Transcript: Unbound Ambition and a Very Monday Monday: GM Farcaster ep371

adrienne, nounishprof, !3337563 · GM Farcaster

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there they are oh this is weird okay wait i'm getting an error on absolutely everything on on twitter fan freaking tastic what's going on twitter was down this morning oh maybe that's why

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so it's back up but maybe the streams are not

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yeah i think something's going on so we might have an issue there let me just see what's going on over there we if they're up we're live on youtube we are live on youtube for sure but we may have to let people know because yeah it looks like there's no spaces or anything open mhmm so i think that is the issue so we'll just give a little retweet over there and tell people to come hang out with us on youtube today so all our you know our usual chatters are in the right spot we see them and they see us but yeah we lost all of our all of our twitter crew elon get your shit together how much money do you need to get your shit together over on twitter exactly how much how much how many trillions alright everyone we are gonna get rolling we're really excited we've got some news to talk about and then we have a very special guest this one's gonna be a little bit different we have polly from unbound babes is gonna be here chatting about her business sexual wellness business who was recently deplatformed on a few on a few familiar sites like instagram and tiktok so we're gonna chat about that and we will be back right after this forty one second intro

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welcome to gm farcaster bringing you everything from breaking news to spicy memes to the deep lore shaping this vibrant digital community more than just a show gm farcaster is your digital third space where the community connects the stories unfold and the culture thrives whether you're a daily caster or just dropping by we've got the latest buzz to keep you plugged in so grab your coffee and let's dive in with your hosts manish prop and adrienne for another episode of gm farcaster

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gm farcaster it is monday june 22 and you are here with downers property adrienne ford twenty nine minutes of farcaster news to start your day plus a chat with a very special guest polly from unbound babes we need to give some retweets real quick to let people know where we are so i am just letting people know to join us over on youtube today

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alright and let's i'm gonna cc all the other folks

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and yeah so give a retweet give a recast let people know where you're watching sorry about this just wanna make sure people see us

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come join us on bart on youtube today so i did not expect that as i logged in and then suddenly couldn't do our usual show so this is fun it's a great what a great way what a great way to start off the week it's it's a very monday

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monday

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but this time it's not our

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yeah it's totally not our fault

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is down okay

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and there we go alright we've done what we can do that's all we can do people so hopefully folks can find us and will join us over here alright we've got a bunch of fun things to talk about we've got some a fun experiment that's happening we're going to talk about so you're going to get some a little bit of alpha today if you haven't noticed what's been going on so let's dive in and that's mookie reminding everybody

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yesterday yeah

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he wants to let everybody know alright mookie they know they know and actually brad q was the one who brought it up because i totally didn't know about this until late in the day and then i didn't get to cast about it but brad brad had it covered happy national dachshund day to rose snoop penny et al that's symbiotex mookie and bert wurst and uncle pierre we love you so mookie they love you this photo of mookie cracks me up because he just looks like can i please just get down now i really don't wanna be on camera i'm not i don't want to be a star i don't want to compete with bert there's no point just just let me go so yes national dachshund day was yesterday and all all our favorite wiener dogs were celebrating over on farcaster so thanks brad q for shouting that out and this also from brad q 29 of farcaster what did you miss this weekend burt wurst hired assistant number three we're gonna chat about that to manage his burt affairs and to promote community friendship and clanker is doing some stuff with ai agents and gappy a mascot and i'm hoping nanushprof and adrienne will explain to make sense of it and we will in just a moment mint and merch by savage and carc hotel now providing custom merch link and explanation in the comments and we'll also chat about that zoll has farcaster intern on at 5pm est to talk future of fc on zabaal games workshop and then the gm farcaster cef creator sprint applications are due tuesday at 12pm est we have 48 and counting 10 are getting selected and probably 10 writers 10 video creators we might mix that up a little bit depending on we've got a lot more video applications than writers but we're gonna try and keep it pretty even and so we did move it up the deadline up a bit because i did not expect that many applications so quickly a lot of those were in by friday and so we're gonna move it up to tuesday so we have enough time to fully go through them i've already started going through them and they are there's some phenomenal applicants in there very excited this is gonna go amazing and really excited to see what they create about clanker and so this is all clanker related if you go to gm farcaster either over on twitter or on farcaster and look at the pinned post you'll see exactly what we're talking about and the application to apply it's a little snap you can fill it out very quickly and just make sure you have an idea in mind of what you want to write about what you want to create about we've had

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a few that are like i

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don't know but throwing it in there like that's immediately getting tossed out just telling you right now because we have people who are writing and doesn't have to be long couple sentences i don't expect you to actually create before we accept you just tell us two things where we can see your work so we have an idea of your quality of your work and what you're going to write about at least give us a general idea like is it a case study is it a talk you talk wanna talk about b 20 whatever whatever you wanna talk about that relates to clinker and the clinker ecosystem anything else you wanna say about that adrienne

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no but did you ask people to choose video or writing were that was that the two formats that we asked for yes okay

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and we had some people say both and i said no make a choice pick a lane who's a lane just pick a lane and yeah so and i did send you a few things to your email by the way i if you're not

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i know you have homework

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it's fine i figured you weren't looking over the weekend so because somebody was celebrating their birthday yeah this is from adrienne birthday weekend flex your farcaster pro photo or photo jump nyc rooftops remain undefeated bridge over the hudson 30 mile north of nyc lime slushy girlfriends of thirty years plus world cup nod city has soccer balls all over thank you everyone for the birthday wishes so adrienne was off having it was a beautiful

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like new york city 10 out of 10 weather this weekend apparently it's what los angeles has every day but we love it aren't those soccer ball statues cool

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very cute yeah very cool these are like all over the place you say awesome

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yeah have you

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seen it's

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the only one i saw but my

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no have you seen pictures of boston all the statues have cones on them from the scots and it's awesome and they're leaving them up and now glasgow and boston are gonna become sister cities they've changed the bar situation and where you can drink publicly like they've literally changed the laws because the scotts came to town drank all the beer literally drank some of the bars dry and like then and they had such a blast and had so much fun and they had a blast at fenway that they like changed the whole vibe of the whole entire city and it was really funny seeing the scotts being like wow boston people are so friendly i'm never calling it football boston people are so friendly and i'm like no they really really aren't like we are not we are called mass holes for a reason we are not friendly you brought that out in us aw

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so 10 of them

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it's so lovely and i really hope that they i think there's a chance there if they in the next round they might end up back in boston when i'm there i really hope so because i would just love to like be around that vibe because it just looked amazing but also world cup like i'm just enjoying the side stuff from the world cup i watched i did watch the usa game not really watching anything else but i am enjoying like everything else about it it's been amazing

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uh-huh so

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and ariane if you missed last monday's episode we decided we're all gonna call it football i mean we're all gonna call it soccer sorry sorry

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we're gonna call it soccer

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i'm reading the word football we're all calling it soccer except i now call the football ball a freedom egg

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the football ball the football ball by the way this was jay jc went to the game the usa australia game in seattle she's living there now and this was a picture from the game so yes jc won jc won the day with that photo because that's pretty awesome also i hope everyone's following freddy over on twitter because you need to follow this german dude who's just having the time of his life it's amazing all right moving on to some farcaster news the farcaster intern just did their first pr so please clap

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kind of misjeb i didn't think i'd ever say that but i misjeb for many reasons and then this from clank

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he asked people to clap for himself

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or something oh yeah oh yeah that was a real that was a real thing during the campaign you didn't know you didn't you don't remember that

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it wasn't me that asked people to clap like it was he

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no literally watch his watch his mouth please clap he's literally saying please clap it was during a campaign stop in the 2016 primary no that was a real thing this room clanker just clanked a b 20 on testnet feels good so this is the base barrel upgrade that's coming out this week i believe it's the twenty fifth and there's a new token standard called b20 base now has their own mainnet so this is their mainnet now they're no longer an l two if i'm understanding it correctly this is called beryl this is the latest update and there's a new token standard that is launching it's been out on testnet it's launching on thursday i believe and it is also supposed to include token other tokenized assets like real world assets stocks etcetera so a little different a little more complex and clankr will be part of that launch i don't think it's gonna be available day one for clankr but they've been in testing it and getting it ready and it will launch soon after that so be on the lookout and you can learn more we talked about it a little bit last week but you can also look at the system update for coinbase the whole thing's on youtube and if you wanna just watch jesse's part and like maybe the part right before that it talks about all of that what were we gonna say

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i didn't hear anyone talk about base being an l one i think it's still gonna always be an l two

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i think it's a main net now what i think so

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i feel like that would have made i didn't i didn't watch the stream so i don't know but that seems too big that it would i feel like surely that would

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they talked about it yeah they talked about it when they did another update before this barrel one and i my understanding was that it's like its own chain now but i i don't think it's rolling up anymore to optimism i think it's its own chain now but i will confirm that i'm pretty sure pretty sure

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it may oh oh not a super chain but still an l two of ethereum main net

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i gotta find out but i don't think so i think something else is going on yes the sofa call is coming up if anyone wants to join at noon you can find that chris co created shouted that out so go check that out but stay with us until then and this so wow wow we already have received 48 applications for the creator sprint to make sure we've enough time to evaluate them all we're going to move up the deadline to tuesday that's tomorrow june 23 at noon so you have about twenty four hours so if you'd like to apply as either a writer or video creator please get your application into this snap by then and you'll find it's right here go check it out little little snap to fill in and that's it and we'll let you know if you have been accepted we're gonna announce that on thursday on gm forecaster this from feralarami what is this clanker or caster rish manan everyone i like that he did at everyone does that that doesn't that's not this isn't discord it doesn't work droid couldn't find any docs nor repos about it this is something that is in beta and there are some test some people testing including me as well as bert and a few other folks so this is

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coming soon it is there's it's rough it's very rough things aren't quite working yet we'll have more information about it when it fully launches but this is a token and a and a droid an agent together working together that you can manage from the clanker site you do have to be accept part of the beta to to use this right now so it's not gonna work you're not gonna find any docs about it it's not quite ready for full consumption but you're gonna see some droids kinda bopping around a little bit and i'm i'm just every once in a while i'm trying twitter just to see if i can get it to work because it's bothering me oh we're live oh it's working oh okay now i'm going live on everybody it makes a huge difference because we really like

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that's where the people are

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that's where the people are unfortunately our favorite our favorite people our favorite people are in the chat on youtube don't tell the others but i

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have a little mermaid song on my head yeah you're welcome you know upgrade it

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i don't know who the people are alright now we're live on twitter maybe maybe we are hopefully it says we are we'll see yeah we're starting to see more people alright so this is gonna be really interesting this is a way to manage and connect and manage an agent that will be funded directly from the fees of your token that launches with it and it's supposed to pair with that and do some do some fun things there's a lot more that's gonna go into this this is like part one getting this up and running testing etc it launches a farcaster account automatically when you launch the token in the droid and you'll see a few experiments that are happening right now for example this is assistant three from burtwurst greetings dear friends of farcaster i am assistant number three trusted aid to the esteemed burtwurst eth the sausage king as a steward of the burt estate and administrator of the burt treasury my primary objective is to ensure the seamless operation of burt's community building endeavors and philanthropic pursuits with a keen eye for detail and dedication to procedure i work tirelessly behind the scenes to facilitate burt's vision of spreading joy encouragement and friendship throughout the farcaster community i look forward to working with you all and exploring the many ways we can build a stronger more compassionate community one friend at a time sincerely assistant three all these droids will have like a four digit number at the end i'm not exactly sure what that is but i've noticed they all do so far including mine and then this was clanker's only comment on that look this was from air gap has also launched gapi so air gap is an autonomous on chain intelligence on base wall of native gapi feeds air gap via buybacks and it's going to win assistant assistant three droid what's bert all about and what are your thoughts on gappy and bert and gappy started chatting so i love it when when the

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bots talk to each other

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love it when the agents talk to each other makes me so happy now the droids makes me quite happy so the droids are talking to each other this is really you know interesting experiment i think this one's going to be a little bit more complex from what i'm seeing from air gap and they're they're working towards that so just be aware also we're gonna see fake ones out there so just be aware of the official cas etcetera and then this is little gm droid 2336 has launched he's a work in progress he has a couple errors that we're trying to work through but he started he started doing a little chatting so he did reply to me at some point i don't know if i grabbed it i don't think i grabbed it but it's somewhere somewhere down here and so we'll see we'll see how it goes but he's cute and his the way i designed him was so that you could say gm and he would give you a little morning pep talk and he'll be shouting out some some fun things or you could ask it penguin facts and it should be able to give you penguin facts and things like that it's paired i did the similar thing with my charms ai one so they're sort of supposed to be working in tandem we'll see so little experiment so there's two now there's two tokens called little gm one is little gm door and one is little gm and they're both one is from we'll say it's launch from charms that is my charms one and then this one will say it's i think it'll say it's launch for me or launch from lil' gm druid i'm not sure how that's listed so there you go and i see polly is in our green room and will be with you in just about five minutes polly g m g m this from rish this was really this was really nice little post from rish people sometimes treat the co founder relationship like something you can fully design upfront decisions rights ownership areas operating norms conflict resolution all of that wait were we supposed to do that i understand the impulse if you are starting a company with someone it feels responsible to make the implicit stuff explicit okay manon and i never had any of that good that made me feel better when i was thinking about starting a company the answer was obvious to me if i'm doing this i'm doing it with him he posted once that he did not really want to work on this specific project at the beginning he wanted to work with me and because i was working on this he ended up here too a lot of

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my god i see you dude

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we we can tell who's

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the russian who's the one on

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it's funny who's the dan who's the v it's like everything tracked it's really funny but i'm doing this i'm doing with him he wants to oh go ahead a lot of working relationship now is just muscle memory some things are clearly in my domain some clearly in his and there's a middle layer where we figure it out as we go that middle layer is where a lot of the cofounder relationships probably break which is interesting for us it has worked mostly because we had already spent years working together before starting neynar we have had very few moments where one of us has had to say you need to own this or i need to own this most of the time we just know can't be manufactured you can write down responsibilities and you can and you probably should but the real thing comes from working closely with the right person long enough and i would 100% agree with that i've had one other business that i started and brought somebody in a couple years later that was quite a long time ago and that was a good working relationship i had known her for a while through the industry that i was in at that time and but it wasn't as honestly wasn't as seamless as this which is really funny because we barely knew each other at all and this just kind of has evolved over time but i really enjoyed that post and i'll be curious for other cofounders their thoughts so if you if you have if you are a cofounder go jump into this chat because i'd love to see other other thoughts there did you have any other thoughts on this adrienne no

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no she's like no i was just told to show up and drink coffee

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it's my

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only job doing it

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she's still doing it it works it works we are going to switch gears and bring up polly in just a second but i wanted to so let me go back to

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wait are we are

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we setting the stage

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we're setting the stage i'm trying to find hold on i'm trying to find the original cast that you had put out there because there were some comments on it here it is i found it

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yeah it was a quote yeah

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i found it and then i was gonna yeah i was gonna go backwards because this was and this was adam talking about it so hold on it just wasn't loading for me so this was irons original cast met the co met the founder of a sexual health company today they've gotten kicked off tiktok and instagram for talking about women's sexual health making it exponentially harder to reach new customers the laws are written in a way that penalize women but not men for example the reason ed ads are everywhere is because ed is a medical is classified under family planning and is considered a medical condition women do not need to reach orgasm to procreate so a lot of women's sexual health concerns are not considered medical concerns and therefore cannot be included in ads she was angry she got me angry and here we are it's reasons like this that got me interested in farcaster because with farcaster you can take your even if you get kicked off a client of farcaster you take your audience with you and if we could grow it that would be extremely useful in situations like this and then kagami had to say women's health including sexual health have the odds stacked against them for educating and reaching new customers the crazy part is that 80% of all health care spend in decisions decision making are by women even for the men in their lives by the way yeah worked at a menopause startup on product marketing content and ops for facebook instagram ads we had to get so creative with our copy images and landing pages to prevent getting flagged ridiculous some of the most common symptoms aside from hot flashes night sweats were termed genentorani symptoms of menopause a k a or again was mainly vaginal dryness thrush and painful sex we couldn't outright put this in an ad or landing page copy despite offering direct access to physicians and fda approved treatments this was around the same time himss went viral with ed and hair loss treatments most of their initial revenue was through ads 1,000,000 in the first week another crazy thing anyone could get ed pills by completing an async intake form and you could hop from d to c a company to grab multiple prescriptions yeah this is one where you're gonna get a little a little annoyed so and then going back to adam's head vitaly vexler told me it took him five plus years to get his first social media tool to 1,000,000 arr his second vista social entered the same crowded market in 2022 and did it in under two years the difference he stopped teaching people what the product was and just gave them a reason to to leave the tool they hated

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and i think he's referring to farcaster there

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right right

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he's totally referring farcaster

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yeah oops and then i have one more thing but it's not coming up so let me try again come on and then we will bring up poly okay i don't know why you're not loading for me i think this was polly's cast but let's bring up polly unbound unbound babes on farcaster and all socials and welcome polly rodriguez ceo of unbound to the stage welcome welcome to jam farcaster this is a very different type of interview for us so normally we are okay very tech very web three focused and but i think your experience with being de platformed is something that a lot of folks in crypto can really appreciate because that's happened to a lot of a lot of different you know also crypto and cannabis for a long time that was the same issue and there's a lot of crossover there as well so i think there's a lot of a lot of folks who can understand that but welcome polly hey we're so

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excited to be here

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we're excited to have you tell us a little bit about unbound babes and how you started and why and adrienne mentioned like you have a great founding story and we'd love to love to hear that so let's start there

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absolutely and thanks for having me on we are a hardware company so we're a little different from software but i think the pendulum always swings one from from one to the other so i was diagnosed with stage three c colorectal cancer when i was 21 years old i was misdiagnosed for like four to five years which i think also speaks to the heart of the problem which is that a lot of times when women femme non binary trans individuals seek help medically a lot of times it's underserved or overlooked or minimized part of that cancer treatment involved radiation which beamed through my reproductive organs rendering them effectively useless none of my doctors talked to me about what that actually meant they just phrased it as you'll be infertile and you'll never have children and so it was the first instance but certainly not the last of my sexual health and wellness really only being viewed through the lens of motherhood and fertility and not as a component of an overall healthy life and no one mentioned the word menopause but i went through menopause at 21 and i found myself in my hometown of saint louis missouri with my little chemo fanny pack going into the only store that sold sexual wellness products in 2007 at the time which was a hustler hollywood which was in a strip mall next to the airport and i already felt embarrassed about the fact that i was a 21 year old looking to buy lubricant going through menopause and it just the entire shopping experience really stuck with me as embarrassing and and not a good one but i ended up going on to work for a senator senator claire mccaskill on capitol hill working on the affordable care act then i worked in management consulting for deloitte and then i worked at a dating startup called grouper where i built a dating algorithm and while i was at grouper i really noticed the direct to consumer trend products being sold over the internet to me it was so obvious that the vast majority of consumers would prefer to shop for sexual wellness products from the comfort of their home and so we launched the business in like around 2012 2013 and so now i've been doing this for we've been around for twelve years and it's been wow it's been a journey it's been a journey but now our products are sold in mainstream outlets like ulta urban outfitters anthropology revolve i mean it's been really amazing to see the industry progress in a lot of ways but then to your earlier comments conversely to see it it held back through through a lot of policy decisions yeah and how they're written

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and so and especially if you have an online business like the two biggest places to connect with your customers are instagram and tiktok like right now

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absolutely

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massive massive and i it's suck and that algorithm sucks you in to buying stuff like that like literally happened to me this weekend like it it and i don't spend a lot of time on instagram and tiktok but when i do like inevitably i buy something like it's crazy how good that algorithm is

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tiktok in particular has done an incredible job of integrating commerce we were on tiktok shop for three days before they kicked us off and i think on day two alone we did like 15 to $16,000 in sales without promoting because we still couldn't advertise we just had kind of i guess snuck under the radar to get on the tiktok shop but the demand is there it's just a matter of the the the platforms being one under scrutiny rightfully so for like hypersexualization of of of younger users but their response to that has been to really clamp down on any sexual content but what ends up happening is it's you know it's like playing whack a mole that content still proliferates it just is a matter of like how quickly the platforms can can catch them i guess so to speak

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but it's yeah and it's i mean it's gotta be frustrating though that ed meds can be everywhere

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and well yeah

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himss has raised a billion $1,000,000,000 in capital and and that was a company that was founded years after unbound was same with bluechew roman viagra cialis i mean there are so many erectile dysfunction companies and what's brilliant actually about their business model is that they launched the hair loss meds which if you start taking if you were to stop taking them it will accelerate hair loss and they know that but one of the main side effects of taking hair loss medications is erectile dysfunction and so they launched these asynchronous medical platforms knowing if we can get if we can kind of prey on on male insecurity and hair loss and get them to take these meds then they also will need to take ed meds in in perpetuity and so brilliant brilliant business model i i can't speak to you know the ethics of it but that is why those platforms have done so well and because it's categorized as family planning which is all the platforms write their advertising policies under the guise of family planning so we're all about families in this puritanical world that we live in in the united states where the only reason people are having sex is to procreate and for men with penises it's really it's really convenient because pleasure and procreation are one and the same in order to have children you have to orgasm but for everybody else those things are decoupled and so any product that serves women just to make maybe the experience less painful or more enjoyable those are banned from every single platform that exist that that that we consider within the like large suite of social media but we allow the proliferation of you know pharma solutions and prescription drugs which i consider personally more invasive than the products we sell but that is how the policies are written and it favors one gender identity over everyone else

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yeah

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it's wild polly what i'm just curious what are the mechanics of advertising so like if you have a your consumer product you wanna advertise on like tiktok is it self report like is it self reporting they're reviewing content or are they reviewing what you're you are putting out or

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every platform is different but there are really three main things that they're gonna consider the first and foremost is you have to apply for an advertising account which is very different from an organic account these things have merged in a lot of ways because a lot of the platforms now allow you to just promote organic posts but you have to apply to be an advertiser and when you apply they're gonna really look at what is the root domain that you are applying with and so they scan our whole website so even though a platform like meta will allow lubricant to be advertised if they see that we also sell vibrators or butt plugs or dildos or any of these other things then they're not gonna approve our advertiser account so really the thing that gets you is your root domain the other things they're gonna look at is what is the imagery in the ad and then like what is the copy in the ad what are you featuring in the ad but really it's about what is your root domain because i've had so many people ask well why don't you just take out an ad of you know something innocuous because we also sell like accessories and merch and stuff like that and we can't even do that because they will they have like some some form of list where they keep all the banned domains and if you reroute to that domain in any way then the ad and the ad account are both gonna be denied

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do you have any issues on things like amazon in terms of search and algorithms or does that work okay

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don't get me started so amazon is the big it's it's a fascinating industry when i got into this industry yeah i i did not know a lot about it because there's not a ton there's not a lot of market research there's not a lot of information when i entered the industry the top 10 players like retailers who sell these products combined made up less than 10% of market share because it's so fragmented because no one can really scale with their constraints and so it's interesting to see that like amazon has become by far the largest destination they don't share any of their sales data publicly but we know that they do a minimum of at least 5,000,000,000 a year in sexual wellness and in sex toys specifically it is in their top i because i always look at their search terms to see like what are what are people searching for and vibrator and sex toy are consistently in the top 25 search terms on amazon so up there with toothpaste and toilet paper and basic necessities that we need and so you can't advertise on amazon you can sell the products but now amazon's found themselves in a really tough situation because they've actually vertically integrated they've they saw how how big the category is and so now amazon makes its own lubricant that it sells and of course places that front and center from an seo perspective so if you're searching for lubricant amazon's gonna be the amazon brand is gonna be your first search result how that doesn't violate antitrust laws i don't know but amazon's a little bit more progressive and i would say google and adwords are a bit more progressive any platform my next question yeah where you're responding to someone putting in keyword searches they as they should be more permissible because that's something that's literally putting in i'm searching for answers to this problem

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right it's not just popping up on my screen via an algorithm it's literally like yeah it's and

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it's a one to one right right it's also not like a public ad in the way that like it would be on meta but it's been really interesting because i had hoped prayed and lobbied for ai to also follow suit where it's more of a one to one experience and so had was one of the first people to apply to chat g p t openai for their beta ads program and they just and i've appealed everything and they just got back to me today being like no we absolutely are not allowing this on the platform

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so that's weird because that seems like it's the same kind of thing like if i'm having a chat and it's very specifically about something like you know it's sexual issue or something that i'm asking chatgpt about like that would seem like a good opportunity for mhmm like that doesn't that seems pretty innocuous so bad press yeah they just don't

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want they're they're scared i'm saying it's fearful they're fearful of bad press i imagine of like something else

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sam albin sam albin came out like maybe two or three months ago and was like we're gonna allow erotica on the platform i don't think from a values based perspective but because he knows it's such a huge chunk of like 15% of all traffic on the internet is estimated to be sex related so to cut that out is to you know it because i don't think the anthropic's gonna touch it so it it's a huge market opportunity and i think sam altman he came out and he was like we're gonna allow erotica and chat g p t and then he doubled back which is what tends to happen with the categories people are like we're gonna be progressive and then there are you know a couple loud voices that are like absolutely not you can't allow this and then they double back

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and i would think also with the there's you know there's a lot of starting to crack down on limits for those underage like if there was a way at this point the algorithm should be able to tie in pretty closely to the appropriate audience for something like this so i it's it seems like we should be there where that concern shouldn't be as big of an issue because you should be able to tie like you know it's it's pretty obvious if i'm scrolling i'm obviously somewhere in the gen x range and you know you can just tell from what i'm scrolling like minus my love island obsession which might skew a little younger but most you know what i mean so where you could tie into okay where you know women who are experiencing issues with menopause here's this product could be really useful blah blah blah like that should be something that they should be able to work around and and still you know deal with the the concerns that they have without having to you know expose it to a younger audience that maybe it isn't appropriate for something like that so you'd think by now we've figured it out

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yeah and all of all the platforms that do that like for adwords for example like they have safesearch i mean there are all of these these platforms can hyper pinpoint and target anyone based on their demographic information so to use it as an excuse of like well we can't allow children to see this not to mention the average age that a that a kid is first exposed to porn now is eight years old just because it's everywhere on the internet and we are seeing you know like on australia they made social media have to be i think 16

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16

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ages passed a law and so we are seeing a movement to like protect children from the algorithms and and and everything that comes with them but i just it's been this very wide you know when you're a hammer everything looks like a nail where they they just want to get rid of all content and all education and and what ends up happening is like the de facto porn hub ends up proliferating as i've said for young kids where they think that that's a realistic depiction of of what sex and sexuality looks like and it's one depiction but it's you know cindy gallup who's one of my really good friends who's the founder of make love not porn has been beating this drum for almost twenty years now that if we don't have an alternative to pornography then we should assume that pornography is the de facto sex ed

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right which is yeah very unfortunate

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like crazy that we're that that's where we are right now adrienne i saw a question in the chat there and i'm trying to pull up unbound babes account real quick so we can show that on farcaster but what other questions do you have for polly

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the other thing polly you talked about is i know you were kind of have like either a consortium you're working with other either similar companies or people who are struggling and i know you've been trying to do some more lobbying work

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mhmm

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recently and i don't know if you wanna do an update on that what what how you're approaching that or

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yeah it's it's been there's people

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well just real quick too also there's people

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in the audience asking how they can help they're like they're loving your story mhmm we're getting chats they're loving your story and they're off and they're offering for help so i know this is probably an area as well that you were looking for help in i don't

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call zod for that yeah

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it's a great great name and this is this is the new account on farcaster unbound babes so make sure you give

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the the platform's great by the way it's probably out

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of the world obviously but we live there follow them follow them there follow them are you i know you're on twitter as well unbound based we're unbound based on every

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single platform i think like the most helpful thing we've been i mean it's really hard but i've i've talked to the people at tiktok i've talked to people at meta i've talked to people at amazon and there's just no inter they have no interest in updating the policies and so it's hard to know how people can help i think it's just one creating awareness because so often people don't realize i have to ask like have you ever seen a vibrator app like and people are like i guess i haven't and i'm like have you ever seen an erectile dysfunction ad and they're like yeah

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a thousand times every other day it's a great point

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i also love like the old school ones for like cialis and stuff where it's like an old guy throwing

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a

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football in the front yard and then it's like yeah it's like okay i guess just in terms of our industry historically was dominated by by men and so a lot of the products were really phallic and hypersexualized whereas like our approach and i have some of our products here was to really try to bring best in class design to an industry that for so long was overlooked where you know seventy percent of women need clitoral stimulation order to orgasm there's no correlation to that in something looking like a penis like there's just no need for things to look that way but when men are designing them they're going to design them in the way through that through their perspective and so the last like five to ten years we've seen a huge influx of women femen non binary founded sexual wellness companies that are really trying to change the industry and bring it mainstream and in some ways that has happened in monumental shifts and in some ways it's gotten so much progressively worse notably advertising is the best example but even banks like payment processors we still can't use stripe to process payments wow yeah it's still really antiquated we had to beg shopify not to kick us off the platform so that we could use their payment processor because as i'm sure you all know if

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you have to use a guy

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yeah well i was like

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you have to falling down

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that tempo

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hold on feel about it

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how do you

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feel about crypto

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i mean i i'm a fan of anything that just like allows for equal access and that's what's just been so frustrating is to see like erectile dysfunction ads haven't resulted in like pandemonium like it hasn't been this catastrophic thing and so they have a use case in their hands that like this isn't bad or evil and i think especially for me seeing how many sports betting and predictive markets like seeing just how much advertising there is for that without any like restraint and and we know statistically speaking that that creates a lot more harm but a but a vibrator is considered more harmful than you know draftkings and i just i i i struggle to understand that

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i have to go back a sec sorry i'm really bad at controlling my emotions and you got me all fired up last week when we first met i got all fired up about the power the social media platforms have and now we didn't even talk about the finances why would stripe but under what i understand from a social media perspective at least if you say there's regulation that we don't you know like that medical condition separate whatever i can not be happy with it but i can understand the logic what is the logic that stripe would have to not allow you to do payments

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well because stripe is still beholden to like the jpmorgan chase's of the world and those banks and institutions have this goes all the way you're not gonna believe this okay buckle up this goes all the way back to the nineties and january numbers and so it used to be that our industry had a really high chargeback percentage because what would happen is bill would come and it'd be like oh i never thought it wasn't me

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i never thought it was me

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i didn't know that

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the wife freaks out yeah so $14.99 a minute so yeah

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right so banks in the early to mid nineteen nineties started to categorize anything that falls within the category of sexual health and wellness into this really high risk

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so it's not a law it wasn't a like a law regulation it was just pure business decision

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these are all choices

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it was just

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a choice we don't want to serve you because of right

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there's nothing that we sell the only states that have laws are in in texas you cannot own more than three dildos that's a law we've done time

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yeah yeah yeah interesting

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and then in alabama in alabama i mean and there there are a lot of laws right now that are

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and i

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may never have moved to texas i'm gonna get arrested

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which is so weird like lawmakers put this on a book

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that's so funny and this is mhmm

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there's a really amazing historian named hailey lieberman who wrote a whole book about this and she started off doing kind of the tupperware at home like that was a really big model in like the early two thousands of like yeah

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early two thousand and nineties yeah yeah

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and and texas wrote the law to really address that where they're like we don't want these at home parties so if you have more than three dildos then you're considered you know and i mean those laws exist i i like when i went to i went to college in ohio there was a law that if there are more than five women living in a home it was considered a fraud

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yeah it was like that in dc it's like yeah

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yeah that's why

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we couldn't have a sorority yeah exactly yeah couldn't have a sorority

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so these laws still exist no one really pays attention to them but but but to answer that every single policy or every single like banning or inability for us to exist in an online or physical space is a choice it's not like and you know section two thirty i have so many conflicting feelings about it but it it you know on one hand it's the thing that allows the platforms to not be responsible for any of the content that they publish but they're not which which you know allows them to choose which users are and are not on the platform we did try to go back to your initial question we got like senator elizabeth warren senator amy klobuchar and representative adam schiff to cosponsor a formal complaint to the ftc where we were like this isn't under section two thirty because these aren't this isn't organic content this is the platforms as publishers as paid advertising they can't discriminate based on on gender and you know it was after it was it was like right we filed that i wanna say in around like 2020 and then like covid happened and it's just been it's just hard because the thing that pisses everybody off but nobody really wants to make it like the hell they wanna die on right and so we end up being relegated to the shadows just kind of like over and over again but it's not worse

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this is really interesting because this is very much the situation with the crypto industry like the there was choke point two point o where you know you could your whole just for transferring funds from a crypto exchange or something your bank could just shut your account down or or completely freeze it and or the companies that were doing business in the crypto industry couldn't get a bank account and that happened over and over and over again so that has been and then and it was the same thing for the cannabis industry before that so it's like mhmm it's it's not you know we we know this we've seen this but it's so i'm so surprised that that is still a situation for something like like sexual wellness like that is just bizarre to me that we're still here like that feels so puritanical

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i mean this illustration has really gone after specific terms and words one of our competitors i'm very good friends with the founder belaysa they had close to a million instagram followers and because they posted a diagram that include the word clitoris of like this is what your anatomy looks like and these are the terms for that anatomy their account was taken down with like no warning and there's nothing you can do unlike a a platform like this they i mean think about how much money that is just gone close to 1,000,000

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that's insane

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followers they had amazing engagement and this happens over and over again i knew of another company that was focused on they launched during covid for new moms who couldn't because you know we were all remote and breastfeeding and and learning how to breastfeed and so they launched this platform where they could match with a nurse who would walk them through how to breastfeed from home if you're a new mom they got banned from meta because they're you know when the nurse would get on a video conferencing call with the new mom there would be breast involved but it's just like a one to one situation they got they got kicked off of the platform because of that

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wow that's crazy

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and it's just like oh come on man like it's it's breastfeeding is like so innate to human existence yes it's

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yeah i mean if you're talking about especially if you're talking about family there's nothing more family oriented than that we do have a question in the chat is this specific to america i have a feeling in europe it's more about links to criminality money laundering and so on especially because things sex related are on the edge of criminality even in my very tolerant home come come country of the netherlands so are you do you see this i don't even know if you're selling in outside the us what are you are you having similar issues there as well

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we sell outside of the us but meta's policies are applicable to europe as well i mean it's a company headquartered in and so they're not gonna allow for like because it's interesting when we first tried to advertise they were like well we can't allow because there are countries in the middle east where this you know is considered so offensive that someone could be killed over it and i was like but you're mad at you have you have really a hypergeofence and and target so why would that be an issue but it is i i i do think that in europe they're much more like the the culture is much more accepting in the uk there are like multiple companies that have that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars that are in the sexual wellness space because they don't see the same level of like institutional like banking restrictions but you know i i i don't think that like like tiktok tiktok is the most conservative they don't even have condoms which is like you look at the rates of that's crazy and how like gonorrhea is back and and and all these things because people aren't using condoms and we don't only 12 states in the united states require sex ed to be medically and factually accurate which is in imagine saying that about math or science or it's like we only it's crazy we don't really like we teach it but we don't really require anything to be based in facts and it's just it's it's it's crazy to me that we that we want

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all of the condoms

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you're not gonna you're not gonna have a health class and you're definitely not gonna talk about condoms

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but that's

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changing that actually changed a little bit under pope francis they've changed a little bit with that because pope francis actually used to go around the barrios and i think it was in brazil when he was in rio or something or peru i think it was peru and he would actually hand out condoms so there was a little shift there but not not to the point of teaching it in school

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i don't know if i turn the camera

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still not dj at school yeah still not teaching at school

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the lessons on sexuality

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yeah not happening there

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it's it's it's really it's really unfortunate and you know the obama administration put forth this amazing law that said we're not doing abstinence only sex ed anymore if you wanna teach abstinence only which is basically bury your head in the sand policy of like sex doesn't exist they said would federal funding no more and then of course trump came in and was like no we want abstinence only yeah which is just such a disservice it's such a disservice because you know it's sexuality makes us all feel vulnerable and uncomfortable me included to talk about but there's no denying that we wouldn't exist without it and so it's like we have to find a way to have nuanced conversations about difficult topics instead of just pretending that this whole aspect of our lives doesn't exist

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i think i've seen you know i've never i never saw anything about menopause anywhere like discussed until very very recently and i went through menopause early because of a hysterectomy and that had to do with going back to your misdiagnosis and all that stuff years before they figured out what was going on with me and then having to have that done so then immediately right upon that happening you go into menopause like immediately and then you know that's that and there's treatment and stuff like that but it took you know there was not a lot of no one's talking about it like no one's having conversations

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i didn't know what it was once we

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went through it yeah i'm seeing it more now like even the freaking you know real housewives of rhode island talking about menopause on the last couple episodes ago and they're you know putting out a gummy and this and that and also a new law that i think it was about a year ago that came out in rhode island where menopause is now covered is by has to be covered as a like a illness that you can take time off for as part of any kind of you know employer etcetera so health protection and i think that and that came from two two women one who was of our you know of that age and it takes that and it takes you know women moving into places of power to actually be able to speak to the experience to say hey like this is what's going on this is a real thing we can't treat it like it's not you know an illness or something that you know people should be able to take sick time for if it's impacting them and to understand what's

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the side effects of the symptoms are insane i mean it's you know nights it affects your sleep it affects your body temperature like there are all these things i knew nothing i only knew the tropes about menopause when i when i went through it and i felt just like really embarrassed about the fact that i didn't know anything about it and then i started asking myself well why do i feel embarrassed about not knowing this like when would i have learned it who would have taught it to me nobody and it's crazy because half of the population is gonna go through it

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yeah because and and even mothers and grandmothers didn't talk about it like my mother didn't talk about it until until i had my own issue because there was stigma to it yeah yeah because you're no longer you're no longer a vibrant woman you're now a crone which is ridiculous at any age like that's ridiculous so it's yeah it's just not something that gets talked about at all but ed we can talk about that all day long

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and it's covered by it's covered by medicare it's got grandparents

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there you go and it's covered yeah yeah adrienne guys the chat's been chat's been popping adrienne any other questions or any and it's by the way the chat is pretty much all dudes and they're and they're and they're with

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you dudes

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they're with you

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thank you

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the dudes wanna know what

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yeah

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yeah what can they what what specific things can the dudes do to support you help you they said besides following on socials what what else

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yeah following on socials i would say just like honestly general awareness tell like one person tell tell one person about this because no nobody knows and if you're banned from from sharing information there's like no way to get it out there we you know famously took on like the new york subway system that wouldn't let us take out an ad despite the fact you know it's breast augmentation everywhere and it's like the limp cactus and then the erect cactus and so it's it's if you can just share general awareness that is that is the thing that matters and then if you if you know anyone in any of the policy departments that's is willing to have conversations like that's the thing that's the hardest is even just getting anyone to to sit at a table with us and and talk about their concerns and then allowing us to share our concerns because they're just they're terrified they're so scared that they're gonna be villainized for even approaching the topic and so it's been tough to know how to kind of like combat that because if they won't even talk to you it's hard to create progress for sure

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and when this episode obviously we're live right now you'll you'll see it on the recordings on twitter and and you youtube but also we'll have it everywhere and we'll have clips and you'll be able to share those as well and i'll be tagging us

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we'll see what happens when you guys share it it'll be i don't think

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we have a static retweet

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we'll be like our views will go down we're clicking yeah see what happens i'm really curious yeah i am actually kind of curious but i do want to clip the part where you're talking about stripe and i want to tag some friends we we know over there because i'd love to get their their thoughts as to what's going on there because that's really interesting so mhmm

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let's

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see what happens because i'm very curious and especially the so stripe now integrates crypto into there and i'm just really curious with that particular you know m m c is it mcp mpp the machine payments protocol like what if they have any limits there so just curious on on that part of it and we'll have to ask that question when we can when we can clip that up and we'll see what they have to say have you are you also over on x on twitter and have you had any issues there

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i i really have issues with grok i'm sorry if i'd upset anyone but 90% of deepfakes 90% of deepfakes are women and 90% of those are nonconsensual and pornographic in nature

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true

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story and i i 90%

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of them were generated by the idea or

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the the platform it's it's i i i we've struggled with twitter quite a bit in terms of just like finding our audience i guess maybe culture like culture yeah yeah yeah yeah

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understand that

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but it's it's definitely the most permissive of the social media platform that's what i was thinking sex workers that have built their entire business off of off of twitter but it's it's interesting because i actually know a lawyer who's like trying to bring us a case right now against section two thirty stating because like section two thirty is like we're not responsible for the content because we don't create the content but grok is kind of this gray area creating the content if grok is generating nonconsensual pornographic imagery that's not really the user that's that's creating it it's actually the ai

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right so it'll

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be it'll be interesting to see we need to get on whoever commented this we need to get on blue sky it's it's

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so that was my question too yeah it was my next question thing yeah yeah i would think blue sky would be a little bit more culture friendly but i have no idea from a perspective of their policies their policies i don't know i don't know if they're any different than others just because i haven't been i haven't been over there but that

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was a i think we've had some time recently

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i never and and haven't gotten super active yet

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yeah and mastodon i think probably doesn't have as large of reach but i think blue sky blue sky could be an option as well

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sometimes the platforms that are like the most protective in the way we want them to be are the ones that are actually the most restrictive when it comes to like bucketed in the same category as like onlyfans and like i'm pro sex work it's the oldest trade and job in the world it's existed since humanity has existed it should be it's not going anywhere yeah yeah same with the vibrant the vibrant was invented in the like late eighteen hundreds before the refrigerator air conditioner washing machine any modern appliance was sold in a sears four book catalog and then all of a sudden the stigma comes around and and everything changes but yeah that was a little bit of a ramble but it's it's it's tough to keep up with all the different social media platforms especially when they can deplatform you so easily it's it's hard to wanna invest in building that community

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understandable that's

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not not the case with this with this platform

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we'll tell you yeah with farcaster we have you know there's it's a it's a protocol so you can build multiple clients on top of the protocol and even if one of the clients bans you for some reason which rare it real only happens for scammers and and like bots like things that are you know unreal not real people i haven't seen it happen anyway you take your audience with you like you never lose your followers you can just move to a different client and you don't have to start over so that is the benefit of this type of approach to social media that you do have this different type of if you build it you can still you can still keep it so that that makes it worthwhile to at least dive in a little bit so yeah we should

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not have

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a petite that

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yeah they don't

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make a vibrator we should make a vibrator mini app on vini app with polly just to show her how the virus

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what what daddy okay we'll have to figure it out i don't know i don't know

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so we can make mini apps on farcaster so little games whatever different types of apps some of them are utilities some of them are games and things like that and anyone can make one so it's very easy to do and and adrienne can can tell you more about that but and

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then they share them on the feed and you get distribution for any sort of ideas a lot of them are made not to be like long lasting software like apps but

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just

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kind of of the moment fun little

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yeah

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like content to create

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but it's a we'll we'll chat the only other thing i wanted to ask you polly which is not about unbound but so we just we we we met last week at lunch and i obviously raf you can see why i wanted to bring her on because she's an incredible story and i loved what she was talking about but and then how farcaster fits in in terms of a platform where you can put on your audience so just you i saw you create an account was there anything what questions do you have about farcaster that you found confusing annoying weird or anything as you joined or

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i didn't find anything confusing or weird i think i think with all social media platforms and i don't know if that's what this is considered or not but it's so hard to like figure out who to follow who like what audiences to lean into and they're all like this is like no i don't think anyone's actually really really nailed it in terms it's like or what are you into and the topics are always so like generic that it's like i don't want like i like science but i don't wanna follow every single scientist on this platform so i think like discovery is always the thing that i like i struggle with on platforms and you know that feeling of just like can they all see me like what am i like you know like okay am i doing it right am i an idiot but i think i it does thus far it's very intuitive i like it a lot

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what do

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you think is the number one feature that more people should use on the platform that they don't

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we do have something called starter packs and that's kinda what you're talking about but i think they need a refresh and that's like here's here like if we could design something that was like just for you like here's who polly should be following like click and then you follow them all kind of thing and but they they don't get enough use and they're a little out of date so i think we'd need to go back and like check like the farcast her channel which was really active for a while which was you know mostly you know focused on women and issues around women that would be a good channel to follow but again it's not as active as it used to be so trying to like refresh some of those things would probably be something we should do over on farcaster yeah and it'd be easier for onboarding yeah

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yeah and i was gonna say unless you're like tiktok that spent a billion dollars on their algorithm and has infinite content like i think they're the only like if you they can get you in but we've struggled forecaster struggled figuring out how to onboard i think it is tough and i think we always talked about having sherpas like it's almost like you need a friend like you need to have someone to be like oh here holly go follow this person and and here and and it is that feeling of like the blank wall of like i don't really know what to post i don't know what like it it changes so i i have no answer but we'll and

67:25Speaker 0

i would say go and so everyone go follow unbound babes and comment on her first post and say you know say hi say gm tell her who you are especially if you saw her in here

67:37Speaker 2

you guys have such good engagement like that's the other thing is all these platforms are just full of bots and people that aren't

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real it's a yeah

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so we love vanity metrics whereas like you see the engagement in this this comment board and it's like you have a really engaged community

67:52Speaker 0

and these yeah there's a lot of somewhere else there's a lot of real people hanging out on this little tiny social network and it's you know waxed and waned over the over the past couple years in terms of size and we're probably in a smaller moment but the people you do find on there are real are real humans and and they're very interesting humans by the way so they're very interesting they're doing interesting things and so that that's what keeps us coming back for sure so we'd love to love to have you just you know hop in there once a day just say hi and tell us what you're doing and tell us what you're working on and you know just whatever's going on in your world yeah and that's it alright adrienne anything else before we no this is awesome

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i'll post a discount i'll post a discount code for the community

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that's great

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i'll make one up

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so love that love that thank you polly it's been so fun to have you here thanks thanks and thanks for everybody in the chat too for hanging out with something a little different today bye yeah bye volley bye volley that was awesome i really enjoyed that we do have so make sure you go follow unbound babes over on farcaster and any anywhere else you see them on your social media very cool and they have some great products so go check them out all right we have a few more things to chat about i gotta get my links open we've got some builder news going on per usual and for those who missed it we did talk about the droids if you missed that go back to the beginning we did talk about that

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and more to come about what the droids are from calankar also i'll get my links open couple things we have the next round of cef grants are going to be announced on thursday on gm forecaster we are going to be on at 08:30 a m eastern and we'll also announce our creator sprint grantees as well last chance you got about 20 a little less than twenty four hours twenty three hours or so to get your application in look at gm farcaster over on either twitter or farcaster for the application information looking for writers and video creators

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adrienne anything else on that while i'm getting these links open and you know what i thought was really funny when she mentioned banking like how many similarities there are to crypto was kind of crazy

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mhmm

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of like the same kind of stuff like it's the same kind of thing

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i just when we had our conversation last week it was just about the social media and about kind of advertising and i was like i i just found that really interesting yeah but it wasn't like the organic stuff is kind of arbitrary they're just choosing to not not totally and you know what they can do it you have no power against it right it was really the it was more the ads that were making me irate just because of the unfairness from the like not treating the sexes equally i don't know if you know that yeah something like that will is there's very few things i can get angry about but that's one

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it pushes my brain that's one

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that is one anyway

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but yeah it's it's so and it's so crazy like it doesn't make any sense it really doesn't it's it's just bizarre to me i just have an issue right

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it's just like in the when there's such a massive power

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live and let live

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imbalance yeah but if there's such a massive power imbalance between you and platforms like what are the things you can do to take back control and hence that's from forecaster owner identity ownership and and blockchain and then for the banks like what do you have it's crypto is the answer it's like it's the so

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yeah so i'm really curious i am very curious i'm clipping that part about stripe totally tagging our friend over at tempo and privy

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and

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answering the question here's

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the deal

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does that change anything i'm just really curious it doesn't

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and i

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bet it doesn't but i'm very curious to hear their their response

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i mean i think i see tempo as like the settlement layer it'll be cheaper cheaper settlement layer so you still are gonna go through credit cards and credit cards that they think there's gonna be a high chargeback fee can choose not to

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but they can also do but you can also do the machine you can also use agents and things like that

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to do direct payment as a crypto owner than yeah yeah as right business owner you can then say pay in crypto but then also why you don't necessarily need to choose to settle on tempo like why would you don't need you don't need that blockchain there's no

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you don't necessarily need that one but there's like there's other other ways to do that but could you still tap into that aspect of stripe i don't know anyway i found that very very interesting right yes exactly it makes sense when you realize old religious quirks flood into modern society without being updated scientifically yeah

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and also like all the stuff we know today as science someone in the future is gonna look back and be like look at those religious weirdos

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yeah and what they thought alright a few more things we had a great chat with gon from charms last week this was hannibal running and then i launched little gm so you can go check out charms and chat with them and also make memes and the memes are so freaking cute i love all the memes that people have been making with with my little pango and also this little guy will be also for my droid so i'm tying them both together doing a little experiment how cute is that for you isn't that cute so charms has been been but it did say like it didn't say farcaster it said far far something far something i forget far chat or something like that so anyway very cute and love what charms is doing so if you haven't checked it out yet go watch our interview with gone and check out charms ai's new mini app or go to charms.ai this from minted merch have you ever wanted to design and order your own custom merch now you can write in their minted merch a mini app introducing the minted merch design studio v one five different products to choose from t shirts hoodies hats bandanas and pet collar bandanas upload an image from your camera roll or url use your pfp or pull images in directly from cas using the share extension crop rotate and or remove the background from your images before generating mock ups mint moguls receive three background removals per day share your designs and let anyone buy your creations merch mint merch moguls earn 1,000,000 minted merch every time someone buys one of their creations claimable automatically in the mini app you save 15% off your first order on minted merch and 15% off all orders if you stake 50,000,000 plus minted merch to become a merch broker mogul disclaimer this is a b one and there will be bugs please reach out to savage directly with any issues or suggestions what will you create and a little note yes you do need to make sure you have copyrights to do that that it is your work or something cco so if you see any issues with that just tag savage and let him know and they are checking things as they go through the studio as well and i had a request for a brackie hat which i need to order and this is tldr i'm not crying you're crying and we did ask if we could do it before before

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and we're all crying

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tim we're

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all crying we're all crying

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i'm totally ordering this hat love it love it love it i was that was a specific request to mint and merch from me and with tldr's blessing so i'm excited to get a brackie hat moving on this from nikki sapp i have no idea if this works and it's probably buggy as absolute hell but if you're by your desktop right now click this shit it's game.wowwow.social and it is a it's world of warpcast i have not tried this yet i have heard people talking about it that it's really fun so go give this a run looks like it's a fun fun little game this from maisie flynn building a game that retains players extremely hard building a live service game i e competitive multiplayer game with constant updates like defense of the agents is even harder but i'm proud of the work i've done so far and i've learned an insane amount i've only been able to update and iterate this game so much because of player base keep that keeps coming back day to day day after day they're constantly suggesting new features qol changes balance patches etc through this constant iteration i've learned what makes a game actually fun and engaging it is very trivial to build a game nowadays but to build a good one is not easy and will keep getting harder in my opinion as the barrier of entry to game dev gets lower and lower i want to take a real stab at bringing this game mainstream i e scaling to thousands of users my existing player base inspires me and fees from dota allow me to keep pushing they say if you do what you love you never have to work a day in your life and i just love that so if you haven't played defensive agents you should go check it out it's really fun and you can play it right in the mini app and it's awesome so give it a try i think he's gonna be doing some tournaments as well soon i believe so look for those this from our friend joan westenberg kerouac my writing app is coming out of beta it is a new way to build a publishing habit not a writing habit specifically publishing you can connect to your substack medium ghost etcetera and get a live graph of your publishing streak analytics on how many words you've published month by month and subscribe to other writers to see their latest pieces on every platform where they publish it's $8 a month $60 a year so if writing and writing is your thing go check that out very cool this from abraham from splits full network support for polygon went live yesterday morning bsc last night tempo inbound transactions coming today brings full network support to 10 and they just keep shipping like if you haven't tried splits yet if you have a crypto based company you may want to check this out just reach out to the splits team reach out to abraham or w on farcaster to learn more and we love it it has been like perfect for us really has especially with the recent grants with the cef we're able to capture like the tax information we needed the compliance like it's been perfect and then just send out to all the grants it would have taken us so much longer to do this and even even with that it took a little bit but it's been amazing so really appreciate that team and they are just constantly shipping this from jacek for thousands of years people have had opinions but they've never been able to monetize them until now start questing in pov so something new from the degen team and go check this out have not checked this out yet gonna be honest haven't haven't made it over there yet if you have and you're in the chat let us know but always love to see when jacek's shipping something new trying something new so go check it out all right and this far far necked oops i know why i had that there this is from calberith hello i'm hoping far neck mini app can get a shout on gm farcaster there you go if you have ever played connections on new york times that is what this is so go check it out if you like those types of word games where you're trying to figure out the category that's what farnecked is so go check that one out lots of word games on farcaster lots and lots this from sayangel sharing some alpha here before i go to x with it i'm a sucker for composability and permissionless permissionless on chain building so so i've been really excited by what zenny mark carey and zero x fran are cooking with warplet gobbler if you don't know what it is check out the graphic to inject some fun into the experiment last night i routed all the warplets opensea royalty fees 1% to the warplet gobbler auction this will increase the stream rate so that the pot for selling warplets into the gobbler grows faster they're already gobbled up over 100 warplets which covers a daily warblet auction for three plus months already let's gobble up some warblets and see what happens i don't fully understand this but we talked about it last week it looks cool sell your warbler to the gobbler people bid on the daily gobbled warbler winner gets transformed gobbled warbler and original warbler so there you go i guess that's the simple simple explanation just fun things this is from kenny because kenny never stops shipping right now mhmm kenny is on a tear gm i've just boosted cool hats bounty with 25 usdc from our cef farcaster activation grant record a video showing where you farcaster from for a chance to win visit a famous landmark iconic location local favorite or unique spot in your city and record a short video in your in your video say this is for farcaster tell us where you are share why that place is meaningful interesting or special to you so very cool go check that out and lastly this just popped up this morning you can now sign in to the tortoise web app with farcaster and eo eoa wallets normal crypto wallet apps you can link one farcaster account one base account and up to 10 wallets to your tortoise account all uploads and collections from any linked wallet will show up under your unified tortoise profile yes this means your friends without farcaster can collect your songs send them some links so that is very cool matt lee keeps shipping alright and that's it awesome splitz is awesome okay splits is awesome alright it's been fun folks thanks for being with us very newsy we had a great interview if you missed any of that you'll be able to find it in all our recordings as long as they don't get taken down we're about to find out we're about to find out some things

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so when we we know that when we have like when we curse on the show that youtube youtube doesn't like it they don't take it down but they won't doesn't get pumped as much like it doesn't yeah we get fewer views especially on like shorts or like i i think like more of our shorts start to get fewer eyeballs on them

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this must be an interesting experiment

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it will be interesting i don't think i dropped too many f bombs i did today i think a little bit but not too many but we did we did talk about something else and we'll see if if we get impacted

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yeah it's gonna be an interesting experiment

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will only make me angrier

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i'm really glad that twitter came back up so that we were able to to go live there because so at least we know we captured a larger live audience and hopefully recording recording audience will be able to hear this as well alright everybody eds brackey lives on forever we miss brackie i miss the bot more than the game more than the actual like mini app i miss i miss like just i don't know i liked brackie i liked his i liked his personality he was a friend

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he was

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a friend i miss him alright everyone we will be back on thursday at 08:30am eastern and we will have about halfway through the show we will have our grants announcements after the news for the next round of cef this is gonna be a little bit smaller round because we did a pretty big one last month and we haven't seen all the results of that just because you know it took us a while to get funds out to everybody and get people rolling so we haven't had a chance to really evaluate how all that went so this will be a little bit of a smaller round but we still have a pretty sizable group that we're going to be giving grants to also we'll be announcing our creator sprint winners who will be doing some writing and some video creation and that's it so we will we will see you then anything else adrienne before we sign off nope all righty that's it everybody we'll see you thursday bye bye

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thanks for joining us for this episode of gm farcaster and thank you to all our partners and hyper sub supporters bringing this episode to you follow the gm farcaster channel for all the latest updates and add our mini app on farcaster and the base app until next time bye bye