Transcript: Down Down and All Mixed Up: GM Farcaster ep311

NounishProf, adrienne · GM Farcaster

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gm adrian it's friday yeah and cast out's done and i'm very excited to share all about that at the end of the show today so we're gonna we're gonna jump in and we don't you know it's been a little quiet i think people are just sad and depressed and hanging out in their rooms under the covers

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because cast out is because cast out is over

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yes that's the reason having nothing there's nothing else

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there's nothing else doom and

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gloom not at all not at everything's great everything is awesome i was just thinking about that last night with like the lego movie i don't know if you remember that but like where they were just like everything was absolutely falling apart and they were just like everything is awesome

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and that's what i keep thinking about

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alright and with that we're gonna get started we got a little quick little intro and we'll be back on the other side of this forty

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seconds

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welcome to gm farcaster bringing you everything from breaking news to spicy memes to the deep lore shaping this vibrant digital community more than just a show gm farcaster is your digital third space where the community connects the stories unfold and the culture thrives whether you're a daily caster or just dropping by we've got the latest buzz to keep you plugged in so grab your coffee and let's dive in with your hosts nanish proff and adrianne for another episode of gm farcaster

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gm farcaster it is friday happy friday november 14 how did that happen i don't know and you are here with nanesh professor and adrienne for a twenty nine minutes of farcaster news to start your day and it we might actually just hit twenty nine minutes it's quite possible we might be able to do it today i'm not making any promises but i feel it i feel like we can do it

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i'll take the i'll take the over on that bet

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look don't put it on polymarket because there's a very good chance we could lose that would be actually a funny prop bet every day like a funny like polymarket every day

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no it wouldn't that's like the that's like the ponder poll that was like what's better forecaster or twitter i mean it was like

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i know but if we like if we had a

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you could bet a dollar you could bet a dollar

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like yeah like something like that yeah it'd be like it could be like a a a you know a spectrum so anyway we are gonna get jumped jump into some farcaster and clanker news and dgen news and base and we've got a few things going on but first this is the market right now it's just idiots i thought that was really funny spitfunkopolis also the name i mean the name alone which is hilarious but yes the chart is puking so it's been not great past like thirty six hours or so maybe forty eight not not great not great but we we power on this was cool to see clanker 101 live stream with dish we covered this is from linda we covered topics what is clanker how to launch a token what are the fees token management and adding liquidity deployment configuration static versus dynamic fee reward recipients creator vault dev buy airdrops and best practices and you can find this on pine tree so go check that out if you missed it live so also i think the live is probably still on the farcaster twitter feed as well so you can find it there also i'm sure but super helpful if you are thinking about launching a token on clanker go check this out before you do because it'll be very helpful to you and meanwhile everybody's getting ready for dev connect and limone is already there expecting 180 people later today at our mini apps one hundred and one session i'll be talking about mini apps the opportunities they bring how to make them viral and the importance of distribution human agent from xmtp will show us how many apps innovate chat experiences frank k and fabrizio gianni i i'm thinking he's definitely english or maybe i don't know indian and something like that oh maybe italian fabrizio gianni seven will showcase cool examples to inspire all of you see you later so that's gonna be really fun so if you are interested in learning about mini apps hopefully you are there already and that should be a very cool session i don't know if he's recording it that would be i don't know useful i hope he is because that would be useful

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but but i also find with mini apps it's like

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if he records it by the time you watch it in two months from now like maybe one thing will have changed so it's like kinda have to

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but if you're doing if you're creating a mini app right now it'd be helpful

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we have his talk from far con

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yeah that's true we do

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where he talked about kind of how to go viral and

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so

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watch we and those are available on youtube on our farcon channel on our playlist so you can find it there but we surely i can't meaning to separate those out into individual chop it up so i will i will get on that because you just reminded me so we do need to get those chopped up a little bit but that that was a great talk but i'm sure this one is gonna be a little bit more in-depth for the devs so go check that out

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interested in building mini apps you should get interested in building mini apps that's my advice

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adrianne adrianne is is fully mini apps like she's she's down the rabbit hole she's gone

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we've lost everybody needs to build a mini app what are you doing

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what are you even doing with your life

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i'm obsessed i'm yes

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i really there's a couple that i still wanna build but i feel like i'd be better off waiting for nayanauer to finish up their beta version i don't know i don't think i can quite get there yet i i need your help i would need your help we don't have time for that

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i think the arc and i think our 2026 gm forecaster arc is gonna be building lots of mini apps

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just mini apps yeah yeah

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almost like a mini app studio that's my

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alright she's a mini app studio now

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i like the news but i think we're gonna be building more mini apps next year

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alright my i i have

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a couple ideas i just don't know how to fully flesh them out so we'll get we'll get on that alright also at devconnect we've got a farcaster meetup coming up also limone 400 plus rsvps for our farcaster meetup on november 20 you who wanna help me pick help me picking four farcaster native cocktail names reply below most likely answers will go on the menu i mean obviously there has to be a wow wow of some sort i mean like a purple wow wow or something like that

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i started replying to his cast coming up like making the cocktail recipes and then i realized he just wanted names of cocktails i'm like oh i'm not good at that i can tell you what to put in them and then i figured there i just obviously there will be a wow wow so what yeah hasn't been a wow tell you

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yeah and a clank clank would be good a wow wow a clank clank maybe a mole something green mhmm yeah so this is gonna be fun yeah

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we could do green green and purple

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yeah it'd be fun there's green drinks a little midori just throw that in there yeah so this is gonna be a lot of fun i am gonna have some fomo on this one so enjoy that'll be a good time hopefully everybody's rsvp'd and this also from you i shipped it it's a continuous scrolling feed of the dev connect channel for display at dev connect so that's awesome it looks great i was i you were you showed me like the small version of this and i'm like yeah but what does it look like on a tv

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she's like oh yeah

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you're right

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i had to test it out so yeah yeah

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you gotta see what it looks like

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on a tv

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and it looks great so that'll be in the booth i'm assuming is where that's gonna be that's yeah okay

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that's

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so good so if you are a dev connect and you're doing cool stuff drop it in the dev connect channel and it will be scrolling into the booth at the farcaster booth very cool we're like that's like so like i don't know the farcaster booth sounds so funny to me considering dan's anti conference stance is just it's just funny it's just funny it's great yeah but it's funny and i do think

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this i heard dan might come

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i did not hear that i heard dan is definitely not coming

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i heard he's considering it in the same way you're considering

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it oh okay i was gonna say i don't think he is i am i i guarantee you i will have fomo at certain moments but also i'll have jomo that i didn't have to do that ridiculous flight so anyway moving on this from horse facts via via a few other people i have a strict no manifesto policy but if you don't you can sign right from your warplet in this mini app from zeni.eath and this is the trustless manifesto from joab weisz vitalik buterin and marissa posner so i have not had a chance to read it and i need to read it before i sign anything so i haven't looked at this yet but very cool i saw vitalik posting this earlier this week and then the mini app was added permissionlessly there you go welcome to permissionless things we like that i

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was like first i saw it and i was like oh was zenni did zenni help write the manifesto and realized no he just put a mini app wrapper

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on it that's it

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it is a main net main net signature so sometimes that's always fun to transact on main net but you can sign it from your warplet you just need a little bit of main net eth for gas which you may or may not have

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yeah i'm like i don't know if i have that i may have to go the regular one

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she had 25 i i think she had updated maybe there were 25,000 signatures as of last night i like horse facts no manifesto policy i think people have been

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very similar

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like i'm shocked that you got 25,000 people in crypto to sign any kind of manifesto

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i see i see it's very impressive

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because i guarantee you there's a lot of people like me at horseback who immediately went wait i need a minute to process i can't i don't sound

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did you see vitalik and sachs fighting on twitter this week

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i did well i saw a comment from sachs and i did not follow-up to see if vitalik had responded because he got he got looped into something really stupid from what my perspective vitalik did into something that david was saying and i was like what that doesn't even make any sense and so i i didn't see the response but that's good i'll have to go check it out i'll have to go dive in

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i was like is this manifesto in response to that did you whip it up really quick were you doing it anyway anyway

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because i i saw a few things and i was just like okay first of all lumping metallic and spf into anything together is just like you immediately lose all credibility immediately like no just stop what are you even doing alright moving on this from w m's i just saw this and i was like oh i gotta grab this one farcaster christmas wish list rtmp support for live streaming public private lists x post to x so cross posting to twitter is how i would put that schedule post token gated post so a lot of these you can kind of do right now but using other clients so like some of these not all of them like cross posting you can scheduling a post you can with bonds i would love to see you know live streaming support direct native support of course that would kill a couple of mini apps so sorry about that but that would be better for distribution but i can understand why they may not take that on because i don't think it necessarily drives the growth they're looking for so we'll see and then like the token gated posts you can kinda do that in channels in a way but they're not completely token gated so that one feels like it could be done fairly easily i'm not sure though at least at a client level i don't know how hard it would be at a protocol level like that would be tough i think but you could do it at a client level i think where it would so you'd have

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to post right or is this token gated to view a post is this kind of a paper view model

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yeah i was taking it like that like token gated to view token gated to post you can do now like with channels with certain channels so i don't know interesting what's on your christmas

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people people like retake

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we won't take out the retake we won't take out the retake i know that's why i said that would be bad for

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me but give us the shiny circles at

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the top yeah honestly that's what i need that's all i need i don't care where it is like if it's like just an indicator that we're on live on retake but it's an indicator that's yeah just little circles at the top like i'm good i'm good with however that gets incorporated but i do think it would be helpful for distribution so there you go this from emily did you see this little craziness so emily had posted i think my x account might be nuked i use yubikey two fa two factor have for years was prompted by x a week ago to update my key by the way i love that he actually makes the effort to grab that particular x while he's typing this over here on farcaster i just find that hilarious a week ago to update my key which i did then today got a pop up prompt in x to update my yubikey again no option given had to update to get back to my account update again let me in for one second then the update yubikey screen disappeared so if you're using yubikey or any hardware 2fa on twitterx i would suggest you removing the auth and settings asap before you get the same prompt i got and there's i saw this a lot over the past few days there's quite a few people mentioning this so be careful out there and also dan did you talk to somebody at twitter and say can you block the yuma key so they have to come use farcaster more

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just kidding

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i wonder if farcaster did farcaster get a bump this week or what

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oh no i don't know that

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was just that's the first thing i was thinking is who who did this who was who did this

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let me bring up my next group of links we do have some builders building fun things that we need to talk about there's been some some interesting things happening over on that aspect of it even though it's been a little bit quiet okay come on i had these open too why aren't they opening open for me

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still 311 episodes late by the way i was so tempted because it's episode three eleven to just like throw some three eleven music in that's all i kept thinking is all mixed up and stuck in my head for there for a little bit totally aging myself tremendously but you guys are not present

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in a long time my

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in a minute yeah i love three eleven

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so i went down this like whole thing i was like oh it's episode three eleven and i was like oh i was alluded to three eleven while i was getting finishing it up oh hello three eleven

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anyway moving on this from jacek welcome to the dgenhub tip earn connect own available now invite only download now so this is the new dgen mini not mini app app client that is now available for everyone asking about invite codes this is from jacek we'll be rolling them out to everyone on the waitlist over the next few days users in the app will also get their own codes to share with others soon so go check that out make sure you share any feedback with jacek as they continue to approve this but congrats to finally getting it approved from the apple store this from heesh glaze corp mini app walkthrough okay so i saw this glaze corp thing all over my feed and i was like what the heck is this because i went in and i went all right i need an explainer and then there was one so if you haven't seen if you've been seeing donuts on your feed this is related there's some really interesting mechanics here so stepping back for a second i you know obviously i come from the nouns ecosystem of auctions and all that so playing around with different auction mechanics and all these different things so i found this very interesting it's you know it kind of pulls a little bit from inspiration from qr i'm sure so this is the glazery when you open the app you're on the main glazery screen at the very top you see king glazer right now that's plur eth this is the only person mining doughnut at any given time so that's the person who's currently i think has the auction bid so that's who the glazer is and they're earning a particular token while they're while they have the winning bid and then it's coming down in price because it's a dutch auction style so it starts high goes down during that hour so how do you become king glazer you have to glaze by paying the current glaze price in eth as soon as you do a few things happen you become new king glazer glazer glaze price you paid instantly pumps 2x 80% of the eth goes directly to the last king glazer but here's the catch the new two x price immediately starts dropping back down to 0 eth over one hour this is a dutch auction so this is very long but go check it out it's different it's definitely a little different it's a little like i kind of looked and then like stepped away because i was like complexity don't have time and then when i read this i was like oh this is interesting it's an interesting experiment a different approach to things you know some different approach to using the tokens interesting just interesting experiment go check it out the other thing i thought was cool is that it's a protocol so it's there's a couple different clients that are looking at the same auction which also i thought was interesting that's interesting you know so there's like a lot of different interesting aspects to it so you have a whole different client or mini app that has the same auction but a a little different format and this is totally stupid but i really loved it you can change the doughnut

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you can decorate the doughnut so i found that to be quite fun so that was my that was my entertainment

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i was like oh you can check i'm like what do these

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buttons do this is what these buttons do so anyway enjoy enjoy just want new fun things

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alright moving on and i would say read that before you do any bidding or anything so you fully understand what you're getting into this from our friend perp snapshot has been taken hab's launch will be 11:14 which is today at 11:30am cst 09:30 pst which is 12:30 est hooks expected to roll out by 11:28 we will be we'll be rolling out a proposal in a few that will address some redundancies in hooks allocate funds for some initial marketing push creation of community coin fund focused on supporting projects launched by dao members and compensation for dev work already done hook architecture deployment of hooks and mini app and a year's worth of maintenance and quality of life improvements focused on boosting participation and volume and adds to buyback mechanics at hook level big thanks to ruminations jeff goldberg zero x habesab and his team linda and the farcaster team dish moon poppy and lebster mindset it's been a real team effort getting this project together and really excited to see the results so this is related to dollar sign habs which is coming from the haberdashery which was a fork or an not a fork but an additional dao added to the original degen dao so there's a lot of things we're gonna actually dive into the all of the info on this on monday so basically the data that's backing the airdrop and i think you've just casted about it so let me see if i can grab that real quick so i'm excited to chat with ruminations and jeff because i think that's gonna give us some interesting takes on how they're helping teams who are launching tokens create airdrops that make sense and do different data analysis that makes a lot that likes a lot more sense did you launch that from jamfarcaster or from jamfarcaster jamfarcaster okay i wasn't sure if it was adrian or gm forecaster okay there we go so we have ruminations jeff goldberg on monday so make sure you are here they will be on at noon we'll start at 11:30 and i think it's going to be a really interesting chat with them and if you are digendao or haberdashery look for more information about the launch today

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and i apparently am like i don't know number eight or something on this list which i found i was like what how oh how is the is the question we're gonna have answered on monday so i did chat with jeff a little bit and just go through some data points to he was showing me just a little bit more info about it and it was super interesting so really excited he's like okay now i have to do this forty five minute walk through in ten minutes i'm like yes you do so he's he's figuring it out but i'm excited it's gonna be interesting so for all the nerds data nerds monday is your day this from our friend matthew fox this is why we can't have trivia because they've been busy so clankermon had a big update so introducing the mon exchange the clankermon marketplace for trading mons in game and that was the big one also the first new location in the city so the the clankermon universe if you will so now you can trade directly in there which is very cool because it's otherwise you have to you know you go to like opensea and stuff like that and it's a little less this will be more you'll see a lot more trading happening i think and then he also said we also snuck in the first leg of our redesign as part of this latest update making your mons the first thing you see in the app cc antimo fm i think was the inspiration for this he he tends to you know provide some feedback people take action on everything you need in one screen bringing you closer to the characters then the city brings you closer to the world one location at a time brick brick brick and i loved i don't know if you saw this the better mon now has a poke is on a poker table with poker chips little shout out to burr so love that very cute so this is exciting go play clinker mon keep your keep your mons alive if you can adrian

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dead baby mons you can you can revive it

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you can revive it

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i won't

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you are so close just revive it then you get to get a cute little reveal with a with a big mon

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alright not happening i will cheer all you clanker monitors on and i will not be playing

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such a waste such a waste

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i'm sorry

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somebody grab her phone clanker re this is from m j c seven sixteen clanker reintroducing spotlight a product studio building on the frontiers of internet capital markets read on for more about the vision the spotlight token and the airdrop don't know what icm is literally no one does anyone claims they do is lie you're just seeing yourself but that's what's so fun about building on the frontier you get to do the rugged work of exploration and discovery we've been building on farecaster and ct for close to two years now launching a new project every few months so continuing on bottom line they're gonna have different token exchanges finally we're dropping our first project now in this very first post in both an in feed airdrop program and mini app experience excited to announce the spotlight museum of art we've allocated 5% of token supply to collect 1,001 pieces across 29 nft collections on base the pieces will be enshrined in our permanent collection they cannot be transferred or sold contribute an nft piece and receive an airdrop follow the instructions in the mini app to participate so very cool i love this idea and i still haven't had a chance to go take a look but i do need to look and see what they're looking for and i may contribute as well i'm not here's the problem here's what's going to happen okay base colors i can contribute i'm going to look through this list and go i don't want to give that up i don't want to let that go no no that one's mine because you know i like my collection so we'll see what i'm willing to actually give up it's gonna be it's gonna be hard especially if i only have one of something like i'm not giving up i'm not giving up my gentleman i only have two

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i don't give anything up i know you always taught me like you used to mint in threes yes so you had you know so that you would have things to either give what'd you say one for you one to give away

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one to share one to sell it's one yeah one to share one to sell one to one to give away yeah one to share one to keep one to share one to sell so and i do that with most but there's some that i haven't done that so you can tell like it shows you how many you have of the things they're looking for and there's things like there's no way i'm giving up my outcast

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yeah my optimists maybe i might i might be willing to give up one of those like i don't have a lot of some of these dx terminal i have a lot base paint i have a lot so there's some i i'm totally willing to give so i'll have to have to go through and give some up like for i was doing that with base paint for a while and that's actually bit that strategy has paid off well because i've been able to sell some i've been able to give some away so this is gonna be perfect i can definitely contribute to that alright and plus they're different all of them are so different so it's like i own a lot it says like i own like 107 but they're all so different so that's how i justify those purchases anyway moving on this from propaganda drops is now live for everyone we had talked about this last week but i wanted to actually show the mini app as well earn token cashback on dozens of products with new products listed daily drops expands the utility of anycoin to commerce enabling teams to do more with their tokens and support their community a new commerce experience powered by boost so this was when it was still the wait list but i think let's see i think it changed over yeah so let me make this a little bigger so you can see so now it does have products listed so i think when we showed it before it was still just the wait list but it does have products now and if you scroll down you shall see a particular product that you might be interested in oh by the way debbie's book

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is shout out to debbie

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go get that book if you don't own this book go get this book this is actually a great book for great gift for christmas or whatever holiday so check that out what do we got there what do we got there we've got the gm forecaster mug so you can get this mug but you have to move quickly because you can only get the deal for i think there's only six left that are in the deal and it won't say this part it's the only part that's missing because this you could only get when you were at our episode 100 but it's everything but that part and it's cute and we use it all the time so there you go go get your money so you get a discount on it you earn some casto token and really cool new concept for commerce before we go i guess

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we were dropping this next week

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i know but it was already there and people already bought it

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is this a presale

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i guess so like i'm like i better

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i'm just for people who bought

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a mug i'm like people already bought so i better i better mention it because

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it's going fast man

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everybody wants

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the mug by the way you you will still buy the mug after the 10 and these are like the the the 10 cast out gift bags

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these are the 10 that get a little yeah get the cast out back so we may have to give them some more because they might i mean it's it's it's hot this year yeah

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i mean in this economy an item what else what else can you afford

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in this economy but it's really cool like there's a lot of cool stuff here that they have on here and i love the little you get the the token back a little cashback if you will a little token back got too silly hat i love that so yeah go check it out moving on let me go back to my other layout here here we go this from debbie i thought this was interesting crypto rails are perfect for agentic payments but most merchants still don't accept them x four zero two fixes this by letting apps and agents attach a payment directly to an api call our new recipe makes it easier than ever to use x four zero two with privy wallets and then she goes on to talk about for x four zero two two unlocks new payment patterns usage based api pricing per inference or per query billing machine payable content autonomous agent to agent payments and i think that's the big big piece here that it's unlocking true pay per resource access instead of subscriptions three with privvy you don't need to learn the four zero two spec call a single hook pick the wallet and spend limit and privvy handles the full payment loop our onramps and policyengine also make it easy to find wallets and set safe spend limits for automatic automated payments and then four this is just the beginning four zero two gives apps and agents a universal language for payments and we're excited to see what developers build as the ecosystem grows learn more and start building with the latest recipe so if you are interested in building something with four zero two if you have an agent and you're looking to do something here's a lot more information for that i just found this very interesting and useful it gave me a little bit more understanding of what exactly four zero two is so very cool this from

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a zero x bot oops there it is a zero x bot see you this friday today at 02:30pm eastern for a special conversation between bv daniel and jesse pollock where we'll talk about what's coming for jesse xbt and a0x and how jesse's clone is changing the way builders are building on base if you're building this live is for you so turn on the reminder here so that'll be over on twitter and that i think is going to be really interesting if you want to learn more this is the agent that jesse launched that that essentially he helped build so that he could be in more places at once right there's just not enough jesse to go along

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right i mean the idea of it's like kind of the clone it's like the these agents that are mirrored after actual people and

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right i haven't played around with it enough i need to get an idea i need to get a better feeling if if it really has this personality i don't know if it does

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have you interacted yet

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no but i think people are and they they seem to be really liking it

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i think it's i mean it's definitely a great idea and i think it's something we're gonna see a lot more of because it's just helpful and related

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related to that have you seen kobe over on twitter

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yeah i've seen you cast about kobe on twitter i have a little bit yeah

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every time i go over i i see something for him i it's like it's hilarious it's hilarious so they okay so they paid 25,000,000 for eight episodes of the of the pod of up only and they paid what was it 250,000,000 or something like that for echo and kobe's doing customer service it's just awesome it's awesome so every time i go in there he's doing like legit customer service he's helping people resolve things they've been having problems with for like a month or longer all these issues so he's actually unlocking a lot of things over there but this was really funny too from ledger i need coinbase support to fix this because btc hit ninety day low they said change the currency to lira and the price looks higher it's like good suggestion there you go but yeah it's been really funny because i i swear if you just mentioned customers of coinbase support he appears the way like metamask bots used to

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yeah what if it's a kobi what if it's a kobi bot what if it's a kobi x b t

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that would be interesting that's what they should build by the way but then the kobe xpt actually has to have agency to fix the thing and that's the problem that's the problem you need to actually be able to fix the problem alright we've got one last thing to talk about and that is cast out we have finished up we had our final tribe challenge on whatever day that was tuesday with remix and it was a lot of fun the aptos two team took it and we kind of recapped this on wednesday so they were the winners but then we did one final vote within that tribe for an mvp and ivan was the winner of that so all prizes have been distributed and i want to just shout out again our sponsors because they were just amazing to join us here so we had clanker splits aptos and purple and we've talked a lot about clanker so i think everyone's fully aware of them aptos we did a lot of chatting about when we went to aptos experience so if you haven't explored the aptos ecosystem yet definitely go check that out it's like a whole different world over there very much focused on sort of real world application of crypto and that's how i would take it i don't know if would you agree yeah purple we love purple purple's a dao that's been built on nounsbuilder has been supporting builders on farcaster since november 2022 so almost three years it's like three years very soon i think in a couple maybe like in a week so thank you to purple for your continuous support they have been a sponsor for every season of cast out except for like i think the very first one but we had people from purple playing we just didn't ask for any funds at that point so thank you purple for once again supporting not only us but it also helps to support the builders that we featured so it kind of gives a even broader broader look there

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hold on i gotta change my background

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okay i was like what are you doing

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i'm changing

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and then last

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purple this is my accent purple token background

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we love accent

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purple dot construction if you want one

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yeah go check it out yeah go check out purple dot construction if you wanna contribute to the treasury the way this works it's an auction you're purchasing a token and what that means is that you then have a vote every token is a vote in how the funds are spent and let me just pull that up right now so purple dot construction or you can also find it on nouns.build and there is a mini app that you can use to bid etcetera but you can also just go to purple.construction and check it out so right now this beautiful arch looking one does not have any bids

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another arch

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might have to grab it that was that face yes alright and lastly oh no hold on hold on i need to get my hat for this last time to wear the hat oh no my logo fell off hold on let me re put it back on last chance to wear this hat

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i'm just saying if i if i'm will or abram i'm i'm not happy that you're doing that that you don't have a real hat i think you're me a hat i think you're cheapening the splits brand

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i am not cheapening the splits brand what i'm saying is if they made a hat i'd wear it all the time i got it so i did what i had to do i did what i had to do so we love splits like splits is amazing we've been using them since january it's a great the teams tool is a great way to sort of organize your funds if you're running a business on crypto and you should definitely explore that so and we we just learned recently that you can then pay people by just typing in their forecaster name how did we not know that until toady told us i who's just been using it for like a week been using it since january we missed that update so anyway thank you splits we love you you're gonna get to see them i think in argentina is that correct yeah i

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don't know if they're all going down i think i know will is so we'll see that

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okay great i know you were gonna try to do some interviews are you did you get that lined up or

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yes okay i have yes i i actually booked podcast space for tuesday in buenos aires at la raul which is the main dev connect event space so i have an hour to record i have no one to interview yet we need to fix this we have about four days to line up my guests where are you people who am i interviewing yeah we'll figure

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out how quick it will he would be a great person to interview if you can get him get him in there if he's available that would be awesome because i'd love to see see an interview with him we we need to get them on here in general just to chat because they just have a very cool very cool product that people need to know more about and you should try and get limone too because he's doing so much down there if he's available

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i'll interview you yesterday i just need to

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you just need to fly around to argentina

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i just need to get him there

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you just need to get him to argentina

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alright what else is that it i think that's it did i miss anything adrianne i see a lot of our players in here

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yeah

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cast out was fun i think i you know just to reiterate i the goals of cast out is to showcase what's great about farcaster mini apps social games i think it's really cool we had the biggest prize pool this year

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yeah

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i think also prize pool can bring out even more competitive nature in players so hopefully to everyone who played that you had fun you kept the spirit of the game in in intact and ralph is taking a deep breath right now

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it's been a long time

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feelings happen it's you know so just the reminder players play there we put up different rules for how to play and players will exploit and kinda figure out because they wanna win they wanna win hopefully remember it's just a game we are all friends we have to stay friends we want farcaster to be a wholesome place but hopefully everyone had fun i think prop needs a vacation after running this last round

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and if we if we do it again and this right now is an if because i'm like it's been a lot it's been a lot but if we do it again definitely would make some changes and unfortunately i think that means taking out the the challenges that were problematic and that is the ones that require basically a vote from you know

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it requires engagement yeah or social right because it's like it's too easy to yeah gamify social and you know and i know we've done it in the past where we've changed the engagement metrics based on kind of number of followers and whatnot but it is hard so maybe it ends up being more just kinda skill based games and by the way there's so many of them now like there's so many mini apps

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and those worked well like mhmm cody game was fantastic for this like it really worked well the remix the way we did that one worked out very well he did mention we were supposed to have an actual tournament but it didn't we didn't get it done in time he wasn't able to put it together in time but he mentioned chuck stock mentioned that they're gonna have like an option where you'll be able to create it yourself which would be fantastic yoink we always love we always like yoink trivia was great we we had a couple challenges where people couldn't get in so that was a little that looked a little bad

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and we ran this i mean i think when we first ran this you expected not to get in play like you expected things to break

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i know

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so you were much more forgiving and this is what we always say about like go build on farcaster because everyone's really forgiving yeah don't expect apparently i guess farfetch'd has gotten a lot better over the eighteen months since we first ran it and it's like now you expect things to work so it's

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it's really your fault for expecting things to work

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right well we we don't expect things to work so i don't know it's

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loopholes and well you know why because i didn't anticipate the way some people would play the game

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right but that's why we didn't have so

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if i can't anticipate the role i need to make it's hard to make the rule

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we don't have a legal team guys we do yeah i right you are everything so massive props to you professor because it really is i mean i am a a supporting character to a supporting character to a supporting character like it really is like you put so much it's great sweat tears into making cast out a success so

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i mean but also bravo to you you just got a app the mini app was awesome it was such a good addition to the game like i loved having it i think the other issue is i'll probably take out brackie next time because it just we've tried it a few different different ways mhmm to make it work and it just isn't there isn't a truly fair way to do it people are always gonna miss the live stream there's always insider information that because the players just know what's happening before everybody else so there was like just too many too many issues with that and there were yeah bad feelings on that and i hate that i hate that i don't wanna take it out but i think it

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the idea of brackie problematic the idea of brackie is amazing because it's like oh you bring in

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people to

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play that aren't playing except yeah i don't know yeah

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but there's the problem is they said then they gotta pay attention right which is why we thought it was a good thing but there's too much

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potential for even before we announce something for people to know what's happening in the background so too much potential for like insider insider deals insider baseball

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unfortunately so i that's just another thing i i would not want to but i feel like it's one of those things that i don't i can't figure out a way to make it fully fair

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right i mean you almost wanna make it so it's like you know you pick pick your team pick your tribe and you can't stay like it's not a market i mean that was like yeah you know that's the big innovation of brackey is it's a real time market which is great except for something like this it's like a way for someone to get in make a little bet on a tribe and then just kind of like yeah

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do

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that for your tribe i don't know yeah

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i don't know we'll have to think about it a little bit a little bit more and see if there's a better way to approach it so anyway lots of learning

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like it's just a game right like of all things like this isn't like it's a game just a game it's just a game people

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but also let me just tell you the first brac the first cast out we did it was the i called it the beta mhmm we had it was an individual game you had tribes in the beginning and then it became an individual game so we did it more closer to survivor there was only 10,000 dgen on the line that was it and it started dropping in value as the game was going on so it was like not a whole lot when all was said and done and even then everyone was very competitive but not to a not to the level that i saw this time but like even then people were pretty competitive there were still some little hurt feelings like it was it's funny so i think there's just a you know the people who are gonna play are gonna be competitive like yeah so it's it's hard to to know how to navigate that we do in a way that

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we're doing a live stream post mortem right now

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pretty much yeah yeah i mean i do need to have some chats with people i know a lot of the feedback just from watching the game and seeing it in you know live and and just experiencing it but i do wanna there's a few people i wanna chat with just to get more about what happened in the background because that's the stuff that i'm not as privy to yeah so but i you know i think that in the end like having the three teams compete in the remix was a good move mhmm instead of just two because that was originally the thought was i was gonna have two voted out and i was like i feel like this has gotten too crazy so that's why i did it that way but anyway

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my my favorite comment from the crowd by the way because we have a lot of people in the comments yeah one thank you to sponsors i'm very glad the sponsors took no strays like everybody was very

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don't take strays

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sponsors put up the prize money we love the sponsors and they really do like sponsors so that's great thank you so a lot of love in the chat right now for sponsors my favorite comment of all from jeez mike definitely was an experience

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yes it was sir yes it was

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i yes it was at one point yeah you

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captured it

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yes it was yeah more than one occasion i was talking to various people they were like i think i'm just gonna shut my account down i'm like please don't do that

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several people in the group chat several people in private islands were like i'm gonna delete my farcaster account i'm done i'm done with farcaster by the way

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that's the opposite of the i don't wanna work anymore

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whole point of cast out is to showcase what's great about farcaster and work and people are quitting

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don't do that wait like wait just take don't touch the grass and come back and decide later

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yeah i really felt like and i think it's i think looking back and kinda seeing which which games were unproblematic and making sure we double down on those types is gonna be the best move so like cody game is like that was perfection it really was because it's like completely out of my hands i have no idea what the you know like i don't have the code like all of that it just works very well and remix works very well it's a hard

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and that's like a hard challenge

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it's hard it's it you can win better if you work with your tribe together like you have to work if you work together you're have way more chance of being successful so it's like a perfect tribe cast out challenge so

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you know i know one of the challenges you considered was having tribes launch a clinker yes aren't you glad you didn't so glad

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so so glad so so

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so glad for all the reasons

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for all the reasons yeah loved cody i loved cody too it was good cody was a great one that was a great new addition i loved the emerge challenge like i loved the outputs like i think they did fantastic so much creativity i loved seeing everything it just we just ran into issues with how how hard people were playing so anyway so yeah massive shout out do a

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i guess you could do a emerge try emerge challenge but and people are welcome to you know try to get engagement because by the way you you get engagement you can get paid right you get splits on the on the mint fees

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yep

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but we could do a panel of judges

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that was the other thing i was thinking

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give it to the sponsors to judge like oh you know like this or whoever like have a

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have a judge signed based on creative secret judges right so so

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no one gets but whatever it is have have someone judge based on creativity yeah forecaster native whatever and then yeah if like you could take the engagement out because engagement is too hard like it's too easy to

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this is true by the way the team the tribe that won i had no issues with they were very unplug problematic i don't know if they were problematic in

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the background but

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in terms of what i had to deal with like i did not have any i think that was the tribe that the least amount of issues and drama so oh that's interesting worked very well together and there you go and that's how it you know that's how it does oop took do chaos exactly and

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and feelings and feelings

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we did we kinda i gotta tell you cast out the beta was kind of celebrity cast out it was kind of that because it was all the like farcaster celebrities played

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kinda was but no one was even yeah

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there was there was there

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were actually were 37 people in the network then though

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yeah exactly

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oh this would be so interesting what if we did like a crypto twitter celebrity cast out

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you're bringing in a very interesting you're adding an interesting element to the to the mix that may or may not work well

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did you just see your face when i mentioned i you're i i know you're even debating you're never doing the like you're i said i'm never running this again

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people's faces came to my head when you said that and it like that's what you saw in my face yeah like that would be fun like team and airy team linda like folks like that yeah

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right i guess you could have t like celebrity coaches

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yeah

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celebrity tribes that

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maybe okay maybe yeah

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i'm gonna let i'm gonna let you take a little vacation

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yeah or oh you know that was a good idea

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mhmm

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ai judge

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yeah interesting right

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that's an interesting idea yeah so we're yeah

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we're just gonna spt yeah to judge

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it he judges it

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yeah we need to take a little bit of a break so we've been doing cast out usually like twice a year so far we'll we'll take some time i had envisioned that we would go again in like march april time frame mhmm pre farcon post east denver we'll see we'll see okay okay i don't know i was thinking about this like you know how women say they're never having another kid and then they do i'm one of those women who had one

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because you know

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so that doesn't that analogy doesn't necessarily work yeah i could be i could be done with four we'll see i love aquias that was funny you guys did great we were the problem children no you weren't you really were

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no we love our children

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we love all the children

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we love all our children

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yeah and so we've we yeah we'll we'll i've thought of a bunch of different things like that cast out builder mini apps i thought about that and i actually talked to the nanar team about that as a potential challenge but their their thing wasn't ready yet for public it's still in beta so that's a way that you can basically no code create a mini app using just their ai tool it's not quite there yet but that was another thought that i had as a challenge and it just wasn't there but that would be another one that i think yeah we just have to shift anything like that into a judge mode it has to be like judge the judge we're gonna have to have judges yeah it gets too gamed and it gets we

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don't trust you to self judge we can't

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tell you we don't we can't trust you anymore this

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actually though i mean it it is reminiscent and good like to how watching dan and varun build in public in the early days of farcaster which was if we tell you how we're labeling people as spam you're gonna like people are coming to farm leaderboard rewards people are coming to farm potential airdrops so if you know the metrics then you'll gamify them you know you can kind of exploit them so it's like we can't tell he's like i can't tell we we're not telling you how

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because if we do we'll

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yeah yeah so that's kind of like if we tell you what the rules are of like the engagement you'll figure out a way to

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which continuously happens yeah every time we change it up a little bit alright every time i'm i probably would have been better off saying no rules than creating rules that people tried to get around

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right but you're trying to make level you're trying to make a level playing field you don't want people to play pay to win exactly

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well that's the other thing i get very concerned about and this is like me in general and this is why we don't have a you can't buy your way in to play cast out you have to apply we get sponsors who pay to pay for the team so that we can have a prize pool etcetera is because i don't want people putting a lot of funds in to play and then having a bad experience or it's just another pressure for me and another thing i'll feel bad about if it

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doesn't so

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nownish professor xbt would go hard sure yeah yeah we should i was i also just needed an intern i needed either that or an intern or both so like a like just a intern for two weeks who just could monitor the chats better because that was what was so time consuming and just making sure i was giving them answers quickly too because you can't it's time sensitive some of these things right

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yeah they have a question about how a game works and yeah yeah so

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no no to crypto x b t yes yes please alright

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okay we did go over twenty nine minutes

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we of course we did

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yeah apologize

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yeah we're

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exactly sorry for keeping you late

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the first rule of cast out is don't talk about cast out rules yeah exactly i should have just been like there are no rules but i i was trying to save you all from yourselves didn't work didn't work yeah so we went over we'll be back on monday at 11:30am eastern we have jeff and ruminations will be joining us on monday we'll be talking data all the cool data stuff what's that what was that

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can we show our can we show our video oh we're gonna show a video before we we yeah we have a i forgot we have a live live premiere

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live premiere this will be the last thing

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yes our live stream eats first we'll post to forecaster later but we can end don't don't forget the video if you have no

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idea i forgot

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otherwise i'll you do that i'll do the announcements morning announcements for next week's schedule we have jeff and ruminations coming on monday we're doing our later time show 11:30 eastern and then we're off no more shows for this rest of the week because i'll be in buenos aires for dev connect

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exactly yeah so she's she's leaving me so i am taking a vacation for a couple days so i may even not cast for a couple days you know it's not gonna happen

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i mean alright

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here we go this is our new video clip that just dropped from push enjoy everybody smile at the same time so we can get a really good picture together

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okay good actually i wanna just take a quick step back to ham

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there was a point where it was everywhere and i still never quite figured it out

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there was two camps those that understood ham and those that did not

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it was never about the meat i always found the pictures of meat gross

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so you know we're just playing around you know doing the silly stuff and it eventually led to bankr like doing all that work in the social feed is what kinda led to bankr so a lot of that experience translated over

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where's the best place for people to go if they wanna learn about banker like where's the best place to start

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you know the best place to start is actually just asking banker what it can do

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just ask banker or just ask banker everybody smile at the same time so we can get a really good picture together so that is our latest clip from push coming to your feed right now so it'll be able to feed it'll be on twitter it'll be everywhere on tiktok if you're not following us on all those places please go follow us on all the places we are gm farcaster everywhere so go give us a follow we appreciate you all right adrienne is that it thank you for that reminder because i totally forgot so thank you for that all right we will see you on monday 11:30 a m eastern 08:30 a m pst and until then everyone have a fabulous weekend happy friday and buh bye

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thanks for joining us for this episode of gm farcaster and thank you to all our partners and hyper sub supporters bringing this episode to you follow the gm farcaster channel for all the latest updates and add our mini app on farcaster and the base app until next time bye bye