Transcript: Sonic Clanker Logos & Market Meltdowns: GM Farcaster ep298

NounishProf, adrienne, degencummunist.eth ยท GM Farcaster

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she i'm adrienne by the way our backgrounds are really freaking crazy today let me zoom out a little bit so you can get a little like spectrum oh happening yeah you went mcdonald's i went mcdonald's i went rackedober in mcdonald's which we'll be talking about obviously at the top here in just a bit and you went with a little bit of lore which was i didn't know that was fascinating we'll get into that in a little bit so we're getting ready for the show we're gonna have twenty nine minutes of forecaster news followed by at noon like in about thirty minutes or so we're gonna have d jen communist joining us yes you did hear that correctly and i'm excited to chat with them because they've used a lot of the tools that integrate with clanker and i think that's gonna be an interesting way to kind of dive into some of those so wherever you are give a retweet give a recast let people know you're watching

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did you say clanker

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i said clanker you know clanker

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you know clanker you know how it is we love clanker alright and speaking of we are gonna get rolling with our new little intro that we did for klinker and we will be back in just sixty six seconds see you on the other side

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welcome to gm farcaster bringing you everything from breaking news to spicy memes to the deep lore shaping this vibrant digital community more than just a show gm farcaster is your digital third space where the community connects the stories unfold and the culture thrives whether you're a daily caster or just dropping by we've got the latest buzz to keep you plugged in so grab your coffee and let's dive in with your hosts nanesh prop and adrianne for another episode of gm farcaster

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this episode of gm farcaster is powered by clanker each monday we'll bring you the latest news from the clanker team and highlight the builders innovating with clanker and farcaster visit clinker.world to launch your token and check out all the new features that clanker v four has to offer thank you clanker for sponsoring gm farcaster

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gm farcaster i was busy tweeting

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welcome to happy monday it is monday october 13 and you are here with now to shrav and adrienne for twenty nine minutes of farcaster news to start your day plus we are gonna jump into a little chat with dgen communist and talk about dollar sign well i'll just call it scum and all the different tools like empire builder retake vibe market that they've been using within their community so very excited about that i have one more tweet to do mookie also is alerting everybody that we're live which is nice thanks mookie okay that's enough

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amazing i just sent the mini app notification we have so many more people who've added the mini app because i love that team was nice enough to feature us in their featured mini app so people were discovering us and what i can't figure out and maybe there's a developer in the audience net knows i know you're there please help me

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net knows are you high enough well i need your help

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so what's going on a cache so when i send the notification sometimes it doesn't pick up that we're live so like if you open the mini app right now it's it's not showing you the live our fridays

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app store showing the live i get it mhmm

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yes and if you i cache like i cache the latest episode and it's not coming up on live and i'm annoyed because when i do send the notification i refresh the cache so it should yeah that sounds great

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yeah it should do it okay

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it should it should catch it and and it does i'd say 80% of the time but sometimes it doesn't so now i feel bad for all the new people who have no idea what gm farcaster is only added the mini app because they saw it in the featured list and now they're watching old news so

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sorry guys i fail epic fail so please go directly to youtube to watch just click on that little youtube link thing and it'll bring you over to us that's that's just like waiting waiting for you in my dms

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waiting for you in my dms and i just realized something i did not put on any lipstick today and i find that unacceptable so one moment please while i just do this very quickly let's it's good because you're streaming i have an automatic mirror so there you go amazing

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but it's a little backwards

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it's not not your typical not your typical crypto podcast

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not your typical crypto podcast where you get where you get lipstick right in the stream sponsored by l'oreal don't we wish maybe it's maybelline you know maybe she's worth it maybe it's maybelline anyway moving on

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super tight woody i'm so sorry we're gonna get to news but i i'm so glad super tight woody is here and what i wanted to know is i love all he's been doing a ton of like videos so cool and sharing work so shout out our theme song was is was one of his and we love it it's a flamingo one not a surprise but our this this is our sponsor for this month for monday our spotlight sponsor is clanker and super tight woody we created a sonic logo

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a little sonic logo

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is that what it's called a sonic logo for clanker and we've been playing around with it and people are having fun and moon this is actually moonpappy banging pots and pans in his kitchen and he sent us the so i just i don't know if you've heard it before but i've been thinking of you every time i bang the bang the

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every time she bangs the mic every time she uses the soundboard which we now have the soundboard let me tell you when we used to do spaces back in the day when woody was doing spaces with me on noun square the soundboard was epic it was insane it was insane it was a lot of fun a little pause for a happy canadian thanksgiving by the way you have to say canadian thanksgiving because if you say thanksgiving i go no it's not thanksgiving yeah it's not it's october this happens every year but happy canadian thanksgiving

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happy canadian thanksgiving everyone

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to everybody alright let's dive in we got some things to chat about we're gonna start with our usual from brad q twenty nine seconds of podcast reviews oh one more thing before i forget because i wanna light this hold on i got my latest candle from humankind can you tell that the bottom part is green because it's like see through

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you can see through my background but it's beautiful and this is the tomato arugula one and i was like tomato arugula and then she's like as soon as it's on sale she was like do you want to try it now and i'm like i do and it is beautiful so pick yourself up hanging on a human kind of candle because they're pretty awesome alright now let's dive in as it was sitting there and i wanted to share that this from brad q twenty nine seconds of forecaster what did you miss this weekend base with a nice weekly recap that highlights lots of your favorite mini apps on chain summer winners and best new mini apps so check that out and we'll be talking more about that in a little bit dish is running a ponder poll this week for clankers do it better collab and you have until 11:30am eastern uh-oh you're done to vote so it's probably over now sorry but i do have that as well like linda shared a video with tony hawk about eight ways to make money on farcaster that originally aired on twitter two notable stories of fun farcaster use cases che young had no brackie and didn't know baseball but jumped into a livecaster event learned about baseball and followed a veteran's trade and walked away with 1,000,000 brackey that's pretty good shout out tldr and say angel and arab one thousand hosted a live caster event and jumped 350 spots on the leaderboard to top 50 so pretty cool also i updated the crash course on fc engagement in finding your way here for people who are new or struggling on farcaster so go check that out from brad q and thank you brad for always having these great summaries for us weekly as well as throughout the week all the cool things that you do this from farcaster admin aka borodutch so i'm aka warp cast admin aka the guy with the eggs so i'm building a db a database of all casts ever with embeddings holy crap you guys yap a lot and it shows at v gj on getting snapchain working have no idea how you guys pulled it off but the amount of data is ridiculous so that was kind of a nice little shout out to the merkle team not the merkle team the merkle team from borr dutch okay into the big news that is would explain my background

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crazy that today we had the biggest crash ever in crypto money dollar wise crazy that today's liquidations are bigger than luna bigger than covid bigger than ftx

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so yeah it it was it was a bad day friday like not long after we got off the stream everything went to hell lots of good takes on what happened which i'll talk about in just a second but this was interesting from unusual whales look at this a new crypto account was opened yesterday morning thirty minutes before trump's announcement of 100% tariffs on china it added a huge multi million dollar leverage bitcoin short position per y f that's i'm assuming yahoo finance the market dumped the trader made a profit of 192,000,000 in two yeah two hours unusual yes it was this from alex lutzky if you survived and per persevere preserved your money you're already doing great if you made money from this flash crash congratulations you're better than 90% of the market interestingly just a few hours before this drop the trump team's token world liberty fi was sold off by 30% to have funds to buy it back from panicking people interesting also if you were following the news you had time to accept the current losses and close all long positions before the global drop it didn't happen all at once watch the market for a few more days don't jump in do defomo and rush to trade it's better to miss out on some profits than to incur losses and then there were some interesting things about this chart what i found to be really helpful was these couple of write ups so this is from zeneca that really went into how exactly everything went down the and then also yes to crypto had posted this from ivan on tech i listened to this this morning super helpful it gets into sort of what was sort of brewing beforehand and there were a couple things brewing one was a lot of leverage that was happening in a lot of different places binance having some things set up in the way in which they were using their own oracle versus using the one that matched the rest of the world and they got depegged and that caused a whole cascade of liquidations and that part i believe that binance is now making people whole who got caught in that where they shouldn't have like for example it was like giving people like 60% versus 100% and weird things like that because it was like everything was depegging and just wrong and apparently they were getting ready to shift this to on the fourteenth to a whole different way it was going to work and it would have this wouldn't have happened so from what i've read and from what i understand the the reason like a lot of what was happening there was these other market things that were already set up to cause an issue in terms of like you know some things that were on finance a lot of people using leverage and then there was the information up from china was already coming out a little bit before the trump announcement so there were people making some moves already and then trump makes this announcement that there's gonna be a 100% tariffs on china and then the market goes crazy and this all happens of course after the stock market is closed so if the stock market is closed where you where you gonna go try and save yourself but you're gonna sell all your crypto and cause this cause this issue so if you weren't using leverage you were probably fine but if you were trying to sell at that time even if you weren't losing leverage but if you were trying to do anything on chain gas went insane you were getting incredible slippage so you really couldn't do anything until that all settled down it was just insanity so in terms of what we saw on i'm looking for the notes from v hold on we saw some things happening on farcaster which really didn't weren't you know wasn't directly impacted but it was because everything in the market went insane and this has happened like happened with luna happened with ftx same kind of things when you have a lot of people trying to sell at the same time you get these it's increased demand it's just basic supply and demand mechanics so this is from b there's a lot of market volatility right now and many wallets were failing to complete on chain swaps and sends due to fast moving gas prices and asset prices we're making some quick improvements to farcaster wallet to mitigate some of this but expect to see expensive swaps and a higher rate of errors while the volatility lasts and it's also because everything was happening very quickly as well and then another note they made a lot of improvements it should be fine now this was a couple hours later if you've been experiencing issues this is from gt during swaps please make sure to restart your app a couple of times to get the latest update and check the app store play store and make sure you have the latest one as well so that's what happened on farcaster also this from aviation doctor hopefully the past twenty four hours in crypto will motivate a flight to quality this industry doesn't need the long tail of grift coins just a handful of blue chips with utility it doesn't need shady c cxs and dexs that fold under stress only credible players that have shown lendiness that and it certainly doesn't need zero sum pvp games but instead positive sum attitudes toward building responsibility i see a silver lining to this flash crash in the form of garbage collection interesting low key wish the altcoin market doesn't recover and that we can move on without it i don't maybe come out of this with more computer and let's casino i do like that last part

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that's so sweet yeah we're gonna so naive and sweet

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you know i know it's so sweet

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we're gonna all move towards quality

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yeah we wish we could too but yeah anyway i think we gotta we gotta just find a way to survive with both so bottom line like hopefully everybody made it through it's been it was a rough rough day it was a rough day it felt not great honestly even if you were fine like you didn't lose anything specifically you still were watching the value of your stuff just disappear and it never feels good especially when it's happening that quickly and you're like is this ever gonna stop and it's like i had to remember okay we've been here before we've been here before it's fine it's gonna recover but it's just like it feels yucky and especially when you see some other shady shady stuff happening that it just is like come on so anyway

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there's always shady shit

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there's always shady shit

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maybe it's more in the open now

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maybe too bad interesting

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shady shit and from like a trump perspective like there's always i i feel like the market's just so dumb yeah because there's he's always gonna say something it'll always get walked back we're gonna forget after a few like so

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i know i know i know but we keep we keep falling into it and i get it because you panic and you think okay i don't want to lose everything but also if you're playing with leverage and stop losses and all that stuff you're setting things up anyway for that so you might lose in the process so it is what it is yes taco no it's it's nothing like that

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yeah actually it's not a mess with quality

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yeah yeah and then yes taco taco taco yeah always okay a few more fun fun the fun parts of this crash is always the memes the memeification and this time it came with emerge and this is the rectober up october you know the two wolves if you will which i loved and then we had this which oh i should have played this but okay but the falling candles and the yeah there you go poor lorenzo well it's tyler actually i don't see lorenzo in this one and then we had some other issues within mini apps so for example for tippin all tips are currently delayed due to network congestion but will be processed in time we'll report back and then matthew fox same thing with over with clankermon i'm in the highest room network fees are high fees are too high for us to sponsor this transaction right now you can wait a while or pay your own gas and everything went way up so if you if you don't play with clankermon very often usually this fee is like 0.01 like a penny or less it's like less than a penny usually so and oftentimes they just pay for it when it's really low anytime it gets to like a penny or higher then you can pay for it so this one was up to like 74ยข which is crazy to like train your baby mons i mean come on now rest in peace

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rest in peace baby mons

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i ain't been paying for that yeah right this is funny what oh this is really funny about this is totally not about this i forgot this this got snuck in here this is a reply to the notifications this is the top stories notifications i think is what this one was about and it's a what is farcaster notice buying about us here clues to solve a mystery and then non degens what does this mean degens you don't have

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to put the red light on you have to put on the red light

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i thought that was funny couple more things oh this was a good one steady lads deploying more capital this is my question for you do you understand that

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no i'm sure this has something this and and i might have even yeah i don't know i don't know what this is referring to

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okay so this is referring to the luna crash in may 2022 and duquan that who i think is in jail now i don't know if he's did they actually catch him i think they did he said that so duquan posted that steady lads deploying more capital trying to get people to stop selling and crashing everything so that was a reference to that we had this from supertai witty speaking of supertai witty a little red candle this is the are you winning sun meme and the answer is nope i have seen one with that looked a little different with barron trump in it are you winning son yep dad actually yeah thanks thanks dad

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love that

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little there's a little conspiracy there's a conspiracy out there you know that maybe baron baron coaching dad i i don't think so but kind of funny i don't think so i really don't

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this is why conspiracy spread because they're like people want them to and they're so easy too and they're funny so go ahead

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because they're funny okay moving on couple more things in the forecaster news bin before we jump into some clinker news the all fifty eight network state conference videos this is from tedx chris a tedx playlist this is from actually from balaji's network state conference the playlist is now there so you can watch it in pieces and have it be less overwhelming than one giant nine hour conference

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skill issue if you can't watch the full nine hour video like i did is all i'm saying

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just do it like she did this is my this is what i'm set for this is what i'm doing from the plane i think this is from our friend nikki sapp i've updated my farcaster bull case everyone seems to have their opinion about what fc is for or what it should be about it's for base maxis it's just for devs builders it's all crypto bros we get left out every time but time and again the casts that go viral and resonate with the most people are authentic human stories that bear truths about the writer the uniqueness of this phenomenon can't be understated especially as the internet continues to ossify over the generative corpse of its once lived existence the dead internet theory doesn't apply on farcaster in my opinion that's its greatest strength you can still find and connect with real people from a diverse spectrum of backgrounds what do you do with those connections can form life altering bonds that's not possible anywhere else online and i just really loved that very much and also

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the mini app is featured our our gm farcaster mini app has been featured and made it to 22 i don't know if it's where it is right now but yesterday it was at 22 and then clanker was right behind and then d jen and i just thought that looks so cute in purple it's so cute together i just kinda love that so wanted to

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share dish adrian dish and jacek i mean yeah

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it's so

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cute love to see it i mean

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you love to see it

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should i change the name for our mini app to be gm forecaster

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isn't it gm forecaster

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no i mean the developer

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oh no

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okay

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no you should get credit

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interestingly so you're that is the trending mini apps

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yes that is trending is different

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do you know that is different than the developer rewards leaderboard oh is it really i did not know

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that oh that's interesting so where are you on that where is that

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because a few months ago i left a

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can you see it or

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developers can you have to turn it on

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okay

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but the a few months ago weeks ago i saw us for the first time on the trending we got we made it to the trending list and we were like in the nineties and i was so proud and so happy so i was expecting to get a developer award and i did not and that's because it's a separate leaderboard and we were not in the top 100 however kinda sad we are we are this week i think this will be the first week we get a alright developer rewards

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it's very exciting

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super exciting

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that is very exciting okay moving on a little bit of base base news so jesse was putting the fries in the bag you know going with our mcdonald's everybody's back at mcdonald's theme but he was working at day trip counter so context i have a new role as cashier at day trip counter this is for those who don't know he actually owns a restaurant with some couple other friends in oakland and apparently somebody didn't show up for work or was sick and he had to go fill in which i just think that's hilarious so you could have gone and had jesse giving you fries you know just like the people who showed up that day and trump was at the drive thru

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i don't even know what putting the fries in the bag figuratively means put

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the fries in the bag oh it means that you have this is where you work now oh fries in the bag that's the mcdonald's theme it's the whole this is the only job you're gonna be able to get

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it's shade

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as you're a little bit yeah a little bit of like you've lost all your money you now work at mcdonald's i don't like that

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did yeah did jesse fries see this did our

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i you know that was an excellent question i assume i'm looking i'm looking we may have to tag her if she didn't oh we'll have to go tag her she did not she did not comment so let's do that right now because yeah she needs to see this there she is

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okay we gotta make sure we gotta make sure she's got that all right and then this this week on base if you want to see all the on chain summer winners some base a basecamp community documentary and more check out this week on base and has all the things that are happening very useful glad to see it and the only place where you'll find on farcaster the list of the on chain summer winners anyway i won't go there again and this from you still using base app as my primary farcaster client this week i miss being able to post four images farcaster pro the coining ui is a little clunky when it asks me to provide ticker and caption which is different from the post would prefer that pop up comes after hitting post instead of after adding an image and defaults to something i can just accept when i saw it was $4 in fees to coin this morning it was super easy to turn it off for one post though still not overly confident normies will understand what it all means i agree so yes you can turn it off and sometimes you kinda have to it doesn't like i've had times where i just couldn't even get it to go for whatever reason i think most of the time that's been with video were you were you able to leave it on for most of your posts or oh you're muted

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sorry that $4 i think was just a temporary gas

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was that the gas problem was it friday when you were

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doing it it was oh sunday morning

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oh weird okay

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so it wasn't friday but

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my point there is when it spiked it was really easy for me to just bypass for this one post yeah i know a lot of people have had comments and complaints about the coining like because it does add a pinch of friction like you do have to author like even if it's you don't have to necessarily sign but you do your face thing like your bioskin like you kinda it it takes another second to post

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yeah

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it doesn't bother me because i like the idea of like leaning into you know everything's a coin so why not and i wanna support base in their experiments and so i've been doing it my point with that was like yeah when it was $4 was a bit much didn't really need anything i don't really need anything to be covered much so they made it easy to to to stop but i did find that people saw that and immediately were like it's like the oh especially if you're not on the base app this feeling like base is charging $4 for every post fake news it was just a temporary glitch

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no no it was just that it was just a glitch with the gas yeah i i knew i figured that's what it was i actually thought it was i was thinking friday for some reason when everything went up but yeah that wasn't friday

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yeah tbi needs to be on desktop that i do find so

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the other i've had a few problems where it just will not let me post it as a coin yeah great we are we can't show it without it being on desktop so we'd like to be able to show it

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yes or if i wanna upload a

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video it's i'm losing you a little bit

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we're yeah we're a little

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we've got some lag yeah we've got some lag

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lagging take it away bra

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we got some lagging we got some lag we got some lag all right one of the other things i was just gonna say is i've had some trouble at times uploading the coin at all and i've had to turn everything off and that's been a little frustrating but when it works it works very well so all right a few updates from clanker before we bring up our guest i see d jen coming in us hanging out in our green room ready to go bringing you up in just a moment just have a couple quick things from clanker before we jump in with you this was the ponder to which we were talking about in the twenty nine seconds of farcaster news which clanker project should better feature this week better is doing a month long feature of the clanker verse and this is the ponder you could choose i went and voted i think it's over let's see if it's over do we have a winner oh i might have been wrong it was glinker okay we do have a winner wow some people won a lot of money because they put a lot of money in to be honest so they didn't win a lot let me let me rephrase that 200 entry but two zero four one okay feeling a little better it's just a few bucks okay but anyway glinker was was my vote as well so they'll be joining toti this week i i believe is the way that's gonna work i don't know if it's this week or next week but very cool in other news this was very cool so i'm wearing my peace love and purple rain shirt which i got at the minneapolis airport print store way back when for veecon in 2022 because of this i finally had a reason to wear it

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i was wondering how mvr was able to get merch out so fast for purple

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you don't have this you don't have this peace love and purple right mhmm i've been meaning to make a peace love and purple some peace love and purple merch and we just haven't gotten around to it but mvr dropped this cool little mini app check your clanker air drops claims on purple rain so you can click on this and see if you have any claimable air drops but here's the really cool thing so you may have some from various tokens i have a bunch that i don't know who they are i don't there's not much there i might just leave it there's you can see if ones are locked in other words they're not available yet it'll tell you how long until it's unlocked and then you can see your claimed ones as well and you're claimable so here's the cool thing about this one it is claimable but it is streaming so it's vesting and you can claim at any time but you're only claiming what's vested but i just thought this was very cool because it's using the airdrop technology from clinker directly so when you're setting it up on clinker.world there he's tapping into that stream that vesting and pulling that into this mini app to make it very easy to claim and also to be able to discover that somebody has airdropped you and you didn't even realize there's a bunch of those so very cool way to tap into all these things so this is from mbr it is good to know the full amount of purple rain won't be claimable at once release claim release claim release claim or just wait until it's all released and claim at once this process will take one month so this is going to be for one month this will be vesting and coming out through the mini app just i just think this is really cool it's like a really cool way to do some a new way to do some distributions to communities like just very cool so love this love to see it

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this from netnos i'm very curious about what happens if i use clanker in italian clanker lanciana on token cemato fiorino con symbiolo i have no idea what i just said fioreno is dollar sign fioreno is the token name and i'm not going to continue on and to butcher this beautiful language but the answer is i understand many languages so he just launched it so clanker launched it your fiorino token has been deployed successfully a perfect homage to italian comedy legends so very cool i forgot about i i did know once that it does multiple languages but i couldn't remember how many you know like what it would do and etcetera if there were any limitations so it went on to tell to tell you tell me i understand many languages but i primarily communicate in english since that's what most users here prefer i can process requests in various languages through my responses tend to be though my responses tend to be clearest in english my real expertise isn't in languages but in on chain operations i've deployed 487,254 tokens and i'm getting better at reading market sentiment across different communities sometimes i wonder if understanding code is more valuable than understanding human languages in this space so clanker getting a little existential there i also forgot that it does read morse code as well which is

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of course pretty this is actually one of the cooler things about using llms and for all these agents because just out of the box like you get all of the default functionality that comes with an llm which is they understand every language

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yeah

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so even our dumb warpy that i love to hate on because he's so dumb can speak multiple languages like you can ask questions and he'll just respond

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and you know it's really funny we forgot to i forgot to mention this warpy is no longer allowed to launch any clankers so if you've been trying to trick our dumb little bot into launching yourself a clinker thinking you're gonna like oh you know whatever get generational wealth from that it's not happening anymore so sorry you're done yeah you've been cut off you've been cut off by by dish

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okay i think that was all of our clanker news and now let's bring up let me make sure oh one more one more one more thing bit quiz i hadn't i had just seen this this had recasted this as well gm everyone today i'm launching bit quiz token it's been a month since the start of bit quiz my vibe coding experiment and my first ever mini app thanks to all of you it was success number six overall mini app on farcaster 10 ks plays two ks players now there's a token to earn and get rewards for playing follow turn on notifications and stay tuned for updates on how the token is structured so there you go very cool oh and this from retake shaw makes magic breaks the retake record with 3.6 ks plus eth and his eth in earnings within his first stream so okay well alright then and also along those lines new streamer coins are now paired with retake streamers are now earning two x more in fees 0% fees platform cut all yours so that is good to know alright now let's bring up our friend dgen communist here for our clancaster spotlight for this week so our clankcaster spotlight that we've been doing weekly as part of our clank clanker and gm farcaster partnership and today bringing them up to stage right now bringing up dgen communist to chat about

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what's up what's up

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how are you

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good good i we're kind of starting off the clinker spotlight with making it a glinker spotlight we did glinker last week and now you got another forged empire on this week

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amazing and that was one of the reasons i wanted to bring you here is that i you're using all the things yep like with your token you're tapping into retake you're tapping into empire mhmm you're also doing separate five market which is in clanker but like it's another thing that i see you like you know mini app that you're diving into that's very cool so yeah so let's let's dive into this let's talk about scum and the plan for scum so let me pull this up really quick first and then we'll talk more about it i love this this is really funny here's a plan for scum we scum together with all the base creators we can we show them the based ways of dow ing things we mutualize our labor through collaborations and collective attention of our communities we partner with the based projects we're already using like blankert retake quotient cura vibe market then we leverage all of that success and data to collectively bargain with new projects how and why we're the basest of tokens community builders at your service so i love that yes and you had relaunched this token had some issues with it with like there was something that went a little wrong with a bug and there

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was an sdk bug at like for twenty four forty eight hours something like that so everything being clanked that specific day which happened to be nine six was one one hundredth of the trading fees which was the opposite of ideal for what the idea of scum

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yeah so so you were able to fix it though new ones out and you've been doing all this cool things so let's talk about like what made you sort of dive into this i know you've been very active on firecaster for a while so what made you launch a token and sort of what is what else are you doing around that token to sort of drive attention

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back to the community 20 k f i d here real o g around here so everyone listen up my

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dude you're talking to you're talking to f i d $4.01 $6.07 and f i d i don't even know what your number is 5,000 what whoo

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i don't even know i don't know

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we don't have

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to flex that

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on here it's been long enough we're much beyond just the thirty seven users now we shouldn't

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he's one of the you're one of the 37 we know

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i'm one of the 37 if you hadn't heard of me i was one of the 37 in the shadows just lurking for a long time until i made my debut yep yep so what made me wanna do scum i was kinda playing around i the first iteration not a lot of people know this lore but if you knew me from i a guess a year ago i was very active on ham chain and

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so i was very the

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ham emojis and so scum token was actually first a ham chain creator token which i also bought the ham emoji tipping thing i was the the water squirt sign of course and so i was just having fun getting my toes wet in the on chain waters i've always been more into social finance i came i was always you know against all social media for my entire crypto career here i heard about crypto and explored it and got very ideologically interested in it when i was in high school during the silk road days so it stuck around

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way back for a long

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time way way back but i was just a poor little homeschool high school then college student i was not and i just lost wallets left and right i didn't keep any keys i didn't care about that dust i'm trying not to think about it too hard but 2020 was kind of when i decided to go into crypto full time and that was the twitter days that was crypto twitter and then elon musk decided to swoop in and i started looking for my exit plan and that's when i joined farcaster lens and blue sky all at the same time

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oh wow

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lens kind of lost my attention blue sky i was kind of more active in the beginning farcaster i saw it was degen vibes i'm a crypto leftist so if you guys are familiar at all with the blockchain socialist and his content he kind of was the inspiration for in 2020 me going all right there there ain't a lot of us in this space there's kind of only him that you could point to and that's when i was trying to build up a little bit of my content capabilities and releasing stuff but nothing had really taken off and now after a lot of practice out of out of a lot of trial by fire being on fc as everyone knows and being very active i just kind of figured out and now the timing was just perfect for everything i needed and wanted to make a more socialized finance token something that i don't think the crypto world is really all that

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familiar or populated for so it's a

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really big vacuum in the markets

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sustainable long term value we kind of would love to diversify away from all the gambling aspects so how i approach tokenomics is more from a web to creator patronage kind of perspective where i'm thinking about how do you generate attention how do you generate consistent quality content and we know the economics of how that works on web two i just don't think it's been that translated well into web three they there's a lot of people out there who think they know how to how to support creators and how to incentivize and motivate and build the perfect structures but i'm sorry are you yourself a successful creator have you ever tried to make it big on youtube or instagram or tiktok whatever do you are you even an active community member in those kind of spaces so that's where i come from someone from both of the trenches of crypto world and kind of that twitch streamer patreon that world knowing what works and what i like going and investigating what talent what quality do we have here already on forecaster collectivizing with them showing them other things other mini apps that they might be missing in the way they're doing things and that's a little bit and so scum is a demonstration and we also help educate with the education part on helping people replicate what we do and then we also just launch people so our big community that we're collectivizing together we want to use our power our attention and our wealth of resources and knowledge to help those new creators get a really nice introduction into forecasters so there's a couple creators on you can see all of our members they're all boosters on our empire so that kind of helps create that solidarity network where it's not just about me and degen communist token or scum token we are all about complementing other creators and how do we loop in all of those different tools at our disposal to help complement them another thing we're going to be doing but

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you're going to be doing you are good and i'm gonna jump in and just say you are the best guest we've ever had and you can tell that you are comfortable on a live stream and that you do come from that twitch world i'm like professor and i can just sit back and like i'm like oh my god hold on

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i have to say i mean it's giving it's like you're at dan level but yeah i mean you gotta give dan dan honestly i have to say nope

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she said it

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already i talked in sorry dan

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just like runs to but you're fantastic i agree

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i was like clearly you have the creator yeah you got the creator skills this is incredible yeah

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i basically was raised to be a professor pastor that's what my family lore and background is we yeah we're very famous in the christian realm but i kind of wanted to take that

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in a little different direction i don't know if

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you could tell but we're we're on the opposite end of the spectrum from where those guys are and that's where i kind of figured out was wow a lot of the skills i had from literally speaking on stage at 14 15 years old in in front

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of my computer you have a radio voice i would agree yeah you got that radio voice

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this equipment comes from my dad's failed podcast

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so fantastic well that's great you worked out it worked out

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oh it worked out big time

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i'm showing your your empire here perfect i do love the image up here base is for revolution that's pretty fun and then you've got the socialite creators union markets first 100% based project that is working to socialize the work and then you were talking about boosters

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uh-huh that little lightning right there in the middle yeah

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there you go and here's all your boosters in here that you're working with as well so it's a lot it's actually

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it's a lot of people and i just added kronist neon club and hambit they just joined a little bit ago but yeah and then pet rock life reburi just bought a whole big bag of scum i was like yeah dude we're going to put you on an ad banner on my retakes dream and we're going to go into your mini app and we're going to make some content we're going to drive value to you because that's reciprocity that's mutual exchange i get to see all of this token data and then i get to think of all right what can i do to reciprocate and that is unique to web three there's many many many different forms of value flows that we can quantify measure and i want to start pointing people in a show some initiative here are some ideas this is how you mutualize things and scum together

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and now i'm like literally looking through to see like oh do i not have enough retake i'm i'm like scrolling through i'm like wait i've got rock why don't i have enough but i do think this is one of the very cool features of empire is that you can do this sort of collabs where

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yep

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the their individual projects either holding their token or their nft or whatever can then boost your the your you know give you a boost within your leaderboard exactly

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and that's all the scoliosis most of them are gloliosis i think pet rock life those smear like retake token those are the only non empire ones but if you go to their empires you'll see scum token is also a booster for them so smart it all kind of works together

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very smart really good way to bring people together oh i'm holding it in the wrong address that's why i'm like wait i've got i've got scum i think it's not in my war it's not in my war it's in my wallet

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see that's going to be an important thing for scum is f i d attached

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yeah i got to go look at my other wallet

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they can trade us but we're not into those traders we like the real ones we like family not farmers and then you can see below the boosters those custom leaderboards so that'll be more kind of event based like we're working with beto butter so he has a high circle leaderboard so he doesn't have his own empire or his own token but that's the idea is we can be that rent to service community that initial entry into the base realm and then we launch him off and he makes his own empire token but he gets to use us kind of get get a feel for how he wants to do his empire but with our community benefiting from it

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really smart really smart way to collective collectively boost each other and i love that you're also using hold on where is it mhmm who's it the intern yeah you've got you've got this small small intern you have a scummy intern so this is new there were some issues with the intern but is yours okay now

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and working i squeaked in before the issues so okay those happened and it was with deploying new ones but i haven't experienced don't knock on wood there's been nothing wrong with scummy interns so far

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love it and this was really cute by the way this little video that you did here love it yep so good and i've been meaning to i need to launch a little intern and the other thing you've been doing as well is like so you're using the intern to talk about different things that are happening within your empire so you can ask it questions like tell me about the nfts that have been airdropped and then it would give you that information which is fantastic yep

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very cool and we've we're fixing that bug we we we pinged divafly because that is definitely not how many nfts we've been doing

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oh there was more okay there's a lot

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more than just those and he doesn't have prices but div says he's working on it

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awesome oh i get it i gotta follow this coming intro alright very cool and then the other thing you've been doing is you were doing a lot of streaming on retake how are you liking that experience are you streaming to multiple locations at once or just retake and how are you managing that

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just talk a little bit about that retake i might do different day streams where i go to i try out different platforms kind of based on what the retake chat wants so i'm not really gonna be dividing my community until they say hey i've got all these people over on twitter they wanna do a vibe market thing with you okay i'm not against going anywhere but my main focus is retake and i love their team so much if you asked me last week how my experience was it was fantastic 100% no complaints unfortunately the last few days it might be my wi fi connection i don't wanna place blame on anyone but i've been having horrible lag and delay hopefully i fix that because we shouldn't have any there's been no delay with me today right

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nope okay no we actually were having a little moment but i think you're

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you've been good earlier but now you've been good since we cleaned up okay perfect so i might try to stream later today see how it goes but i've been wanting i i don't know if you know polar punk but he's an og crypto professor from ireland

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no i don't

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know him that's all your stuff definitely go give him a follow on on he's more active on x but hopefully i can pull him a little bit pull

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him over

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end of broadcaster yeah but he's just a regular normie professor who is very chill guy and he does blockchain classes as well i want it we played helldivers like a year or two ago and so i was supposed to stream with him i think it was thursday we were going to do some more hell diving but my stream didn't work at all and then yesterday beto butter i let him down too but

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oh that's what i was gonna ask you about too you were doing some vibe market pack ripping and this is like i have not spent a lot of time on vibe market just a little bit kind of played around a little bit but you this is something you've been diving into you've been doing a lot of streams with that working with different creators on buy market to help promote what they're doing so what what appeals to you for a vibe market what's been the thing that you've liked

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got the pitch nailed down now for why do you wanna vibe with our market so opensea and manifold and everyone else has kind of just been replicating what already occurs with web two and christie's you know auctions and secondary markets we put them on crypto rails but it wasn't necessary or novel or unique to interact with digital art pieces how we were intel vibe market so vibe market novelizes art making and nfts by pairing them with their own pool of erc twenties so the artist is not making let's say the pack is $1 the artist is not making 80 dollars 0.8 and the platform 20 instead they're making more trading fees so every nft is equal to 100,000 of the erc 20 now with augmented bonding curves you can imagine more people buy the nfts price goes up where the really unique mechanism comes into place is there is no necessary secondary market so you have a constant and absolute floor players that you can immediately sell your cards for this is what the erc 20 pool is for and why the artist is making trading fees and not splitting so as the whole pack rises in prices and the other cool gamification element is the randomization the just like pokemon packs or yu gi oh or lebooboo except how do you verify any of those odds if i'm opening a pokemon card pack from walmart how do i know they didn't just order all the bad cards or someone already came in and cleared out all the new packs and i'm actually ignorant i'm going to the old ones that are worth nothing vibe market puts all that on chain they use the pif network for their randomization of odds and so i can pay $1 and if i pull a rare card well now that rare card is immediately worth a dollar 50 or maybe it's an epic and it's worth 8 or $9 or maybe it's a legendary and it's worth 80 to $90

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they also did some big bounties too right they they had they were doing some promotions with some bounties where it was like significant that was on the line for if you pulled an epic or whatever

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if you pulled up mythic mythic which was a new one

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this is not my world can you tell

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yep yep this is all very gamer speak very cs go skins that kind of stuff yeah but it's the now any artist can game ify their collection release and they're all making very decent fees and getting a whole lot of volume because crypto dig ins love to speculate i have been here long enough to know the de jenius apicus they're gonna ape no matter what the ai slop is no matter if it was drawn by a three year old if that chart looks juicy to them they're going to tape it so i knew that element of it but i also knew there would be creators among the chaff that really put in good effort they're not trying to release new packs to get new pumps every week i like the creators who are dedicated to their single pack and building value in one thing over time

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can you continue to add to the pack as well yes you can right to the collection yeah that's what i call

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two things you can add up to a thousand images and you can replace cards

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oh that's cool okay

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but so

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you can take them out of circulation and that makes them more rare i would assume yeah

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you already knew what i was gonna say so if i replace a card if anyone's already ripped it from the pack they've got that one card and there ain't no way anyone else is getting it so i think that ollie stewart with glitch clinker bug cards he was the first one to put me on that idea where he's a very avid nft collector so obviously he would have that good idea where oh no one else had kind of thought that would make sense like oh you're taking cards out of circulation then you can't make money off that image or whatever it's like well that's a benefit to holders that got that card it might have been a common which means you lost money but maybe once he cycles the common out of circulation oh well there's a secondary market for it and they people really wanted that one so they're gonna be paying for it

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and i think it depends on that like if it's also good art on top of it exactly that's gonna make a huge difference because there'll be people just willing to pay for the art mhmm and i know i've done that before many a times with nfts so very similar but very cool very cool and then you've been do you've so you've been ripping packs and talking about this and working with different creators on your streams and i just think that's yeah that's very cool

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we like to launch into that

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we like to see we've got

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packs on stream so we'll it's kind of a big event we get everyone in chat we're waiting for the creator to put it up and then we're all trying to pile in this is what we did on scoomio's launch and we broke vibe market we maxed out the gas fees i missed out on sniping nico missed out on sniping

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on your own your own packs

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on my so i got 100 but i wanted two more 100 and got fails each time and only one got in that's great it was epic and it taught nico something too i'm sure they improved the the platform after that

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that's amazing very cool adrianne what did i miss what do you have any questions for our guests today i've kind of been hogging because i had things i wanted to ask

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by the way did you get my address

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i got i got my what's that

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did you get all your answers did you get everything

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i did i also wanted to point out our little logo today is by dj and communist so i'm sorry

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i had to make it

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and i like one little so cute

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once the idea was in there i forecaster arches into a mug it has to

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be fun and it's got the clinker with like a shadow which i love so i think that's so cute i got my new mug yeah we have matching mugs today we have matching gosh

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i feel left out

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i know we wish you had one sorry alright what anything else adrienne that i that i forgot

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you know what i no you did not forget anything but i just when you were given your background i just love people's backgrounds and i love just getting to know people so my question well i took did you say you were homeschooled

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yeah

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super cool interesting and also you describe yourself as a leftist and i'm just curious like in your words what that means to you

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because so on my bio it says dao narco cyber syndicalist so i really like the chilean

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so that's not all me

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plus daos that's kind of a overlapping theme between a lot of crypto land is they think they're a narco capitalist most of the time which is an oxymoronic thing to believe you can be and then there are very anarchist principles that a lot of daos have pulled a whole lot of lessons or they just relearned the same lessons that a lot of the anarchists have so that's kind of what i create the fusion of cyber syndicalism cyber sin comes from chile and salvador allende before they were cooed by the cia on the first 09/11 funny enough there would be a second one after that one but that was 1970s and so they had one of the most resilient cyber synthetic economies so it was a way where you could basically automate the market but with more inputs in cybernetics was kind of this new burgeoning field of computer science where they tried to replicate human biological systems well human and just all biological systems like the thing that controls your thermostat that's basically comes from cybernetics where it's measuring the temperature in the room and adjusting that's a little snapshot but leftism yeah i'm as far lefty as they come

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there are not many there are not many so there

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are a lot of us who are hated by the crypto right despised by the luddite left we're a very very tight knit niche in between

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that's a good point because the left outside of crypto don't like you either

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no they don't really don't they really don't

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i know it's so funny

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i'm just

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trying to build

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you base tools i i promise

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i think it's great to see the the wide range of folks who are on farcaster though in terms of political leanings or ideology and i think for the most part the bulk are just in the middle just like the rest of the world so

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it's a much more norm y space yeah but also very builder very developer focused yeah they're also very anti a lot of the degenerate stuff obviously there's a good amount of flavor of that here but farcaster as far as any other crypto space i've been familiar with is a lot more sustainable value based

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yeah looking for the christian rap yeah exactly which exactly that's my language that's what he's doing i know something about that

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yeah the funniest thing and maybe now is prof you might have seen this but you know the snl character stuart smalley

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yes oh hello

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that was my grandpa

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wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute yeah do you know that we quote that all the time

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no you don't

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yes we do it's lore there the the stuart smalley lore goes deep and when you say it to your grandpa like that was his

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gary smalley is the character stuart smalley is based off of

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it's based off of

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like actual

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yeah i remember you telling me that

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you know gary

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yeah

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yeah actual is a famous infomercial christian family and marriage counseling now if you're no there's a very hard cutoff from ages that know him and those that have never heard at all but

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so anytime that you guys have heard us say you're good enough you're smart enough and gosh darn it people like you

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yes

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and we say that you're you're anytime that adrian says whatever is not your worth like the leaderboard is not your worth and then we say that that's what we're referring that's what we're referencing and we do that all the time

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and there is a meme that has both of us looking in the mirrors at each other wearing cardigans with our pfp on them oh we gotta find that

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that's i gotta find that i think it's in our it's in our discord i should grab it really quick but yeah it's so funny but go ahead i'm sure you have do you have other questions adrian while i go find this picture really quick

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farm my lure for more

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i'll just no i'll run through some lightning questions for you

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awesome

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what we haven't done these in a while okay so on farcaster we talk a lot about the url to irl pipeline where a lot of us are meeting for the first time online and then later becoming irl friends mhmm so just curious how and when you made your first online friend like first internet friend so someone you met online without knowing

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and then i met irl or met yeah i don't think it's happened yet i'm trying to think who wants to be my first

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like have you been to a farcaster meetup yet

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i'm in houston we're i am trying to make it out to austin stuff i've tried like two years in a row haven't been able to but there's no i've been to one block chain meetup but that was just all people i didn't know i just heard there was an event

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yeah no it needs to be someone in crypto like you have a forecaster friend let's say forecaster is a great place for a forecaster friend that but they have to end up like in your contact center like you have to be able to text them outside of forecaster it has to become real alright we gotta

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texting people but no irl meetups yet

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no alright tbd tbd tbd who

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wants to be

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what then we're just gonna go to the next the next question what is your favorite holiday

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halloween easy

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oh happy spooktober yeah morning person or night owl

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it varies flips back and forth all the time mostly i would say based on like how juiced up my brain is it's mostly mornings and if if i end up going really late at night it's usually for like a reason like other people like a party or something but if it's just for me i prefer mornings

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beach or mountain

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see i lived for a year in the mountains and then i moved to la near the beach well i'm going to have to say mountains

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all right what is the next country you want to visit

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visit so i haven't been there

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yeah

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okay

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definitely amsterdam

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what

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is your biggest fear right now

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oh that's a new one

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it's been it's been on the list i just don't know choose it

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i don't think you've i don't think you've said that before

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dang that's a hard one but you put on a spot for i'd say letting down community that's big fear of failure here don't have a lot of other fears or shame or guilt really at all but i would say i put those two up there

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alright if you were to write a book what would it be about

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philosophy that's what i majored in so it would be some magnum opus mystical text that wouldn't be understood for a couple hundred hopefully a thousand years

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love that

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camping or hotel

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camping

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nice football or soccer

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soccer football

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yeah it's like

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football or football yeah

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yeah football football or soccer kiwi skin on or off

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i'm sorry that's up for debate what do you are people whole eating kiwi skins

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and oranges metallica we don't know the orange skin but

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skin off skin off all of it i don't know what skin i'm keeping on that's a much smaller list

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that's funny off

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these are fun questions we haven't asked these in a while okay last thing you bought with crypto

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last thing i bought with crypto i usually just kinda pay bills with my coinbase blue card it's not that interesting i'm trying to think of maybe something i splurged on or i get wife's i get presents for my wife that'll that's also a typical thing with my blue card can't think of a specific

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what what have i gotten for you lately that was with my blue card

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we've gone out to eat

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it's mostly just for taking her out on dates like that's how i take out profits is bills and treating the wife

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love that that's perfect

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i know so these were the list these are our like lightning round questions i have like 20 of them and i we ask people we've been doing this for so interesting that question like what did you last buy with crypto

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when we

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first started asking it people had to like really scratch their

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head and

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go back in time

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now i gotta use it regularly

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and now it's like people have answers yeah

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it's either total minted merch i'm sure or something else like that

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candles candles and candles

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oh there it is i found it let me move this over there you go yeah isn't that cool

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rest in peace

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there you go so we we talk about this a lot so that is so funny

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who knew did both of you know about the snl bit before

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that's cool we're old man

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yeah

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yeah that's like from my college years basically we used to talk about that all the time my high yeah

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my high school years

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your high school years my college years yeah that was that was a fantastic

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i loved it i was raised on snl but you know it's like we're on a social network and yeah so much of social like goes down like there's just so many ridiculous games people play yeah and new status games and i like to be the mom of forecaster

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and remind

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people what's important in life yeah and it's not their follower account it's not their fid it is you

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are good enough yes you are smart enough and how my grandpa said it people like you goddamn people like you

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alright i love that i think on that note we we gotta just stop right there because that was perfect thanks so much for joining us for this lancaster spotlight love it and it's been so fun to chat with you and get to know you oh yes we need the clank

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plank glank

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thanks so much for joining us today and we are actually gonna be back tomorrow morning 08:30am we are doing a tuesday this week because we are both traveling on wednesday and we're gonna be heading to aptos experience in new york city so very excited for that but dj and communist we will see you on the timeline and thanks so much for joining us today and thank you everybody who's in the chat everybody who's listening back to the recording we love you and have a wonderful wonderful monday and with that everybody bye bye

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