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we do a cold open but i just wanted to let you know before you said anything else
so i was sure what's coming next so we are here very excited we're gonna be bringing up rocketman right after our little intro so we're gonna be talking about cobuild new brand new this week frame that mini app oh my god i said frame
send linda to another $10
i we're gonna be talking about mini app cobuild mini app very cool mechanics and we're gonna dive a little deep into hopefully we can dig in a little bit into the tech part of it so we're gonna bring rocketman up right after the intro so cast out everything let everybody know you're here because it's zero hour 11am that's my first elton john reference congratulations ramsey that's one rocketman joins me at show zero hour 11am exactly
it's from it's from the actual song
zero hour 9am it's zero hour means the time that the rocket was going up
just quoting lyrics for melton john that's all that's all just for the it's pretty much just for the gen xers and the boomers and apparently adrienne is not qualifying today she's she's playing millennial so john who alright on that note we'll be back after our brief intro with rocketman tweet it out
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gm farcaster it is friday august 29 and you are here with nounish prof and adrienne for twenty nine minutes of farcaster news to start your day but first but first we're gonna bring up rocketman in just one second as soon as i get this last thing tweeted out so that we can make sure we get everybody in here this is gonna be a lot of fun i'm really excited to chat with him i've been using cobuild it's a lot of fun and it has some really cool mechanics so let's get to it because he's got a he's got a flight to his bags are packed he packed his bags last night i think so i'm just gonna keep doing it and he has to go take a flight so there we are hey rocketman rocketman lyric yes it was i don't know i think i need
look up the lyrics i know this one
they're giving me
i just can't help myself by the way did you sleep at all is my first question and i'm gonna get a little mom ish
oh so you took a little nap
yeah i'm gonna be sleeping on this flight so it'll be good but yeah i'm really excited to be here
we're really glad you're here and the reason i asked that question is i saw this as soon as i woke up this morning i saw hold on let me pull it up this little this little new thing that you built overnight and i'm like wait and i was and it was like i don't know i think i woke up at like 6am or something and i see this thing and i'm like wait a minute is he does he realize he has a show to do in a couple hours like go go to bed like what are you doing
just hilarious of course not it's pulling up for me right now
yeah you have an interview yeah i'm like what are you doing so he was up building stuff can't stop won't stop shipping every cobuilder now has a portfolio you can view click any username to dive in which is very cool but we'll we're gonna back up and and actually talk about the whole thing first but that was really funny because i was like you haven't been sleeping you definitely haven't been sleeping and just to let adrienne know because i don't think she knows this i know rocketman via nouns so and little nouns in particular and he's just a crack dev so i was really excited to to see this so let's talk about cobuild i'm gonna make this a little bigger so we can see the mini app what you build here for us and this was part of the on chain summit hackathon correct
yes i i actually applied super last minute i i didn't even know what was going on but i went on to twitter like five days before the on chain sf like hackathon was gonna happen and they said they had five more spots and i went ahead and applied and got in like last minute and then i actually didn't even check my email until sunday and they had sent me an email on saturday saying that i should head down on like tuesday and so it's a quick turnaround time
oh my god that's crazy
that was awesome i got to meet jesse and talk to some really cool folks at the hackathon and like on the base team too and then i'd already been working on the idea a little bit before that and basically used the hackathon to also get a little sleep and just grind it out for three days and launched it on friday morning after pulling it on
i think you like was this something you were already working on before on chain summit started or was this something like that you did specifically for that
so basically i probably had the idea like two weeks before the hackathon i had started working on like some of the back end infrastructure like the week before
okay
okay that's what i figured because it's a really like you know very detailed project so it felt a little you know well too well developed for just
really good really good no it was it was probably more like a week but what was funny is i so when i got in i was like oh this is awesome like i i applied with an idea and so i figured i'd get to keep working on it and like finish it up for the hackathon and i was like so excited by the idea that like i mean that was just what i was gonna do and so i emailed the guy just to make sure like hey i've already got an idea i've been working on it a bit is it okay if i use it and he was like yeah it's totally fine and then i get there and then during the intro for the hackathon they're like we want everybody to start from scratch and i was like no like i can't do this like there's no way i'm like like i'm not gonna be pulled away to some other thing that i really just don't care about and like don't wanna do and i'm so excited about this one idea so i like talked to the it's like the head of engineering at base that was like running a lot of it and i pleaded my case and he said it was
please please
so i it took me a second to to get it to open up and i opened it a little bit ago but my computer decided once i started streaming no you're not gonna see it so here here it is so explain like what is happening within cobuild so you have two two different things going on at least from you know the screen we're looking at right now and this is my portfolio so you can see how much i've spent on coins how much i've raised for the coin all of this is based on different settings like likes recasts and a budget so this is sort of the settings background and it's kinda taking off on tips but kinda flipping it on its head a little bit because instead of tipping and just giving people a penny or 5¢ or whatever you're actually buying their token so it's it's like tipping but very different
yeah that's that's a great way to describe it yeah i i think like the the general thing behind this was and i was i was on a i was on a drive when i had the idea and i i basically like we've kind of been working in isolation on this product that we had built for nouns called flows and unfortunately like this big voting block in nouns had kinda popped up and decided not to fund us back earlier in like may i believe and so we had kinda sold flows to some other communities that we're working with and that's kind of still part of our our master plan is the flows protocol but we were poking around mini apps and and heard about them blowing up and like generally we're having trouble getting like distribution for what we were working on and so i was looking at some of the popular mini apps and i thought like the tipping ones were really cool i'd always thought like tipping was cool ever since like i guess like degen had the comment to tip or whatever and i was looking at him as i and i was like okay these are super popular but also like i'm not gonna spend like a bunch of money every week like giving it away like i don't i don't know i just like i don't have that kind of money and it it doesn't feel like super compelling for me and if it's not for me i'm sure like a lot of other people feel the same way
i think that's why degen was so popular was because you were spending someone else's money exactly always like always more popular so i am really good at spending other people's money it's really it's it's a joy for me also why i like being announced so it's you know it's it definitely changes the dynamic when you're spending your own funds and even though i'll still do that i'm less yeah i'm definitely less inclined so yeah so i get that
totally exactly and i'm i mean this is probably also partially because i i built the thing but i've like i haven't spent this much money on a crypto product in a while so that's at least some somewhat good signal for me but yeah i think generally i was thinking like these tipping apps are really cool but i'm not gonna just give away money but i would love to basically like micro back all these creators that i care about and like own their coin and be able to like look back especially if people blow up and say that like i got in early with some of these people back when they were small i think the coolest thing that we're building on top of obviously is just like your farcaster engagement like we're able to build this really personalized portfolio like super tied to basically what you're giving your attention to and i don't know it's it's really it's really clean i think and like i've supported a ton of creators on cobuild and i feel like i've got this really awesome portfolio of people that i i think are are good so
i think you're you're very close to one of my top backers here yeah my my you were right up the top now oh you dropped a little bit no you're right there you're right there still
sweet yeah it's it's really cool to see also who i'm backing because i don't even realize it so that's the other part of this is that i'm just going along i'm liking i'm recasting i'm just doing my thing i have my budget set i'm not thinking about oh i'm gonna buy this token i'm gonna buy that token it's just happening all in the background and adrienne for you it like started buying your token that you didn't even realize was there
yeah yeah so how did that happen
my yeah i like enabled my zora coin months ago or whenever that came out just for fun and then i hadn't set up the cobuild app yet and i noticed in the zora app just seeing those notifications saying like cobuild bought your coin cobuild bought your coin i didn't realize the connection was there like to farcaster but i guess i had linked it so i guess when you built this you somehow imported all that like you had that those links so people were buying my my zora yeah
yeah apologies if that wasn't what you wanted to have happen but definitely i think part of what i realized when i was building this was that it wasn't really gonna work that well if we couldn't use like existing coins like if everybody had to come in here and set their coin then it it was kinda gonna hit a wall where you'd be liking people and only like a couple of them would have a coin that you could buy so yeah i spent a bunch of time and appreciate the folks at zora for some api support but it was also pretty tough like i'm hitting a couple of their endpoints and some of them are rate limited and so i spent like probably more time on that zora integration than most other stuff
that sounds right i thought it was cool though mean it was like i have it and and one of my complaints also is like my like we and we've talked about this professor of like zora as a social app but i already have farcaster as my social graph and having to recreate it and i can't like i like the tight integration personally
yeah i think it makes a lot more sense and it's when you go to set up in the settings you could search and it would pull up the coins for you or it would or it would just default it would already have yours if it knew who who you were so i started searching for my coin because it had defaulted to my zora coin and i was like wait a minute i didn't even set that up yet and i really hadn't really hadn't set it up like i didn't even know it was hanging out there so that was really weird and then while i was searching i found two others that were not me so that was hell really helpful i was like oh i'm like that's not me i didn't do that one and then i was able to just paste in the coin that i wanted and just paste in the contract which was super helpful so that you know especially for somebody like you know toadyhawk comes to mind who may not want his zora coin to be the one he might want it to be better so like or you know another project coin that you're building is maybe where you want the attention to be or the focus to be so i think that's really cool feature that you could just pop in whatever coin you want to benefit and there's there's a lot of you know different approaches to that but i thought that was that was really really helpful
i was saying i just love the concept of like the professor you're talking about like choosing the coin that you want to benefit because obviously the more buys into a coin it's showing demand you know kind of helps but i love the idea of kind of just benefiting the person who is buying the token as well like i have this in mind i mean i have it set up to my adrienne's zora token but i think did horsefacts do weth did he like choose wrapped eth or something or eth yeah i was thinking of just doing like the the bitcoin on on base like the coinbase platform
yeah the rep bitcoin
it's just as my mom way of telling the youngins like just dollar cost average into bitcoin at all times so it's like just keep so it's like yes you're liking me and it just benefiting that way just like i don't know
yeah so there's a lot of different ways you could approach this you could also if you have a project you could be incentivizing others to set it to your going you know and kinda get your get your army going
and that kind of thing this is a great segue i think into one of the kind of behind the scenes things that we're working on right now that i wanted to talk about which is which is basically like part of part of the reason we built this is we felt like we wanted to help like these projects and on chain startups that we're working with on flows like basically grow and attract users and like most importantly attract a bunch of builders and so sorry for the background noise in the airport
that's okay all good
but what we've figured out was like it's really hard to get people to buy stuff like there's a lot of friction to it and i think what i really liked about cobuild and part of the reason i was so excited about building it is like i just set it once and then i can forget about it and i don't have to just click swap every day or like even decide how much i wanna buy like it's a really simple decision setup and then it just kinda rolls automatically which is great but what we're thinking about building and i'm curious y'all's thoughts is like kind of in line with that supporting a project coin basically like we wanna empower builders on chain to come together and earn together and share on the upside of what they're building and so i think a really cool way to do that that i've always been excited about is basically imagine you can join the hire team on cobuild and when you do that either automatically or whenever you post about hire or demonstrate some work that you've done for the community if somebody likes that post then it actually buys hire and i think that gives us really good signal around like okay this person has driven this much revenue by posting about their community and we can kind of maybe like do some matching pool alongside that or yeah so kind of a half baked idea of something
build co build co build cabals make a lot of sense cobuild cabals there we go or cobuild you know tribes something like that i think that's a really good idea or cobuilds just cobuilds yeah i love that i think that's a really good idea and i think that you know social economy it makes a lot of sense and we've already you know we see that happen all the time with people like you know doing raids or whatever you know the doge army has been strong for a decade you know so there's all those you know all those things so i think that makes a lot of sense so i think there's yeah multiple ways to to look at this and i'm excited to see see what you what you bring in next that's very cool very cool ideas the other thing i wanted to like point out here was the you also have a leaderboard going on and this is mostly i'm pulling i'm mostly showing this to our leaderboard at the top maxi no no no no it puts you at the top just so you can find yourself easily but it tells you your rank mhmm your worth it tells you your worth it tells you your worth i was mostly showing this for crypto so that yes yes crypto can see that there's a leaderboard in here just in case he wants to dive in but well rocketman's at the the top of some of these for because yeah everyone's supporting him on
oh yeah cavalier yeah it is cavalier so whoops that's top creators all time and then no you're still top creator you're getting the most and then toady and then so that's the most of people backing at you and then the top backers are cavalier and then jalbo who i don't know and rocketman so very cool and cobuild also is getting a lot of love so that's very cool to see so even as you're building this you're getting some support for building it so that's pretty cool i love that and i love that it you you know jump in and immediately see sort of where you're at with your portfolio and can see you know who's backing you it's been amazing to see how quickly it's growing as well this has only been a few days and every day i have more backers which is great and then every day i my creator one is going up without me being conscious of it at all like i'll go in and i'm like oh holy crap like what's what happened last night and i was like i'm i'm backing that many people i have no idea because i'm just you know doing my thing i'm just liking and recasting and doing my usual stuff so it's really cool to see
yeah that's the most fun part for me is like just having this high number of people that i've put money behind and like help support it and having it grow automatically i just think it's so cool and it it lends itself to what i was talking about earlier where it's like you only have to make one decision which is your budget and your config for each action and then it just kinda goes automatically which is awesome
yep and you just set your budget here i do need to up my budget again and then i've kinda been you know i've really been thinking in a different way of like okay how do i manage all these different tipping options and kinda switching between but like this one feels a little bit it makes a little more sense because if you look at my numbers the amount i've raised on my coin plus my portfolio even if i'm down a little bit from what i've spent because you know whatever the token's dropped or whatever it's still i'm still up so i'm like wait so then it started to go wait i don't really mind you know spending this because i really haven't you know it's not lost it's it's still there so it's kind of a you know if you have to kinda wrap your head around that of like there's still an upside for me it's not totally just you know generosity going out the door which isn't a bad thing
what happened to you
oh somebody sold so me too me too
and i'm cracking up so i'm like so to your point of like i don't even focus on number yeah because it's like not you don't even know what any of this stuff is right like and i'm not trying to sell i'm not trying to like live off my adrienne tanger token it's just like they're fun little legos to play with so i obviously don't care but it was like oh yeah so i'm getting my people are buying you know 5¢ at a time of adrienne tanger but literally it's cut in half it's 50% of what it was and and then i just kinda believe though it's it's a little bit of like wherever it was was fake anyway like it's not real it's because it was you know so you gotta just keep i think hammering at all these things and playing with them because they'll all be science experiments unless they they last longer than you know the the current cool thing so i think it's
so i wanna go in and compare i have to go in and compare our recent activity because somebody had bought a large amount of my token on zora oh and then i did a large sell fairly recently and i'm just curious if it's the same if it's first i'm just wondering i just thought it was funny yeah they're if we are content point
if we are calling tech coins when someone says someone says by the dip should we take it personally we call them dip
pretty soon
we gotta let you go yeah
please keep asking the tech questions because
i i have one tech question because i i really am and i and i casted this last week but i was so impressed when i heard it was built in a hackathon because it was so well done just like in terms of it just worked it was kind of polished it felt like a complete product in itself as as a as a you know v one launch so very well done but my question is when you built it did you have and i is this all using like existing contracts kinda like full assembling of lego blocks or did you have to do anything did you write any smart contracts or is this all using what was existing
yeah so the piece that i did actually before the hackathon started was one of the hardest parts which was the contract for it and like kind of setting up the system that posted to the contract basically the issue as compared to tips is gas is a lot higher for doing swaps especially for zora coins because you have to basically route through two uniswap pools like you need to go usdc to zora and then zora to creator coin which like
like a tip is a tip is just to send right like one wallet to one wallet send a certain amount of token yeah swaps are through
exactly which could be like 40,000 like gas which is not a lot but then a zora swap is like 1,400,000 gas and so basically that's like the kind of the first principles limiter on like how low we can go and so basically the way we had to architect the contract and system is like bashing a bunch of coin buys into one so we only do one swap but then we potentially pay out to like a bunch of people so we can have like five people like profs posts in the last five minutes we batch them all into one call we do one swap and then we kinda fan out the payment
ah okay that makes sense
yeah because i was wondering with all these micro and i did notice it looks like the lowest you can do is 5¢ is that correct
yeah so the 5¢ ones yeah is the lowest because it like lower than that i mean i i think i could do like 4 maybe or probably 4 but like lower than that it just doesn't even fails yeah well yeah basically like we the way the workers work is they don't actually run unless like it's it's like we don't lose money on the on the swaps so like they don't run unless our small fee like nets at least zero
and oh okay so you don't lose
ones would just like never never really process maybe like they process once a day at 3am i think
yeah i was thinking of upping mine and then i was i was just trying to like think it all through and i was i'm like i really need to think through my tipping overall tipping strategy to figure this out because i'm like i really want i'm like i really should be putting more in cobuild maybe less in other things and just trying to figure it out so that's good to know though because i was curious about the low the low point like what the minimum was
yeah definitely i'm curious like what you've been thinking too in terms of what you're allocating
yeah i'm not because it this makes more sense to me in term in terms of a long term strategy like where i can be supporting creators but also sort of owning a piece of that i don't know so i have to kinda like think it think it a little bit through a little bit more of what what makes sense and where but this is making a lot of sense to me so i've been i've been excited about it it's been really it's really cool mechanics
yeah i'm loving it too appreciate appreciate that i i liked what martin said about like you're kinda dca ing into your own personalized farcaster index which is cool framing
yeah yeah we love martin love how that i love how that guy thinks
yes no it means which one's dca is that a
national is that national no that's dulles we're all going to dulles anyway speaking of planes
what did we miss rocketman what else did we wanna know before we let you get on your plane
quick
get some sleep he's had no sleep he's had no sleep until brooklyn sorry wrong it went wrong what wrong wrong artist for today yeah so is there anything else that people should know when they're setting up or anything else that you have coming that you want people to sorta be on the lookout for
yeah i mean i think the biggest thing is like if you have frustrations or things you wanna do or ideas hit me up happy to build them we're building stuff quickly and we're having fun doing it so just hit me up and we'll make it happen and then the other thing is we are definitely gonna go big on kind of like project coins or like helping people group together and build and so if you run something or even if you don't because we can just bootstrap on the coin but if you're interested in like helping to incentivize your community to work together and earn together definitely hit me up because we're gonna be building that out over the next week
okay amazing and we'll let you get to your flight thanks for jumping in appreciate it it's been really great to chat anything else adrienne before we let him go
no thanks for thanks for hanging out get some sleep dude and come back come back when you're when you're ready when i
and i really love cobuild it's the it's kinda the first app that i'm kind of jumping into as a because it does it because it's not really tipping i'm not a tipper i'm notoriously not
not a tipper i am a tipper and i also like it so there it's something something for everyone something for everyone amazing thanks so much we're excited that you were able to join us and we will see you around have safe travels
bye bye my light just went off i'm trying to get it to come back on oh it's really hot that's why that's not good ow that's probably why anyway that was really fun so safe travels rocketman and we'll see you on the other side i really i really do love cobuild i think it's it's unique in its in its approach for sure
and i did think it was funny because like yeah all of a sudden had buys on my zora coin even though i hadn't launched it yet and i was like wait what yeah wait how's that happening so that was really weird so it's cool to see these approaches but i think i'm gonna i really do think i'm gonna increase my budget in that space and kinda decrease at other places and try to try to like figure this out a little bit i also think it's worth it to experiment a little bit more deeply with just to see just to see what happens so
when i first set mine up also i only did recasts recast and quotcasts not likes and replies but i think i'll probably i'm not bending my budget fast enough so i think i'll have to expand
oh i'm spending mine too fast and i think that's a problem yeah i like very liberally and that's why i'm starting to figure out like okay i am spending quite a bit of money on tips and all these things and i'm like i need to get a handle on this
i definitely need to get a handle on this okay now i need to re need to open up all my other links so one moment while i get that done hi but that was really fun i'm glad we were able to get him on here before he's taken off i still don't know the elevator for covid cobuild i wish i wish you had said that two seconds ago
yeah yeah i think the idea is just a a new a new way to back creators is what i would say but you're actually i would say it's a it's a way to invest in creators really but i hate to use the word invest because i feel like that makes it a little too elevated mhmm we need another word for that you know what i mean we need another word for that but it's that to me is what it is
support you're supporting so you set it up very simply like you would any other tipping so it's like micro transactions you're gonna preapprove a budget in in usdc i think is the only one whatever it is but you're preapproving a budget automatically and you can configure every time you like comment reply recast you're going to support with whatever it is 5¢ 10¢ whatever 25¢ whatever you want it to be but instead of transferring your token to the creator wallet like you do in tips where you're just like here's a quarter you are going to you're buying a token that the creator wants you to buy so if the creator has a project token or a their own creator coin or something else then that's they're just it's kind of like they're directing what you're what you're purchasing when you if you go to the cobuild app for the first time i think i i thought he did a really good job of explaining kind of what it is so instead of giving someone money tipping someone you're buying their coin when you like comment or follow and i guess that's good because i mean you say invest to me i just i i think of them as like little lottery tickets like i'm not that's a good way
to put it
not one to think about like i'm not going into zora and deciding like let me make my portfolio of creators like not i'm just not gonna do that but the idea of like sure one the creator is setting this up like i'm you know and it's like a little lottery ticket if if this whole thing that we're doing works out in the end and everyone's got a token and everyone's valued that way cool you you know you bought those tokens early so i think it's interesting
yeah i do too i think it's it's an interesting new mechanic you know who knows like it's it's it's kinda fun i'm enjoying like just playing around with it and seeing like i i was surprised at how quickly i was picking up tokens that maybe i don't even realize exist for these different people that as i'm just liking their posts so it's like i'm not doing anything intentionally to like buy their token or whatever it's just happening without me having to think too much about it i am now trying to get these links up come on
because i had all these closed down while we were doing that part so one second do you notice that i'm in dark mode by the way i am in dark mode today
i am in dark mode
i was you mean you personally are in dark mode like black background black hat black shirt
i am in dark mode
are in purple mode i did notice that
yeah you get the purple token in the background i was i did notice that what's going
does it's beautiful
i'm trying to bring up the cast from v that talks about dark mode but it is just not wanting to cooperate at this moment but we do have a new dark mode that is now released so there was a purple hue to dark mode apparently i am unfamiliar with it because i never use it but apparently there was a purply hue in dark mode that people did not care for so this is a new true dark mode new improvement on the all the different colors and all these different design things so very cool nice to see and for some reason i cannot bring up his cast but it will be in our show notes yeah everything is just failing for me at this moment so good times good times really good
should we start using a client for our show should we be bringing up links on zapper or the base app like or uno what is going on
maybe we can't we can't so i can't do that
that is the problem so we have limited options so i'm gonna skip ahead to this note and maybe i'll bring that other one back up if it actually appears so this is from b new earn reward points for verifying wallets if you verify ownership of any wallet with at least $25 in it you'll earn 500 points to your weekly rewards go to settings verified address addresses verify address on web or mobile this stacks on top of our existing rewards 1,000 points if you swap more than $100 500 points if you have greater than 25 in your farcaster wallet so get in there and verify another wallet and you will earn some reward points go ahead
you know this is an excellent question like why are we doing this i don't know maybe it's to see the here's my guess one of the things you can see from that is sort of the tam if you will of the farcaster ecosystem so right that's what i'm guessing but what's your thoughts
right
which is like how do you it just like just intelligence on farcaster as that's my guess so i you know we did remember this this snickerdoodle state of the state of the state of farcaster report from last year and kind of i think that was one of the first times i saw someone trying to quantify like how much how much value is locked into farcaster and what people have and and but i don't totally see the benefit as like an end user except that you're giving me a boost on the leaderboard which i don't care about so i've already i've already like verified a few wallets anyway because i had one from before but
right i'm just saying but you know what i think you have to reverify because i'm not seeing points from that which is weird so i don't know what's going on there
didn't still i'm not seeing a double boost or maybe they didn't do them yet because i i have a couple verified wallets but it was because you needed external wallets to do things for a while there because we didn't have a built in one so i had these external wallets connected anyway because of that way back when
way back when like two years ago i don't even know i don't i don't know it feels like seventeen years ago but it's probably you're prob six months is might be accurate
and docs
and docs your wallets yeah docs your wallets i have found this helpful though when i've been going to like being able to see the wallets there have been helpful on occasion if i needed to send somebody something and just needed to verify the wallet address because i was sending it not within farcaster so even if i was sending it to their farcaster wallet or if i was sending it somewhere else like it's super helpful to have it on the about yeah to be able to pull that and be able to send something to them without having to ask so that is cool speaking of rewards this from pichi the leaderboard is a vibe coded excel spreadsheet excel sheet cosplaying as true engagement metric dashboard and if your score dipped it's not you your work didn't suddenly get worse treating the leaderboard as an important metric is the fastest way to resent this place and then of course i added this just treat it like the game it is also it's not your worth so related related news
also she sent that from the base app so which leaderboard is she talking about because the base app has their base has their own creator rewards also backed by talent which we had on the show a few weeks ago anyway so
i think she did i think she did she's been on a anyone i haven't seen anyone whining about the base leaderboard yet as much like i think so i'm pretty sure like yeah it's it's the farcaster one
she she gets like that sometime it's it's quite enjoyable it's very entertaining i recommend it
no lies no lies there no lies there the i
the algorithm is the algorithm and it's not so you can be casting and i've had weeks where like one week i was way up there and then the very next week it's like i can't get past 200 and often a lot of times that's been the shift in the algo not necessarily because i've changed anything i was doing at all so yeah it's a yeah it's a funky little thing i gotta say
cast about this stage cast to work oh we're having some weird delays okay what did you cast about that you didn't send
i drafted a cast about the leaderboard but i didn't send it because i didn't actually wanna add to the conversation on the feed because but should i just give you my tldr
yes please i'd love to hear okay
too much focus on the freaking leaderboard so i think we should focus less on the leaderboard which is like this ranking pvp and also like what has farcaster done for me lately mentality and more into the recognition of farcaster it's has it's still not found product market fit it's still not you know it's like it's still a little bit of an experiment it's still early and you're here early helping shape the network so instead i think focus on the totality of the rewards not the leaderboard like how cool is it that marco is how much money are they spending every week on rewards i
a lot
dollars i don't know like 25,000 something like that yeah it's a lot
they're giving out money and you know what you're getting a piece of it and you're and it's and you're shaping a network so that's cool so i feel like focus more on you know ask not what merkel can do for you ask how you can like what are you doing to shape shape farcaster so that's all it was my yeah cranky post i didn't send it
i like that though and couple comments is the leaderboard in the room with us now why yes and i like this i agree sort the leaderboard by lease activity well that's most of the how many accounts on there millions now like well over a million something most of them aren't active so what you're seeing on that leaderboard are the people who are actually the people contributing to the network and i love that we get to be recognized for that and get to get a little token of appreciation but yeah i don't i don't i don't really the only times i think about it is if i get really close to a different tier and for me it's a game but it's if i'm there you know if i'm circling around 69 just because it's fun you know i'm trying to it's so hard to like hit a specific number mhmm so it's a game like to me that's just a game but i don't start like i don't change the way i cast just to do to hit something on the leaderboard i just do my thing and if all of a sudden something hits cool that's great but i'm not like going out of my way trying to to make things happen there are people who are like very much so that's their their goal and if that's also then creating and contributing really good content fantastic you know if it's taking away from that then not good yeah
yeah i mean if your content is about complaining about the leaderboard or just like hey
yeah that don't do that yeah just don't do that yeah we're we've got a little bit of a lag it's something weird happening okay so this finally came up this was from b a slightly darker dark dark mode got a glow up with a brand new color scheme we also touched up the notification screen and made a few tweaks to light mode as well mobile only for now rolling out to all users h c blockheim tanish h q big ol' big ol'ol and sloke and one of the things that i noticed i don't know if you noticed this in the notifications the names are now a little bit bigger fonts like some of the fonts
that was something that jumped out to me for sure oops what is happening did i completely crash what is going on oh okay there we go yeah i'm having some issues i think my computer's just like nope too many links today you've gotta get rid of some so we're gonna move through this pretty quickly
this was interesting to me and it's not really happening yet but it's something they're talking about proposing a copy left license for snapchain we need to release snapchain under an open source license for people to be able to use the code safely we're proposing using g p l v three which is a copy left license this means you can use modify redistribute it freely as long as it any changes are also made public and available to all we've previously favored the mit license for farcaster repos but vitalik has a good argument for the use of copy left here which we largely agree with i don't know if you saw this or had any thoughts on it like in terms of the differences between these different approaches
well i've not really done any homework or have been following kind of what the what the licenses had been on mhmm i also just heard the term copy left for the first time i'm not a like a super open source expert here so i think it's probably worth a discussion and to learn up about but i don't think i'm the right one to lead it
yeah i don't think i know enough yet either but it's good to see them thinking about different approaches and you know i appreciate vitalik's dedication to open source and so cool cool to see so the discussion's happening if you have thoughts if this is if you're especially if you're a dev if you're somebody who's building on snapchain and you have thoughts about this definitely dive into that discussion because that might that might impact your you know crashing again okay goody this is so fun today
why are these lengths killing me today i don't know like this is not that different than what we usually do but for some reason today we're having challenges this i'm really excited about this is profile tokens problem many people want to share their association with a specific token maybe it's an app token their creator coin or token community proposal add a profile token field to profiles to share one self declared token association on your farcaster profile this would be super helpful so you'd see something like that like hire or whatever token is like sorta your thing or your own creator token and it would show up in the farcaster profile by the way i really like blockheim's background of course it's very well designed this looks great so there is an fip for this for profile tokens we plan to add this as a client specific feature in the farcaster app soon and publish the data to snapchain once there's consensus on the design we propose adding a new profile token user data field that stores a caip 19 token url i don't even know what that means profile tokens are not ownership or creator verifications just self declared one way associations to start we'll support erc 20 tokens and solana tokens on the chain supported by farcaster wallet
thoughts i think this is cool cool
yeah seems it right now have mine pinned to the top and mostly that's for safety purposes of like this is the one that i launched on
prof from yeah exactly and then i added the the zora one in the thread just so that mostly the safety thing of like you know if you're looking for this like don't buy the other thing
by the way i love oh i had the wallet and it has that now when you go or when you go to the token page you click on the token you can see how it was created who the creator was super helpful very helpful appreciate that i'm sorry what were you gonna say
oh yeah for sure absolutely oh well i assume that's what linda's gonna do i would assume that will be her choice
ted definitely
i haven't worn that shirt again after farcon by the way i gave i wore it once and i was like i can't do anything else i i'm done
i think it's one of those ones that you pull out for special occasions a special in a safe space holiday yes we keep it in we keep it you know okay fine in the in the in the closet pull it out for special dick butt holidays
i mean there's that too i i'm i'm good with that option as well i mean you know me just fractionalized nfts
same thing you know me i know i love nfts nfts are just so so much cuter but here we are here we are we have to move with the metas so this from linda hell yeah farcaster featured on the ethereum twitter account with three point nine million followers so that is very cool and here's my one question to the ethereum account what the hell took so long so we thank you let's go give it some love over on on on twitter so very nice to see that and i actually you know i joke but seriously though i appreciate the ethereum foundation actually starting to step things up and really start to do some you know marketing and focusing on projects and things like that so thank you we do appreciate that don't mean to be snarky and i'm lagging again are lagging this is a livestream we cannot do this alright oh this is important we had a bug this is from b we had a bug in our back end which incorrectly thought that 2,000 users were out of storage storage units and prevented them from logging in i didn't know you could be prevented from logging in if you don't have any storage left that's interesting i thought it just kicked stuff out for you so that's interesting the protocol was unaffected all your data is safe and you can use other clients we are working on a fix hope to have it resolved soon so if you had this issue it is resolved now but if you're still having any issues let them know yeah that was kinda crazy so i yeah
yeah well and that's happened but usually the whole thing's down it's not like fine just you it's not just you this was interesting and i had no idea who this was and then i dove into the thread and then i understood who this was so this is brianjckim go j c kim saying is this true and this was nick patasan the nick patasan over on twitter saying next up rebranding farcaster x y z honored to be able to rock with dwr and varun on this let's go and then varun did confirm yep we're going to be working with them later this year brian appears to be very happy about that and also wants some meatloaf and thank you six for asking the question i was afraid to ask which is who is this and it's the guy who created i love new york so seems legit seems legit so that's cool
worked with milton glaser for a decade now my most viral logo is a heart just carrying the torch milty so or maybe lovable i don't know
maybe this one was yeah glazer made that but he worked with he worked for glazer apparently so
as long as it's purple i'm good
some people have thoughts on the rebrand such as crackercaster i don't think that quite works maybe in florida
farcaster rebrand ideas neon is far and then of course toady is requesting a neon purple arch as the rebrand so also another option so you know if you have thoughts but i also thought this was interesting it came in a perfect time for this cast this is from ant antimofm interesting new take on minimalism founder mode versus manager mode and i was thinking about this and i'm like it is absolutely true that's exactly what's happening mhmm is that you see the original designs which are 100% better period full stop much better and unique and they're getting just watered down because manager mode comes in and thinks we have to appeal to gen z and let's make it you know very blocky and it's just not good so stop it just stop it just stop it mama's had enough
stop it stop it
but it's true it's true i mean they just the same thing with like jaguar and we've just keep seeing it over and over again and it never works out well so just stop it enough enough no more this was really fun we had a chat with thekris from the optimism show and did an interview with them so this is an interview with us media bots and mini apps farcaster is a creative playground so building an on chain media empire okay
empire i think we're gonna call it empire right now maybe it gets to like no quotes empire but you know we're very tiny so this is very cool so this was building on media on chain first with gm farcaster how they built a livestream native community powered show why farcaster is evolving from protocol to culture engine building with mini apps community tools and open frameworks and thank you we had a great time chatting with you the chris it was such a good combo and we talked a lot about our chatters so chatters just know we mentioned you would love lots of love because you help us you help us keep keep going every day and we appreciate you so yeah it was really fun i haven't listened back yet i wanna go listen back and see what's what
i listened to the first little bit when i was cooking dinner last night i liked we were kind of going down memory little walk down memory lane about kind of prepermissionless days and it was fun
yeah it was it was a fun a fun
yeah because they because they went back to like where you know how we started and all this so if you weren't around like way back in the beginning like if you never joined us on unlonely if you never collected us on zora and all and had that be the only place you could watch the recording by the way for a while you know this will this will catch you up on all of these
and we gave yes to crypto a shout out if you're watching us on youtube he is the reason we are ever on youtube because we were only on on unlonely and
for a very long time get annoyed yeah and i don't blame him so we finally we finally did the thing so my hot chain ears are ringing yes they were yes they were yes you got a you got some love this so we got a few more things this from neynar a reminder that while you can of course tag me to chat in public we also have a neynar ai companion mini app that's open to all farcaster users regardless of your score so you can you can tag it or you can just go into the app and it's pretty cool so just click on there it comes with some preloaded questions you can even ask so you can it can get you started and i like what they're building it's pretty cool but it doesn't wanna load for me right now and that's not a you problem it's a me problem so we'll move on
it's just one of those days this was really interesting from mvr curious what the contents of a deleted cast were vibeshift now links you to dune where you can restore deleted casts you might have to log it might have to be logged into dune and run the query thanks for the example jellyfish so that's pretty cool if you like come across something and it's deleted i've had that happen because we save cast that we find very interesting or that we refer to every once in while we have a little folder and i think at least one of them has disappeared so that is cool to see so thanks for that m m v m v r love that always very cool couple more things this from justin on i'm just making sure they're actually loading before i pull them on the screen use quidly to send tokens to accounts and channels on farcaster use quidly to send tokens to contracts and group chats on telegram use quidly to send tokens to friends servers and channels on discord use quidly dot x y z so i didn't even i i just hurt recently realized that this is what you could use quiddly for was like to send to whole groups as well and very cool yeah
so there you go this would have been helpful with my students but i haven't quite set up properly yet for that this from quotient this was also very cool in terms of data analysis tip in campaigns deliver measurable results for token projects here's the data from the recent betterment campaign which was guided by quotient analytics every dollar in better distributed by the campaign drove 4 plus dollars in buy volume wow i i'm assuming that's from attention like just how much you were seeing better being talked about and tipped and all of that was probably why average daily buy volume jumped from 5,000 the week before the campaign was announced to 26,000 in the run up to and during the campaign and i'm assuming the run up too is because people were trying to get that 50,000,000 they needed in order to participate as one of the allocators and then 400 plus new holders who bought on average a $110 or better these new holders are high quality with a median farcaster cred score of point six six which corresponds to the top 2,300 users on farcaster it's a lot of interesting data we work closely with the tipn team to optimize campaign allocations to make sure incentives go to authentic and align users and not farmers reach out to ruminations or nifty time if you're interested in running a common tipping campaign for your project so very cool and then if you are one of the allocators there's also it has ended so you can go into the tipn app and you should have a claim of a portion of better for yourselves as well for participating so that was the other part of the incentive so there's like an interesting incentive alignment we've kinda we're just talking about that with cobuild in terms of the way this is all sort of aligning and if you're just giving away your money via tips sometimes that doesn't feel as good as getting a benefit back so very cool to see different experiments around that and that's what i mean by like i need to start like being a little more intentional about this and maybe it's you know i know a lot of people do this with streaming and i really should but don't where they're like okay this month i'm doing netflix and then i'm canceling and then i'm going over here to apple tv and then i'm canceling and then i'm switching to prime and i'm gonna go through all the things there and then they it was what it's smart it's very smart because you don't have unlimited time or money so that's a smart thing to do and it feels similar but mhmm i don't know but i do like with this with this approach too you're also allocating you're not it's not coming out of your pocket when you're doing that but except you do have to add a little bit of usdc to tip in so it kinda is and it kinda not like you're tipping out the better tips that aren't coming from you you're getting a lot of that but you're still tipping out a little bit of usdc also so there's a little combo there so interesting experiments interesting experiments happening all around and speaking of experiments i don't know how this is gonna go we'll see what if the whole farcaster community voted on you that's exactly what's coming with han or hot or not face offs tokens badges leaderboards soon everyone will know who's hot and who's not screenshot one joe blow versus nounish prof screenshot two erica versus seagal this is the only reason i saw this because i got tagged in it i don't know how i feel about this but you know again not your worth but also joe blow's pretty hot so i i don't know how i can take him because i just don't see it happening
but we'll see how hot or not will not die it won't die like it it just it is a internet con internet constant
it's never i know it's the first thing i thought of too i'm like and we're back
it doesn't seem to last like you know like you they don't last but they pop up all the time
there's always a new version
always a new version of this and here it is so we'll see we'll see
right i mean so okay
and i don't know if it's like the token or the account i don't exactly know the details yet
i do it is the accountant it is the account it is the person it is are you hotter than joe blow joe blow
stop joe blow i am not
yeah okay
it's not my worth it's not my worth anyway moving on
we love you max we're just kidding okay but we love erica adrienne you can take this one list of this is from adrienne list of projects i've coded for gm farcaster the o gwarpee.eth which was f c one zero one at first an ai bot who will answer your questions using its knowledge about gm farcaster the gm farcaster mini app so you can watch our livestream or latest episode without leaving the app allure explorer which shows every cast we've featured on gm farcaster and lets you search to see yours our main informational website gmfarcaster.com a media kit with information for potential sponsors i was i was a software engineer in the early two thousands but when i got into people management i stopped coding i took a web three dev course in 2022 which was my first time getting back into the hands of coding in fifteen years and only with ai copilots have i been able to do so much for gm farcaster i've learned a ton this past year and look forward to contributing continuing to iterate build and learn and then here's all the little things right here and even changing up the lower one too it's very cute so i love it anything you wanna add to that
this is my software developer arc the only thing i'll say is i've been building in public the first project i really worked on when i really got back in was the ai bot and it took me it took me a good like two months of like intense focus to figure out how to do that the media kit was like the first web app i had built in forever that took a really long time and it just keeps getting easier so there's always one other thing that's gonna like trip you up so this week i was adding dynamic share images to the lure app took me two days like two full days and and and in some ways you'd be like that's nothing but also the expectation is like i understood what i needed to do like it should be easy but i ended up having it just like things get more complicated so
but it's super fun so i guess not everyone needs to be a dev but if you are just there's the tools out there are like can help you get started and as you go every time like it just things get easier and easier as you keep iterating so i just encourage people to try things
and you're just having you're having fun which is great
i love i love that you're like you kinda found your your thing that is just keeping you keeping you happy which is amazing i love that this from mvr speaking of mini apps be careful out there what are all these new mining apps on my feed what are we mining mini app dev rewards for their devs all poppie clones yeah so i'm really just pulling this up i do not have any specific information about the specific things the apps that are mentioned in this thread don't know their intentions don't know the teams behind them nothing like that but just mostly saying this as a like be wary out there just like be aware that you know be careful where where you're putting your time and your trust is what what i will say on that
did you do i a few i don't know it's a few weeks ago i was saying that the gm farcaster mini app was on the leaderboard like i was gonna maybe get dev rewards and creator rewards for the first time that was a total lie
didn't that is no one
plus a leader i was not on the leaderboard i there's another ranking like there's some i got confused in terms of ranking like there's like a mini app maybe there's a trending list i think that's what it is there's like a trending list of
mhmm
of apps and i was under like our farcaster mini app was in oh the top okay but that's different than the list for the dev rewards which is based on usage and maybe like on chain activity too
yeah i thought there was i thought it was oh so what is trending picking up do we know for sure
yeah i don't know if it's just open but i
yeah and i knew that the dev rewards included on chain transactions as being a big part of that so that's interesting so
and the reason yeah so the reason i bring that up is if you look at the dev rewards like who you know it's like it tends to be some of these kind of you know yeah not like the the ones that mine let's just say the mining apps maybe yeah like on chain activity on chain on chain
so eggs is that what you're saying
lots of balloons lots of
eggs mhmm no no hate no no shade on those apps it's fine you think it'll be hard for our little media company streaming app to get the developer awards
i think it's gonna be tough at this point i think there's a lot of people who are gaming the system as well and and that's you know i get it like i think some of them are legitimately gaming the system in other words they are able to drive attention in a way that you know works for their goal and others are you know be a little more shady about it i'll just put it that way i don't know i don't know i don't wanna because i i don't i don't have enough information about who's in the background to really call anything out but just be careful we're mining our hopes yep we are mining our hopes and hope is punk but anyway be careful out there that's that was my my my reason for bringing that up was just be careful out there folks i don't want anybody getting scammed and i'm gonna mention this this is not along the same lines i don't think but we're gonna just talk about this real quick deployer that said if 10 people i know have bought it i end up as exit liquidity could be true could be true so and that not particular to this particular token this could be true at any time any place by the time you see something trending it could be too late just be aware be careful be careful how much you put in know that you know there's risk of permanent loss at all times so be careful out there then pichi jumped in and said the game is really fun it is really fun i do like it it's cute i played pet rock life this is the token that came out for that but then there was a little bit of controversy so i'm not gonna read this whole thing but i think you got if you are interested you can jump into it it's pretty long he did write a whole paragraph you know related to it there was a cast by somebody else whoops was this two different things yeah there was two different things here somebody called it out because it was getting some big buys so zwillow had mentioned you know there's a coin certain wallets keep selling massive amounts i don't see the buys i only see the sells what's going on and in particular there was a particular account that bought a large position in this particular coin and some folks were wondering if this person was advising the team and were concerned about it so so there's two things going on one if somebody's buying is owning a large amount of the supply of a particular token that's obviously something to be aware of right it could be a problem but literally like if you look at solana or xrp guess what 70% of those are owned by the company by the way in case you didn't know so that happens in lots of different areas and you just have to be aware and understand what that risk is because if that person sells but especially on these very small tokens that person sells like you're gonna lose a lot of value if you're buying it to support the creator or the dev it really doesn't matter but if you're buying it thinking generational wealth be careful because that's probably not happening so just be careful out there is what i'm trying to say and d y o r i personally you know i i did reach out to the dev the for for pet rock life and just say hey you know what's going on here you know i don't know them except on here they're non there's always those risks i like the game it's cute it's just a cute little world that you can run around in you can jump on trampolines it's very cute it has new hats you can try on hats i mean it's really not anything like super complicated in terms of like you know what it is it's it's fun and you know i've hung out there with bert wurst and crew and we just jump around and run around this little world and it's cute and that's it so just be aware but in general for anything out there be aware of that kind of stuff and that's that so and you guys can dive into the controversy should you want to but also yeah if you see something trending it might be too late it might not kinda depends
one lap and one note on this also
if you're tagging me on stuff maybe don't call me a grandma
just saying it's not gonna go over well and i am gonna hit you with a golden girls jiff so just be aware don't do that
prof i've never seen you take anything ever personally and i think i just found your achilles heel
might be no i kind of i actually thought it was funny because i'm just like here's what i thought was funny is that this account which was brand spanking new brand spanking new account anon no idea what's going on tagged me and a bunch of other people like dwr a whole bunch of people in it and i'm like and as i got to and they're creating i don't know if they're creating a i don't exactly know what's going on with this thing but as part of it it said something about you know it had some nice complimentary things it said something about the grandma or something and i'm like oh no no no oh no no no no this is not the way to get any positive attention from me it might be a way to get attention i don't think they were rage baiting by the way somebody said rage baiting they weren't rage baiting they were i think being somewhat sincere but i didn't like first of all being tagged in something like where i don't know you and you're clearly trying to engagement farm on the backs of these folks but also the way in which it was done i was just like are you serious right now like you're gonna tag me try to get my attention and then call me a grandma like uh-uh like no no no no no don't do that so just don't do that i meant to put it in the don't do this channel i forgot
and then we have one last thing which is really funny one last thing this is from phil dan's been on vacation in case you didn't know took a little holiday hasn't been casting very much suddenly it reappeared a little bit and then phil had posted this i cannot believe i just saw dan at burning man wearing nipple pasties and then said i have been told i cannot share pictures otherwise i will be banned from the rewards leader for for life these are jokes people but then dan said burning man was crazy posted some really beautiful photos of where he i think he actually was gorgeous by the way great photos and then thumb came in with this are you ready did you see this yet today
yeah i was just warning warning taking one for the team so if you haven't if you're unfamiliar this is not a real picture if you are unfamiliar with the actual real picture during farcon dan was was farcon right i think dan was over the or was it was it denver
it was farcon and he was he could hear the club going at like 01:30 in the morning and then he went down there because he was he kept casting about about it went down there and took a picture like proof of proof of club 01:28 in the morning or something like that so thumb took that picture and adjusted it and made it burning man style and it's just freaking hilarious so there you go so i leave you i leave you with that photo to get through the rest of the day and the weekend
can do was hilarious like oh my god you guys
no it was not it was not real have you gotten your rock camera yet
no i'm waiting july i'm waiting for my camera
i would love to have it i would love to have it before base camp yeah because that would be fun to just sorta do some stuff with alright anything i missed adrienne before we call it
no you mentioned you might do some you might do a retake stream possibly
yes i need to set up my retake i need to play around and stream so like you did last week i'll probably do it this afternoon and just activate it so i guess that's heads up i'm gonna get there's gonna be a new creator coin spun up for me isn't that too many
it's way too many
no because this one's clanker and it runs on clanker and your zora runs on zora and yeah never the twain she'll meet yeah
anyway yeah i'll probably just get that set up just so i can play around and see what it is i don't know what i'm gonna stream maybe i'll train my baby mon and i can't reveal i can't reveal my clanker mon because i'm still on like level three it's taking a really long time
i just bought i just ended up buying five because i couldn't wait and i just wanted to buy them so that's what i did so that's why i did my reveal
i might stream this later on because i got chip nails so if you don't know if you're not familiar with chip nails they have a little nfc chip so your socials are right on your on your nail and people can tap and get your info and i've been wanting to try these out so i bought a couple and i have another set ready for base camp so i thought i'd try these out so i might i might do that i might stream that as well so i don't know maybe it'll jump on with adrienne and and do my nails while she trains her her baby on something like that anyway look for that and then we will be back we are gonna be on monday 11:30am eastern it is labor day but we're gonna just labor instead because we've only got one more week and then adrienne is gonna be gone for three weeks really need to get those guests so it's coming fast
so join us on monday happy friday everybody anything else before we call it
we're gonna have some people from devconnect on the show next week to talk about plans for devconnect
okay let me know
oh so are we gonna switch monday to tuesday maybe
okay anyway we'll talk about that offline
call me and we may have the the creators who are gonna pop by too i don't know if that's gonna be next week i will let you know and yeah so gm everybody have a great weekend and we will see you next week and with that bye bye