Transcript: TNBT: Burnt Rolls,Clanker Trolls, and the Great CA Confusion of 2025: GM Farcaster ep314

covers everybody appreciate our graphics appreciate the thanksgiving graphics while we yeah we're like discussing whether or not this border is a little too cliparty fourth grade

it's a second yeah so we're gonna take that off during in just a little bit but we'll we'll let you enjoy it for the moment we're you know i i hesitate to say we're gonna have a short show because i don't i can't guarantee that but it is a holiday week so we have a little less to chat about we still got some things happening it was a surprisingly eventful day yesterday so we'll have we'll have some things to chat about are you ready adrienne yeah should we get this party started

if you're already was one of

yeah that's it was something if you're watching already and you're with us retweet recast let people know we are live and we will be back on the other side of this forty seconds

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g m farcaster it is wednesday november 26 and you are here with nounish prof and adrienne for twenty nine minutes of forecast news to start your day and happy thanks happy tnbt tnbt it's the night before thanksgiving yeah we call that tnbt i don't know about you if you

oh right i mean it's probably a hometown thing it's a it's a yeah yeah it's one of my thingies but we always it was always a big deal it was always like the night before thanksgiving was always a big deal like in my twenties like in coming back from college kinda thing so

big party night careful out there

and now it's a big cooking night for you

and i am an adult with no family nearby so i don't have to cook so hey it's just my mom and my son and we're gonna go to a restaurant tomorrow and i couldn't be happier

i will i kinda miss i mean i miss it a little bit like of the big family dinners but i also don't miss the prep and the cook and the cleanup and all that stuff i can live without that

that's

you can control the yeah what goes on the table yeah we always had very traditional and my plate always only had beige food and that was like the joke with my cousins like just the beige food over here everything else got passed right by me like oh carrots squash get rid of this get rid of that you know went right past me so that and then we always and it's an irish family mostly and one side of the family other side's lebanese but the irish family we'd know when dinner was ready because you'd smell the rolls burning like so once the rolls were burnt

great cooks in the family great cooks in the family

good move

we are not serious people alright i'm getting rid of the border say goodbye and happy thanksgiving to the border it's too much

too much

there for a little bit it did have these little options too but there was like that's too little there's little turkey badges and stuff they're cute alright anyway moving on by the way and i meant to i almost grabbed this and i forgot to grab the macy's parade try emerge we showed it the other day but you all should go make one because they're really cool i really love that one that was great alright let's dive

sometimes it's fun first thing i wanna start with is just another shout out to the haberdashery starting next week wednesdays we will have a haberdashery spotlight so they will be sponsoring us for two months and we are excited we had a chat with purp we're excited to add some education into this because part of what the haberdashery is doing is some rewards for liquidity pools and things like that so we want to add some education around like what are liquidity pools how do you contribute to one what is this whole thing so diving into a little bit more of defi talking about uniswap before hooks because that's been a big topic and that's gonna be part of what the haberdashery funded with this particular prop as well as funding us so very excited and this was from vocdoni last week the haberdashery put davinci.vote to work for one of their dow proposals the vote ran smoothly anonymous protected against coercion and fully gasless for this election all voting logic ran through our smart contracts on base guaranteeing verifiable integrity and results on chain results on chain settlement huge credit to the haberdashery for supporting our tech and pioneering its use and special thanks to purp so this is one of the projects that the haberdashery has funded over the years so go check them out if you're looking for a voting solution for your daw or other organization alrighty moving on i don't know if we talked about this i don't think we did so i grabbed it because i think we forgot this one so this was from vee a couple days ago by usdc with debit card i think i know why i skipped it because i'm like who has cash that they like that's why

like you know if you're out there and you're a normie and you suddenly feel that you know you wanna fund your farcaster wallet because you will have still have no fees right now and some of the lowest fees so there you go you can now buy up to 2,500 of usdc every week with your debit card go to wallet deposit by crypto to get started issue to daniel for the great work on this we'll go to the

it's true i mean they gotta do that gotta do that

on chain it's not as easier to it's not as easy to take it off no well you just have to yes you have

and i

when he's on their bank

of prop houses and things like that and i would be i just you know here sell me the eth i'll i'll just give it to you yeah yeah to make it easy so and it's the same thing with my students that's really funny because at the end of the semester i one of the assignments was what are you gonna do with the crypto you have now and most of them just left it where it was and they'll probably forget all about it they don't have a whole bunch

and i don't make them set up a coinbase account like or an exchange account because that's the because i'm sending them some ethereum to use during the class so they don't need to but this is a this is a cool feature it'll come in handy for somebody so there you go alright moving on and it did so the monad air monad launch was monday and if you had an airdrop from them it was in your wallet on monday it was sent out so if you're if you already did your claim on the monad.xyz site where you opened up the boxes and did that whole little thing it was just sent to you so if you don't see it in your wallet your wallet may not recognize it sometimes you have to import those tokens like to metamask but if you go connect it to something like macho you'll see it in there as well so this from farcaster in addition to the 2,000 farcaster users who received the official monad airdrop 1,000 top traders on farcaster will also receive mon tokens so there was another drop that was sent out on farcaster and the only place i saw it what to claim was in my notifications so if you missed it scroll back through your notifications and if you're like me this is gonna take a while

find it but it was on monday and if you scroll back you'll see the the claim process so you may have you know a few more 100 sitting there and honestly it's really smart because then people started launching things on clanker so you had some mon to be able to do that so that was cool this from honeymoneyeth being an active trader on farcaster pays out i wasn't eligible for the initial drop but got something even better thank you to both farcaster and monad teams $750 airdrop by using the smoothest wallet with the lowest fees out there we take it all day long so very exciting there you go mine wasn't that high but good for you it was a lot less than that this from dish monad deploys are now live through clanker worlds deploy form and i think now they are also live via tagging clanker so that i think launched later on key differences initial starting market cap will be 100 k mon only static fees are enabled so they did create dynamic fees recently but for this you can only do the static fees one full range lp position is placed bot deployments will be out later today pre clanks and api deploys will be a fast follow so i think some of that is already out there so go check that out if you're interested and i did do a little experiment i know some other people did as well best one i saw was oxens in my opinion moe or more a fundamental mimetic germ of monads so i clanked a clanker called more if there's ever a monad season then i can imagine people saying more more like higher in other it goes past and then eventually some with higher self i can't babysit it but i think it's an interesting idea anyway it's out in the wild now more i did think that was smart that was a very smart one i wanted to just figure out how it worked so i clanked this just a little homage to billy idol with a moanie moanie a little moanie moanie yeah

yeah there you go that was that was the idea and it was actually the number one song this past week i think it's already passed over but the past week when i launched this it was the number one song in the usa in 1987 this particular week so there you go perfect

so you knew okay when exactly did it come out and then i was like wow it actually came out this past week a year 1987 so there you go but yeah so there you go just a couple experiments nfa d y o r probably shouldn't buy either of these but just kinda sharing there's a bunch of experiments going on from people just testing out the monad clanking it is different there's different liquidity there's different rewards like it definitely works a little different it was hard to figure out because i did it pretty early right after his announcement just to kinda play around and it was hard to figure out the dev buy because it's still listing it in eth even though it's using mon and it was a little tricky to figure out like how much to do and stuff like that so anyway go check that out okay i'm just trying to decide where i wanna go next i don't think i wanna do that yet let me get a couple other things done before i jump into this oh it's all this never mind the rest of it is all this what are you avoiding

not touching them

there are no rewards yet they are gonna be doing some random rewards coming up but there was nothing for this week this was pride not prize and this is from bertwurst maybe the real farcaster rewards was getting more engagement than dwr in his own protocol along the way so it was fun to watch that back and forth happening and i was enjoying that like little rivalry fun moment i think i ended up at like number eight or something like that which i also enjoyed so thank you

urban on a leaderboard oh how the tide has turned i love it i love this leaderboard alright let's dive into the big thing and i still have other things we're gonna

what is this here's what happened so let's start with facts dan dwr casted this c a and this long zero x number so when you cast ca people assume contract address so right below this hold on when did he say somebody had asked pretty early on here it is so when i had looked around ten minutes ish maybe a little less after this cast i saw k max say were you hacked were you hacked seeking first to understand and he said nope so and then somebody said to be fair this is what a hack person would say and i thought that was funny so and then he said when deck screen or never so it was all this like back and forth that made it sound like it was an actual token but he was not hacked so it was like okay this is safe to buy because he launched this and this was an eoa it was not a contract address it did not link to anything once when he put that in there however a very clever person launched a clanker in the ten minutes about ten maybe a little less than ten minutes after dan casted this they took that address and turned it into the title the name of a clanker so that when you click on it it leads to that clanker so dan had casted about 30 later or twenty something minutes later i was testing something there is no token here it's a random ethereum address i don't have the private key the problem was in between this happened where somebody had actually made it into a token so when you clicked on dan's original cast especially if you didn't see that one or if it was before he casted that you thought this was legit and it would bring you to this token so this is not financial advice do not buy this token now it's a bad idea so this is what happened and you can see where i bought and where i sold that's what these little things are thank you slope yeah so thank you for that so yeah so that's what happened and then here's what happened next so needless to say people got a little cranky about this but also funny so let's start with the funny so people started casting ca in various things this was from six casting the map with california this was garrett canada there was a couple of canadas because yours is different there was a couple of canadas that were that were casted this was my personal favorite from matthewfox took me a second appreciated that that is christina aguilera if you're not familiar

it's christina aguilera from like this is straight out of the nineties like the american music awards or something

i liked this from horsefacts address coins with the drawn draper meme but this one was probably the most accurate it's giving this is from jrf post ca why would you buy this okay because here's what happened

dean got a little cranky about people pushing back on the fact that this happened and you know i think there was a way to frame this as like hey i i when i casted it it would have been very simple to just say hey when i casted this it was only a wallet i it didn't occur to me someone was gonna turn it into a token sorry about that i should have been more clear because as soon as he started saying i was testing something everyone was like oh okay well you know stop buying this thing also the the person who did create the token had an opportunity to turn this around a bit as well and probably would have done better if he had and just say hey i saw what dan did and i did this so it's me it's not dan like instead of trying to pass it off like it was dan's token so there was a couple

honestly then everyone would

that was smart like that was actually you know because in my mind i'm like you know what that was pretty savvy that was pretty savvy so you coulda owned that savviness and run with it and made it funny and it coulda been like a runner it really coulda instead what happened was some people lost money i don't think anyone lost any big money but i wasn't paying attention to what the buys were like me i always do like i'm doing like a $20 thing and like i lost $10 and i'm not gonna think anything of it because i do know it's my agency and i choose and chances are chances are that was gonna happen whether he did it on purpose or not like it was gonna

didn't think much of it but dan's response has set some people off a little bit because it's coming off as a little defensive and a little like a little tone deaf like not reading the room

which is very true yeah everybody yeah which is true but it's true but like if you pass something if you post something that's ca the expectation is people will buy that if they think it's something that you're doing like this was a very foreseeable outcome that this would happen so i feel like there was multiple times to jump in with better comms like you know what i mean either right from the beginning right after you casted it hey i'm testing something even if you put it in the replies then it feels more on me like then it feels more like this is my i'm responsible okay i get what you're doing

this is the problem

that's it i know is the problem we can

there was just multiple times to make this a lot less worse and it just kept getting worse

was an intentional you know that was not the test we know that's not the test whatever you were testing that wasn't it it wasn't testing to see if people would just buy something random because that you know i don't think this was intentional whatsoever and i say that like i don't think he had you know a negative intent i think the response was done poorly like i don't think the original thing was a problem it's the yeah response after the fact so

oh that's funny because i have many times

the other thing is it started trending

two things you had two things going on and it's it's like and this is the way it's designed right i mean it's the the network is now designed to do that yeah so that if people and then because then the other response because somebody mentioned hey it was trending and dan said well that's just the people that you know or what and it's like doesn't matter doesn't matter

yeah

civil for the

and i

so if you look through some of the replies people were saying it it just depends it was all over the place so it was you know if you dig into the replies you'll see both of that and then there were other folks like oxen and garrett and a few other people who i saw casting things and then there were discussions within their threads as well so within something like that and there was a couple things like this with dan i didn't pull the other one i should've

when he did finally cast this but again this is like over twenty minutes later i think it was like twenty two minutes later or something there was some discussion in here as well and there was some if you look through some of these responses some of these are not great you know mhmm and then there's some people going what were you testing like what are you you know like what are you doing because everyone was like what's going on so even people who are someone's like don't know the call yeah yeah there was a lot of

my you can test with an there's a there were so many different ways to approach this so here was the one that that really threw some people off was this response like post something someone creates a token based off of it why did you make me buy the coin so i this is where the is where this kinda went off the rails as well in the replies

and even even i responded i'm like that's not their problem like that's not like that's not helpful i almost replied again i actually almost sent him a dm and then i'm like you know what he's getting piled on enough i don't need to add to this it's not gonna add any value i don't need to say this right now i just felt like there's there were so many opportunities to just deal with it differently and yeah the only people who lost were feel by greed and fomo and when it doesn't work they bring out their sanctimony sanctimony moony which i like that thank you that was good but the yes the message that users should be smarter is way more valuable than the annoying people who turn away maybe

i i in this of the time i 100% agree with that like you you you know if if somebody if you get scammed on something because you didn't look into who it was and i totally agree with that like it's on you adults have agency like no one's responsible no one made you buy it and that still holds true in this situation except for all the other things like except there were so many ways to mitigate this that just didn't get done and that could get done very quickly and that's what i'm frustrated a little about because it just there were so much easier ways to deal with this and it just didn't get done it didn't need it didn't need to be this bad it didn't need to be this bad

yeah i think it was i don't think that this was if you are now putting your focus in as trading and that this yes you're you just pissed off a bunch of people who are traders who whatever if that's what you want now if you don't care about that and like that's not your focus right now then whatever but i do think that this is a it was a big misstep it doesn't people were already cranky you just made them a million times crankier like how is that helpful it's not so that's all but so you're saying no it's not bad and you should

it was a good conversation i don't think so

bro i know

few more things on this

okay

i think that's a great idea and i think oh so a lot of those billboards and things you see that's part

that's why you have need permission online so there you go you don't need it

it's a they're not gonna make if you're not made to do it you're not gonna do it so so interesting and then

it's it's i think this situation was slightly different i really do i i think it was a big misstep that it was so easily avoided and i don't know we'll see it's just not it's not a good look unforced error that just didn't need to happen anyway moving on not really moving on but a couple more things on this

related

i know he's very cute i like him with the ca or a warpie warpie i call him warpie but others don't this is from links and i think this is interesting are you a chump or a jerk the space is filled with both chumps come in groups and they think things are true simply because they wish them so you might be a chump if you think you own any part of fc or that base is going to give you going to airdrop you some tokens that will give you some ownership of the network jerks take advantage of chumps they're experts in saying noncommittal things that lead chumps to believe the cool thing for their own ends for instance a jerk might allude to you owning a network or air dropping a token simply to get you to use the network they always have moral high ground in their mind because a they didn't technically lie and b they are maximizing shareholder value the thing is jerks need chumps more than chumps need jerks so if you are unhappy with the amount of jerks in this space stop being such a chump so that was interesting and there was some additional discussion down here so i'll just leave it at that do you think

i don't i don't think i'm a jerk at all but i think i've definitely been a chump on many occasions and i think that's normal in this space and in life almost this from limone as a user and builder oh let me let me start down here farcaster's founding premise was building a social is from nickysap was building social that doesn't extract from users the way web two platforms do that vision still matters to me but watching the platform aggressively push casino mechanics while influential accounts push extractive low captures is potentially more predatory and this went on to talk about this limone came back as a user and builder i actually care about one thing above everything else people actually using the network the new casino meta doesn't bother me meta doesn't bother me open systems attract all kinds of experiments even trading memes and speculation and that energy can pull new people and capital in what matters is we keep the core intact that two users should always find each other and talk no matter what if this direction brings more creators more builders more communities i'm all for it as long as farcaster stays in open permissionless as a protocol we're on the right path so i saw a lot of that i think this was a good example of the discussion that was going on like mhmm and it kinda some of it spun from this some of this has been going on continuously since the shift i think since the clanker purchase honestly and that shift towards

like you yeah yeah so i think this is a good discussion to have

i don't know how much we've accomplished with it yet but we'll see and then this was from you can't be evil versus won't be evil as an early forecaster user came for the decentralization who has been around long enough to see a lot of merkel's iteration in search of growth i always come back to the definition of sufficiently decentralized that varun wrote social a network achieves sufficient decentralization two users can find each other and communicate even if the rest of the network wants to prevent it that's the promise that's all i personally signed up for that's the thin line between can't be evil and won't be evil and i'll just leave that there

so a lot of that a lot of lot of discussion like that which is good

after it was after

i think so i think it was i have to go back and check but i'm pretty sure it was yeah it was after because dan at this point is sixteen hours ago i think so yeah sixteen he's around sixteen hours ago and nickys was seven hours ago

hold on then that's not right oh then maybe it was before

that's not right so yeah it was before yeah twenty years ago yep

yeah

much mhmm

i think that's that's fair yeah that's fair i think there's

yeah i think this conversation has been pretty continuous in different forms and we're just that's why i mean like this was a bit of a i think that was already percolating and then this happens and then it's just like oh fuck like oh no this is not good so i think that's that's where how that happened

oh i didn't even think of that i forget about that part youtube is surprisingly yeah they have they have issues with that sort of thing alright we got a couple more things that are a little lighter anything else you wanna say on this before we

i was i thought the reason you were doing that was because you saw this was coming i thought it was the mona

of ways to lose it

i just think that's funny

but yeah you're right you're right you're right though yeah absolutely and or or you could buy all the things like me but you will lose money you will absolutely

you'll absolutely lose money this was from jeoff x y z yes this is not a test yes this is for low agency users yes i do have the private key yes when kevin m effort returns he will have an allocation waiting for him so this was the launch of monad dickbutt and it's pretty it just was funny it's just funny because there's a dickbutt on every chain and that's just the way the way it rolls and we are not serious people so there you go moving on to a few builder things another quick update on ridercoins we discovered an issue on friday this is from colin from paragraph that prevented the market cap of early writer coins from increasing beyond 10 k we fixed this for a v c and all newly created coins on friday and we've right now gone ahead and helped the other affected riders relaunch their coins with the proper liquidity per amps anyone who is holding an affected rider coin has received a proportionate allocation for the new coin reward recipients also need to reclaim rewards for both you can claim from paragraph.com/claim or on the writer's claim page sorry for the very sorry for the inconvenience here so if you go to this frame on colin's on that colin had shared you'll be able to claim reclaim their new ones including the gm farcaster one because that was one of the ones that was fixed which you know i'm sorry we weren't able to to figure that out sooner but we didn't have enough

was a problem anyone check to

oh that would be great can somebody go check that

maybe that's the problem maybe that's the issue that's funny this was cool to see so this is from jc4p okay here's a prototype of a wingman so this goes back he shared a prototype about a way to optimize your casts and he was building something he launched a token called wingman and then here's the actual thing you need 10,000,000 of the token to access right now it just rates your last 40 casts on its scoring system later today you'll be able to compose a cast and it'll provide feedback so it gives you like it scores your cast and kinda gives you an idea of how engaged how much engagement you get from that oh i don't think i'm logged in i don't think i'm logged in but it gives you an idea of what your what your casts are etcetera etcetera and it's pretty cool so go check that out from our friend jc4p and of course i bought some wingman because i wanted access and also just to support him because it was him

he's f a d y o r

and great builder

and that's why i bought like at first when as soon as i saw he dropped something i'm like of course i'm gonna support that because he's such a good builder and then i like that he you know

good for you like that's a great way to do this because i think there's a you know a miss like lot of people don't realize that there's a lot of

cost involved to running mini apps like there is cost involved it's not free so you know that's why i look at it is if you're gonna provide something to me like i wanna support it so mhmm

yeah yeah i was fine with that

mhmm it's a fair deal and it's a good use case for clankers

it does and the this is what the token would do give you access i think giving access is one of the best use cases of tokens and nfts mhmm this from sahil and this is long so i'm just gonna give a quick overview of this every clanker coin should do this last last week few clankers launched believer leaderboards on cura to identify and reward their token communities in one week 2,000 plus f i p two token casts five x growth for region as an example 400 plus users earned for trading and casting more volume and attention $2,500 in rewards from for clanker creators so just another way to use your token in a way that drives attention to it using cura so if you wanna learn more go check out cura and you'll see that now they're doing something kinda smart where once you launch a token there's a message that'll pop up on that thread it's automated that's that tells you about cura and how you can use the token there so very cool so for those with communities check it out this from our friends at mintedmerch mintedmerch t shirt design competition is live unleash your creativity and design the next hit tee on farcaster and i've seen a few shared that look pretty cool so it's going through now through december 7 anything farcaster vibes quote cast this cast with your design and make sure you tag mintedmerch so go check that out excited to see what people come up with i saw one from brett draws stuff i should have grabbed it that was really cute it said sufficiently decentralized in like a gradient purple and it was really i'm like i want that and we i don't know if they're gonna do i would love for them to do a vote on this it would be fun for those who are holding mintedmerch token would be another good use case there you go this from tim and again i'm not gonna read this whole thing because it's really long but go give it a read from tldr i know there's too many things i told you there was lots of things a quick update on bracky building on farcaster has given our team a priceless gift the gift of genuine conviction that we have a product which high quality users actually enjoy come back to and like telling their friends about we are now working on distributing their product into new social spaces everything we worked on for a year has been consciously structured so that bracky could help us grow by being able to live on in any social feed that's been the vision so it continues on it continues on to talk about why the social feed is important which i think is a really good discussion and talking about how they're expanding to twitter and then they're gonna expand to other locations so go check that out for those who are interested in brockie and they're i like they've been building slowly and intentionally and it's been a very smart move the way in which they've been moving so we appreciate you guys this is really cool and i'm not gonna read this whole thing but this i thought was interesting and unrelated to farcaster directly this is from pwndao it's happening the first pure defi mortgage is live the time to build non speculative defi and expand its real world utility is now check out the first five year fixed rate on chain mortgage powered by pwndao protocol aave pools and ether fi so bordeaux hackerspace first ever pure defi mortgage i think this is just really interesting so that's why i pulled this one mhmm to me this has always been a really great use case that we just haven't seen come into reality yet and this is just a really cool thing where they're trying to fund a hacker space so great use case very exciting love it this we've had a couple interesting things which i forgot to share this last week and i saw it again i went oh that's alright we need to share this now so this is from v i'm excited to share what i've been snacking on for the last three months my wife how do you pronounce that name shilpa shilpa shilpa has been working on healthy chocolates for kids and i can confirm they're great for adults too so this is this is the cocoa melts and i did not can make connect the dots by the way that this was varun's wife so very cool to see this and i went to order and then i realized it's only available in california good so yeah you can't order it yet but if you're in california go check it out it's kinda cool and julia speaking of spouses at julia was on cheeky pint talking nuclear so that is dan's wife so that was fun to see this from aneri next week the base app team is in new york for an irl surge week if you're a builder who wants to jam with the team all week get hands on feedback on your mini app reach out we've made some incredible hires by doing these in the past if you're a creator who wants to meet the creator team join for creator coffee chats get set up with your creator coin and earning on base app reach out to us as well this is for next week in nyc only for everyone else we have plenty of ongoing programs for builders and creators around the world always running on base so check that out if you're in new york there's also next week is art basel i like booked a hotel and everything and i'm like i might even cancel because i don't know what's going on i've seen nothing i keep checking and i've seen like bits and pieces that like there's some kind of base event with boys club happening on the third there's something going with pudgy penguins on the fourth but like nothing solid and i think everyone was too distracted by devconnect that none of that has been pushed out yet so i'm like what

i mean yeah i mean that's been the case for a couple years so like that's not surprising that it's not as much going on but i'm like i've literally seen nothing so it's it's a little little weird so i don't know if like what's happening but i might be at our basel next week and i might not

cancel if nothing's going on no bagel bronzer i don't maybe if i end up going i might throw something together but i'm kind of gonna evaluate over the next couple days and see if anybody actually gives any solid ideas of what's happening and then finally it's thanksgiving folks so we'll be off on friday because we just will because we both have kids at home and family stuff going on so this is the only show this week we'll be back on monday i did like your dry brine versus wet brine for your thanksgiving turkey prep dry crushed it crushed

yeah yeah there's some there's some people there's some people yeah it had a pretty good pool and i guess dan dan agrees to the dry dry brining there and it was funny you're doing this and turkey as zinger said

like so there you go sprinkle some salt sprinkle some salt on some meat

so cool to see and then lastly from codon or codon codon

your family for thanksgiving and it's fortune a cookie saying avoid compulsively making things worse

alright anything else adrienne

think that's it i think that's it alright folks it's been a pleasure we'll be back on monday do you have a guest on monday i don't think so i don't think so no so we'll get caught up we'll see how everybody's doing post post holidays we'll see how the markets are looking because i don't know i'm hopeful for one last rally and i'm thinking it's post thanksgiving so maybe next week maybe not we'll see but i think it's our last shot before the year ends i think we get a fed i think the fed does their thing too next week or something so alright everybody have a lovely holiday for those who celebrate for those who are in the other areas of the world just you know have a nice thursday we'll we'll see you next monday and with that everybody bye bye

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