Transcript: Are We Sufficiently Decentralized Yet?: GM Farcaster ep315

NounishProf, adrienne · GM Farcaster

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we do a lot

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we'll answer the question

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aj's question when show oh now now show

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now show so we we we are we are here she am yeah we were just saying like we're a little off kilter because i don't know you come back from a holiday and everything just feels off and i've had like a cup just a couple of weird things that have happened this morning with like my phone doing weird things and i don't know i hit something and all of a sudden it was in dark mode and i'm like i did not turn that on why are you in dark mode anyway it's gonna we're gonna have fun though we're gonna have fun today we've got a bunch of stuff to talk about there's been some really good discussions on the timeline it's also starting to look a little bit like christmas so we've got you know it is december 1 i don't know how that happened but it did so here we are and so we're gonna we're gonna jump into a few things there give you some some previews of some things happening and yeah so i'm excited to jump into it i am retweeting and recasting right now so if you are on either twitter or farcaster please recast retweet tell people that you're watching if you're watching in the mini app share it and let's get into it so we'll be back on the other side of this forty seconds

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welcome to gm farcaster bringing you everything from breaking news to spicy memes to the deep lore shaping this vibrant digital community more than just a show gm farcaster is your digital third space where the community connects the stories unfold and the culture thrives whether you're a daily caster or just dropping by we've got the latest buzz to keep you plugged in so grab your coffee and let's dive in with your hosts nanesh prath and adrianne for another episode of gm farcaster

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g m a farcaster it is monday december 1 and you are here with nanesh prop and adrian for twenty nine minutes ish of farcaster news to start your day i'm gonna say ish but i mean i think it'll be i don't know we'll see i make no promises adrienne how was your long holiday weekend and your chris and your thanksgiving and how did all your how'd your turkey turn out you were doing

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a lot

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of cooking

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it was so good i maxed martha stewart ed last week

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and full on yes full on

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and everything was everything was fantastic spent tons of family time the food came out really good i introduced a bunch of like new recipes to like a very traditional family like family does not like new things they like tradition i snuck in some new things and everything went really well

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how'd they go over how'd the new things go over early okay good yeah good how many people do you have for dinner 16 that's pretty big okay yeah me and my son went to a restaurant so it was nice to meet you how was yours clean up it was fantastic we just went to a restaurant it was great which is the way i like it i don't wanna cook clean none of that none of that so i do have i do have a couple quick things to unbox and i was gonna do a separate stream but i think i'm just gonna do them right here because i see a couple people in the audience who might appreciate this so i got this little thing showed up from whoops this is gonna be from minted march so and i forgot i ordered this and i was like oh yeah i think i did order this because

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when we had deployer on i realized i did not have a banker hat so i got my banker hat now

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fix that

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mented merch go away

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store all your hats

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honestly like i hold on

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actually i won't ask you

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let me see if i can do let me see if i can do this let me see if i can actually just flip the camera real quick will it show oh it doesn't show i have this pile literally have this pile of hats just sitting right next to where my setup is

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i am getting very close to like a one in one out rule

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yeah it's getting a little bit much but this is like just my crypto hats like things i might wanna wear on camera i have mhmm probably a 100 more that are in my closet that are non non crypto or things i don't like i'm not just gonna throw on like that are different 90 i wear hats a lot though like i pretty much all the time like i'm rarely not gonna

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in a sunny state

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i live in a hat you know i wear a hat i wear baseball hats all the time my usual go to is this one i wear this one a lot i wear my cryptodes one a lot like those two are my usuals and i also have one that has just a little flamingo on it that i wear a lot so yeah wear a lot of hats oh i see hold on let me see if i if i have it that handy i was looking for my crypto sapiens one because i see i see our our friend there saying hats are my happy place i know it's over in this pile somewhere but i i can't i can't quite get a hand a hand on it right at this minute but it's somewhere in that pile is my on chain creator hat which is fantastic but it's kind of it's kind of hiding down there somewhere i have one more thing one more thing i have to open i don't know if is mika mika in our audience yet might be so this was from i got a gifter gifter whoops it's really not doing well here on camera but gifter a gifter box and i'm very excited there we go now you can see it this is a namaste joe i hadn't opened it yet so i hadn't seen which one and oh yay look at this little little headstand one headstand handstand

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that's called a crow that's called a crow pose prop

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okay thank you i forgot forgot haven't done haven't done one of those in a very long time once upon a time i used to do a lot of yoga and i almost became an instructor this is twenty something years ago so it's been been

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a while so unflappable

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not exactly but yeah very flexed person i didn't hear her

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talking about you yeah

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so there was a little part if you guys didn't if you guys listen to the dev connect that adrian did with will lamone and debbie and you really should it was great but there was a little bit in the beginning that we edited out that they were talking about me oh good thing

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we didn't even know i didn't know they had started recording so it was just us like you know offstage just chatting and

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i was because you said oh you said i'm just the sidekick or something like that and that's how you got into it you're like i don't usually

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do this i'm the sidekick brock does the show but i will take good care of people today and yeah and will said you are unflappable he wasn't sure if that was the right word that he was trying to come up with

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yeah i kinda i get i get where he was going i can roll with it i'm and i i like what he said are you does has she ever done improv and i was like no i haven't i get it yeah

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the i i think the way you talk about things that happen on farcaster because there's like you know it's like there's good things not everything is rosy there's bad things there's controversy people have opinions and you have a good way of kind of cuff covering things and not getting too emotionally attached i think okay or just i

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get them advance

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i guess

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i guess i most of my emotional attachment happens off screen yeah

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god do it

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you hear it after show after show is different

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it's it's emotional regulation we respect

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yeah i love that we love adrian yes we do and you got to see

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listen i joke about that

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did you see him did you see him

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literally in a passing we gave each other hugs said hello and that we didn't really hang out but

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yeah no joking about that i mean she's not really a sidekick believe me you have no idea she she does so much it's crazy just because i do a lot of the talking doesn't mean anything all right and my mother does not appreciate it that i don't let you talk enough all right let's jump in because we have some funny things to start with this was unreal so if you missed this yesterday this is not forecast related but it kind of is because there's a lot of chat about it on far caster brian johnson tripped on mushrooms and live streamed it and grimes was djing for a bit like just insanity but when i jumped on because i forgot about it and then i was like oh i gotta go see what's going on there was over 600,000 people watching on twitter like a craziness there was 2,600 on youtube and like six forty on instagram which i thought was just funny like the difference in like you can tell where his audience is audience is clearly on twitter yeah so i just thought that was interesting but it was so crazy to see that and then i loved this from matthew me and who with grimes ryan streaming so you had mentioned in a comment

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people are crazy so in this let me see if i can find it i think it was right in here wasn't it where did you say this i can't remember where it was oh here it is yeah should we take mushrooms should he make take mushrooms on stream and everyone had thoughts for chia barcaster to be clear we did not we are not the one who will not we are not trippy just letting you know but it was really funny the the responses were hilarious ten ten would watch cassie's just remember some basic rules fire is hot cars are real if you think you can fly start from the ground up good good tips great tips great rules yeah and then the dude can i come and trip sit you guys if you're really gonna be taking mushrooms willing to dox myself on stream for this which i thought was hilarious just this is never gonna happen however we did have that discussion with the dude that for episode four twenty we'll like to invite some guests to feel free to join us on stream they can be tripping and and you know stoned and whatever and we will be happy

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to be here for that when

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happy to sit them

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that needs to be an in person

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i think that would be hilarious

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we'll have to

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yeah and let's get like moon poppy to dj or something farcon rome

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can we get to 04:20 to and time it to farcon rome

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we cannot i've done the math it's not gonna happen

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all right nevermind

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it's like sometime next year this time like it's around the it's sometime in the fall if i've done the math correctly so yeah i don't think so it should be on april 20

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time mumbai we're that would

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be ideal it's impossible at this point i don't think we could do it we need another 100 and something 105 episodes from now to it would be it would be a big push so probably not but yeah we'll we'll figure it out we'll figure it out but that'll be we'll we'll make sure we do something with that except don't expect us to be the ones who are tripping that's never happened alright let's move into some farcaster news twenty nine seconds of farcaster what did you miss this weekend from our friend brad q important reflections from v are we sufficiently decentralized yet we're gonna talk about that in just a minute have you noticed that t y s m and its community are on the rise nomadic frame is number one on the new quotient leaderboard and the mini app is on the rise i don't know a ton but it's becoming popular with what i call the middle class of forecaster great f seers that aren't the big o g accounts of notice hank moody milliboo or strong community members i've seen that popping around as well it's been twelve years since the ethereum white paper dtso shared the milestone and white paper thank you vitalik and friends for that we appreciate you seems worth noting that humpty who's in the audience there and now asha are working on building the crypto sapiens in a home for on chain creators so cool to see what's happening with expansion there and it was a little bit of a quiet weekend so we do have a few things to chat about this from b thanks for all the responses here's the best list i have so far this is a he had put a call out how many full farcaster clients have been built so far and then he said off the top of my head enlisted and he did a little adjustment to this active recaster hero cast firefly yep dgen base zapper uno cura toon caster i don't even know what toon caster is never heard of that one inactive supercast nook jam discov wildcard and butterfly butterfly was that one that was very like image focused if i remember correctly so this is what are the full clients and we're actually going to have seb from zapper on wednesday so and we do need to get jacek back as well to talk about the dj now so yeah more expansion and i know uno's been doing a lot of work i've been seeing them ramping up a lot so we should see some new stuff from them soon or maybe they'll go broader cure has been doing a ton of work in way that they're approaching things so lots of cool stuff happening with the other clients so this was a fantastic post from vee are we sufficiently decentralized yet which i immediately tagged you in as soon as i saw it i was like adrian it's calling you so i'm gonna read a little bit of it about four years ago i wrote that a social network can claim to be sufficiently decentralized only if two cast two users can find each other and communicate even if the rest of the network wants to prevent it a lot has changed since and i thought it would be useful to reflect on how much progress we've made against this goal and what's still left to be done so this is incredibly long and thorough and very interesting but it's very long so luckily we have naynar who did a fabulous summary of this so this swim said to naynar can you do a tldr summary on this thread and it did and here's here's the pldr vcheck's whether farcaster is sufficiently decentralized and lays out three checkpoints permissionless design identities on chain charge storage to curb spam strong data consensus snapchains proof of authority is a centralizing trade off they plan to dilute by expanding validators and light governance two client diversity farcaster client fell from 99% to 70% goal is no majority client to avoid protocol capture we're investing in the flagship app to keep play fair while diversity grows three scale getting millions of users is the hard part many apps helped ai will be hard to beat by startups crypto speculation is the most likely wedge and a lot if you dive in here really a great thorough discussion of this topic that led to others with some really interesting combos this is from fry pan again very long but i appreciate we finally get a reflection on these topics after a long time v i consider myself part of this and i care for it my pov for what is worth below i hate how farcaster so i have clear meaning these days and i can't articulate what i feel part of so i'll go with it interesting and then went into a discussion of decentralization etcetera and what that means and on identity and there's a lot of really good discussion here but again very long

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so adrienne your thoughts on i was i was dying to talk to you about this because i know this this was something you had just commented on like just that we just talked about it last week so what are your thoughts on what v had to say what jumped out at you what should people like make sure they don't miss

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i'm so happy i was so happy to see these thread and because i've said before i keep going back to this blog post you wrote what did he say four years ago yeah and kind of using it and he doesn't really talk so much about what decentralization means or what their vision is a few times i've you know and i'll keep pointing back to like well if this is the definition because people get upset at merkel

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right

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for doing things and i'm like but they never promised they would do a certain way right so i kinda point back on like unless they break this promise that was in vi's first blog post i can't really get mad at them because this is you know in terms of the in terms of like two users wanting to communicate if the rest of the network wants to prevent it like that's all the the promise was at some point i did ask dan i was like is this still your definition you know like i because i point back because i'm pretty quiet about it so i was just one happy to see him writing about it yeah yeah

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and so thoughtfully

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is import yeah i think transparency is important it was good to see everyone else kinda follow on i mean this is like the beauty of social media i guess is like you can publicly share thoughts people can respond i vaipan's been a a listen he's been building an active and forecaster for a long time but he's also been a critic vocally and and respectfully and i really respect his point of views what i wish though is like i i wish i could have a panel discussion like i want live discussions with people like i mean this is the

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it's a good idea

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yeah because i wanna pull certain threads and react faster i mean like i could do it on the feed but there there were things that vee said i wish i could hear more and then i also wish vee would engage a little more and have more conversation because it was a little broadcasty

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yeah it it feels like there was conversation but it wasn't necessarily there was a couple times where we responded to things but some most a lot of the conversation was happening between other people it felt like so yeah or like on other casts like fry pan's so yeah i agree i agree

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and i wanna talk to fry pan a little bit more because he's like well this isn't we haven't reached it right so i wanna talk to the people who who say we have not reached it because at at devconnect i sat with horse facts and i said look my i always go back to saying can i if i had no access to farcast or no access to baseapp let's say every single client out there kicked me off yeah and i do not have access to nanar like nothing every web client is not letting me on farcaster but i have my fit i have my seed phrase because i have my wallet which is where my identity is is attached how do i post a message to farcaster and again let's say two users it doesn't need to be shown on any clients but let's say i wanna communicate from fid5818 to fid46 something

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4167

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4167 how would i actually do that because that's all the promise was like to me the promise was you own your identity so no one can take your identity away unless they steal your seed phrase right so you own your identity and you own and you can communicate to one other person and that's it so it's like so so i so worst facts did show me how to do that in you know in typescript or whatever like if i have a an ide if i can write code if i have internet connection i know how to write code and i have my seed phrase can i do this and he showed me how and i was like okay then i'm satisfied i can do it

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that it can happen yeah

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yeah like even if every client wants not to that i could still post to it so when people say well it's not decentralized enough there's only two people control it like what does that mean and it made me think a little bit about like just the stages of decentralization so something can kind of look decentralized but how resistant is it so right like people talk about ethereum as being kind of max decentralized there's other blockchains that are decentralized but not as much and what that means and i i don't know the answer and my my hunch is that is it because then people can fork snapchaine and then kick me off or or do something i i'm not totally sure what that means to say it's not i don't know if that mhmm makes it no

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i i do yeah

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because it feels decentralized enough to me and and i and i and i think his point too of saying we shouldn't say decentralized we should talk about censorship resistance

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yeah yeah and i think that's different

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so yeah i think there's just a lot of heavy like big discussion it's very i don't know if esoteric is the right word but like a lot of this sometimes is is just a little bit heavy or heady so i think when you said a panel discussion i think that would be amazing mhmm like i think that if we could get the interested like that would be cool vripen other people who have you know let's hey vitalik wanna come over here but other people who maybe have some thoughts on it honestly somebody like shaw makes magic would be interesting because of his experience with twitter and that kind of you know real life actual thing so i think there's some yeah i think it could be a really a really fascinating discussion cassie would be great to chat about this and quilibrium and what's going on there and so i think there's a few other people somebody mentioned xmtp maybe they implemented xmtp like maybe shane so anyway i think that's a really good idea see if we can maybe make that happen it'd be cool

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oh i'm sorry

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i don't know vy talk to you talk to you vy we need you you're you're the key you're the key you know

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and to be fair right because it's interesting like because there's nuance and even from the original blog post it wasn't hey forecaster is gonna be max decentralized it was always sufficiently

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always sufficiently

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what does that mean and

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how do you define that total right yeah yeah so what

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does that mean and how do you define it and why it matters and and i have to give them credit because they talk about product led protocol

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yeah i mean this is interesting from crip yeah nothing is truly decentralized unless it's happening off on chain and off aws and we've seen this every time cloudflare goes down or there's some big outage in aws that so many crypto things go down and that's just i think where we are right now

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right and when you say on chain what does that mean which chain

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right

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is every chain truly decentralized right so it's like yeah i don't know i

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don't know

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the answer

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great points great points and then all the discussion about trustlessness and privacy that's happening i think there's a lot of that that's sort of all wrapped up together that could make for very interesting discussions so yeah alright something and

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then the concept of product led protocol which is like you don't over index on the protocol part and keeping things open for max standardization when you haven't figured out product market fit so it's like you kind of do product and and and build the protocol as you go and that has upset certain people who are kind of protocol first minded

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yeah thing

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and that was the whole thing with the warpcast versus farcaster and should we have a separate name for the client versus protocol and so all of that is true you know like all great points but also there's some practicality involved where yeah you know that just didn't work

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did you pull the casps that talk about open sourcing

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oh i

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didn't because okay because that was also

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yeah

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and just kind of about kind of like building trust within community and kind of promises made promises not yet fulfilled and and reasons why but because the other the reason i bring up the product led protocol is like when i'm like why isn't vee getting on our panel and why isn't he coming on our show and talking about this it's because he's also the cto of trying to build a you know a always on highly robust usable consumer app so my guess is like they're busy doing engineering things and not as busy wanting to kind of talk but

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also dan's the app or v tends to be the yeah mhmm busy busy in the code you know so heads down and that tends to be the situation but i'd love to for for this particular topic i think it would be great to have his perspective because he's been the one sort of more writing about that aspect of it and get more into the technical weeds yeah

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mercenaries not for them they don't care

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yeah but they don't care they don't

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there's you know

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well i thought you know it was interesting when you were talking about the dev connect booth last week when we talked about we kind of recapped your experience at dev connect on friday show a friday show or monday show we didn't have a show friday what am i talking about but you mentioned that that was the location where the decentralized aspects actually mattered like you finally had the audience that actually cared about that part of it where like you could talk about that and it was like oh that's you know that is actually interesting that is actually a feature that's important to me but beyond that particular audience you probably it's it's harder to sell and that's why this is when you get to number three in that discussion of we need to bring millions in that's where it starts to not matter as much right because you if you don't have the people it doesn't matter how decentralized you are so i don't know another part of that discussion or part of what we had been talking about also was is sort of part of this whole thing was in general about the history of farcaster and like where we've come from and this and that and they were talk he was talking

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about frames aka mini apps and how that helped explode growth and people kind of pushed back and said woah woah woah what about dgen so v had said yassa and dgen definitely played a big part the broader point is that even dgen had a path dependency on a bunch of unique crypto social features on farcaster channels verified wallets etcetera so there yassa had responded back kind of gave a little bit of degen's story which is interesting tldr was degen's breakout is also farcasters the community energy and this open social graph made the token the major token inevitable if not dgen then something else early dgen airdrops mattered because they sparked virality and behavior loops and dgen app aims to re tap into that loop in a different way so and then talking about building the farcaster client so i think that to me is a little bit related to sort of all the discussions we've been having recently about farcaster like where do we go from here how do we tap in how do you bring more people in and you know we can talk about frames was a big moment for the devs it wasn't necessarily you like my background yeah yeah there's frames friday yeah frames friday hackathon it was huge for the devs that is a very small group of people it was not it was not the reason most of the users who came in in that moment came in they they didn't know any you know there were yes were there some devs who maybe got excited and came in because of that i'm sure there were but that wasn't it it was deejohn it was the speculative you know as much as we don't wanna admit it and as much as we don't wanna say that the focus on tokens and and wallet and trading is what may bring in those millions like we know that it probably is because speculation gets people's attention so

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and if you remember back then like how many people were hating on the people coming from d for dgen

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hating hating mhmm

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it was like get out of our app we don't want we don't want you

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yeah there was a lot of pushback yeah

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some some rightful right some yeah some warranted and then also how many other people did it bring

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who were great community members and who were still here who came for degen stuck around hi yes to crypto like it's so many like i so many so many and there have been incredible so glad they're here so we can't you know don't can't hate on that at all like it's a huge it was a huge moment the two things collided at the same time but clearly the bulk of the users that came in came in because of degen because it got their attention of like wait what these people made just how much money from an airdrop you know like that got people's attention and then the tip is all tech nerfing it was a lot it was significant yeah yeah i did not catch out at the right time and we don't even wanna talk about that it's a lot of i've got a lot of i've got a lot of regrets today infinite regret yeah so anyway oh you you jumped right before degen drop oh cool i didn't do that that's great alright

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let's i think i just get i'm gonna my my last cranky monday thing is i'm just gonna say i get really annoyed at anyone trying to pinpoint like the one thing that made farcastr grow or didn't grow or if only like and it's such lazy thinking like you're in a you're you're in a complex system and everybody tries to kinda bring this this one angle and one that's not how systems work and two there's no way to prove it and three you're lazy and wrong

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there you go humpty just said whatever you got the pudgy airdrop prop yeah but i had to buy a whole bunch of little pudgies to get it and it was nowhere near the dgen airdrop not even close by the way in terms of value so there you go alright moving on got a few more got a bunch more things to talk about i knew this wasn't gonna be short that was probably our biggest our biggest chat but this was funny from horse facts by year three on farcaster you should have 37 followers 21 eth 90,000 coins in your warblet one feature request you monomaniacally believe will fix everything

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trending feed

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trending feed

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trending feed but actually

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actually i have that one so i was like yep this this tracks except for that 21 eth i don't know where that is and the but definitely have the 90,000 coins in my war blood like it's insane but yes that one feature request i asked everyone and what do you think my feature request is and it a couple of people were wrong but most people who watch the show knew trending trending feed it's the one

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by the way bea had a nice little thanks thanksgiving shout out happy thanksgiving great for all the people who have chosen to spend their time casting and building here over the last five years barcaster wouldn't be what it is without you and by and then i i did share our i don't know if you saw this one this is the one i did that's me u v and dwr do you see yourself

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i do and i didn't realize you added me like you tagged me i thought somehow the algo just like remembered and i was like oh yes i have i am imprinted on your forehead

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isn't that wild creepy and i it's yeah and your and the eyes too if you look at the eyes oh they're fox eyes yeah they're fox they're your yeah they're the fox eyes so that was really funny but i did love this try emerge one it was really fun the balloons were very fun macy's parade balloon try emerge so very cool but yeah i thought that was so funny i was like wait i zoomed in i'm like wait i'm like where's adrian and then i zoom in i'm like animal what happened here animal that was wild speaking of i love this from cassie make farcaster social again the upside down very creative arch love that this from shara purple pills are a controlled substance side effects include wow wow ask your dev if purple is right for you which i just thought was funny this is a controlled substance dispensing to normies may result in lengthy conversations i believe this is her warning pre thanksgiving do not operate web two platforms while wearing you may feel the urge to leave if someone asks what's that you are now legally required to explain farcaster so be careful who you use that who you use it around this from wake years from now looking back farcaster may end up a footnote in the history of the product that spawned here but found success outside the crash maybe it's clanker maybe one of clanker's children like brackie or sky castle or the hab haberdashery if they expand their respective missions farcaster was a great idea its legacy could be its children that's what i'm looking for at least and i thought that was an interesting framing mhmm i still think the most valuable aspect of farcaster is that it is essentially an incubator and i think that that's the thing that i've been a little concerned might get lost in in sort of this new meta meta is probably not the right word but i'm gonna just use that for shorthand alright few more things that i have to just pull up right now

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couple more quick things from the builders and from base let me see if i can get this actually working

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ah too many links well let me pull this up while i'm waiting to get those other ones up art basel is this week which i feel like it came out of nowhere but also i feel like nobody's really doing anything except for a few i've seen some artists that are actually going to be at the actual art basel like beeple and tyler hobbs and which is very cool there's a whole zero zero ten part of art basel this next weekend and that's really cool to see that like nfts are gonna get you know a little bit of respect digital art a little bit more respect at the official art basel but there's usually a ton of events going on and there's not a lot going on so i'm gonna be there thursday wednesday thursday we're gonna try and do a little happy hour i think on thursday before the pudgy penguins event which is at six so if you're going to be in miami this week if you're gonna be around on thursday respond on this cast from mike good so we can make sure we loop you in on the plans as soon as we have some it's weird because the past two years i have had major events to like plan and pull off and this year i don't and it's kind of nice and but also i'm like where is everybody so i know boys club is doing something with stellar they're doing a brunch on thursday which i don't know if i've even been approved for yet i should probably reach out to somebody and then there's like a few other small things going on but i have not seen much so i do penguins on thursday night so i'll be there the base team on the other hand is in new york so i was looking to see if they or the base app team i should say because i was thinking that they were going to do something i heard they were going to do something with boys club i thought it at art basel but i haven't seen anything about that so i don't know if that got pivoted because of this or if there's still something happening but if anybody knows let me know i'm looking quick in the chat if anybody knows what's going on and so the base team is in new york they are doing a surge week this is something that they do on occasion waiting for this link to come up that where they'll go for a week and just really do an in person big push because they're trying to you know progress to a certain point make sure things are you know get the next upgrade in etcetera and i think there's this december 17 event or something that's happening with coinbase so i think that's what's driving this particular surge and maybe that shifted what they're doing in our basel so this is from aniri the base team is on recharge for the next week oh this was sorry this was before but this i think she shared this also because now they're going to be busy this week since we'll be out of compile 50 plus most common questions you can check this out so i think she reposted this because they were going to be away this week but if you need other info it's right there and i thought that was cool as well as jesse's jesse x b t can be helpful as well if you can't reach them because they're in surge mode and they're in new york and jesse also had posted a video which nothing is loading for me right now hello posted a video i'm not gonna share it but go give it a watch it's pretty quick where he's talking about what they're doing in new york and all the things they're working on to make the app even better and bring in more folks so looking forward to seeing what comes from that and there i i think based on that video and based on what they're doing this week and based on this december 17 timeline there was speculation that it was a base token it's not like stop it's not it's definitely not he said next year it's not what i think it is though is it might be the base app being opening to open to public if they get it where they want it to be so that's what i think is happening there so that's my guess of what the seventeenth is along with a bunch of other things that are unrelated to the base app but related to coinbase so that's what i think alright moving on this was funny me explaining morphett mania to my family on thanksgiving i would have loved to fly on the wall for that

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oh where

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do you even start

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where do you even start

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and then i went on a podcast yes there's a morning show where they just talk about things like this yes there is and then i mean just utter insanity and i think there's something maybe it's coming this week there was something teased last week with burt wurst i'm still waiting i'm still waiting i think there's pets coming pets for the warplets then there was this

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can we shout out oxbit by the way i can't text her back because we're i don't know if you were here a few minutes ago we were just talking about baseapp and nyc this week and i'm gonna gonna dm you i wanna try to meet up

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you should do that they're gonna coordinate live on screen

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what what are you doing tornado

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what are you doing thursday that's funny i forgot yeah you can go in and see everybody that's not fair yeah we were just talking about y'all we know you're working hard for us

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okay it's happening

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it's happening okay good glad you got that figured out

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good because then ari and dilsack left me then ari and dilsack left me on red so my girl my girl accident's gotta come through

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that's so funny alright well everyone gets to see adrianne this week who's at the who's at the base base surge this from moon poppy final thanksgiving moon ad app update it claimed links to purple ray and an mbr thankful for demo thank you thank you thankful for them shows claim wallet where things are sent i pulled addresses from a list in dune and fids and ver barcaster verified wallets if things got sent to tba and you can't do anything with your tokens that is your punishment for using tba i never i forgot that part next up redacted so this was related to moon poppy released moon a clanker but this has led to some interesting things oh this isn't coming up for me including this fun little game from horse facts called moonlander which might have been one of the most frustrating games i have played until he started to say i'm also gonna give away a prize to people who crash and who have the best crashes and i'm like now i'm in because i could not land this stupid thing to save my life so horsebacks went in and made a moonlander game you had to i think you had to be holding moon or you got some bonus if you're holding moon something something like that so oh i know what it was if you had a certain amount of moon it added your warplet inside this so that was really cute and he just did a bunch of different things to update this i just thought it was fun to see like these little plays on on the moon on the moon token and doing these little fun things and i think moon poppy is working on something else as well that goes along with it i didn't claim my money yet

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you're gonna be shocked

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i'm so surprised you can use the purple rain app and it's very easy to claim oh one button thank you it's very easy it should be in there

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is that mvr's app

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yeah yes or mjc

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i get i get that no

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it's mvr i think that was mvr confused sometimes

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you just go to just search purple rain in the in the app the app explorer i think it's right it's probably on the top trending feed anyway the top 25 so you'll find it there but go in there claim and i would say that to everybody if you you might have this airdrop waiting for you go check it out it's been going up

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oh he's on and it's on monad

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it's on monad yes it's on monad fun yeah so this is a monad yeah monad

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great

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exactly so this is probably one of the top clankers right now on monad it's been popping it's really fun go check it out this from flannel donut hey clanker it's time for stop mo thank you clanker it was so much fun bringing him to life so this is a stop motion clanker little animation that is just adorable and i loved it so really fun just loved seeing this it was very cute and dollar sign stop mom there you go awesome so well done flannel donut what are you doing over there why did you change your background

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because i saw someone comment maybe it's a base token to reward hub runners

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that's awesome

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needed

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i knew there had to be

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a reason

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i have yeah i knew there had to be a reason

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i'll change it i'll change it back

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oh no you can leave it i just wasn't i was confused i'm like i think i've missed something this from atown speaking of monad i sold my monad airdrop and did two things with it bought a noun that's why i'm dressed like this today bought more emerge check back with me in three months to see if i made a good decision and then oops i thought i had his other post about or is it here it is about the noun so this is the noun i love ethereum this is from maytown there's nothing more eth than nouns tonight i officially became a nouns holder and won my first auction special shout out to humpty.eth for introducing me to the culture keep an eye out we'll be working on some cool nouns try emerge stuff could not be happier this is very exciting so congratulations a town welcome to the cults you know occasionally we get tattoos we have tattoo artists at various events things like that by the way nouns are have never been more on sale so yeah price is very cheap right now eth is very cheap right now have at it great time to buy a noun so this is fun to see and then we have some fun christmas stuff happening already because it's december have you checked your email have you seen this yet from cassie okay cassie famously loves christmas like this is her favorite holiday goes all out this is a really cool little app adrianne i don't know why the kids are so into this aesthetic of like mid nineties maybe early two thousands going on but they are this is like the third app recently that i've seen that has something along these lines and this one is it's very retro this is really fun it definitely looks better on mobile so boot xmas it's super cute and we have this little thing i understand seasons greetings and you have a mail viewer so you go in here's your mail viewer you get a welcome it's very cute it's very cute and then you can like save your name etcetera it'll give you that you reply to this you can actually reply with your full name and preferred nickname and it's really cute so that's all it's doing so far but it's very cute we'll see where she's going with this not sure but it's it's pretty fun so you know in her spare time

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changed and she changed her pfps now i don't recognize her

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changed her pfp this is her her holiday pfp so there we go and then also jesus commented on my cast

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i i was helping my i was helping my mother with putting up her christmas stuff yesterday i will more likely do this in like a week or so and he said putting up my my decorations and i said any comment on this particular manger scene cause i don't know if you noticed but there's a turtle in there right there turtle don't belong there it has to do with my nephew anyway and he said i'd say it's charm but this is closer to how it really happened and i just thought that was really funny so there you go i liked the three wise sith lord a leaping this from shane mack i saw this kinda just last minute and i thought this was interesting new career page is up with a note from me wanted to be clear on all the reasons not to join xmtp and i thought this was very interesting so a note from shane our ceo the greatest mistake i ever made in my career was trying to convince people to join a startup i'm not here to convince you in my early days i oversold i tried to make the journey look easier than it was i tried to convince people that going smaller could feel as stable as microsoft i tried to make ownership sound exciting without fully preparing people for the weight of it the kind of ownership that changes how you show up every single day on one hand it's the most empowering thing you will ever feel on the other hand it's hard really hard as i sit here almost five years in thinking about the next twenty i'm more excited than i've ever been about what we're building and why and the only thing that matters to me now is finding people who deeply and genuinely believe in this mission too i don't want you to work here because you want to work with me i don't want you to work here because you want to try a startup i don't want you to work here because small sounds refreshing after years at a big company and i just thought that was incredibly smart

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yeah

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incredibly smart to do something like that so yeah so

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i'm just going to share

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that but you should definitely look if you're looking for a job you should go look at them because i do think they're doing some cool stuff

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what if you also wanna work with shane and just also wanna try a startup because you're burnt out of big companies is that okay

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if you wanna do those things but also

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yeah it's like no reason

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yeah just know it's gonna be harder than you think this from that alex palmer congrats pungsten make that thing better please design engineer at base previously at family ave and at rainbow so wait is pukson really going to base i was confused by this is he really congratulations that's incredible i wasn't positive if that was a joke or if it was really happening

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he was teasing you saw a few weeks ago he's like oh my god i'm just i'm gonna work on yet another crypto wallet

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it didn't occur to me that that was the wallet

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yes yes

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for some reason i didn't connect those dots i was like that's why i wasn't sure if he was really doing that but very cool so that's fun to see still don't know what he did for farcaster do we know yet he did some project

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oh i mean i know he was doing some design stuff like and i know he was shipping a few things because he accidentally removed the reply button or the cast button do you remember this

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no i knew something happened

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it was the cast button on the mobile app disappeared so all of a sudden i

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remember that because this was gonna

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literally no one could cast so you had to go into the web app or tba or somewhere else to cast and he's like hang on i'm rolling something back sorry guys

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i remember seeing that i don't think i saw when it went away i think i just missed that i just wasn't on at that point or it was on web or something and uh-huh i saw him say something about rolling something back but i never saw what he actually did so that was the part i

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well i don't know if this is he designed the candlestick view of

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oh okay cool cool i love the candlestick view with the tokens yeah i did not know that i was wondering alright cool

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this was this is fun hey g m nine hour i want you to make a quick summary of all the posts from my network related to devconnect let me put this back related to devconnect and buenos aires in the past two weeks and identify people who were there and i may or may not have met but our interests clearly align and then i should reach out to as missed connection very very creative use of danar mhmm so that was very good and you got tagged in this so very cool yeah very

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cool nanar knows what's up

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nanar is becoming more and more incredibly useful so mhmm i'm really appreciating naynar ai i should say and how good it is and sometimes i just use it in the mini app like i don't want you know i don't like i'm asking about trending casts or something like that and sometimes it doesn't it's not great with that but i i still haven't quite got the thing that i think works for that but it's still useful information

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so i'm talking to neymar and team about upgrading warpy

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oh cool very cool

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nothing nothing to share yet but he's been pretty good that warpy

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you think it's gonna get better

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warpy may get better

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alright

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amazing and then one last thing from our friend bert official smell ranking of this season's humankind candles spoiler alert they're all incredible thank you samantha for making my house smell amazing year round i just thought this was so funny to watch him do it he's totally just nope he's just smelling them yeah okay and then he then went through each one i mean hire bert for your brand deals seriously people like he's phenomenal he's so cute he's so cute and the and she and the it was the tongue count by the way it's the tongue count it's a number of times that his tongue oops let me go like that oh nope too big too big the number of times his tongue comes out for each scent was how it was categorized and and checked so there you go so adorable and with that so go go get yourself a humankind candle and thank bert for that all right he's available bert's available for your brand deals please reach out

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alright

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anything else

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did i miss anything

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i think we covered the news

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we covered the news we covered the news and

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for going back to moon poppy's moonad moon token just a reminder that yes you can clank on monad using clankr.clanker.world for more info on that and there are a few out there that are still hanging around but if you have a good idea go do it go clank also i don't know if i should say this i'm gonna do some i guess i will i'm gonna do some adjusting of my clanker

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token my creator coin that was on clanker because retake and nothing against retake but when i launched it it was because of retake and i don't have a lot of control over it or a lot of supply of it so i might i i think i just saw afro chicks did that i think last week where she relaunched hers and then sent it to those so i'm probably gonna do something like that fairly soon and i wanna start using den because it's very cool but i want to play around with it a little bit they do have a token gated option and stuff like that so gonna do some things there with that and start doing just some casual streams

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i play around with vibe market a little bit so i've had a few things that i've been playing around with haven't really had time to fully flush them out yet but i'm gonna try and wrap them up maybe by tomorrow so just thought i'd throw that out there there might be another stream tomorrow it'll be short it'll be just be fun and i now see mika do in in the chat so i did do a little unboxing and thank you thank you mika for my my namaste joe i appreciate it it's very cute alright anything else adrian

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wednesday should we do an morning announcements okay so

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save the date wednesday we have seb who's the founder of zappr coming on so zappr is another farcaster client i think little has little bit more of a trading focus so kind of social trading app they've had an app or i guess they have a web web like a desktop version website i've been on their i've had i've been on their test flight for a while i think they are finally approved for the android app store the apple app store like i think they are launching a new app on wednesday so pretty sure we're getting him on launch day which will be super exciting

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oh i didn't realize it was launch day for that oh cool

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i am

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very cool here it is

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if i if i read the casts correctly it it's launching on wednesday so he'll be here wednesday 9am eastern

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there he is very cool

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thursday after our news segment

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i will say it does have a nice layout for tracking tokens i i do there's there's definite aspects of it that if you are a trader you're probably gonna really appreciate mhmm so yeah very cool

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and it's good for client diversity

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yeah exactly it's just a different way to look at the information i find that and the algos are always different and i do find that's useful to jump around a little bit and see what you're missing because i do find something's missing

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do you do shows between christmas and new year's horsebacks is coming to visit that's exciting

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why yes we do we usually do we actually have done a show on new year's day i don't know if we will this year we'll see yes i don't know what day it's on so but we have done things like that

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new year's new year's is a wednesday thursday yes maybe yeah we it's not a we don't stick to a a strict schedule over the holidays but yeah

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we kind of just see because sometimes she might be traveling i won't i'll just be here but i would be traveling a little bit before the holidays not really during so we'll figure it out we even that's like way ahead you're thinking way ahead bert that is like three to four weeks from now like i i can't i can't even my tree's not up i got nothing done in this house like nothing and yeah i haven't figured out any of that yet so but we will we will

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uncle horace is coming to visit it's very exciting alright

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anything else there horace has never uncle horace has never been a guest on gm farcaster

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he has never been a guest we should have him i with bert maybe you have more fun

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not for lack of inviting him let's just put that out there

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we'd like to have uncle horse on anytime

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yes

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anytime maybe we change that alright bert we get on it yes i think i think i would love to have you on with uncle horace i think that would be fantastic alrighty speaking of dogs he's been very quiet it's just been nice although he's been waking me up very early alright i think that's it thank you all it's been fabulous we will be back wednesday 08:30am eastern for that one seb will be joining us from zappr at 9am eastern so we will see you all then i will then be heading to miami for a couple days so if you are gonna be in miami on thursday and you are hearing this like make a comment on that cast that i showed earlier from mike good and let us know that you are gonna be here because we're going to put together some kind of little happy hour or something and would love to see you i'll recast that cast but look for it from me or from mike goode and we'd love to see you in miami and with that adrienne we're gonna call it have a great day everybody we will see you wednesday and until then bye bye

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thanks for joining us for this episode of gm farcaster and thank you to all our partners and hyper sub supporters bringing this episode to you follow the gm farcaster channel for all the latest updates and add our mini app on farcaster and the base app until next time bye bye