getting into but this this one just i don't know strikes me as weird maybe it's a language barrier thing i don't know but people if you're launching something and you're putting all this work into the code and like the design of it like spend a couple dollars or at least ask a friend of yours who knows something about branding and to spend some time i'm gonna i'll stop now but

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honestly ask chat gpt it would be more helpful

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he would've would've come up with a better name than this

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yeah but i i think

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it's an app i'll see we'll see what happens it's hard it's hard with bonding curve apps to keep interest high because people get priced out really quick like to give you an example i signed up yesterday and my card wasn't loading right away and by the time i got my card to load i was priced out on my own card so the it's really

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i know and you sent me yours and i looked at it i'm like i'm not paying i'm not paying that much for that

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i'm not paying $700 for coding absolutely

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not but also that's been my issue with things like this and i i jumped into front tech early on just to try it out and i just recently sold all my things and i'm trying to get off of there and i get i put a thing in there and saying sell me sell my key because i'm i really wanna get off of here sell me baby please sell me it's i think it's don't tip

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me don't tip me in public but sell me baby

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sell me but i i really think that you know it's it's tricky it's tricky there's there's something uncomfortable for me with this sort of thing however i did like trading cards i think they're cute i like the look of them so i was very torn on this one if this

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also farcaster integrated which is nice

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yeah

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i i'm surprised that friend tech still isn't integrated with farcaster it's really weird like i went back recently to check it out and you still can't even connect your farcaster account you can yeah

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it's just twitter

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and yeah and it's not that hard to connect to farcaster like brennan did it for tavern like in 2 days so it's it can't be that difficult from a different perspective to connect some

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i think they just don't want to i mean they just don't want to yeah i think it's a choice

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which is weird to me but yeah

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so i just kinda you know i i'm a little hesitant on these things but this one i'm still kind of open to a little bit but the bonding curve thing where people are involved i don't know it gets very weird so but it's interesting

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party app you know party app did their rooms

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that was another one

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yeah about a month ago and they went a little bit too agro i think also on the bonding curve and and people are complaining about it parties since sort of pivoted in smartly i think into doing like the presales for meme coins because people were using it for that anyway so i don't know if they're still actively developing rooms they probably are but hopefully they'll you know give that some thought and smooth out the bonding curve and and and you know hopefully apps like this one uncuts will will do the same

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i'd love to see that yeah because i that was another thing i did not dive into and you had a room and by the time i got i'm like i am not paying this much to chat with somebody that i'm in a dm with every single day no not too

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you know what's funny though one of those rooms though we did a dgen hq room they had asked me to host a couple rooms for the launch and i launched a a dgen hq 1 and a and a base builders 1 and me and cooper haven't been that active in them i need to go back and check-in on them but one of them i noticed recently in the dgen hq thing we talked and we decided to do the most dgen thing possible which was the dgen double down we put all of our eth into ave on base borrowed max against it like 0.75 against it and then use that to buy d gen market by d gen and it's it's pretty hilarious because like i think we it was we went to like $1,000 worth of eth to like $15,000 worth of nice e of d gen with that with that move

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i mean then that's really interesting and to see that kind of collective action is very interesting so alright

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but we didn't plan what we were gonna do with it after that like i don't know what what happens now

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you don't know what happens now no

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oh well that was a good move now what

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cool though now what last thing that i wanna talk about and we are running a little over which i knew was gonna happen with you and i say that with love i say that with love this is from tony hawk coming up this week from the yellow collective based friends forever collection by luster dorey which i'm gonna show you in just a moment coming out today this morning at 11 am i believe that's launching i think

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11 am pst yeah hopefully hopefully images are working on work out that

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would be nice that would be very helpful you know what they do work on supercast i believe i believe that's how people are getting some images through maybe maybe i have to double check

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for that

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gen art edition by on tuesday 50 percent to yellow we don't do are we allowed

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i think we can i think we can reveal now i believe that this is a collaboration with highlight platform

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exciting they

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are going to be announcing a new feature on tuesday and they're releasing a generative art piece to celebrate and 50% of the proceeds of that piece are gonna be on the yellow very exciting showing a highlight and and that for that emoji really excited for that

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so love the highlight team they're amazing first ever fine art claim in frame from corey van lew on april 23rd so go put might wanna throw notice on for yellow anan so yeah you guys you're cooking you're cooking

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and one more thing one more thing i forgot to add on here on wednesday we also have a rounds dot wtf launching with hire so hire is sponsoring an art contest basically and the prompt for that i teased a little bit ago it's gonna be based in yellow equals green so it's kind of like yellow yellow and green color prompt yeah it's gonna be fun really open prompt for artists and 25,000 higher tokens that they've given up and we've we've matched that so it's a pool of 50,000 higher tokens to be won by artists that's launching wednesday as well so lots happening in willow this week

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amazing and this is the collection from oops there we go from illustradora who i adore illustradora like i we go way back to little sisters and i just adore her style i love everything she does so i am really looking forward to scooping up a whole bunch of these later today

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i'm kind of annoyed because that's supposed to be a gift with all 10 of those and it's still not showing all 10 despite yeah

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it's only showing 3 but it's really cute it's really cute though so really excited for that so lots of fun things coming from yellow thank you toti hawk for sitting in for adrian today and we're running a little over time but i do wanna mention that tomorrow again we are going to have july on we will be at 11:30 am est 8:30 am pacific cause he is on the west coast so we didn't want to make him wake up at 5:30 and we're super excited thank you to the chat you guys are amazing and they're saying thank you tony hawk they're throwing up throwing up the the floating floating is this real

30:25Speaker 1

chad is this real

30:26Speaker 0

it's real it's real and thank you all and we will see tomorrow back with adrian and thanks so much and thank you tony and i'm looking forward to seeing everything from yellow and that's it bye bye bye

30:41Speaker 1

gm