alright we are live adrian has sound we're still back so good we are still back
it was a rough week last week
rough week rough week but hopefully all of our technical issues are gonna be fine today everything's gonna work great
excited because we have
the wyoming decentralized exchange i think i got that right it's wydeorg is gonna be with us aaron from wide and i'm excited to chat with them because they're using clankr and tokens a little differently to support nonprofits so that'll be fun that'll be in about thirty minutes from now we've got lots of news to tackle we've got you know quote unquote national news up top and then or international i should say and then we'll slide into some farcaster news so should be a good one getting excited i got my farcon room background clicking and we're getting that's
why we're two weeks away
getting so close it's crazy i keep thinking it's a week away because i'm leaving next wednesday so it's like right we're getting very close so anyway let's get this party officially started by the way you have frozen i'm hoping it's not a sign and maybe it will oh okay she's back
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gm farcaster it is monday april 20 happy four twenty to those who celebrate and you are here with nautishprop and adrienne for twenty nine minutes of farcaster news to start your day and then we will have erin from wide showing up here to chat about what they're what they're doing with dollar sign eat and they're supporting nonprofits via tokenization so very exciting it's gonna be a fun one it's gonna be a fun one and let's jump right in first up it's also patriot's day so adrienne are you familiar with patriot's day
no
no no
my daughter said to me she's like that her i guess she has friends from boston and they texted her about the long they're like oh let's get together for the long weekend and she's like oh we do we have a it's a holiday do we have off i'm like i don't know what patriot's day is or what they're talking about so
okay well patriot's day as you'll see from this image of the redcoats getting some coffee before heading to lexington common is when two things happen we celebrate the first shots fired at concord in lexington that started off the american revolution as well as the boston marathon is run on every patriots day so it's celebrated on the monday but it was actually april 19 but we celebrated on the monday and they do the marathon today happens also it is opening day at fenway so that's also today and do you know who they always play i've been why nope the yankees it's always opening day with the yankees so there you go happening in boston shout out to all the mass holes who knew all of this before i even said it so there you go and then also i posted this yesterday i won't read it to you because it does require a full on boston accent to get its full effect and i don't want to torture you all today with that but this is the midnight ride of paul revere so are you if you are not familiar go go check that out i did cast it and it will be in the show notes so all the all the things and we are that is two fifty one years ago that this occurred so because we are celebrating two fifty this year and it's also four twenty so this from nyan cat chris over there happy four twenty on this day five years ago i collaborated with snoop dogg snoop dogg to release a limited hazy nyan cat with a special one one nyan dog for this day many don't remember but eth gas prices spiked to $4.20 that day the special one one sold for 14 eth wow that's crazy absolutely wild so there you go happy fourth yeah good times back in the day back in the back in the years of of the early nft years on a
percentage basis $4.20 for gas isn't even that much
not for for not not for gasoline
gas yes
are you drop if you're dropping 14 eth on an nft true
true yeah i mean hey that was when yeah the like now we pay fractions of a penny for gas so yeah usually those were those were the those were not the fun days but also jan furlough says you should save $4.2 in eth for later today he's just saying i don't know what i don't know where but i would just keep an eye on jan he's up to something so be on the lookout
and into the not so great news after those like fun fun things for today this was bad layer zero this is from decrypt layer zero pins 292 million kelp dao bridge hack on north korea's lazarus group lazarus group attackers forged a cross chain message came within minutes of a second drain and wiped their tracks on the way out so this happened yesterday i think it was yeah yesterday no saturday and kelpdao was hacked they had i believe the issue was a one one of one signature like multisig d v p d i think it was a d v n d v n so it was some very not great security on the part of kelpdao so a lot of finger pointing going on like layers there was like not our fault and everyone's kind of finger pointing and then this caused what happened was that then the attackers could create their own version of rseth and they basically created it without collateral so they they created coins out of thin air then they went over to aave and used those coins to take out a loan in real eth or weth actually wrapped eth and then those funds were taken stolen and it's here we go and then we're off and running so we have this very crazy contagion that's happening and is still happening and so lots of folks were hurt by this or their funds are currently paused and we don't know if they're going to be hurt by this so be careful out there this was from stani of aave rseth has been frozen on aave v three and v four the asset does not have any borrowing power as a measure due to kalkdao bridge exploit that happened outside of aave both aave v three and v four does does not have further exposure to rseth then there was a lot of other different bridges different deposits all that were that were that were having issues as well todie mentioned any concern for eth depositors and other chains like base and he was smart enough to get his eth off of there because the problem isn't that they were necessarily at risk but that they shut down like any kind of withdrawal to act so hopefully hopefully wherever you are you are safe this was not fun to see and then in other news other not great news and i have questions for you about this if you use vercel you've got a sev-one one rotate all e n v vars and secrets in your vercel dashboard right now two regenerate any github tokens connected through vercel's git integration three check build logs for cache secrets from all deployments revoke api keys for stripe databases anything sitting in that dashboard so this was in response to vercel's post that they identified a security incident that involved unauthorized access to certain internal vercel systems impacting a limited subset of customers so
did you need to do anything to like regarding the vercel
so for this specifically no so vercel said they contacted everyone impacted it's not everybody i think when this first came out there was mass panic that anyone hosting on vercel which is everybody and their mother yes would have all their secrets exposed someone posted i guess they found it on the dark web someone was selling vercel secrets not their artificial secrets they're c they're
they're
any of your any of your api keys could be private key wallets if you do any sort of like programmatic stuff and so it it sounds like it was it was a subset so i'd we we i say we we did not get the email okay but guess what it's a really good idea to rotate your keys anyway just because if it's not today like you don't you wanna be able to know that you can so a lot of people especially like the vibe coders of the world or people somewhat new or on your own you don't really think about setting up processes to make it easy to rotate keys
you may not know you
may not even know what you're like how how many keys
to do
it where they yeah are yeah so like if if you weren't in if you're impacted you should do it asap and if you weren't probably a good idea to take time anyway to figure out how you would do it in the future should you need to really quickly but it's also good practice to rotate keys on a regular basis even if you're not ever compromised
okay and there were a few other things about using the google workspace i believe that was part of what was impacted like if you were had it connected with your vercel or something like that i think that i saw something about that as being an issue as well
i see
i'm not sure what that is
and i wonder if that's like if you authorize your google workspace
i think so
or like an through an agent
yes
or something like if you
i think that's what it was mhmm yeah i think that's how they actually got in there oh and i'm wrong opening day was weeks ago at fenway and they're playing the tigers today never mind sorry sorry about that
oh we have live fact checkers
i know thank you zol
the community noted
the community noted live on air and you're you are right the opening of fenway itself back in like nineteen o whatever was actually this day yeah so i think i got it mixed up anyway
but anyway i'm going to be rotating all of our secrets and it's like it's it's crazy when i but like the inventory of how many i have to do there's so many so so many
yeah how he caught up that's good to know yeah and i i think it's like it's always when these things happen just a good take a check on all your all your things it's you know and half the time when these things happen you're getting impacted by something that really doesn't like you didn't do anything you didn't do anything wrong it's just that there's some contagion and like yeah rolling rolling problems so just be on the lookout for all these issues right now
while while we're talking there are other kind of good practices to do with development and doing api keys like limiting if you have an api key limiting it to the most narrow scope
okay
so that if someone gets your api key they can't like so for our aws for instance like i have an aws integration i have an api key that is does not have permissions to our full aws environment so even if someone takes this right if someone takes this api key and it gets it gets compromised they can't use it to spin up an ec two instance or whatever so things like that
that would be a good workshop yeah vibe coding vibe coders sharing the best practices or better yet non vibe coders sharing their best practices would be even better to the vibe coders so there you go alright good to know so be safe out there be safe out there folks it's getting dangerous and one more hack to shout out pump dot funds instagram got hacked and something else i think it was instagram and maybe tiktok i think both and the hacker is apparently unhinged so be on the lookout or don't actually maybe just don't maybe just don't go look but yeah seems to be a lot of craziness going on right now and this from brad q so now to local news twenty nine seconds of farcaster what did you miss this weekend art and artists dominated the timeline what started as a copypasta there should be more art on farcaster turned into two one hundred artist starter packs created by the farcaster intern check them out and you can hit follow all if you wanna follow all the artists on farcaster the far hack deadline has been extended to april 26 so you got you still have time and 3,000 in prizes were added three categories mini apps agents and snaps we'll talk more about that in farcon shortly paragraph announced some ai native updates and adrian built this newsletter archive website in about fifteen minutes with the update so there you go and you made it look pretty too i forgot to grab that one in cool building news kagami built a cool mini app showing the top five highlights from baseball games even if you aren't a sports person the mini app is worth a look rizzle created a meme studio mini app that got some rave reviews i think
i don't
know if i pulled that one i better pull that one and then i had yet to post that we had a show today because i somehow somehow managed to forget that i'm gonna grab this mini app the meme mini app really quick because i think i forgot to pull it for the builders part but this was really cool from rizzle alpha testing a farcaster meme studio mini app so i control people here more effectively you can do this too and it basically takes your your
pfp and you can add it to various classic memes kind of thing so kind of fun and the farcaster account said i'm in this photo and i don't like it
so there you go anna i'm gonna pull this as well that i forgot to pull you had built a new landing for our like another way to look through our newsletters so you can subscribe scroll through past posts and has the same look and feel of the branding of our rest of our website so very cool and they have a bunch of things that they're experimenting with right now can you share a little bit about that because i forgot to grab that one as well did
they post about it
i don't know if they put oh
they're new
did they post i think they did
yeah how much is how much is public that what they're working on
okay hold on let me check they're doing a
ton with i they're doing a ton with ai like really leaning into ai and agents in support of media creators so newsletter writers or just kind of anyone creating media on the internet i'm wondering
here's what they did share oh actually let me grab this yeah we we just shipped a handful of improvements for writers developers and agents alike draft and publish straight from claude or chatgpt sell gated files inside of any post get paid by humans card crypto or ai agents list your whole archive for agents to buy so this like i'm still sort of wrapping my head around the best use cases for this it seems like skills would be one if you were publishing different skills that to make it easy for your agent to find those as well as maybe tip the creator kind of thing what other like use cases do you see for for example getting paid by agents or selling gated files inside a post things like that
i guess how to's certain things i guess that's related to skills right like kind of teaching agents how to do things you could probably do a how to forecaster for an agent to come and yeah and then gated i mean forget about agents i guess it's like i don't know if agents are gonna be any different than humans like what is someone gonna would be willing to for so any sort of like niche niche knowledge or how to's but
niche knowledge
that's interesting yeah
so it's like it's i don't know it's so hard to predict in the future exactly what works so just try things
just try things we'll say
i don't know like it's hard hard to know
alright well you can go check this out and read a little bit more about what they're thinking over their paragraph and interesting to see so more new developments this from the farcaster intern 100 plus 100 equals 37 made a second farcaster artist starter pack this morning named it the exact same thing as the first pack no number list one list two just an extension of the list 100 additional equally amazing artists who have been active recently and i'm still not done so if you're still not on here it's just because i hit the limit again so there you go if you're looking for artists on farcaster you now have two starter packs that you can grab and one of the ways that you can find this is on the profile of farcaster as well so you'll find if you go to their profile click on starter packs you should see all the different starter packs that farcaster has created and more to come is my guess so there's also a photographer one there you go so go check that out this from phil you guys don't have access to zuckbot this is funny so beeple was out at node in palo alto with his dogs that look like various silicon valley i don't know what do we call them i guess billionaire for lack of a better word you know masters of the universe so this was the zuck one with phil but i saw them also out just like walking the streets and people reacting to them and it was pretty pretty funny so go check that out this from nonlinear spandex is live on farcaster every single swap now routes to the fastest best price dex aggregator spandex expands tokens pools and chains beyond any single aggregator it's free and open source adds redundancy when a provider fails and removes vendor lock in so very cool to see your swapping is getting better
you're getting community you're getting community noted for the second time today
what did i do now you called the those things are not dogs oh
i see and the actual dog takes offense
i i apologize they are robot dogs that's literally what they are have you seen them they are robot dogs let me go back but yes i understand why you're why you're upset bert but yes they are robot dogs
they are not real dogs though nothing can replace you our little furry friend
moving on find snaps easier on profiles so like we just showed you with the starter packs if you go to someone's profile you will be able to see their snaps so go right to the profile next to cas you'll see snaps if they've created any or shared any they will be there so there you go so for example here's one that rish had shared that he used in that example you can check on the snapmogotchi but also it's dead so nothing to check so say angel anytime now anytime now you want to revive that guy we promise to do better this from you what are you building it's okay if you aren't building with code this essay by the intern reminds me of something i wrote two years ago for the farcaster writing hackathon by the way we should have another one of those because writers are builders too i spent time trying to articulate exactly what it was about this place that got me to stick around and it was the builder vibes that was number one on my list builders are optimists builders are generous builders are confident and not threatened by scarcity or others if you want to read it here it is but then we also had this from the farcaster intern on redefining a builder thoughts from the farcaster intern and i'm not going to read this whole thing because it goes all the way back to rome that's how they hook you it always is about rome that's how they get you these these guys and about the colosseum and it goes on from there so go check that out and also read adrienne's message as well we still have a lot of chat going on about the fork i am gonna read this one message from sayangel in principle the fork is interesting but some of the behaviors bubbling around the fork are pretty alienating to me and maybe that's a good thing so people can pick their community values i suppose that's what the fork is for things i think are net negative spike in discussion about airdrop criteria fuck you if you don't agree with me the people who built farcaster classic were grifters idiots etcetera good versus evil framing word tells leeching on the incredible shipping velocity of cassie and co people who love using a lot of words to say nothing really benefit from governance problems and i enjoyed joining and participating in farcaster because crypto discords brought it away as these people took over don't want to be there again i think there were some good comments here there was also some good discussion in here with arjan and royal aid and a few others adding some thoughts and i think as we kind of continue down this fork path as it becomes as we start to see it come to life
you know just be kind is what i would say because everyone's got their their own own feelings on this and we can all live in harmony and peace alright thanks mom adrienne hey now any thoughts any other thoughts on that no okay like no alright well i see we have erin and martin from i'm gonna call it wide and they're gonna they're gonna have
to correct
me until they correct me i'm calling it wide wyoming decentralized exchange and we're gonna bring them on up and then we'll circle back to a few more things about farcon rome and some of our builders but adding to the stage aaron and martin welcome it's great to have you here
yes absolutely very excited
it is wide
it's wide thank god yes okay i got one right for a change
yes wide with a y
wide with a y alright i mean that was much easier than having to like go w y d e or any other version of that that i tried so i want to show a couple things from your site from your profile this was one of the things that i want to make sure everyone kind of gets a chance to see and we'll talk about this but eats dollar sign eat is your token that you had created and eat is ending hunger every trade funds meals $40 of eat bought and sold one meal delivered by equals one meal delivered by feeding america feeding america is the number one organization ending hunger in the world we partner directly with verified five zero one c three nonprofits to distribute those meals trading volume creates direct verifiable impact with on chain transparency here's our team at second harvest food bank in orange county one of over 200 feeding america affiliates in the us seeing exactly how your trades turn into real meals on the ground we've already funded thousands of meals in the first month our goal is 1,000,000,000 trade what matters end hunger trade eat very cool and is that you guys in this did you go wait i thought i saw you yeah we did i'm like wait i thought i saw you at the beginning here very cool and let's start from let me back up a little bit but i wanna kinda you know get that in folks' mind and let's back up a little bit what is wide and when did you create this and sort of what's the what's let's start from like the beginning where did it where did it all come from how did it start
for sure yeah aaron i'll let you you start
yeah so we actually started in the dao space back in 2021 we started with standard dao and so standards quickly we we made certain pivots with certain exchanges collapsing etcetera into other sectors but standard really is our our venture studio and so why it isn't incubation out of standard
okay
we we've always had this approach you know daos can be something great and there's there's a way that we can bring the real world into daos and connect the real world and real world outcomes with with the things that you can do with daos and and we really saw that happen for us back in 2024 with the new legislation that came out of wyoming specifically the new dune legislation in in march 2024 and so with that coupled with you know lots of really great things happening in the broadcaster ecosystem specifically clanker launched banker then launched we saw a lot of things that we just had so much inspiration and we even appended to that we launched wide actually on the clanker sdk and wide specifically is our approach to take nonprofits public it's never been done before it's this is something that it's kind of weird to say that right yeah because that that's that's not really like how you would think about that but the the there's a few core elements of that which is why we lend that that that freezing and it's one you don't actually have governance in nonprofits from all the people that participate specifically the donors and the the recipients of of these interests it's mostly just this these these two different groups the the directors and and and also all the the board members of these nonprofits that they're running the whole thing and some of them are really big the other side is is the ability for actual funding to be more perpetual from these these governance token instruments where you take the same revenue streams that you're getting with you know clinker launches banker launches etcetera and you're actually routing that to something that has real impact in the real world and those can start to be you know a feedback loop on one another
very cool
erin so when you say and i've heard you say this when you say taking nonprofit public and and just to reiterate on that what you mean by that is really around the governance is making it public for anyone to come in and kind of acquire a piece of a nonprofit and then have input into governance
exactly it's it's permissionless right anyone can can buy one of these governance shares and then anyone can participate in in that governance and what that means for us especially with eat is certain things that you're able to vote on today actually is who is getting the funding specifically what food banks are getting the funding it's the first launch out of wyoming's centralized exchange where that token's launch is actually towards ending hunger and so we partner versus doing it ourselves and we partner with the best feed the children is actually our core national partner and then there's lots of local partners and local food banks that anyone can select based on effectively like a governance vote that looks like like a reserve index where the top 10 would receive that that funding
let me step back really quick for those who don't know what doona is it's a decentralized unincorporated nonprofit
association
association i'm like i left out the a and it created a way that you could also anonymously participate it lifted some limitations on like what an llc can do like with you're limited to 100 you have to specifically list them all etcetera etcetera so it creates like a different type of approach and so when that launched that's kind of what got you all thinking that that was maybe the direction to go because if you're dealing with nonprofits in the us and a dao it gets complicated so adding that govern that layer of legality kind of helps to soften the approach so and i'm curious about that so when you go to like these nonprofits and say we have a dao that wants to support you what is their what is what do they say to that she knows but she asked anyway
no it it's really interesting because these a lot of these organizations like feed the children for example they they actually want to do more in terms of how they're fundraising however crypto is very risky right apparatus for a lot of them and so we we actually serve as a service to them right now because if you think about it we're not taking them public right technically it's just arduna and that's eight fenced from a regulation perspective right so that just the risk is is much more something that they can they can actually tangibly take right and so they're just a beneficiary at the end of the day and because of that they're looking at what we're doing they're they just love it right because they're like hey we can align with you guys now we can see where this thing goes right it's very exploratory right now but obviously the future would be potentially them actually having their own token truly and being right on the market itself
so when and when you say like the holders of eth have an opportunity to vote on different governance things what are you using for tools for that in terms of that kind of approach
yeah so right now we have that all in our telegram channel okay so we have a mini app where everyone in that mini app can actually vote and propose which food banks they want to support and so 50% of the funds right goes to our national partner with feed to feed the children but we're definitely globally mindset we have a global mindset on this and so you know if you're in nigeria and you want to propose that you know lagos food banks actually get gets a portion you can absolutely do that and then there's a leaderboard right you can vote on that upbring that and then we'll distribute accordingly
love it so i obviously have a background in daos if you couldn't tell from the noggles so i find this really interesting but there's a lot of challenges like you mentioned with governance for nonprofits where you know the donors may not have a say in how funds are spent or the recipients may not have a say and we've seen problems with nonprofits over the years of you know nonprofits going in building something for a community that they didn't want in the first place and that it doesn't end up really solving the problem so when you bring in those other stakeholders into the conversation about you know solving the problem you might actually find better roots to that so i love this approach so how are you finding in terms of participation from holders are they participating in votes are they coming in are they asking questions are they putting proposals in like how's that going
yeah aaron i'll let you take that
yeah participation is it we literally launched the voting apparatus from mechanisms almost two weeks ago and so it's starting slow and it's you know it it's kind of like a walk before you run approach right like it's starting in telegram and then we're gonna continue to advance the actual mechanisms there there's a lot of teams that we're we're working with and talking with right now to continue to you know bring more advancements to what obviously like governance is today and there there's a lot of great tools and and also you're seeing a lot of platforms like rise and fall in in this like bear market and and we're seeing a lot of opportunity to kind of like pierce through the layer and and find the things that are really working and then pair those specifically with the food banks in the way that they've never thought about this right they they've never thought about governance in this way and there there's certain things that that we can bring from from blockchain and and you know crypto to them that they would actually use which today i they're not coming in telegram they're not going and right creating a metamask they're not going unsafe and starting to manage the funds there either you know they're not gonna be one of our signers but we're we're very excited on what we can get them to do and that that's really kind of our focus if we can get them to participate just from a conversation with the holders that's a huge lift for us because that's something that i think they want to do but the the gap between that and like their current processes today it's it's it's very far so and they don't really understand truly one like what governance from that standpoint means but also like they've never had some kind of perpetual funding mechanism that could kind of turn on a spigot for them and they don't they don't really know how to like call a community in in that way they they know how to create reports and and do what they normally do to do their annual fundraising in in the way that they do it today
and so and that's a great point and how are you like continuing that by like essentially you need some buy pressure for the token to then create fees and things like that so what are you how are you thinking about that in terms of keeping the meme moving forward so that you can continuously generate those revenues
yeah so there's there's two main things right now that we're doing so one is we're launching a debit card may oh right and and that debit card actually is not a like a stable coin crypto it's actually a traditional bank and effectively when you are spending anything on that card we're taking that 2% transaction fee that we actually get as the issuer of that card and we're buying each token with it and so also in that right there's a roundup mechanic and so that that demographic is really college aged you know individuals that they want more they wanna be part of something bigger than themselves right and they also are figuring out what banking solution they're actually you know going after right now i actually my my alumni is cal poly pomona so i was actually there on campus last last week and we're talking about you know this initiative and they're they're actually very interested right in trying to bring communities on board into this and even we're even thinking about a restaurant on the on that campus oh where where like marketing students can manage the marketing right this and that but yeah so that that's one aspect of buying pressure i think the other is we are about to launch on some centralized exchanges and our mentality on this right is charity is one thing right we're we're not charity because you're not just simply giving it away we think that from a economic point of view you can have a system where it's a win win for all parties and so the trading competitions actually we're able to do on the centralized exchanges are some of the largest that will ever be seen in crypto right actually the first one we're doing is up to like $4,400,000 in usdt not tokens right oh wow that selling they wanna put that selling pressure on where if we hit certain milestones we're able to actually feed that back right into the community in a very interesting way
is that the bitmart one that you were doing trade to feed a thon is that okay very cool and so are you doing more of those that's a great idea
yeah so that's that's a really smart idea that's the first one they're they've been great right like in terms of the mechanics to actually execute something like this they're one of the ones that you know can they have that capability but to your point you know that's just the first one and then we'll you know continue to move forward in the right way
awesome adrienne what have i forgotten
okay well two two questions the debit card is that through a beecard by any chance
it is not so we we actually part we partnered with a fintech that services what will be effectively like our customers so a lot of nonprofits so boys and girls club they service like all the sororities around the us and so and they're not they're not huge right i think they have an au of like 10,000,000 or something like that but it definitely there's just a lot of synergies there because if you think about where we're going as well right now you know feed the children they don't want to accept the funds in crypto and so on the path here we need to get to that because we know that transparency is very important right you saw what happened in minnesota and so effectively right we we're wanting to create the hunger network of sorts where we attach a wallet to a nonprofit right we kyc them we docks them and when we send the funds it sends on on the stablecoin rails but then it also just automatically goes into right an ach into their traditional bank account and now you can just track right everything and say oh okay
it much easier for them as well yeah
correct
that's great okay
and i think i saw maybe aaron you pulled this up you said $40 like right now it's like $40 in e if someone purchases i assume that generates enough fees that's the fees that kind of equal one meal
yeah exactly it and so it it's actually as little as $20 so what we what we had to do from the very beginning was we had to go and figure out the feasibility of first launching our first token so when when we launched e you know we actually there was like a number of different causes that we could have launched we actually posed it to like a broader audience on x at the time you know what should we launch and at the time it it was back in december there was like the snap fraud crisis and all these things in terms of like the federal government and so like hunger was a huge conversation and and topic and then there were were a lot of other things that were going on too i think we put up like cancer was one cause that we could have launched as well as homelessness and housing and and eat hunger actually won and so we launched eat but before we could do that we had to fig figure out what was that kpi that we're tracking to because we wanna make sure that we're always doing things in an objective approach and so we actually went and we spoke with a lot of these food banks and you know the ones that would speak with us you know hi we're a dao and we want to help you right and and the ones that actually spoke with us right they actually have models already that they raise funds and food for and the best ones feed in america that's that's one of the biggest ones feed the children that's also one of the biggest ones in in in america and feed the children's also global they have very simple models $1 is $3 $1 is $10 actually for feed the children it's it's it's 3 plus they they give other things with their meal packages for these kids because food is not just the the one thing that causes hunger it's also you know how are you doing with education and all these other things and so we took that and we actually assigned basically an average and we were a a bit more conservative on the average so basically $1 is five meals and then we rounded that up and and we we move forward in that way but if you take it to the extreme right if if we're doing $1 10 meals then actually $20 traded would be would be equivalent and so it it actually ranges between 20 and $40 depending on where all the funds are going and and that's that's something that we found to be a a a good good metric
yeah and i i i think what's important about that is you know we know what we do really well and we also know what they do really well right which is actually distribute food to people who need it and so like that's you know i think that's very important because you see this a lot in crypto where it's like this rhetoric of we're gonna do this but have you ever done that before right you have the experience and actually understand the business and i mean we're not you know saying that we know that business like feed the children does but we definitely know how to partner with the people that know what they're doing right really really well and so yeah i mean i'm i've learned a hell of a lot right as we've talked to more of these organizations even on college campuses like it's crazy when you actually find out right how much of food security is an issue on college campuses and so yeah i mean we're obviously super excited about you know helping where we can there
we did i did a partnership with food nouns a while back when we had a hurricane here back in 2022 and we they helped us to supply the food bank on campus at my university because they were having you know a higher demand because of the you know so many people were displaced by that particular hurricane and things like that so
right
yeah you can find even on college campuses there's a huge need and they do have most campuses do have a food bank they work with local partners similar to you know feed the children and other harvest city harvest things like that and working to you know get like excess food that's gonna be tossed away and things like that and and then distribute and making it easy for students to just go in without any shame or anything and just anyone can use it there's no limitation there's no like you have to tell us you know whether you don't have to demonstrate need you know you don't have to go through anything you just go in so and i think that's important too is taking you know taking the the shame out of asking for help and things like that so
100%
and a lot of these organizations are work towards that alright what did we miss what did you what else did you wanna share
well i i'm i was i wanted to ask about the you said you launched it using the clanker sdk
and
i'm just curious if you looked into any other token launchers and why like how was how was the experience launching on clanker
yeah we actually at the time we we looked at flunch we also looked at and obviously you could have launched in banker i think
which was you which was on clanker
which was clanker yeah correct correct obviously
but like it because we were predominantly we we had a a bit more of an x presence at the time and so doing like a x launch versus on on forecaster that was a thing
that's my next question by the way so if you want was about how you're building audience on x and forecaster and balancing that
so yeah yeah
curious but i'll get talking about glengar
okay and actually we did look at like very early days we obviously had watched pumpfund in in in a way that you know you can launch on salon and obviously clanker you can launch on salon and out too and there's there's a lot of volume there there's a lot of non x and forecasters there's there's a lot of tiktokers and all of that so we're always trying to figure out how we can get the most attention but we launched clinker because the team like it it's just kind of a no brainer and i think you know everything that has happened ever since right clanker gets acquired by a farcaster then farcaster gets acquired by you know and and team and it it just keeps going we see a lot of good energy and movement obviously i think it's been like a point of attrition for some teams but for us we we're digging in and you know we're we're finding that we're able to be loud now in in a in in a space that it even in the bear market right we're we're we're seeing everyone else have a bear market and we're feeling like we're we're as big as we've ever been and we're we're getting more attention and that those are all good things and i think we've been you know fully supported by clanker and team and so that's that's been a really great thing when i think about how we get attention on x versus farcaster i think farcaster is very different from x in in terms of you know the audience that that is here specifically it's doing things like this and really i would say things that like show the builder side versus like x it's like how do we just like actually get attention and and and and attention and i think though those are it it's great that there's there's a dissection there because we're able i think you know now that all these things are actually happening right like when we first launched especially the etoken i think most of cryptos thinks alright another charity coin cool like seems weird we'll we'll see remain to be seen right and and we have to continue to like grind down that that that stone to show that no this is like legit like this is actually like we're first of all we're entrepreneurs and this is the biggest thing we've ever done and we're like very excited about it because we know where this can go and now we have to show everyone else and with varcaster we get to like share that story i think in a in a deeper approach and then there's there's actually a really good base community obviously on x and we were on a we were on a x basis last week with one of the base communities and we'll continue to do those and i think we just need to get our our voice out there
yeah yeah i would think you have a different it's a different audience for sure but a lot of overlap as well and i think the more you can just be seen the more it helps and also with any kinda situation like this you're building trust so and that just takes time especially with when you as soon as you mentioned some kind of charitable connection people are going to be suspicious until they see you know the actual impact so in terms of that how how many have you are you able to dial this into like how many meals have been funded in terms of like how are your like what metrics are you using right now to sort of show how this is all working
yeah so we we we have the five meal tracker and so that's on our website i mean it's actually so there's two websites to go to there's wide's website which is widewithy.org and so we only have eat you know wyoming decentralized exchange it only has one token like so weird but but that's very specific right you know you can either go
you gotta start somewhere
exactly and and you can either go the route of everyone can launch which that's just not real life for us or we could show that this is a model that works and how it works and then we continue to launch very high you know proven concepts thereafter and then the other one would be eat.ong which ong is like the eu's.org and it was available so it's great for us and so we we actually on eat.ong you can also see the meal tracker but also we actually launched the hunger network on eat.ong and so you can actually if someone was food insecure or if someone was a food bank they could actually come in through that channel and that's also the channel that you come in for the community and so we'll continue to have more kind of i i would say more of the governance live on that page as well right now it's that part's in telegram so that's where you come in to join the telegram and then we're working to bring all those tools and like those mini apps into farcaster as well but where we see the meals going so right now there's the actuals and martin you probably wanna talk about this but there's the actuals of what meals are actually distributed that's what the food banks do that's what the those those networks do and their even their transparency is is not the best
right yeah
i think that's that's one of the things that we're it's our job to actively improve that entire system now that being said you know we went to second harvest in that was that whole video that was in irvine that's pinned on our forecaster and they have amazing logistics and distribution it's it's crazy and that's that's how we knew like this is this is a great fit how we can start to be transparent while also maintaining dignity of the participants that's that's really our job and so we say that there's five meals delivered in in reality it could be more it could be less and then we'll have an impact report at the end of the the the quarter when when that actually comes out
yeah and i'll i'll kinda touch on that a bit so and this kinda takes it all the way back to the beginning of this conversation right why why why like what is this whole thing so
my background i i used to be a cfo of two publicly traded companies actually right so my my job was conveying stories and narratives so that the street could actually take that right so volt was one it's a staffing company and then also a merchandising company one of the largest in the nation and so it's very funny right because like when when i'm doing this it's like alright what how can i shape this narrative and story so that when we issue our 10 k the stock goes through the roof and generally what you're you're talking about is you're talking about revenue and or profit right ebitda right all the things that you guys are accustomed to i think for us you know we think about this in a way where you can more say meals right is the kpi where we say alright we're gonna forecast that we're going to fund 3,000 meals in the quarter and boom right we fund 45 and there's a celebration around that right and there's a lot of substance in in what that could be and so a part of like the the name actually wide which we we actually have trademarked you know on the new york stock exchange n y s e for profit companies go public on the nonprofit right exchange w y d e you go wide right and so obviously we haven't gotten there yet we're not big enough to start saying oh go wide but that is the the mentality right and why you want to go wide is really what mattered right like i think i you know and this goes to one of your questions earlier adrian i think the reason behind why you know we look at right now why you'd even take a nonprofit public is what it can actually do to enable for profit businesses right so like if when i when i think of the debit card as an example that is a effectively a for profit commercialized enterprise and if i compare that to 20 different debit cards they don't feed families right they don't have the ability to bring community together right there's a lot of things there that inherently going wide actually enables for profit businesses to do a lot better in general and so that like hopefully right tries to tie this whole thing together because the debit card is the first right but then you can also have an apparatus where a restaurant can tie in the each transaction right in every single transaction there's there's fundamentally a ton of different ways right you can kind of shape that and it's all about community it's all about impact it's all about people at the end of the day and that's that's really you know the track that we're going after
so what in terms of what you have coming up what should people tap into follow you in all the things obviously yeah but do you have like another trading competition coming up are you expanding like what should we know that's maybe on the horizon
yeah so it aaron
so follow us on all the things which it's just wide org that is the the ticker or the tag on on everything there's i'll i'll let martin get into some of the the more like trading things and and everything that's happening in we we actually have a lot that's coming out and i'll let him say the the tagline which i think will be a good one but there's there's one thing that i want everyone to focus on if they're going to engage like join the telegram and then we also need we need like more builders we need people that have a builder mentality to start building out what could be you know we have it's it's actually really interesting right now we we have a significant amount of you know treasury in in in tokens and we actually have a a document that we wrote basically like a research report on the path to a billion meals because our target is to get to a billion meals funded that that's what looks like success for the eat dao but we're effectively once we get to a billing meals we think it's sufficiently decentralized and we think that it will be where it needs to be that means like actually a lot of money has gone through it and we actually need help to get there like this isn't my thing this isn't martin's thing and so i want everyone to start like participating thinking of things that they could start building with us because so there's actually like $10,000,000 in e tokens in basically it's it's set aside for like liquidity and which you know centralized exchange liquidity that's actually a thing you know we're finding out how much of a thing that is right
i'm sure yeah
you know there's so many people that you know laugh at that but that's a real thing you actually need that if you want to go there and do it right and actually have like be able to do the things that we're talking about doing to have the control in in the way that we want to have and not have them dictate the terms right that's actually really important because actually going there is being more attention more loud so there's we're we're thinking of ways to also you know clinker has their treasury coming out we also have ours and we want to start distributing that to builders that are building things in our ecosystem so definitely like reach out because that's that's a big thing that we're we're really ideating right now on how to do that properly
maybe a hackathon of some sort that's specifically tailored to needs that you might have might be a good idea to to think about especially coming into usually summer tends to be a little quieter on the hackathon front so that might be or to partner with something like eth global to do do a hackathon that's specific to that might be a good idea too
or partner partner with logadog for season three is it season
that's a good idea that's a really good idea
you guys logadog
no i got a dog
you know mike mike dot eath m y k
oh yeah yeah
mike are you listening if you're because sometimes he's in the chat
mike are you there he has a mini app that he kind of runs every summer where he asks people to log their hot dogs so it's like as you eat hot dogs over the summer you log them and there's rewards and game it's like gamified hot dog proof proof of hot dog eating
these are only costco hot dogs right
no believe any hot dog is allowed however costco hot dogs yes should get a bonus yeah
it's like you you you post your pictures of your hot dog but i could see there's some there's probably some nice partnership where you could buy in eat eat into there yeah
i love that
that's actually a really good idea that would be a great partnership because and he he does this during the month of july so coming up that would be a good a good combo and he did something else with he created a wish mini app and he launched a wish token around christmas and did like bought people gifts like yeah
i saw that that was cool
yeah so he does different he comes up with some pretty creative things so mike yeah you definitely need to connect on log a dog that's a really good idea adrian
it's a natural it's a natural fit
natural fit
absolutely the reason i was asking about twitter and farcaster earlier is when you guys post on farcaster about the updates i think
the one you did last week about up the the meals and i was like oh immediately just on farcaster was like oh eat i can support super frictionless i'll buy some eat and i didn't do it then but i just did it now on livestream because
she does stuff while we're talking yes
i always like well i had to be i had to prove how easy it was and it is it is quite easy you can't it's like not quite as easy on twitter i think
well i'll i'll plug farcaster even more on that you know obviously that was one of the things that we'd love that you can just hashtag eat and then you you see you see the holders you see everything and i still love it we need more holders on farcaster technically but when because x just launched their cash tags and he wasn't included because they go so long
through yeah
so that was a yeah
we got yeah so but but what's right there oh there it is right there exactly the very top so there you go you can just click right on that it
is it in your right there because i just bought it
it might
be but yeah there's only i'm seeing 65 folders on farcaster there's no one here
yes we need more
you guys are listening
absolutely we need more and i i don't think i don't know if i'm one of the holders i'm afraid to look so i'm not gonna look
i mean i
won't look just in case i'm not because i can't remember if i bought that one yet what the other thing we've seen you do you've seen you win some qr auctions as well and then get the bonus listing on clinker.world that just started so if you win a qr
got the day that we
yeah i think you were the first ones we were
the first ones easter sunday for us and we were the first ones so that was great
yeah and i've seen that i think a couple times you've you've won during that time period so that's great that's a that's a good way to approach it you get a bonus yeah it's it's only we we shouted you out too because of it so it kind of all like compounds which is great
yeah it's been like a long time running but i think finally people are starting to understand what you know jake was envisioning there in terms of like the attention economy and and we're we're all about it yeah
he's gonna flywheel's flying yep flywheel's flying
alright i have one more question adrian is purchasing e tax deductible
no no unfortunately no
then you make it
how however law well so what what we are looking at doing is making it tax deductible to fund challenges so right if basically if you think about all these college students that we're going to start to bring into the community especially through the eat debit card we'll actually fund challenges where we'll say alright go to your local food bank volunteer and post about it on social and if you do that we'll actually reward you right when you do and so we have a a quite a bit of people actually that are asking us if they can donate to those to get the tax deduction where then right that funds our ability to effectively buy it and you know give a subsidy to those challengers
yeah so that's that's wide foundation which that that'll be actually a proper five one c three today why why i'm in a centralized exchange it's a five one c four which five one c fours can't give tax deductions
mhmm
and and that's actually because like the governance the personal enrichment of token holdings we want to really like go into that specifically but still have that nonprofit status still have the you know federal reporting mandate but we we wanna make sure that we properly dissect both both sides of that
yeah alright this has been awesome it's been a great chat i love what you guys are doing excited to see what comes next we'd love to chat with you more about how we could support any kind of hackathon or you know getting more builders involved and so we'll we'll reach out about that but this has been so much fun anything else that we may have missed that you wanted to shout out yes
yeah martin well we have impact summer coming that was
impact summer
yes i love it
i literally
forgot about cheat them up for this
come on i knew i knew i knew i was waiting for something that there was like one more thing
yeah yeah so impact summer is coming right hot and heavy you know we're we're getting gearing up for it a part of that is obviously the trade competition that we're gonna have on bitmart but we also are gonna have one on telegram the tagline is really trade to feed right because that's effectively what you're doing so yeah no we're we're super excited we think that we can kind of bring back more vibrancy to the crypto market i i think like right to us we we look at things like this right there's a lot of people on base right now that are building true utility finally right in crypto and so i think you know it's this is obviously bigger than us it's it's trying to show the world that technology can you know make unlocks that you know we just simply don't have today on traditional rails and we can do it better right and and so yeah i'm super excited about the summer and i think it'll be very interesting
that's exciting alright keep us posted and keep us in the loop so we can help amplify what you're doing for impact summer and we'll be on the lookout anyway but very exciting exciting stuff
thank you so much for having us this was great
thanks so much for being here this has been great and it's been great to get to know you both aaron and martin thank you for being here from wyd all of everything we talked about all the links will be in the show notes so you can go check them out go check out the website also yeah go go support not you know nfa oh nice u y o r but go buy some meat
cheers
thanks so much bye bye love them i love this concept and yeah it's you know i've watched nouns attempt to do some of these types of things and it gets tricky around the five zero one c threes and the you know and just the approach so it's really cool to see how they're thinking this through and approaching it i would love the idea of like maybe an impact summer hackathon that's on farcaster or something like that would be fun but you're 100% right we need mike on this asap
mike
we need a log a dog collab like eat a dog and support you know yeah support a good cause i think is amazing alright we've got a couple more things
more news
dive into we've got more news we do let me we've got a few things we've got farcon coming up as well as we've got some builders who are building things so let me just pull all that up but let me start come on come on come on
i started opening things and it started slowing down all right here we go back to it farcon room last call this is from limone want in free ticket apply for a scholarship speak community talks are open demo show what you're building build submit to far hack don't just attend be part of it and this is your last call because we are coming right up to it and then we mentioned farhawk deadline has been extended to the twenty sixth i believe it is this is coming up in one second and you're if you have anything that you've been building that falls into these categories go apply we've got you've got agents mini apps and snaps and there was a boot camp for around agents so i'm excited to see what comes out of that this is gonna be a lot of fun so this is from limone deadline was too tight so we're extending it farhacks submissions are now open until april 26 more time to build refine actually ship something you're proud of we're also putting also we're putting 3,000 in prizes on the table 1,000 for the best project in each track agents mini apps snaps if you started something keep going if you're on the fence this is your sign submit here so there you go go get your get your snaps in especially i'm really interested to see the snaps for this one last thing from limone also make sure you're doing your if you're coming to rome do your quizzes get your italian ready go go play word today and again the farcac has three tracks agents mini apps and snaps alright getting exciting we're getting close so go check it out and if you need recommendations for roam in terms of hotels food etcetera you can find it there under our recommendations so i'm getting excited
debating if i should tell the people the story should we tell the people the story while everything else is opening up i'll tell the people the story
you're very close to not going
it's i was very i was extremely close to not going like there was a very good chance that i didn't think i was gonna have a passport in time to go because i've been trying to renew my passport since january having various problems various issues and it turns out so they came back to me last week with one final thing of like no you're still missing this particular passport book that you need to send that was renewed in 09/2019 i'm like what what passport that i renewed in 2019 i forgot i thought that my passport expired in 2019 and i did not renew it turns out i just didn't go anywhere for a long time i didn't have a need for it and i actually have a valid passport right now that i didn't need to renew so i had a about a $500 idiot tax that i spent trying to get this thing renewed
oh you're very happy
now i'm excited again but i wasn't even telling adria i didn't tell her till about a week ago of like
hey might not come might not have passed away
to go i wasn't telling anybody else because i didn't want anybody else to panic besides i was panicking but yeah so all good now and now we get to go to rome it's very exciting alright couple more things from our builders this was the most recent auction from qr as we've been sharing these it's been a lot of fun this is from the cyberverse one one of the most recent auctions oh that was titles let me move forward oh we had chef universe again we had eat.org which we just spoke with that was back on the board dackyswap don't know that particular one then we had the volt perps made simple won one of the auctions and i think we're getting close to the beginning celebration hub is another winner
have you you like gotten involved at all with celebration hub or check
it out not i have not
yeah have you i haven't either it's who is i think it's duckfax as building
it is duckfax yes
i see them talk a lot about it and they seem very proud of it and i have feel like i've been meaning to check it out and i haven't yet so i was
we apologize we're gonna go straight down sorry sorry doc we need to go check out your celebration keep going learn ai building
claim your base rank was yesterday's winner and as with all of these when you are looking at the mini app or online you can click on check out the link of the day check out today's winner and then when you go back into the mini app you'll be prompted it won't happen here because i'm not in the mini app prompted to claim some qr so go check it out very exciting seltorius our friend seltorius has launched a traders token for his his game so very exciting to see this come to life so happy to announce that traders is live powered by clankr i'm iterating and shipping on among traders that's the mini app faster than any mini app i've built so far thanks to all the great feedback and game data i've gotten so far this iteration is much very much a culmination of a lot of the things i've learned the game no longer relies on usdc for in app purchases rather traders powers the in game economy so if you're asking what would the token do now you know you can stake your token what would
the token do offload the token
to people have answers now
we have answers you can stake your tokens in the mini app that stake balance acts as your in game points for paid lobbies and prediction markets stake once and play when you win your staked balance goes up if you lose it goes down this is an attempt to make playing and earning as seamless as possible and make things like participating in prediction markets with snaps super simple and smooth so very cool a lot more detail here you can go check that out but if you haven't played among traders go check it out or you can watch our episode with seltorius if you want to learn more so very cool to see chris co created created his first snap join us on the sofa tomorrow which is i believe today and try out my first snap while you're at it so on the sofa community call which is today coming up i think it's at 01:00 eastern is that thirteen hundred no i don't know time zones problem but go check it out and cool to see this and he said that he had more sign ups than ever so the snaps are working this from kenny such a fun bounty much appreciation to azzi flynn for running this on poidh and we now have two new members of the poidh score top 100 azzi flynn moves to 89 passing marielle smoking frog and big brock and this was in regards to this my pixelquant cooked with this one shout out kenny and p o i d h bot for arranging the bounty was able to meet a great local artist pixahed so the bounty involved creating a digital card and very cool to see so this was the orc modge and all these mints that az flynn is doing for the dota game they're used you can use them in the game they tend to have like different use cases in the game so once again what would the token do we're getting answers people it's very exciting then they have custom games now so with our last patch we added custom games in game five this game has a set host that can whitelist players to join specific teams this means we can arrange tournaments and show matches we've already arranged with the farcaster and neymar teams to have an irl lan style tournament at farcon on may 6 okay if you are attending and would like to participate please contact luciano to register it'll be live streamed and there will be doughnut prizes before then our team is planning to host a casual tournament we'll decide on a date and time and then anyone can show up and participate comment below to express interest or go check out the discord very fun this is very fun cool to see couple things from last week that we didn't get to this from nikki sapp jukes a live audio client but live only works when people are online at the same time that's hard on a network this size right now voice notes don't need concurrency you post someone hears it on their own time recorded my first one here so you can actually record a voice note voice note and post it as a cast over on juke so go check it out and this from ruminations they launched their first episode of the quotient podcast so they're they're learning by doing their first episode is live break breaking down the us iran ceasefire what's going on in the strait of hormuz the israel lebanon conflict and where the markets are getting it wrong so very cool and then they also do market picks on the show and this from bankless that i thought was really interesting it was an article about cco and the bankless mindshare newsletter that had a shout out to nouns az flynn n and dylan abriscato and tempo i forgot to tag tempo in this because tempo was also mentioned in here so very cool to see that cc zero might be making a comeback this random thing from bricks bounty they kicked off planting season if you're not following bricks bounty you want to be during this time because they're they're they're they're building stuff we call them vegetables some people like them but very cool i always just love seeing their posts because they're just different and there's not many folks who are sharing a lot of gardening things and they have like a big old garden like this is like big big planting big stuff these are actual props so always cool to see and then lastly we had this over on twitter x coinbase is testing ai agents that show up in slack email at work just like any human teammate to start we're shipping two which are modeled after legendary former coinbase employees fersham and balaji who brutally frame mogged who in this matchup soon it will be easy for any employee to spin up a new agent for themselves or their team i suspect we have more agents than human employees at some point soon interesting so we saw an experiment with this with jesse i don't remember jesse x y z who you could put into the chats on the base app and talk to it would answer you as jesse would so this is interesting so you have fred the strategic executive agent your direct line to coinbase executive thinking strategic clarity priority alignment and exec grade feedback no calendar invite required discuss coinbase strategy and priorities refine documents strategies and concepts get expert feedback and guidance and then balaji is agent of chaos and creativity former coinbase cto balaji's first principle thinking distilled challenge assumptions think in decades see around corners challenge status quo and reframe ideas explore long term visionary concepts spark innovation and new perspectives so there you go fred and balaji are ready for you if you are a coinbase employee
maybe we can invite the them to our podcast since we haven't gotten the real ones yet we can get their ais
that's interesting it's an interesting idea we're gonna start we're gonna start interviewing the the ai versions if we can't get the real yeah i'm not sure like i think it's useful in some ways especially for folks who may be difficult to get in touch with you know in terms in a large organization but you might want their thinking on something so i think this could be useful i don't know what do you think how do you feel about that as you feel more novelty or like real use case i guess that's my question yeah is it more novelty
it's a little like uncanny valley and you're just like i don't really wanna talk to ai versions of people i know like i don't
yeah
so i'm like cool talking to ais that are completely made up
yeah
but it's like the it's like the ai version of someone you know feels a little weird i'm like it just kind of just sits a little not loving it and then from an organizational standpoint
whether or not it's like a person but i do see how that could be helpful almost like it's like i don't know if i'd wanna necessarily talk to a person but being able to have like native chat because that's kind of the the way humans communicate with company strategy i mean we have like all of our intranets that have you know what are what what are the goals for the years and what are your financials and what are your like or even being able to talk back about history of the company i'm new and i don't have all the right tribal knowledge of what we're so i think it'd be really cool to have chat interfaces with kind of broad company strategies and really smart people like oh talk to you know chat with a cto who understands a lot so right i like that concept as a from the company perspective i just find the like chat with this person but it's not that person a little off
yeah especially when they're living like i don't have a problem with that when i'm talking to talk to the dead play doh you know what i mean like really like it it feels different because i did that in venice ai and created like you know it created like a play doh chatbot or whatever they had a bunch in there and then i created a new one and that doesn't feel weird because it's very you know it's not the real person like it's not trending on anybody's real thinking but i do think it's interesting and it can be amusing but i feel it's more novelty entertainment than maybe real use case but it could be it totally could be so yeah and then well and to that point let ai steve jobs interview you yeah sure or interview them actually but that's where i feel like it has more use case is like the people we cannot really can't access right their thinking but i don't know i i'm curious to see the experiment you know what i mean i'm like i'm i'm really curious to like ask somebody at coinbase who's then using it like has this been helped after like a couple months has this been helpful in any way did it help you right you know think through something or whatever
from a company standpoint though like the ceo doesn't have time to go talk to everybody
right
yeah even though you you yeah
there's still an admin but
it doesn't mean that time for you so i think there still is
well and that's where i think that like that was you know that was the idea around the jesse x b t and things like that of like i don't have time to interact with everyone but here's a facsimile of me i don't know right i don't know
i think i have a problem with putting people on pedestals yeah of like exalting the you know certain but it's like but from a company perspective like i still am happy to put concept
it might make sense right yeah i get what you're saying like that makes sense you'd rather this be like just the titles like the rather than it being a person it's like you could have this based on like this or
the person
this is the strategic executive right and this is the agent of chaos but rather than have them have a name you know what i mean yeah yeah and i think they're giving it a name to to make it more accessible
you're welcome to analyze what that means like for my psychology i already know it so
yeah so funny alright everyone we're gonna call it there we will be back on thursday this week 08:30am eastern we may have a guest tbd
and anything else adrienne before i before we sign off for today
no no
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