Transcript: Red Dot Anxiety Meets Farcaster Token Fever: GM Farcaster ep296

adrienne, nounishprof ยท GM Farcaster

we're like very matchy we're very matchy matchy today we

i'm wearing the other one i'm not yeah i didn't even realize just realized you're wearing that one

this is funny

and i went to change my background i wasn't looking at what adrienne's was yet and it was the same one

okay we chose the same yes chose the same virtual background and gray gray gm forecaster shirts from 2024 these are

this is the i have the different one on i know which one you have on i have but yours is still '24 yeah it's from '4 aren't you wearing yeah you're wearing the original

yeah yeah yeah

you're wearing the east denver one

but there's but they're both vintage my point is they're they're vintage

vintage we're wearing vintage today some people wear vintage versace we wear vintage gmfc there you go

alright good

alright we gotta get this tweeted out and casted out and i haven't done speaking of cast out that's coming up soon i haven't done any of these things yet adrienne i haven't told anybody that we're live we gotta do that so let me just tell people we're live if you are watching already retweet recast let people know we are live

i let everyone who has our mini app added nowhere live because

that is just a single click of a button

just a single click as opposed to having

to dev i

we i think we can create a tool that will automatically maybe cast and

can we do that that would be amazing that's what we need but we also need the retweet and i don't know how we're gonna get there but yeah we gotta let people know when we're live because the algo doesn't always tell you so this is what we do

very excited to chat today we've got a pretty light day it's nothing too major right i don't think there's nothing controversial

you're being sarcastic i hope

no i'm not i'm not it feels like little things but nothing like major it feels like a it feels pretty chill i'm talking about in the world of farcaster not the world of the world the world of the world is like anything but chill at the moment

so i'm excited to just chat and talk about what's going on alright

some spice in the past day

little bit yeah little bit i you know what i think we forgot to pull one of those casts i think i forgot to pull a couple of those but i'll okay i'll fix that in just a second by the way though we haven't done our little intro so let me drop this little video and we'll be back in forty seconds

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gm farcaster it is wednesday october 8 i almost said friday i was trying to move things along and you are here with nounish prof and adrienne for twenty nine minutes of farcaster news to start your day and i'm grabbing some of the spiciness that you were talking about because i didn't pull some of that yesterday

right starting starting with the spice

no we're not gonna start with the spice definitely not we do not start with spice

we we start with the fun stuff first but i'm trying to find the i'm looking for the spice and i can't seem to find it all of a sudden

but i'll find it after okay let's jump in and just talk about some of the some of the some of the good news some of the some of the happiness and sunshine i think it's this one yeah there we go so let's start with the leaderboard rewards leaderboard result summer has ended but the summer season is just beginning with chase summer continuing his climb from outside the top 10 last week to number two edging out everyone but burt wurst our favorite dog on farcaster also don't tell my other dog also at number 18 is madison summer thoughtful mom and well rounded noncrypto normie well can you be a normie if you host the raleigh fc friday in your home probably not i don't think so this is like you trying to pretend you're a normie it's pretty funny

i'm so normal so not so not

you're you're a

gen x mom who hosts a crypto podcast okay

forecaster forecaster podcast totally normal it's totally normal i can

yeah like everybody does that every soccer mom is investing he's playing around with crypto and hosting

podcasts moving on for ted it must not have been all about that base app this week as she's back at number three must have posted with fc a lot more this week noun with another top numb at top finish at number four and did you see her cast this week that what she used uses the rewards for tuition a good reminder to us that although there may be regulars in the top 10 it doesn't mean there aren't great stories there down leaderboard we've got everyone's lovable the dude at number 17 bribing people to get

all time high bribe with his new mini app just to be clear it's october and that means baseball playoffs and kagami at number 24 he actually does more than baseball by the way and piano camila at number 26 first top 30 i believe meme coveted 69 goes to strawberry i was very close i was circling that

i was 70 at one point super super close

i was actually 69 at one point and then i went up and then i went down and yeah i think i i don't know 63 or something so close so close so you were not in the top 10 this week how'd it feel

it felt good way too much pressure to be in that top 10 way too many eyeballs on you you don't want it trust me it's not

i would not wish

the top 10 on my worst enemy

it takes a lot of work again we we shout these out every week because it does take a lot of work and this is who is bringing fabulous content to our timeline and we wanna shout them out and say thanks so thanks

i'm back in my comfort zone

just hanging out hanging out in the with the middle class upper middle class i'd say to be honest but yeah somebody's oh i think it was thumb who said i don't something like i don't know how how you do it or i used to like consistently we're in that range and it's like this is just my normal casting i'm not trying to stay in that range it's just where i end up so yeah it yeah it's it just is this from a farcaster pro subscribers only pay a point 05% wallet fee for ethereum swaps we've lowered our fees again from point 15% to point o 5% so that's exciting i did like ted's suggestion you should put this in terms of what it means for a $100 or one k or one e swap and that's actually a good idea yeah put it in something a little more tangible so people can see like what it is they're saving

but also from a marketing perspective no one actually cares right it's like you're getting the message out that it's just farcaster has the lowest fees

has the lowest fees exactly farcaster pro has the lowest fees to be

pro you can pay a what is it a $130 a year

plus $120 a year and you can save 50ยข and it pays for itself if you swap a lot

if you swap a lot it'll pay for itself but also and this probably will never happen again let me be clear before i say this but we ended up with like airdrops and nfts and all kinds

that it already literally paid for itself like it literally did so there you go

again n f a d y o r this probably won't happen again i think it was a one time

one off but you can save if you swap a lot and also just fyi if you're on twitter

i've saved a lot by not signing up for pro

ah no you would've burned money the the wallet is really good for newbies i'm just i tested that out that like with my class and experimenting with a few different wallets for them and the farcaster wallet by far easiest for them to get very quickly how it works and what to do and everything's very clearly laid out so if you have newbies that might be the way to go yes to crypto i agree the real message is that farcaster has a wallet that itself isn't lauded enough and i agree with that true story moving on this from the headless horse facts new on farcaster recent trades see recent buys over a thousand tap the new card on the search screen to view all one tap to swap or set a trade notification happy whale watching so very cool and this is i think connected with the trade notifications that they added fairly recently as well so if you want to follow your favorite traders yes your crypto and copy trade them might not be a bad idea n f a d y o r you can now do that and see what their recent trades were so there you go but i will warn you and this is one of the things we talked about the other day a lot of the traders use different wallets for their like heavy trading but those who are using the farcaster wallet you can you can follow along follow along by the way did you notice something about the screenshot here i think this might be part of the new branding

different color purple

yeah it feels slightly different is this like part of that new brand upper and

also so and dan also talked about how branding would be role it's not like a big oh here's the new rebrand it's just things slowly changing so i think i think we're seeing some yeah some updates

seeing some i'm seeing some interesting experimentation here this feels different from this so i'm wondering if this is the new color i don't know anyway just noticed that that looked a little different either that or no one's being consistent and there'll be something completely different next week which is also possible we do have this new experiment from dwr at zeroxideas trying an experiment where we surface trade ideas from people on crypto twitter format of the post is the ticker embed and link to a tweet that's it a couple of disclaimers we have no ownership of of the asset two n f a d y o r adults have agency if this ends up being popular we'll we'll figure out how to migrate the ct generated ideas into trade ideas feed okay so this is playing around with expanding upon the trade ideas and top stories sort of approach to helping to surface when things are trending or interesting different tickers to sort of surface those things and hopefully lead to some alpha people have feelings people had thoughts on this

as as you can imagine

as you can imagine

oh oh me i have thoughts

you had thoughts you have feelings

to be clear hold on what you're pulling up is not my thoughts about trade ideas

okay alright

i know let me be clear so the other part of this and hold on is this it no this isn't it i don't think i have that one

there's a notification you can set for trade ideas in general this is not specific to zora x ideas there's two things happening yeah

yeah zora x ideas is a new account automated account or whatever that's controlled that will be yes pulling in tweets like from right twitter right and and then sharing the asset doesn't tell you like here's the tweet here's the asset doesn't tell you whether you should buy or sell so like correct

need to do a little of that like adult thing

have yeah but at

beer and agency

that's the feed separately in the search page has been completely revamped recently that we've talked about to focus on kind of trading and this you know so then there's kind of like a great idea

for for that if you want or you can turn it off as adrienne has just decided to do i saw a few other folks do that as well so why

and this oh wait was it this one yes this is similar this this came from part of the that discussion about trade ideas

so farcaster token and then people started talking about a farcaster token and chase added a note here what would the token do and so we know you're

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what would the token do what would the token do

this is what you should hear every time somebody types that out there you go so we're seeing a lot of leaning into trying to surface more crypto centric news if you will in different ways that relate to tokens so if that is not your vibe you can turn this off no notification whatsoever

no i i have a problem with dots and notifications hijacking my attention

i get it i well this i think comes down to you're a completionist red dots sitting there bother you

so you need to me i need

to go do something and i don't yeah i protect i am going to protect my sanity at all costs and my

so i can just ignore dots clearly clearly like you you it doesn't even come close to like my email notifications from my yahoo account which are in the hundreds of thousands that i don't even see doesn't even register anymore so you know do with that what you will but for those who are completionists this is gonna bug them and i get it turn it

control your control your attention it's fine there's lots of different you know actually the notification settings you can really dig deep there you could turn them all off or you can really like you know set just the things you wanna see so use that use that wisely protect your sanity

but this is the first time i've ever changed the default

because i think farcaster like product philosophy is like have as minimal settings as possible yeah like make smart defaults and yeah

so this one this one pushed you over the edge

i'm no longer the default user

she is not alright moving on dwr reminder that the overwhelming top request from developers for the last three years user growth that's why we've been focused on trying to figure out user growth more users more people available to use apps anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you okay

there was this related i saw a couple things about this but one of the things i saw were people commenting on linda had posted that her focus is gonna be more to onboarding rather than she was kind of the go between developers and merkel and and helping with mini apps and that kind of thing and is still doing some of that as well but the focus now is user growth and she's in that focus including really posting about onboarding and doing some live onboarding sessions so that in the i'm guessing in the hopes that that will bring more people to try farcaster which you know good move i think also they lost ted so ted went to privy ted was doing some of that work it there's nobody really focusing on that right now so that's my understanding as to why but there was some pushback on that a little bit thinking that it was taking away from the devs which i don't know what were your thoughts on that i didn't feel that way at all but as a dev

how did you feel about that at the same time

this is not a new topic for years it's been this whole cycle right of like what comes first devs or users

i think for early early on i mean listen we the promise of farcaster and and it's interesting and i don't know by the way i finally finished the whole network state conference

like nine hours of of video impressive on as background noise for the past week

and dan's talk on farcaster i like kind of heard the farcaster pitch fresh and he was really focusing on programmability composability like just that permissionless lego blocks that people can build on top of social network protocol biology separately has brought brought up farcaster a few times in talking to other people so not even like about the farcaster but talking about what he likes about farcaster and it kept coming up about kind of it's good for developers right

loves the mini apps loves that anyone can build whether you know full client or mini app

so i think early on farcaster was always an invitation for developers but then i think i i think there's just always been that tension because there's not enough users here

so is it are you gonna get users by attracting developers first like developers gonna build all the cool things and i think that was like the initial hypothesis and then you realize well no developers aren't always funded they really need users we're not gonna get as many developers because if you're building somewhere else where there are a lot of users like wouldn't i build a mini app on telegram that has you know much more users so then the focus then became okay we're gonna build the biggest client and then compete so it's just always there's always that tension and then over time if you're a developer you just based on your personal experience i think you can lose kind of like you feel unseen or you lose trust in the team but

that makes sense i mean i think that's what we're we're and i feel like you're right though this is not a new discussion at all like we've heard this many times in many different ways of who you know who are you building this for it we saw that even you know funny enough i remember that was the reason remember nook won a bounty and then like a couple weeks later like turned into just a mini app and turned off the

what do you call it the client and that was the reason it was like we can't see the scaling we don't know what to do you know we can't it's a it was a great client it's still a mini app but they but they knew there was no path forward and a lot of that had to do with the number of users and does it make sense to be competing with

merkel as a client etcetera etcetera and then slope went to work for farcaster so there you go so that that that new

client probably would have been a good competitor

probably would have had a wallet master

well let me ask you this so you're building a business on farcaster right

is tied to farcaster growth

right like this so you're not farcaster the only difference is you're not competing with farcaster actually right doing live streaming every week i guess

i mean we kinda are yeah yeah i mean

i think competing to our attention but how do you feel about

i mean i like i i knew this was gonna be a slow growth and it was also we you know from day one we're like this is an experiment and we don't know where this is gonna go so do i want user growth yes do i want quality user growth also yes like i don't we're seeing we see user growth from time to time that may not be useful so there's that too so and and i don't know what that looks like my i've had moments of different pockets of hope of greater expansion that haven't haven't pettered out like they've just kinda they you have this pop and then it people disappear again and i think that just speaks to it's very hard to get people to do something consistently they need to see that it's in their interest that time is worth it to them and i think that is difficult to express so yeah i want all the efforts towards user growth whatever that looks like because that's gonna help us if we're building you know a media company that focuses you know mostly on farcaster or farcaster protocol i should say then yeah we need growth

helps to have more than 37 people

yeah exactly yeah more than maybe more than 37 is jason four twenty jay chan i'm not sure

oh it's ice toad never mind okay i was gonna i was gonna yell at him if it was jay chan but anyway he knocked me out

of my window jay chan

i i used to

he used to hang out in our chat not even where where has he been is he working

in a while he's got he's got young kids he might be working too

but yeah yeah i think all the feelings come down it ends up being i think people building on farcaster it just it it becomes a feeling thing yeah of they're not getting enough hugs from from people like they're not feeling enough of like the emotional support which i get because it's like you're spending time here

wanna know you're kind of you feel like you're building towards the shared future but at at the same time too it's like you gotta you also know what you're getting into yeah or you or you have to know like you know what what promises are yeah

which there are no promises

thank you no but there are well it's kinda like what you have to know what the promises are and their expectations for the brand

yeah set your expectations properly so in other words like we've had we've actually had people i've had people reach out when linda started doing more livestreaming and we're like i can't believe they're doing this to and like i was like what like i know we don't own livestreaming about farcaster like we can't

we oh my god have a exclusive monopoly and and we can't like stop the company itself from streaming like that was

it was just silly but like i get what they were they were being protective of us but like it never even crossed my mind it was like you know what took them so long they didn't have the right person to do that who was interested in you know what i mean mostly was devs who were heads down coding and they didn't have somebody who was gonna do was gonna be available to do more something like that so as soon as they did it made a lot of sense for them to start doing that also linda has an insane amount of followers on twitter so it's dumb to not use that and tap into that like i really wish like we could stream to the farcaster account would make me ecstatic but that's just not you know available to us at this time but yeah we need both you're right we need yeah

so it doesn't need work

and and the reality is like it's like anytime like dan only has one mouth so or right like you can only cast one thing at a time yeah and he's transparent so it's like priorities are constantly shifting

so it's like okay this is and and i he's just like this is where our thinking is right now and this is where the emphasis is it doesn't mean we don't care about users if we're focusing on devs or if you're focusing on users it doesn't mean whatever or vice versa so it's just funny i mean like again and i said this last week after dan was here i will i my my personal thoughts and having been in this space where i keep listening to him is he's extremely logical like and organized and if you're just looking like just logic by logic i very rarely disagree with anything he says or the direction so then it's like okay try things like yeah sure he doesn't yeah you don't know how things are gonna work and so any of the growth any of the complaints and coming from feelings yeah

yeah it all comes down to dream you know distribution rules everything around me period full stop like for everything everything and we're gonna talk about a couple other things that i'm like dream

yeah yes and can you disrupt that we'll see yeah also yeah every time you say marco i hear marco we i'm sorry

we call you netnose we don't call you marco

i don't know who marco is i only know netnose

if you're listening for your name netnose we're gonna call you netnose

not marco so don't worry that's funny though

yeah alright let's i wanna add a little bit to that related a little bit related but onto a different topic so steven sill more spice on the timeline today i like it i don't like spice i don't like conflict but this was from vrypan this chart shows the number of casts i've posted each month since i first joined in july 2022 so a little bit before i joined in october you did as well i think mhmm what happened in august 2023 i started running my own hub and in october farcaster opened sign ups to everyone until then it was invite only that p two p version of the protocol with all its flaws is what really got me passionate about farcaster i ran my own hub it had the same privileges like any other hub but if i discovered farcaster today would it feel as exciting as the twenty twenty three point o nine version i'm not so sure i was thinking about this while watching this presentation about a t proto ethos which i'm not sure what that one is i haven't watched that we used to have these kinds of discussions here too not so much anymore the farcaster ethos become daw growth there is no passion about extensibility data ownership censorship resistance i don't feel there is any vision about the protocol how they want it to look in one two five years just a list of feature requests prioritized according to some daw metric yes i know none of these matter if we don't have millions of daw again it's daily active users just to not d a o d a u like i said daw growth i also know i'm a niche audience you can't grow to millions with users like me oh well

so that was one one thought and then we also had bazzil fc coins are getting

by the way good hold on before we go to basil i mean vrypan is like we've talked a lot early on even remember like the missionary versus mercenary topics yeah like early users came because we were idealists and yep we are missionaries like it we we were here because we really believed in a lot of the fundamentals of decentralized social so can we just chat vrypan i feel you

like we should pour some out for that time

yeah i and also you have you have some other things happening in social in general right you have and i was talking with chris corallo about this completely in a different space not publicly but just chatting about twitter and he was and she was like well my twitter is so much better now than it was so you've got improvements happening there where people feel like okay it's safe to go back in the water kinda thing you've got multiple experimentation with decentralized social or different types of decentralized social like maybe not necessarily like the way farcaster's doing it but you have different approaches with like you know you have like blue sky and things like that but you also have different like tiktok type style like openai and things like that and you have zora doing its own thing and you have base's new client which is on farcaster protocol but still has a different approach so you've got a lot of different more things trying to get your attention like more things trying to get you to try them and it just starts to split your time so i think there's a little bit of that too that is completely unrelated to farcaster itself but just like

the tie everything world right the space is changing around you it's not like when you start to build you're gonna come up with your plan and be like this is the plan for farcaster and this is what the protocol will look like in two to five to ten years because you have no idea what the world looks like in two to five to ten months much less years we and dan talked about this on the show he was talking about like oh when we started this was before elon bought twitter it was a very different space yeah and the fracturing of social by the way have you been on the zora app

that's my new social media app

this is what i'm saying like there's a lot of things competing for attention too yeah like a lot and when you think about like the decentralized i think the you know the existing problems that decentralized social was fixing are still there they're just not they you know they ebb and flow they ebb and flow in terms of you don't have this as much of a cancel culture but we still see people getting deplatformed from twitter all the time and it's been still a lot of crypto people so that's still happening you still have those moments like you know i'm excited to have shaw makes magic come on and talk about being deplatformed from twitter and all of that and how he thinks about that but i think it's not important to you until it is it just like you're not thinking about it until it happens to you so it's just not that big of a or as strong of a pull or as strong of a reason for people to try farcaster because yeah and you also things like oh i know what i was thinking like pump fun now is a streaming now is like that's another place that your attention's being wrapped

zora getting into streaming like

oh pine tree

pine tree we're gonna talk about that

okay yeah like everything is everything everything needs to be in everything app like every everything needs to anyway by the way farcaster on kind of the quality versus quantity i will say like the i i think the foundation of our product really was slow growth and like dan being so intentional about you know onboarding users through invites and but at some point i think they gotta it's like if you don't grow you'll die

yeah it just and you're at and you're at that point where you've got the fundamentals baked in especially now with wallet and all that you you have to just start really pushing

and better spam protection and

bams yep and they've done a lot of work on that like definitely my spam feed was so was my feed was very good in terms of spam until base started expanding and then you have a whole different pressure that comes in and i get it like you're it's just we just kinda took a couple steps back because they're not they haven't done that same work yet that farcaster done and it just takes a little time to catch up exploring a network token yes exactly that happened and then this craziness happened okay i wanna talk just really quickly to basil's because this is related fc coins getting wrecked as daos d a u s dwindle and c t crypto twitter dances around a tba the base app tombstone i just feel like i have to read all these little abbreviations in case people don't know what this means base push zora z o r a way too aggressively integrating this is all basil's points here just to be clear integrating a mid seventh pivot platform into an 80,000,000,000 pobco app release at the most fundamental level of usage with zero validation and against a wall of external and thoughtful criticism it's unheard of as a result the two have become inseparable and base app has now lost its brand name barely a year in i disagree with that but users this and that see world see world okay world app is what he's talking about there this is a little hard to parse if you don't know what all these abbreviations mean so that's why i'm pausing here and there fc chose to build against its core tam total available market for over two years and destroyed its public perception in the process i disagree with that now a token is the only way out i disagree with that base learned nothing from farcaster's shortcomings and chose to push creator coins from the very top now a token is the only way out no one asked farcaster nor base to create net new creators this is crypto the long term sustainability of tba and certainly now fc given the wallet upgrades does not depend on net new creators this is crypto we're building crypto apps it doesn't have to be like this you know all both of y'all had to do was build for the devs they will literally do your job for you all you need to do is listen and support them okay if that was true if they will literally do your job for you we would have millions of users by now like we don't daily active users so that is inherently untrue because that's all they've done is build for the devs for years is create a platform for and it's and it's been i think very successful we see a lot i i've always thought of like carcaster is an incredible incubator in itself and that it creates an environment that's very builder centric as is base and between those two things you've seen a ton of different projects that really have taken off and have been incredibly successful on both farcaster and base so there's that are there a lot that haven't yeah welcome to the world okay before i go on thoughts

yeah i'm just not overly sympathetic to the it didn't have to be that way argument i hear it way too often not just about this cast but about things in general completely as a side i just read the book careless people and i casted about it i don't know if you know it it's like a little memoirier style about this woman who worked at facebook in the global policy department like and she was super idealistic and then over the years about how facebook kind of handled various governments and and kind of global policy and censorship got really disillusioned excellent book not as like a you know it's it's billed as this like cautionary tale against you know but it's just it's just interesting because it's just if you read it as one person's account so i found that really interesting but the end of the book she sums it all up with like it didn't have to be this way it's like but you're not presenting like it's like oh if only everybody just listened to me it didn't have to be this way so i'm a little sensitive to the these days to it didn't have to be this way when you complain about something because like none of this is easy if it was easy yeah it would be done

and that yeah and basil's cast was just a little clickbaity and a little bearish like just like and dramatic and i and i didn't even understand everything in the acronyms like thank you for explaining what it all meant

and and and basil i love you as a person so it's not that i love as person no but it was like i just

i think he had a little bit of a crash out moment is the way i read that as i was reading i'm like this is weird it really because it felt like he was having a crash out that almost felt like was informed by things we weren't even seeing

exactly and i guess when i started reading it like it didn't reflect my my experience when it's like everything is horrible like everyone's dancing around the tombstone of the base app the base app is in in beta like you can't even use it it hasn't launched yet it has not launched yet so how can you

and it adds like i don't have a million there's like a million people on a

someone just said 30,000,000 or something in the in our chat yeah but it's like how can you dance on a grave of something that hasn't been born yet yeah and and in terms of like oh i you know and again if you're focused on a number to whatever it just it didn't reflect my personal experience so like i actually just kind of didn't spend much time on it

yeah i just i almost didn't share this today honestly like i i went back and forth in these last two casts i wasn't gonna share and then i went okay i feel like we probably should because it's been part of the conversation and it might be important but also like he did have a follow-up so let me just read that so that you know we get the full picture here for the record my frustrations do not equate to hostility it came off a little hostile and i think that was what people were pushing back on but he wanted to be clear he was not hostile i want nothing more than for zora tba and fc to be astounding successes and my dms are always open of course i want that i want to work with builders here each and every day in fact i'm building an incubator that fundamentally must compound asset value across base in fc or i lose everything there are no two ways about it it's do or die i'm all in and i feel like that's what was behind the first frustration post was like this feeling like okay things are whatever something set him off and and my guess is maybe seeing something on crypto twitter yeah i don't know

but i think it was a little bit a little bit more harsh than it needed to be i mean we have our moments though we gotta

do it but that is i mean it's just such a great like you never know what's in someone's mind when like casting i think about this all the time like i'm casting all this stuff on my mind some of it is informed by things you're seeing but everyone has a different feed everyone's following different people everyone yeah has different inputs everyone's building different things

so do you realize that i don't even see i have you on and i don't see all your stuff

i have you on notifications i think they stopped i think the notification alert stopped working because i realized

works i mean it's in your notification

to go in and click and see it it doesn't mean you're gonna naturally see it on your feed though

you've right

like sometimes you have to seek it out so that's what i mean like all of our feed we're not gonna see everything that you know everyone's everyone's individual experience is gonna be different

totally and especially on crash out days everyone starts looking for hidden meaning in everyone's casts

you know crash out days

i was actually just thinking i just casted this morning i'm gonna use the base app for the next week i've been wanting to do this for a long time because i've been going back and forth i was going back and forth between the two apps like just wanting to kind of good faith effort use all the different clients

and then over time i realized unless i'm intentionally using base like habits kick in and especially when i was in mongolia and i had was had very limited wi fi we had like starlink for an hour a day i found myself like there was no way i was opening up the base app i was just the habits kicked in and then your little neural pathways like really set it like they don't want you to change they only want you to use one app

i know well the other thing is and i'm and i said this to dan like you may not think you're doing it for rewards but yet when you start to think about it it does create a habit and it's hard to justify casting from somewhere else sometimes when you're seeing that so yeah

but it's not the reward it's like anyway so yeah and our friend texted me and she's like can i just like i just wanna ask for feedback like why don't you use the base app and can you send us feedback yeah like what you know like so kudos always to base team seeking feedback and i was like there's no re like no reason

i have reasons

it's just yeah oh but for me

have reasons

it just happens

channels that's a big one because if i'm posting about gm farcaster or i'm posting our cast out i want them in the channels so that they're easy to reference later on so those are my two big ones the other issue that i keep having is when i add a video sometimes it won't upload mhmm and even if i turn off to you know the coining or whatever it still won't upload so i've had some like weird like those are just bugs and i know it's gonna get better over time but right it's just bugs right now

but i haven't even been

using it enough to know why i'm not it was just so so i've my mind while i was away i'm like alright i'm gonna i'm gonna heavily use i'm gonna use just switch the bass app for a little bit just so i can play around with it and i'm laughing that i'm like i'm finally settled back after my travels this week i'm gonna do it when it's like it can look like a protest vote of me of mine

like oh that's funny

oh you're giving trade ideas fine i'm gonna go oh farcaster is getting too degeni i'm gonna go to the base app where everything's a coin

because that's not that's not degeni at all it's it's like that's

oh right oh you can't do four images okay yeah and by way there's a few reasons

wait yeah immediately i noticed things that were missing like drafts you can't like there's no drafts after you i mean there's a there's a there's a ton of things but i anyway what are we even talking about yeah anyway point is let's let's go back to the news

anyway anyways what were we talking about

but anyway so yeah we had a little little bit of a crash out little bit of some some rumblings and this happens from time to time i always give the team a lot of grace oh one of basil's other things was really about zora and that you know heavy connection

i get what what jesse's trying to do i think he really believes in this theory but i don't think it i don't think they're being completely exclusive to that and also like i don't think that's necessarily the reason that there's some challenges there so but i get i think the i think there's there's some good points that he made just you know mixed in with a crash out it's okay it's okay vas

alright moving on there's always good points

there's always good points

i think about all the people who crash out right and like and you always think about like substance versus style and it like i think most people don't separate the two yeah or let but it's like if you're able to kind of like separate and take people's emotions out like there's always good points people make if you can

absolutely and there were definitely some good points in there for sure alright let's move on we've got a few more things to tackle this from bondes and i have not tried this before it says starting today all farcaster pro subscribers have access to the beta version of i'm i hope i'm saying this right bondies or bonds maybe it's bonds

i think it's bonds

bondes bondes

bondes bondes someone help us join now as beta dot

i wonder if

it could say x y z or maybe maybe bondes.xyz this is not a typical farcaster client there is no feed channels or mini apps this is tailored to help you manage your connections notifications and build personal relationships with the people of farcaster whether you're a pro user or a brand you can manage and grant access to multiple accounts schedule casts work together on drafts search social signals and much more for each person you can see past interactions add notes and organize in groups join us now so that's interesting have not had a chance to try this out

it's getting some really good feedback in terms of people who have used it so i'm looking forward to trying it out so that is good to see have you haven't tried it yet have you

i haven't tried it yet you know who built this right

is it t is it thiago thiago that's who you worked with on with

for coineroid

yeah coineroid

very talented developer so yeah

i didn't know until i started reading through the comments and i wish that they would you know when you're doing an announcement like this that you note that because it changes whether or not i feel comfortable trying something

oh totally i recasted it to put that right it's like the credibility of like well who's who's behind it yeah and he also did wyatt where you at

oh right yep yeah very talented guy

very talented guy so looking forward to trying that and this was interesting so v commented to a comment from entropy bender american trenchers bridging to binance smart chain with one bnb and google translate bnb which is binance's chain had a little pop off recently and a lot of people started to try that who normally were not touching that with a 10 foot pole previously and you could see these wheels were turning here so i'm assuming and i think i did see something another note about this that bnb is coming to the wallet soon is my guess probably sooner rather than later and so look for that who knows maybe by friday we'll have that information for you so we shall see let me open up some other wouldn't

you be able to it if your first idea when you hear about anything crypto of like where can i get it because in the old days it was like having to onboard to every chain required like specialized wallets and and research and all that so and then the other the the easy way to do it was just with centralized exchanges like you can go to right.coinbase and buy anything great but to have a self custody wallet that works on kind of

any exactly

crypto is

is pretty cool that's what we and we need to see yeah we wanna see that and it's really like impressive how easy it is to swap i can't even tell you like having people be able to swap from base to solana easily without thinking about it and bridging and all this crap like it's pretty impressive if you've never gone done it the hard way not realize it's impressive but it is alright just bringing up the next group of links and they're taking forever to come up but i did have a few other things that we needed to chat about that are going very slowly and opening i'm like come on something open for me so i can talk about something we have a whole we still have a bunch of things to go through that i need to whip through yeah let's talk about our backgrounds this was from if you can't tell which i don't even have that up yet that's the problem oh here we go oh we already talked about that one okay here we go i'm gonna jump in we'll we'll get to the backgrounds in a second this from rish looking to speak with two to three folks who want to build a mini app but haven't yet because it's too hard too much work working on a few things to make it easier and would like to test a few things if this is you so if you've been wanting to work on a mini app or you've gotten like halfway through it and gave up like me reach out to rish because they have something new coming and i actually talked to grin about this at base camp and i think it's gonna be something very useful for a lot of folks so go check that out this from android 16 super excited to announce the launch of live streaming on pinetree we launched pinetree on may 1 at farcon nyc with the goal of being the best place for casters to create and share long form videos now we're excited to build upon that foundation and add support for live content i'm gonna read just a little bit more but he goes on for a bit why why live streaming i think said it best i have no idea in a recent empire podcast episode the end game of social led distribution of audio and video is two sides of the spectrum you have live streaming and you have short clips the key here is distribution so it goes on to talk about live streaming and distribution don't have to sell us on this and then today's launch today's launch is a soft launch we've allow listed a few casters who will be able to stream in order to iron out the last few kinks in production once we harden the product a bit we'll open up streaming to everyone shortly eta two to three weeks most likely haven't had a chance to really explore this yet and i missed the livestream that is it juey juey guey i don't know did yesterday have you had a chance to look at this at all adrienne not yet

not yet okay so it happened yesterday

no i know but

we haven't had to do i yeah i haven't had a chance to try the new launches the sort of bonds but going to

yeah excited about it so we now have pine tree and retake zora is coming that was already i already talked with jesse about that at base camp as well my comment to him about zora streaming was what i wanna see is actually native streaming in one of these apps like in base app in farcaster that would be more useful mini apps probably allow for more features so that's useful but what happens is what it comes down to is again dream so distribution are you gonna bring us net new audience or are we you know once again bifurcating our audience and you know putting them into another place so this is the prop this is why we haven't started streaming on retake yet the reason is we're not gonna be able to focus on that chat because it doesn't tie into our streaming platform so to all who might be listening who are building streaming apps this is the issue and i don't know how to solve it so there you go but it was it's the problem that we've had anytime we stream to something that is like even when we were streaming to unlonely we had to have a separate device open to be able to chat in unlonely because it doesn't build into our little streamyard

so right even we stream to our mini app yeah and even people are saying like i wish i could chat from the mini app which we can't because you know we don't wanna yeah

we don't want you to

it makes it harder on us

i would not be against using every streaming platform out there just for just go meet people whatever even if they're not chatting i mean there's people like our primary chat is on youtube but people can watch in other places the reason i like the idea of native streaming in farcaster is dream so just like in like when you had the spaces or twitter it's letting people know like it'd be really cool if when people open up farcaster they're like oh look i'm just gonna shout it you know we've got red wings the dude ice toad and pascaline and four of of my other friends watching on lonely on lonely feels like so long ago so long ago

so long ago

it's crazy it's crazy but we used to exclusively stream on unlonely for quite a while

only unlonely

only unlonely we only posted recordings on zora like those are the only places you could see it and we learned fairly quickly that like that wasn't enough in terms of distribution and i think we made a few choices along the way that probably pushed us held us back a little bit and had to readjust and so like i would prefer to be on platforms that were crypto native and had crypto integrations except that we know that's not where the distribution is unfortunately so we'll figure it out

yeah we'll figure it out know i mean when i've talked to people building any sort of like streaming type software or streaming or any kind of like recording media even if they're like oh it's super easy just upload your video here or this like the the additional overhead

of like we're moving forget forget about the streaming just like recordings

hour you take an hour long video right the the additional overhead of like how long it takes to upload and move files like it's kind of a like a bitch to work on like it's it's not easy so it's like oh sure five minutes here five minutes here and then your day is gone

like it takes me for the math work just for every episode it's taking at least two hours post post show to get everything out there like i don't

and we and we don't edit

and that's two hours with me and then she's and then adrienne's also doing stuff on her end with clips and everything so that's like another hour at least could be longer like so you know it's a lot anyway

yeah so we need the tools but we're but the

just know our presentation

but isn't that why rss isn't that why podcast rss is so great it's like you put it on click here's the episode go go you know if you've got a platform a podcast platform people can listen like people listen to the rss everywhere exactly

yeah we can't afford an intern this is the problem red wings

yeah i i think we can but

we've got there's a lot there's a lot we we know we know alright moving on we gotta move on and and bop through a few things really quick because i wanna give these shout outs aptos experience is next week october fifteenth to sixteenth adrienne and i will both be there very excited and excited to see there's gonna be a lot of people from farcaster there because jc and poidh poidh meets world are both on the aptos team and they've been doing a good job getting farcaster interested so we're excited to see everybody next week in new york this from phil if you are reading this and interested in ethereum you should come to our opening event node foundation in january and 10,000 refers to cryptopunks so for those who don't know node foundation bought the cryptopunks ip so this is gonna be the first time they're officially doing anything with that i am ridiculously tempted to go i i think i'm thinking about it seriously and i'm like but then i'm like and this is the funny part then i'm like but if i'm going to california i need to go to noun coffee

yeah but is this in palo alto

yeah they're nowhere near each

other not near noun coffee

you're like six hours away but i i might i might i'm thinking about it

anyway you don't even drink coffee

i know it's not the point

my name is under the countertop i just i have to go see it it's a whole thing anyway but i'm like how can i figure this out and have it make sense and i haven't figured out that part yet this from nick something historic happening at the nyse today this was yesterday a lot of people didn't quite pick up on what was going on but polymarket was got a 2,000,000,000 with a b dollar investment from the n y from the new york stock exchange their investment arm so that's pretty amazing polymarket also is now available in the us there's a new ios app that was just released yesterday also that you can get on the wait list for so a lot of things happening there and what was really interesting is i asked i talked about prediction markets in class the other night and none of my students knew what i was talking about none of them had heard of polymarket none of them had heard of calci they had no idea what i was talking about i talked about bracci and ponder and all these different things and i'm like i can't like i realized how early like this company just got a $2,000,000,000 investment and these kids who are the target market had never heard of it i'm like wow that's crazy so yeah so that's exciting and congrats to the polymarket team

this from toadyhawk clankers do it better is a one month celebration of clankerverse on betterment and it all starts tomorrow which is today each week we'll work with dish and the rest of the clanker team to choose one promising project so he's just copying us from the clankerverse and blow up their spot to kick it off we couldn't think of a better place to start than with the sultans of swag savage and cat cartel from minted merch using funds recently granted by clanker we purchased $1,500 worth of minted merch on the open market which will be used to host a special round of betterment featuring related content on friday in the meantime tomorrow we will host the team on a special retake stream with moon poppy to hear their story so that is exciting this is today i was waiting for the second one this is today at 2pm eastern there it is the link below so this will be on retake on moon poppy's channel so very exciting toady just copying us it's fine if you don't know my relationship with toady it's very much sibling rivalry so there you go this from shira i love this question because i get to respond yes a gifter sends real gifts via ups or usps currently only ship to the us but international shipping coming soon gifts can be sent to a specific address your home to ups access points for privacy conscious friends or pass to another friend's red to love so this is a new way to send a gift and you can do it through this mini app gifter great for the holiday season so there you go very exciting this from spikeballchris which i just like that spikeballchris is on farcaster and like we're talking with them i just find that very cool so this was farcaster fam gm i could use some help hattie my 14 year old daughter and i created a new game called spike pong which why didn't like of course like this makes perfect sense why didn't they do it sooner we just launched a kickstarter an hour ago and need help spreading the word by the way i think it's now at 100% funded it was at 98 last night yeah it was at like 75 yesterday afternoon then last night we're at 98 need help spreading the word hattie i might get to go to college if this is successful can you repost this and pass this link along to your network near and far thanks in advance so if you're not familiar with spikeball it's essentially like a volleyball game that you can play on a net a small net and you can play with multiple people it's really fun lot of you see it on a lot of beaches here in florida and they are launching one that's like a mini one that's like beer pong but with this little mini spikeball net and i'm like oh this makes perfect sense like as soon as i saw it i'm like yeah duh like this is great and i could totally see us using it for you know farcon beer pong so i

got into a conversation with with t l

d r about this and then it turned into let's do spikeball at the coliseum

so we'll see next farcon there might be a spikeball tournament at the coliseum

yeah with with spikeballchris

it'd be amazing

that would be incredible

this is our friend supertightwoody new video tomorrow that's today i'm starting a new series where i talk and make music with people supertight sessions on my first episode my friend old man saxon known from netflix rhythm and flow stops by and we find out meonana so that's fun for those who don't know our theme song is by supertightwoody so there you go this from lior from product link this is a big milestone we're partnering with super fluid to distribute greater than 100 k in sup rewards to forecaster and base builders over the next twelve weeks but honestly this validates something i believed in from day one community first growth isn't just a philosophy it's a model that ecosystems want to participate in we're already talking to several other protocols about using product line as their gateway to reward builders and communities superfluid is first and they won't be the last you're building on farcaster this is your moment exciting times so that's really exciting so a 100 in rewards going out very exciting this from toadyhawk well my day just went from good to better feeling speechless grateful seen huge thank you to base dot e team for recognizing our work on betterment with the $25,000 top prize in the live mini app category of on chain summer hackathon over the past six months we've been shipping nonstop building one of the strongest token communities on base a 100 and k 180 k in transaction volume across farcaster and base app and paying 60 k to featured creators along the way but it's still day one this win has given netnose i told you we'd say your name netnose burr and me the motivation we needed to double down and take betterment to the next level build on base and you'll be awarded it's not just a thing jesse likes to say so this was in response to the announcement on twitter

oh we get to talk about your crash out

yeah i'm gonna have my crash

out now here we go

oh you think were spicy yesterday

yeah where they posted the winners from the on chain summer hackathon winners and they've only posted it on twitter like okay okay base team coming close why aren't you posting this first on your own app like what is going on we gotta fix this because this is crazy this has happened multiple times the only place i could find the schedule for base camp was on twitter like the like stop we gotta we gotta figure this out like if there is an issue like figure it out the easiest thing also like if you can't do that at least recast and repost the twitter thing that you posted because you still haven't done that so what is going on anyway okay i'll stop now but that really bothers me so make sure please that you're posting it first on your own app before it goes to twitter okay back to the real thing jeez i mean it really bugs me it really really freaking bugs me

so congrats i'm gonna

oh go ahead yeah so honestly right this is about dog fooding right it's like yes you're you're building the app you gotta use that app i will say i by the way you so rarely like get emotional about anything yeah crash out so i just love it

i love to just sit back and just let you

when i saw it yesterday i was like what what's it again

i checked everywhere too before i said anything like i checked to see if maybe jesse reposted it what you know checked all the people yeah

as well but i will say i will well sometimes as your as your partner and i will say you do an excellent job like when we started gm farcaster and you're like we wanna be on chain first so it was like how do i use yeah all the on chain tools first and then kind of do every everything else second you're just exceptional at it because you're willing to do the hard things like it's like it's not easier it's not that they're not easier yet so i think you're like you're pretty good at it and you're just one person like listen the base team like there's a it's a large team they're not all necessarily crypto native like they're hiring marketers and comes people who don't come from a crypto background who might you know so yeah you know go easy on them prof go easy they're doing their best

no i will not

i know i talked to the person like i i know who has the keys and if that person isn't available to do this again there are multiple ways to do this but also but also the base account did post something yesterday after this announcement went out

but not still

hasn't posted this

so what's funny and i think i said this i was i i put our i obviously submitted our mini app for the hackathon awards yeah so i was wondering because i thought i was gonna announce while i was traveling and i was like oh whatever happened to that whatever went happened to to devfolio to find the projects and i was like oh i didn't see any updates and i was like oh i kinda had just forgotten i was wondering anyway

i guess i'm not on twitter so i i

i guess yeah you're not if you're not i mean would they even know who to tag i mean insane so congratulations betterment we also had a annie chess game i don't even know that one scratch which we love we love scratch stream fun which is retake influence which i have mixed feelings about and there's a few others that are in the replies which i'm not logged in so it's not gonna let me see but congratulations to all the winners you know because if this was posted over on farcaster i would have no problem bringing that up there's my crash out and this is a general pet peeve for like anything base or farcaster related post it there first if you want other people to come to your app also one other base note benji is joining base as head of design it's the most bullish thing i've seen in a while this is from derek great talent addition to the team now if we can just get him casting and there he is casting setting up my base but also i don't like i saw a lot of people shouting this out and excited about this i don't know who benji is but a lot of people were very excited about this happening so there you go

yeah so let's take their word for it

we're gonna take their word for it i don't know who you are but

this is a good thing

congratulations and let's see this is our backgrounds today this is from linda attending a live crypto perps trading competition in new york it's being streamed like esports it was funny the announcer yelled everyone make sure you're on east mainnet i'm assuming they did an announcer voice favorite team i'm rooting for is garrett and zach b so our friend garrett was there and he said this this was a lot of fun for the inaugural battle battles codes event which consists of teams trading perps in an esports style competition definitely a lot to improve but it's a cool idea as perps continue to get more popular perps platform and live streaming feed had issues and delays but i think it's a cool idea i'd specify a minimum leverage amount and specific token pairs to make it more entertaining to follow along and watch they're hoping to do more of these events at devconnect art basel and consensus h k hong kong so that's interesting but and i loved this this photo was fantastic linda just really really well done

kinda loved it so this is really yeah this is interesting and for those like i haven't done anything with perps i i haven't not dove into this part of defi but right now this is like what everybody's talking about and different new platforms that are out so very interesting

and it's all on hyperliquid

all on hyper powering on hype hyperliquid

so and i would i oh that was the background i wanted the moose i knew i had another background idea forgot it

anyway i jumped ahead

so i jumped back

but but this like linda's cast and i think dan retweeted it or recast it it was like oh what but it's like well what the theme right this convergence of

of like betting like gaming gaming betting finance

like finance

prediction prediction markets like it's just all everything come it's it's

it's a lot it's a lot it's definitely a lot finance

finance gonna put financing quotes

but yeah the betting and the gaming

and the moose

happy spooky season i tap of this moose eating my kids' pumpkins and then we got tagged in it this moose belongs on gm farcaster and yeah it does it would this was the other one i was thinking for a background as well and if i had known that you were doing that one i would have switched to this because this was just funny

i meant to i mean can you imagine like i'm

hi it's a moose at your back door i yeah

i love it

so funny and one last thing this was hilarious

76:20played clip

a video that goes through all those pieces so basically these are a compilation of his daily art pieces animated into a video that goes through all those pieces

oh that's cool

76:29played clip

this is like a limited edition thing you can buy to support him and you're holding the art and you're getting the booster

this is making our our weekly recaps look very boring

76:39played clip

this is

making our our weekly recaps look very boring look very boring look very boring

76:46played clip

get off the line nice

that was hilarious and then adrienne and i both

had the same thought of we should maybe hire that guy it's our recaps are very

and yeah and spoiler alert we have a call with that guy tomorrow to explore

because they're like wow that was really good and it was it was just very well done and and entertaining so thanks curious

i wanna know from push is like

push underscore yeah just so no hyphen

yeah push hyphen

hyphen hyphen hyphen yeah

i'm dying to ask him like how like what i wanna know his process and how long it takes for him to make that clip because i've done clips before that are like a tenth as good and probably took 10 times as long so so interesting

i know i'm very curious about that as well yeah so that was fantastic so thank you push we do have sense of humor so yeah we're i was fine with that it it was fantastic and that is it adrienne anything else that i may have missed because that was a lot and we've gone very long for a for a light day

for a light

yeah i got a call in ten minutes so we're gonna we gotta go let's wrap it

we gotta wrap it up thanks everybody yeah like what sigrid said here remember to smash light but

i do have one more thing to say

yeah go ahead

have has anyone checked out the trending mini apps on farcaster this week

why yes i have

and what do you and what do

you think of the list

i think it's fantastic if you haven't noticed gm farcaster is featured in the featured mini apps right next to cody and zounclub and then you have gm farcaster letterloops and slater urn so right in the middle there is gm farcaster so if you haven't checked out our mini app yet you should do that both on farcaster and on the base app you can find it both

there and i just checked and i think we're getting more peep i like the discovery is working i think because i think there's new people who added our mini app and when you add our mini app can notify you when you go live because we just crossed over the thousand people getting our notification fantastic hovering in the nine hundreds like kind of slowly inching up and we just crossed over so i'm about to cast to give a thanks to linda for promoting us thank

that's they talk about getting your first thousand users as if it's that easy it's not that easy if you don't give away free money in your mini app

true story yeah if you give away free money very easy

very easy to get those first thousand

we unfortunately don't do that but we give away free alpha and free content and lots of free things

and friends definitely

and friends and fun

and friends

wait is this true you didn't even know we had a mini app where have you been

what i only talk about it all the time we do give giggles

we do give giggles it's true

red wings tell i'm gonna cast about the featured app you

can yeah you can add it desktop that's a good request

and that's my number one actually complaint against the base app right now too is no it's mobile only

yeah yeah that's why we don't that's that's the other reason i probably spend more time on fcs because i'm also curating from there because i can't pull up anything from base app directly i have to like have yeah screenshots or whatever in order to show it so that's a that's a challenge but anyway thanks everybody for hanging with us you guys are awesome we will be back friday 08:30am i believe i don't think we have a guest next week we are head gonna have a little bit of a different schedule i think we're doing monday tuesday and are we doing friday we'll talk about that

we took offline

we'll talk about that

but we'll be in person

we'll be in person together and we're also you know what if we do something in person on friday that will be episode 300 so just saying anyway with that everybody we will see you on friday and until then oops nope bye bye

thanks for joining us for this episode of gm farcaster and thank you to all our partners and hyper sub supporters bringing this episode to you follow the gm farcaster channel for all the latest updates and add our mini app on farcaster and the base app until next time bye bye