Transcript: When Your Wallet Needs a Marie Kondo Moment: GM Farcaster ep279

NounishProf, adrienne · GM Farcaster

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i don't think i ever told anybody that we had a show today i don't know people surely know that but i literally didn't post about it so i'm gonna go do that right this second because i did not cast about it yesterday it's all okay you know why i set it up too far in advance so you do your notice i'm gonna do my notice because yeah nobody knows we're here because we did not tell them isn't that hilarious yeah because i usually don't set them up that far in advance and i did this time and then i forgot to post about it so yeah we're going to do a little different live now

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join us

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get in here

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and youtube

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while we're waiting for people to come i will oh

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come on we have our bestie

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mika knows

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we love you knows

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brad q knows he he announced it for us

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thank you thank you brad

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we prat and

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i were

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just in our in our green room talking and i wanted to tell you that we should try to do a short show because there's so many things i wanna talk to you about in private today

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sorry people sorry we've got things

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to talk about we gotta cut it straight

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we're gonna stick to oh i cannot believe

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i've i have been really off my game this week i'm really messed up from the start of class which i have really messed up so it's just you know not going great not going great this week

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most of our country actually starts school now pre like in august yeah i know that's like and maybe it's like colleges were always a little earlier than all the high schools started doing offering ap courses so then they shifted earlier our school is proudly a post labor day starting school

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i gotta tell you i think that's better yes it's the best

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like you know what down here

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down here it doesn't matter that much because we don't do a whole lot with labor day and stuff like that so it's not as big of a deal but up north yes i totally agree with that absolutely okay let's get started but let's give a quick little preview of the new sound effects that you have to those you know very few who are already in here before we let everybody else know we're live

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i was listening to t t vpn and

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and cheers

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we had like air horns like woody was famous for doing what

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do

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you super tight what do you do in the air horn all those things and we've never done it in here because it felt a little

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alright i just lost your volume

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you know why because i touched the thing by accident and it turned off

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you're a mess

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just like i did yesterday i'm a mess i'm a freaking mess

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wait what what say the word you were gonna say you don't don't do them here because they cringe

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are cringe yeah but i like cringe so go for it

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okay mama's had enough

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i mean right that's a new fact you may you may hear that on occasion

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that is i need something that's not that's like when adrian's face lol times test yes it's like i can give the face i can be a little eye rolly and skeptical but then you're gonna push me to enough and then i also added this one

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token do what would the token do what would the token do

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so like i cannot wait for i really wish dan was here this morning because i would love we're we're fully background all about him we've got the set and board ready for him dan we just need you that's the only thing we're missing right now

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does dan listen to our show does anyone know

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we don't

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because i have a message i need to get out to him

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come on the show yeah he's not checking his dms he's very busy looking at these beautiful backgrounds he is he's he's busy all right we're gonna get started i'm gonna let's let's kick this off now that we're everybody knows we're actually here today okay

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we had a yeah a four minute intro because we're

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yeah we're a little off today alright here we go we'll see you on the other side

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welcome to gm farcaster bringing you everything from breaking news to spicy memes to the deep lore shaping this vibrant digital community more than just a show gm farcaster is your digital third space where the community connects the stories unfold and the culture thrives whether you're a daily caster or just dropping by we've got the latest buzz to keep you plugged in so grab your coffee and let's dive in with your hosts nanish propp and adrianne for another episode of gm farcaster

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gm farcaster it is wednesday august 20 and you are here with now the shroff and adrian for i i'm not even gonna say it because i don't think it's gonna be 29 but we can give it a shot because adrienne would like us to get done early because she has things that she doesn't want to tell you people that she needs to talk to me about but anyway we have so many i don't know the timeline feels very fun right now to me but i didn't i don't know there's i don't know anyway i'm having an off week but the timelines have been a little bit of fun so our backgrounds you may may look familiar this is not any this is not a photo we took but our friend dan did and this is how it started dwr already know my photo tonight is going to annoy the hell out of phil and here it is here's the photo the photo came out and that is in our backgrounds right now in the beautiful lovely new england landscape and then we got this from phil congrats happy for you nice but by the way the kid's wearing the the nantucket red dance too in the photo which is kind of perfect and then this from phil to follow it up might have to start west coast posting just to clap back at dan's new england nancy myers fantasies

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and then i love good night down eight thirty nines it's not slop our boy might be just the next martha stewart martha stewart let's fucking go

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okay so i don't know

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what's going on with dan but he's having a lovely summer he's having a lovely vacation back back in his home state nuts

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also if you haven't seen the martha stewart documentary on netflix go watch or hbo or whatever it's on i i don't know what i actually don't know what it's on but go watch that it so good

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one of my favorite have you ever seen the movie the other woman no if you haven't you you should it's hilarious and it's cameron diaz is in it anyways there's a moment where they're talking about martha stewart they're like she took that like a boss

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like what her sentencing

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yeah yeah yeah she didn't she didn't whine she took it like a boss i'm like

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i mean listen it it's like yeah you gotta see the documentary she's a beast

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she's totally totally like oh yeah yeah like she has this

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classic like whatever they called this deep like your own perception like you know your own reality bubble yeah like yeah we all need those amazing

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sounds right sounds about

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right okay that can be

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a little dangerous depending on if you're you know leaders of the free world yeah if you're just a random celebrity that's fine

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i love that i love these casts because i didn't totally understand what was going on like what exactly is the dynamic but it's still funny and anyone can kind of jump in and that's kind of

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the best it got it got really it's a funny little i like you know watching them kind of go at each other it's been it's been fun i also love this from ramsey i just happened to see this this morning it was really funny dan and v looking at twitter back in 2020 i'm going to build my own twitter with crypto and hookers well not hookers but we're going to have thirst traps and we're not even we don't even have many of those i really don't like our version of thirst trap background see the backgrounds

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landscapes landscapes the nature channel goes off

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pops just pops off

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have you seen mountain monday or a water wednesday on our desk

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i enjoy tree tuesday quite a bit by the way i did and i didn't pull this and i should have a priyanka's trees yesterday beautiful on tree tuesday but anyway yeah i just thought that was really funny ramsey you crack me up this from now let's get into some actual actual news maybe come on you can do it i know you can i love it when this happens i'm telling you i've had quite a week so it's it's it's continuing at this moment alright here we go here's what's going on new token pages tap into a token to get a summary of everything you need to know to decide whether to buy pages now show you detailed price charts people who've also bought launcher and creator so launcher being something like clanker or what's that what's that pill one pump dot fun i just couldn't think for a second to fill one and then creator being the person who actually launched the token which right now pretty much you're just seeing that from clanker quick links to x website and other social easy buy sell send buttons lore summary there's also i think there were links to like coingecko and dexscreener and things like that so and then shout shout out to blockheim for significantly leveling up this page from the design design looks great there are some little icons which they haven't given us a legend for these icons but you'll see like there's a shield and we still don't know what the shield actually means but there's like you'll see the pump dot fun little pill thing you'll see the clanker you'll see this little thing for clanker so it's looking good it's looking really good it's incredibly useful and then you can go right to coingecko or dexscreener or you can just sell buy do all the things share you can share it also i don't know if you've noticed and i don't think we talked about this when you type in the token name now it pops up it pops up like a thing to fill in the token and to give you the information so that's interesting so all these little interesting things happening

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oh come on why are you doing this to me today oh and this from bee creator information on these pages come from clanker if you launch a clanker you're automatically shown as the creator of the token if your token isn't a a clanker we're working on an alternate way to verify ownership coming soon but also why would you launch it anywhere else if it's on base like i don't even understand why you're looking at anything but clanker so just a thought i'm sorry sorry zohra but not the same not the same oh you're muted sorry what'd you say

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we are so off our game i just said maybe you wanna vibe code your own smart contracts and launch your own tokens

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no you do not no you really don't wanna do that

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i mean ai

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can just do it for you

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so why would you wanna give any fees to clanker

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i didn't pull i'm

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sorry i'm

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i didn't pull the the cast from lobster mindset and i should have where she said she used to audit contracts and she even gets contracts audited that she writes of course like she's not like so if you are vibe coding a smart contract go ahead say it stop it

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mama's had enough

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just stop it stop it stop it don't do that just don't do that that goes in the don't do this channel do not do non just just use clanker just make your life easy and this from dwr upgraded

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to didn't know this was happening oh

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i got it i've got it pulled to talk about yeah okay yeah yeah we'll talk about it upgraded token pages with social signals more improvements on the roadmap farcaster wallet any asset any chain instant low cost and reliable swaps so a lot of upgrades happening with the wallet and really enjoying seeing all that come together which has changed my thoughts on like where what i'm doing with my students next week when i give them wallets so i'm all over the place on that this from horse facts more wallets should spend multiple years building a sufficiently decentralized protocol and short text social media app great way to get user feedback actually true like very true yeah so it's been i mean you're gonna you're gonna learn a lot more when you're actually talking to users and i think a lot of a lot of products and i'm not you know this is not just wallets it's any anybody you it's really hard to find enough people to give you enough feedback to make it useful so i you know this is the this is the bonus of building on farcaster as well even if you're not the actual you know dan and v

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this was uncle horacefax he's being this is his dry humor don't go try to start a sufficiently decentralized protocol just i think the point was build on farcaster get you to

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the on farcaster

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that is something we say all the time though when we're trying to explain like what are the benefits of farcaster just like the ability to it's like get that get your first thousand users get people who are actively engaged with your product get feedback so like

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you can't beat it you can't beat it and they're active they're actively engaged they are great people who give you feedback because they're building themselves so it's yeah it's a perfect little incubator ecosystem if you will speaking of feedback looking for input on opt in customizable token alerts do you use alerts in other apps wallets do you typically like to set an alert when a token reaches a certain price percentage change market cap your p and l maybe limit orders i don't know it's this fine deals this whole thing feels yes to crypto coded like i i assume i'm assuming he has lots of thoughts on these issues so let dan know if you liked alerts like this is this something you would use and what exactly you'd like to see so because you know they they do the things pro fees have now been transferred into custody this was last week they had done the protocol fees and now the pro fees have also been transferred so you can see the transaction here and so you can see transparently where everything's going which is nice they don't have to do that so thank you they probably do that just to keep from people yelling about the fact that they didn't do it so tell them what's going on

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people will yell that it's in custody yeah exactly

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so they explained why yeah they explained why this from joe blau the fact that farcaster this is exactly who we're talking about the fact that farcaster gives you access to the haptic engine in many apps is amazing even apple doesn't do that on web so very cool more reasons to build here first really if you're building like any kind of app like even if you're just building like a random app for something that you're like gonna put in the apple store build it here first like try it out you're gonna get lots of feedback and it's gonna be way better when you finally get it launched and you'll have as

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a mini app

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yeah launch as a mini app first

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like prototype as a mini app yeah get people to try it do like the lite version there's friction in creating a mini app right so that's like the it's and and i think every every month it gets easier every quarter gets easier like the dev tools get better the standards get better llms start to learn yeah documentation

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so it does get easier but once you get past that like okay i know how to do the the mini app setup yeah why would you like

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i mean if you're a dev

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i'm assuming someone has something

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yeah and i'm assuming if you're a dev you can i mean this could be yes it's there's some friction but there's gonna be a lot less friction than creating a full on app for the app store so don't you think

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oh fine but a website you can i mean i think the the difference was you can create a website like a web app but yeah what is the likelihood you're gonna get someone who's gonna see it in their phone not on desktop like click on your website get booted out to safari and play around like people don't wanna leave their feed so

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yeah

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you kind of like just grab their attention they will be more likely to open a mini app

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absolutely yeah so do that first here this from linda check out this video i just published on pine tree i asked on twitter x if anyone who is negative on crypto would be interested in doing a live stream with me to discuss we talk about negative stereotypes in crypto and i used it as an opportunity to share the positive things farcaster is working on too i have not watched this yet have you

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no i haven't watched it

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i know i have to go i just saw it this like i think this morning i didn't even see it until early this morning so definitely have to go check this out and i'm excited to see you know linda diving in i did watch one chat she had with i can't remember who it was about farcaster they're not on farcaster they're in crypto and trying to get them to onboard and they had a lot of pushback and it was interesting like it's you know when you have to explain something to somebody else and when you have to you know especially if you're trying to persuade you get better at it by doing it because when you have to you know anytime that's how you learn like that's the best way to learn is have to explain it to somebody else i've learned more about well i've been teaching blockchain because i have to explain it to somebody else and i usually find the friction points and realize like oh this is not ready for normie this is not right and that's been you know each semester it gets better it get last semester was way better probably one of the best and easiest that i've had to teach things of like swaps and things like that because coinbase wallet had done a lot of work even before they've it wasn't the beta version it was just the regular one as opposed to what i used to do with metamask and so it's it's getting easier so mhmm nothing against metamask i still use you every day so it's interesting but i i wanna go give this a watch and if you guys watched it and you're in the chat let us know what you thought this is a new little fun little app condo is far from perfect this is from jake but it's useful i expected i would want to use it weekly but i find myself using it multiple times a day cleaning your wallet with condo is like cleaning anything else it's much easier to do small frequent cleanups than to have to deal with a daunting mess so i did try this out yesterday and it worked for me once and then the second time i tried it got it kept failing on me so i think it's still a little bit of a work in progress but interesting mike our friend mike had also created wallet sweeper which i had never even had a chance to try and he said if you like wallet sweeper you're going to love kondo use this instead thank you jake for putting together a killer mini app for this use case i thought it was funny he's like don't use that because i was like oh i gotta go find this is exactly what i did i went to mike's profile because i was like oh i gotta go find his and then i saw this and i'm like oh

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he's like don't use mine i think it was one of the one of the steves

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i think it's steve

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one of the one of the steves with a manny pfp i don't know who you are i can't remember if it was steve dylindev or steve s steve okay just stop

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one of the steves

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one of the sdv steves

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while ago was asking for a batch swap it was like at you know like a a duster clean out clean a dust buster and i pointed him to mike's app and i was like oh mike and and mike was like hey just to be fair i did kind of code it on it it was like a little side project on a weekend it wasn't fully yeah didn't put a ton it was like a prototype so i think it's funny he's now

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yeah he's like just go use somebody else's

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but classic classic engineer move we are we are not salespeople

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yeah just go use that one we don't do that in

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new york

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by the way so this is such a clean look and the name is a reference to marie kondo obviously sparkjoy that kind of thing so i love the thinking there of like as i was going through my tokens i'm like no i'm keeping that i'm keeping that and keep you know because some of them spark joy or i think they you know different use cases or whatever but also it's a book i still i know i know i'm gonna go into a conspiracy theory but phil what have you been doing the past few days is what i'd like to know because it feels a little phil coded at least in the naming at least in the naming so i don't know just saying

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phil and jake had a lovely back and forth conversation about condo yesterday did they now yes phil was glazing jake like i've never seen okay like applauding him for like what choosing a great name like i don't know they should just get in a like get a room dude

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i need i need to see them in the same room together at the same time logged into their farcaster wallets i i nothing will nothing will convince me until i have that moment alright this from debbie are you building on privy we are looking for folks to test and give feedback on our new gas sponsorship feature dm me so i can get you early access so if you're building something on using privy go hit up debbie try this out very cool this from luke is building an audience of farcaster still building on farcaster and you said yep but you should also build a mini app and a poserx and a botnet channel

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i love i don't think we i guess we i i feel like we haven't talked about it recently of like building on farcaster so as farcaster you know like is

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that me

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yeah because early early days it was just like attracting builders like hackers like open social network you could come in and and build and you had a lot of people just kind of like hacking on forecaster like a lot of that energy mhmm and then i guess and also with the base app i mean there's just so many more people and when and i guess we saw this with the dgen like floodgates as well like people come and so what does it mean to build on farcaster and we don't like to gatekeep no and define what it means to build like yeah so i think for a lot of people yeah if you're building audience if you're creating good content you're yeah build on forecaster you're a builder it's like that's a thing but also like bust out your but also write some code

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you know while you're at it

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keep that

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speaking of somebody who's a creator and also a builder and also an artist effortix thanks so this is the thing that ben was just talking about fake jesse retake token currently trending the scammer is taking advantage of new fc wallet ui which shows how coins were launched but the legit retake bot page is live stream this fake used live stream with two s's please be vigilant so that yeah that one i guess got a lot of pretty savvy people so be careful out there i haven't checked the token itself like to see what the indicate other indicators were if there are other ways to figure out that it wasn't legit but yeah be careful out there so is

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the name of the token jesse

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i think so

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that like so they launched

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so when you when

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you launch

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i think when you launch on retake it takes your profile name and i'm actually gonna play around with this later today okay so i i don't exactly know how this fully happened but it sounds like they created some weird live stream with two s's thing to launch it so

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okay so if you open up that second screenshot oh can you like so so that's the fake so right there

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where it

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says yeah creator

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right here

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because that's the social aspect of it right so it'll tell you because i think what's missing is it tells you the launcher is it launch whatever they call it so it'll say

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launcher not the creator right the

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anchor or the right but then the creator is the person like that that's the that'll be and should not be spoofable

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right right i mean and i actually i don't even think it's i think it's gone like i think they may have nerfed it already okay because i don't even think i can find it right now because i was going to go double check at least i'm not seeing it at this moment so they may have nerfed it from the like at least the trending tokens now that you can nerf the token itself but i mean it's not showing up in trending right now don't know if you're seeing it

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and i think the other thing that on the new token page when it tells you who the creator is

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yeah

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that is a a link that will

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yeah it should show you

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broadcaster profile

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exactly yeah it should show you the forecaster profile

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so because people will you know it's easy to do the like you know the lowercase i capital like people do the the capital i to make it look like an l and and or or make things that look very similar so it's

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a little bit always

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but you can click through to make sure it's the right person

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yep if you click through to the actual token i'm trying to find one real quick just to show

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but also if you see a token that's trending and i think it's i i think when it's like oh if jesse launches a token or if dan launches a token i can see why you might ape in without doing yeah bot research because it's like okay but even still it's like the anytime i think anytime you're kind of playing with tokens that you don't know what they're going to do you should consider it like chips on the table casino action but that's just my personal opinion

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absolutely though i agree i think it's

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and maybe you could ask yourself

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do what would the token do what would the token do

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that's for you you're welcome

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so funny oops ended up in pepe's alright so be careful out there and oh here's what i was looking for i was looking for a token that i could pull up their token page and it was not coming up for me so like here's the better by betterment and if you click on that it should take you to the betterment like if you look in here it says creator betterment and it should take you to or i don't think it's like yes it is it'll take you to their profile page so if you click like this should be creator it should have been jesse and if it's not then it's not real so don't go there and then here's the platform and the chain and the website so the platform and the chain are not clickable links much to jc4p's dismay i think he just wants them to be in different colors i hear you and then these are the little icons i was talking about earlier still don't know what the shield is that's the betterment logo and then that's the clanker page that'll take you there so and then you've got these links down here so there you go that gives you like an idea so be we do not know does the shield mean

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i was from early he did that earlier i don't know if he's still here but we don't know mike we don't know we don't

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know mike we don't know what the shield means we're thinking it's means that it comes from a verified smart contract like but i don't know like i totally say don't know yeah don't know do not know we're and i did ask this question in the chat and sloke said there is a legend like they're they're coming with an explainer but i haven't seen the explainer yet so when you see that hit me up tag me would you alright

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oh someday we're gonna like be like remember when wallets didn't have social context

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remember that

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how do you even do anything

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how did you how did you get through life come on bring me back where was i

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come on by the way better's just been crazy it's my whole feed right now cody hawk oh so this is just one funny thing evan greenberg said does anyone still reply and i said of course we do what do you think we only quote cast now that would be ridiculous to which i had he what he didn't realize that replies no longer get points towards rewards so a lot of people did start quote casting a lot more but there's still a lot of people replying i reply most of the time i would reply to this i wouldn't have done this i did it just to be funny because you know i had to little had to stick it to him a little bit our friend our friend evan who we used to see at doors holding a poap all right we've got a few more things that i have to go over to my next tab

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this is how we do it now because day is it a two tab day

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window day

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it's been very busy it's been it's been pretty like active around here lately which is good i like to see that whoops helps if you actually share the screen there buddy i almost said my own name like my real name that's funny

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broff there we go this from brian armstrong i thought this was interesting i tried a lot of startup ideas that didn't work before in coinbase and this was in response to ace getting very excited that brian armstrong recasted him and it was this original one don't call me lucky i failed more times than you tried and so this was all going back to that into the in the founders channel and then i just really liked that brian came back and said you know i tried many things before coinbase because i you know it's that whole overnight success you know after twenty years of building something and i think we're seeing a lot of that right now within crypto because things have changed so people you know things that have just taken a long time to get rolling or were blocked by various regulators gary we hate you still you know you now are seeing a lot of things pop off so it might look like overnight success but it's really you know years and years of building and trying other things that failed and ace just needed some validation because he's on his fifteenth thing he's trying his fifteenth thing keep going ace we love you this from a 16 z i read this their substack today and it was actually really useful and interesting so just wanted to point it out featured it i really wish they'd just do it in a paragraph and i could read it in the mini app but oh well until we have a substack mini app featured in our latest newsletter edition why fintechs are launching their own blockchains a a playbook for bringing blockchains to tradfi three phishing schemes hooking crypto users the unintended impact of tornado cash verdict and breakout week for decentralized governance they're talking about that's what got my attention obviously if you if you know you know i'm you know i'm i'm into those those things called daos so we do a lot of governance and they were talking about the duna for uniswap that is about to happen the duna is a decentralized unincorporated non profit association it's a type of legal entity out of wyoming and they've been working towards getting uniswap as a doona so i thought that was interesting yeah but the whole thing was pretty interesting so go give it a read

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yeah are you saying daos aren't dead

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daos aren't dead but they are struggling

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dows are hard and i've been saying that for years they are really hard because you know why they're made up of people we haven't really you know quite got the autonomous part in there like nailed down yet so people make it hard so yeah daos are hard and they're hard they've been hard in a number of other ways too on this particular point with the legal aspect where it's very difficult to get a bank account for a dao it's diff there's a lot of things because of the nature of daos that make it challenging to interact with the real world so some of these things are making that easier like nouns finally has a bank account like if you have people like attorneys and accountants they're challenging to pay because they don't want to accept eth or usdc although some of them are now starting to do that but it's been pretty challenging for those kinds of real world things credit cards stuff like that when you think about a regular business the things that you have it's just it you can't really do it with daos and it gets a little tricky so it's getting easier yeah getting easier all one big experiment this from devcon oh i should probably follow them or maybe i shouldn't i'm not going

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tough choice brazil or patagonia before devconnect ethan is in san paulo this year with a conference hackathon edge city is heading to patagonia deep in the argentina andes are you doing a stopover before coming to buenos aires so devconnect is coming up in november lots of people going including

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gm forecaster

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okay well half of us

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so forecaster will be at devcon so excited just confirmed

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this week very exciting very exciting i'm excited for you

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hit us up we're making plans it's gonna be incredible and i know you're still undecided so

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really not

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what do

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you guys think should professor also go to devcon

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do you guys understand that i'm not undecided

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what do you guys think

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i've decided i don't wanna go so i think it's i think adrienne's actually the better person to go for this particular event i really do she's a dev like she can she can get down with the hackers all that kind of stuff

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i think it's way more than a dev

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i know it is i know

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it is it's the it's the ethereum world fair so i think it's not something you wanna miss just

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i'll give it another thought but the idea is literally it just gives me anxiety i don't know why but it just does so i'll have to get my passport renewed anyway so maybe i'll do that first and give it some thought

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but yeah we'll we'll see

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to go to devcon as much as she's going to eat fruits they know you they know

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nailed it absolutely nailed it i have to go through and get rid of i already i had the the phil stuff phil and dan stuff lined up so i gotta go clear them out for a second something i am going to though however is base camp i just got my acceptance to base camp so i will be in stowe vermont coming up in september so if you're gonna be at base camp look me up let's chat i really wanna try and do some quick little mini interviews with as many builders as i can that's going to be my gold goal while i'm there so yeah make sure we connect if you're going to be there so i'm excited for that it's gonna be a lot of fun but it's an

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it's so sad that we're i'm gonna go my damn forecaster for all of you

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i know you're not gonna be at base camp i know adrienne's not gonna be at base camp because she's gonna be traveling the world

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prop base interview interviews with base builders might be a good piece of content to put up for the octant

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ethereum storytellers round which we talked about i wanna say last week but if octant is is funding storytellers and

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good idea

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thinking about what to propose

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good idea and as long as it has like that farcaster i'm looking for people who are building stuff on farcaster and baseapp obviously and guess what

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i'll do the same and i'll do the same i'll do the same in b at a in ba at devcon perfect so

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perfect so i think that's yeah so we'll be doing some doing some stuff it's gonna be a lot of fun i'm excited but also i don't know why i was doing my planning and i'm like oh my god this is such a far trip it's it's takes it's gonna take me like you don't realize how far florida to vermont is until you like start to look at the amount of travel time

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it's it's pretty far and then i was like okay i'm gonna try really hard it's two days like i'm going from like sunday coming back tuesday night i'm like i'm gonna try really hard to just do a carry on in a backpack let's see if we can do it

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you don't have to bring like swag to give everybody everywhere you go like the presents

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i know i know just do it i know

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a nice little

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sorry you're not getting any swag people bring your return advice a swag from base so you don't you know if i give anything away i'll give maybe i'll give away a couple of things from our shop or something that people can order i don't know figure something out but i'm excited it'll be fun i'm really looking forward to it gonna see my friend tony there gonna see you oh you

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taking a day off from teaching

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yeah so i've completely screwed my this is the other thing just for some fun conversation time for a moment just to tell you the rest of how my week is going i normally teach my class on tuesdays i've taught my class on tuesdays for a very long time i was totally prepared to go in there last night except my class was apparently on mondays which i found out monday right around class time when i started getting lots of phone calls and wondering where i was and i'm like what are you talking about so it turns out i teach on mondays so what i'm gonna do is actually do class from there on zoom for that week i had to redo my entire syllabus like i had to redo so much stuff yesterday so that's why i was pretty quiet i went to look at my rewards just because i i forgot i'm like oh it was tuesday and i'm like i don't know 5,000 or something like that yeah it was like because i had no points because i i'm like i haven't casted anything today because i was so trying to fix my classroom and catch and just redo and then i had to rerecord a lecture it was a disaster yeah i've had a disastrous start to the semester but i'm gonna be teaching the class while i'm in vermont because i my plan was to come back tuesday morning and go teach class tuesday night it's not happening so

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there you go well hopefully stowe has better wi fi than idlewild

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oh my god i didn't even think about that part jesus yeah it will it's it'll be fine

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a little

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it'll be fine it'll be fine so i'm gonna also see if i can you know maybe grab a couple people to talk to the students so yeah it'd end up being a fun a fun thing so excited about this yeah i know right don't you i hate when that happens like i didn't cast anything yesterday it was awful until like late late at night

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yeah and i don't know what your excuse is because farcaster is your work

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i know right except except that one day a week when it's not yeah like literally

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this i we have another hackathon coming up herd herd hackathon number one not just for devs we've built herd trails for easily building a crowdfund app on top of the seed club crowdfund contracts to qualify for rewards you must share it as a reply to this cast and it must be a mini app bountybot we're giving 100 usdc each to the most creative crowdfund mini app so i'm not exactly sure what this is but this is from our friend elami who and who used to be with dune dashboard if you don't i don't know if you

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remember that he left and he's went to a his own i think he founded his own company and i think so maybe that's what he's doing but my my read on this is we know that seed club has a mini app to for crowd funds it's often at the top of the list i think that's what the lfers used we saw some other kind of like yep popular crowd funds but since they're based on smart contracts anyone can build different uis on top of them so my guess is this is just a hackathon for people to build on top of it and exactly like maybe

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using the contracts that are already there which is great

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yeah and maybe we should do one to fund your trip to buenos aires

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i won't give this up until

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i i feel i feel you i will give it some thought i will give it some thought anyway moving on in other nudes monad cards launched yesterday what is monad cards i haven't the slightest freaking idea i so again offline most of yesterday like got back on all of these are popping up i have no idea what this is and i know it's probably more so on twitter and i was not on twitter at all yesterday crypto twitter so and not twitter at all but definitely not crypto twitter so i missed everything had no idea what's going on but here's burberry's and it's pretty cool i agree it's pretty cool and she said it's pretty cool to be among the 5,000 crypto twitter accounts selected for a monad card on x i gave my nominations to netnos who was the only one on the better team not nominated yet warp cost because he's my better half and jc because she's jc which i agree that's enough of a reason so and i like her card i agree her card is fire i did see linda had one i i don't know who else there was a few people who were on farcaster who who ended up with this honor but not moonpappy so okay so i didn't get in on wave one of moon monad cards so therefore they're stupid and i hate them agree

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and then we had this from kia similar vibes no one nominated me for the nomad nomad i think it's monad card thing i'm officially obsolete nomad the nomad card thing by the way it's weird you know when you're not when you're you know

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when you're not at the cool kids' table you're at

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the cool kids' table so so adrienne here's an opportunity hit him

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hit him with it i i can't even do this anymore it's every day it's like every day there's a new thing every day if you don't know by now you don't like you don't know but in all seriousness and i saw this come up also with base camp invitations going out not everyone's getting accepted to go to base by the way i don't even they've accepted everyone yet it's probably not

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i don't think so either yeah it's rolling i think

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the cards i'm sure there's an opportunity to make a card in the future but all of these things that you see and you that you you know you feel left out just don't attach your your self worth to it because in the grand scheme of things they're all very silly and it doesn't matter it's not your worth

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you all it's not your worth

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if you didn't get selected to be a top 5,000 crypto twitter account you're still good enough you're smart enough people like you and you know you're a good person

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i i i didn't even cross my mind to be upset first of all they could have picked me and i just don't even know probably not wow second of all i don't care but third if that happened on parkhaster that would be a different story

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then i would be upset remember when we weren't even in the ferris tocracy

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i remember that and you know what we

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were rob we remember we weren't upset we weren't upset we weren't upset at all

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we actually played that we played that for a while

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yeah and then he had to put us in darren

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we got mad like why did you put us in there we've had this whole thing going where we're not the aristocracy and then you go put us in but yeah it's not your worth

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yeah and i don't wanna get all deep but you really can never let other people determine what your worth is play your own game yeah you know like play

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your own game win your own prizes and oh that's similar now

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tell you i actually i'll say this i i've had it cast drafted and i keep i keep wanting to cast it and then i'm like and i'm not because it's somehow for for a number of reasons but i guess i'll just tell you on air i caught up with an old colleague of mine last week and he is someone who reported me for almost a decade he was an engineering manager engineering director and he is he lives in india and he just called me up because he just got a role as a cto of like a us based company so this is like pinnacle like he's crushing it and he was and so i was catching up with him and i'm so proud of him and he's so happy like awesome

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it's awesome

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so then he asked me what i've been up to and i had to tell him and i

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swear to god did you tell him

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i was like listen i mostly said that i've been podcasting about farcaster yeah and coding like getting back into coding and you've seen my coding arc because prior to farcaster i really i had done a lit like a little bit recently but my you know i i had to put my hands on yeah and now i'm like it it's it sparks joy i should say it sparks joy i'm having the time of my life i'm building mini apps so i'm like oh i'm telling him about the mini app and the bot i built and i am clearly so excited and i swear i think he was i could feel his disappointment in me it was palpable

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because you're not because you're not climbing a corporate ladder anymore

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yeah like it it was you know and he i i think it was just like he looked up at me and i was you know and it's like oh now you're just kind of like solo dev ing and have a podcast that no one's ever heard of like like what a loser okay it just reminded me you can't let other people like dictate what success is or what you know like follow your own path determine what like winning is to you and just like and don't forget that so that comes up a lot so anyway the mona head cards not not my worth don't care

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don't care

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didn't didn't make me happy or not

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it is really funny i've had similar situations though when i especially when i go back up north in the summer of like what are you doing now and i'm like like i i i really don't feel like answering it's just such a long conversation that most of the time i just say i'm still teaching i just and leave it at that like because

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okay i still have my tech consulting company

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becomes like even that conversation is a lot so depending on who it is if it's somebody like i really think will find it interesting or you know what i mean like then i'll

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or has a lot of time yeah i'm like how much i can have

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somebody i wanna actually tell about this like i'll get into it but most of the time you're talking like aunts and cousins and you know people i see once a year that aren't gonna be able to grasp this in any way shape or form like i'm not telling my you know 81 year old uncle about farcaster is not not gonna work out well so yeah but it's it's challenging it's challenging to have these conversations for sure for sure but it's not your worth like what makes you happy is your worth for sure and along those lines from samantha you should never measure yourself worth by an arbitrary number like money or follower count this is a recipe for never finding peace or happiness in your life you should instead measure it by whether or not you have a humankind candle

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i do i wish it was like in reach now

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i know i meant to put it on my counter and it's way over there and i forgot i meant to do that ahead of time and i didn't prep yeah

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i have two candles right now in my house they're they're both like about 30% left so i'm gonna have to order up some yeah i started doing a thing where i light different candles based on different moods it's a little like pavlovian so i'm like when i wanna get into focus mood i light the candle over here and when i wanna get into like clean the house or cook something like when i'm like active i slide a different one so

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is it fragrance based or just you've just determined this is active okay

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i don't know let's tell samantha it's fragrance based yeah interesting i don't think it is but it's just

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by the way this was in a requote a quote cast of neymar you should never measure yourself worth by an arbitrary number like money or follower count this is a recipe for never finding peace and happiness in your life you should instead measure it by whether or not you got a monad card but no you should not not no you should not

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can we just like end it at this is a recipe for never finding peace or happiness in your life period

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we could but that wouldn't be fun

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or not but then it wouldn't be copy copy casta

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it wouldn't be it wouldn't be oh copy casta i like that i like that speaking of cards this is a whole other thing that has nothing to do with your worth and anybody can grab these based cards are live on vibe market so i have not i have been woefully behind on vibe market woefully so i did buy some i have not opened them yet because i think what i'm gonna do is open them on a stream because i've been wanting to test out retake aka stream i'm like oh and i was about to open them and then i'm like you know what i'm gonna wait because i'm gonna copy naomi to an unboxing but i was like oh that's a really good idea that'd be something we could actually just trying out different mini apps too in general would be good for a stream just to like not have it be just the gm forecaster so so have

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you been watching people stream

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i have a couple times i've gone into avertech stream i've been in moonpappy stream on occasion i'm trying to think if i've seen any other ones i think just those two and this was from yesterday when she said it'll be live on retake today yapping apping unboxing base devo playing cards packs with stunning art by lampchop and some bonus packs on buy market might even give away a little something too see you there so that was yesterday she's been doing a lot of streaming on retake i think she's doing like she said like three this week or whatever that she's going to be doing look how cute her little like promo is she's so good i just this is just like a afro chicks appreciation moment honestly so just just love you girl speaking of retake okay okay

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is this the last thing we're talking about tonight

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this is the last thing we're talking about today so before we get into it is there anything else that i missed because this is gonna be the last thing

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blah blah blah blah i don't think there's anything you've missed

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no

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okay so and then we have this question gm team very curious so your thoughts on retake and streamer tokens what do you think so

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well you know what i think about streamer tokens right

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yeah i mean

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what would

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so i think i think it's fine

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token do what would this token do

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really use that a lot

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you can really use that a lot what would the token do okay so

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mom's had enough

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couple things i think it's i think it's a fine experiment i think it's a fine experiment i would so we started out we were doing this on unlonely and then lonely was built on on base and it was there were some cool features because of that and one of the things is you could tip out to people in the chat but you could only tip their token you couldn't do anything else so there were some limitations that like that retake has and or that is i think very useful because you can tip out people in the audience they can tip you you could so there's things you can do with the tokens that are useful i would prefer if it didn't make you launch a token when you were streaming like if it didn't make you do that like i would like to be able to use whatever token i wanted to to tip or whatever but it does and and that's you know just the way it is i think it's really cool i think it's a cool option i just wish it was an option rather than required

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so but i do think it's because i again like we're getting so many tokens in so many places and this is like you know the opposite of decentralization but i'm like it's it's too much it's just too much i want to put them together and just have like if i'm gonna have a creator token i want it to be one token that i can use in all the different places i'm seeing some really cool integrations where this is a clanker so you can use it other places so that's cool like other integrations things like empire which if you haven't checked out empire very cool very cool mini app very cool use cases and then on the other side with zuora you have zuora being integrated into paragraph like i think some of those those partnerships are smart because it lessens on the creator side if you're not the person launching the token like it probably makes no difference to you whatsoever but from a person who might have to manage what that is it's helpful so that's just my thoughts on it and also you know this would be a good time for mama had enough

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i need one in i i think we need one in your voice mama's

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had enough nah i'm just gonna use in your voice it's too it's too good

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so by the way we're gonna this like you can stream without a token hey guess what we are right now and people show up every time we stream and they're watching the recordings and we're here and we've been doing it for two years so the answer is yes people are interested and if you are doing a stream and the only reason people are interested is because they can gamble

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cool i'm happy for you

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i'm happy for you yeah i mean like if that's we you know there's there's multiple reasons that we use the platforms that we use and we want to make sure we're capturing as much audience as possible for not just for getting the content out for our you know when we have sponsors we want to make sure we get giving them the biggest audience they can have we also want to make sure you know that we're showing off farcaster like that's our kind of our purpose is to show off what's happening on farcaster and we want to reach as many people as we can if we only stay in retake we're going to miss a lot of folks so anyway yes and basically we're on youtube because yes to crypto made us and that was a good idea thank you and thank you thank you for the push what were you gonna say

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apparently we owe yes to crypto so much i know it's ridiculous just really just put them on payroll and ridicule

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okay i had something to say and i forget it so we can move on

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okay well here we go here's what we're moving on to okay that's where i wear my clinker hat by the way so this is from thosmer i have not watched their stream yet at all so i i don't know anything about this particular creator i just haven't had a chance

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so here's what here's i'm just gonna read it this is thosmer not me reading saying this currently at work on the toilet some things to list off the proxystudio.edu interview combo isn't tonight unless there's a change on his end it seems like proxy has some things to get around to prior to hopping on the stream so apparently he was trying to get him to jump on that night he should be on in the near future very near future when a date is locked in it will be announced two the stream time tonight is tba should be announcing it in about an hour i love you guys the thought stream has had a chance to be a life changing and i'm all in on it thank you for all for everything you've been doing it to support this should be the biggest night yet and i'm excited okay then proxy responds thursday if it works for you otherwise monday if we can lock it in by tomorrow i'll post a statement morning of stream and chat with you at your usual time thanks for coordinating and asking i just wanna make a note that i did ask like in may so just saying just saying proxy and by the way

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proxy a dm maybe the yeah dm got deleted because forecaster released the deleting dms so if you you know if he went offline back now check yeah it's okay get it i always assume good intent even from shady people who have already proven that they won't always

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i know and it's and he may not have been ready to talk and that's fine and it's all good no big deal so anyway they go back and they go back and forth and now this is set for thursday so this from thosmer time and date are set proxy studio will be coming on the stream thursday 1pm eastern you're not gonna want to miss this so and this is funny from femi commits a financial crime dipped for months now or a farming this guy surprised it took this long i think he just wasn't ready so this is gonna be interesting and then we have this from kasra from jc4p just fyi i will be blocking anyone who welcomes this guy back or sympathizes with him people like this should never be allowed back into small circles like this they'll just scam you again and it shows a bad example to other potential scammers that it's okay to do it okay so here's my thoughts on this having somebody on a stream does not mean you're endorsing anything and i'm hoping and i have no again i do not know thosmer i don't even know if i'm saying the name right i don't know his intention like i don't know anything about this guy so but i'm assuming it's like he reached out and was just like hey let's i just want to talk to you i was very curious like i wanted to talk to him but of course it would have been very mom ish i'll be honest and it's probably why he's never gonna come on because you know i i i have some you know i have some questions i have and they're not necessarily gonna be friendly so i can understand not wanting to to go there so i'm hoping that that's where we'll ask some tough questions we'll you know dig into it and we'll see and i thought about that yes to crypto i right i thought about that again i don't know who he is so i don't know i don't know anything about gossamer but or they could be they could know each other there could be a whole thing there who knows so you know i'm looking at this as entertainment i don't think it's it means you're endorsing him in any way shape or form or anything he did by talking to him especially if you hold his feet to the fire kind of thing so we'll see we'll see how it goes on monday by the way this is excellent timing excellent timing on monday we're going to be talking with dish from clinker so we'll maybe be able to get some reaction to whatever goes down and have a little chat and you know i've had some conversations a couple conversations with dish since all that went down and we we love him and support the clanker team so just to make that very very clear

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so very clear

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but i'm curious

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we are very happy we're very happy to sympathize and endorse and chat with the clanker team and give them a platform so yes cause or don't block me

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yeah very different but i'm looking i i am curious i am very curious to see what proxi has to say it does you know not to absolve or whatever you know but to seek to understand what the fuck were you thinking it's basically the first question on many things on many things but i think you know there's another piece to this and oops i always i keep meaning to write this

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paragraph post about this but i don't think you read you didn't read malcolm gladwell talking to strangers did you

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adrianne i don't think so okay he really gets into talks a lot about different scammers over the years like and how they were able to in con men and different different people who were able to gain people's trust in the ways in which they did it and why people you know why people fell for it and you know like from madoff to all the way down you know like just all these different types of types of folks and it's really interesting sort of exploring that and thinking about that because

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we all do we all have these interest it talks about different biases and a lot of research and things like that within this and we have these this predisposition to to trust and to believe because if you are if you are somebody who is trustworthy like you're you start to assume that people are the same especially when you're young if you think about this from a kid's perspective like you have to teach them you know good and bad and like look out for in you know like stranger danger and stuff like that because they're more inclined to just believe everybody's nice and until you've gotten you know sort of gone through life and been hurt a few times by trusting the wrong person like you don't necessarily develop that until that happens and then you get to be my age and you don't trust anybody like i literally do not like i you you don't if you're if i've never met you before i don't trust you i assume positive intent until proven otherwise and i've said that number of times in here because i have no reason to believe that you're a bad actor off the bat but also i'm not gonna you know i'm not like trusting you with my money i'm not trusting you with

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trust needs to be earned but you can still assume good intent absolutely you're giving everyone opportunity people you don't come in with with lack of trust you're not putting you're not yeah

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i don't assume you're up to up to no good right from the start like but i also am not gonna trust you until it's earned so and i think most people are you know we we we have a hard time believing when somebody does something that is just something we would never do and i think that's kind of where this where this all went down is that it felt so off and i think it took everybody like a moment to even accept that this was real like that this really happened because it just seemed so out of character for the person that we know that we knew like that we got to know

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yeah who was an anan yeah

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but there were a lot of people who had met him in person you know i mean so there was

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and you start to question then kind of like all your judgment everything

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yeah so you start to question yourself and like all of that and then it sometimes it's hard to to move past that so it's really interesting

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yeah so we'll see how that all goes down we'll be talking about it on friday i'm sure and then on monday we'll have dishon hopefully to chat mostly we'll be chatting about clanker and like what's going on with them but we'll touch on if he wants to talk anything about that he may not want to so up to him and but we're excited to to chat with dish all right anything else adrienne we've been chatting for

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a while what's that

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i said we've been chatting for a while so anything else

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twenty twenty nine minutes at twenty nine minutes

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another plus plus thirty nine thirty forty actually alright and that is it for us we will be back on friday 08:30am eastern or whatever time that is where you are look for us on the timeline in between we might do some streaming on retake to play around with that so look for that we'll post it in the gm forecaster channel and with that everybody we say to you bye bye