Transcript: GM Collateral Damage and The Base App Reckoning: GM Farcaster ep376

adrienne, nounishprof · GM Farcaster

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step on my team see 32 yeah so adrienne i was thinking we should maybe consider a rebrand i have two choices i was about to put a snap up didn't get a chance so i'm thinking either disintegrated completely or gm collateral damage i don't know if you have a preference or

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we're oh

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we're not

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my sub stack isn't isn't working today for some reason

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did you just see that

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yeah i'll get it yeah it's no it's everything else is fine

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subtech has dissented

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disintegrated collateral damage over there completely completely yeah so we've got a lot to talk about before we get into the collateral damage of it all we are going to do some news and we're gonna talk about what's happening on farcaster and clankr and we're also going to shout out some builders who are building some cool things on a little something called base mostly and yeah so we're gonna do those things and then then we're gonna talk about a little something that happened yesterday it's got my i'm a little i'm a little fired up a little activated and i thought i

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thought and i

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am not would calm me down

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it did not we were just so people know we were together yesterday and we we saw jesse's tweet together at the same time and it's interesting we have different reactions

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yes very i think yeah i'm i'm in the scorched earth department adrian's gonna i just i did cast when you said you had thoughts as well i said hers are gonna be a lot more thoughtful and measured probably than mine

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but that's why there's that's why there's two of us

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that's why there's two of us

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and there's no right or wrong

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she's gonna be the calmer of the two i guarantee it but before that we are gonna get started with a little intro and we'll be back so if you are watching this on farcaster or youtube or twitter go give it a retweet give it a recast give it a reex whatever you wanna call it and we'll be back on the other side of this forty one seconds

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welcome to gm farcaster bringing you everything from breaking news to spicy memes to the deep lore shaping this vibrant digital community more than just a show gm farcaster is your digital third space where the community connects the stories unfold and the culture thrives whether you're a daily caster or just dropping by we've got the latest buzz to keep you plugged in so grab your coffee and let's dive in with your hosts manish proff and adrienne for another episode of gm farcaster

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gm farcaster it is thursday july 16 and you are here with now to profiting adrienne for twenty nine minutes of farcaster to start your day plus some really fun commentary after that

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i feel like we might need to reverse the order and get this out because i don't know if you're gonna be able i don't know if you're gonna be able to do the news

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i can i absolutely can i'm just getting things pinned and retweeted

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yeah yeah hold on come say g m alright okay here we go we are gonna start with news we do have things going on in in the in the world and in the world of farcaster that we need to shout out so we're gonna start there and then we'll get into the rest here we go where am i here we are this from you but quoting simon taylor stripe and advent have bid more than 53,000,000,000 to take paypal private that is crazy and we know that stripe has been working towards an ipo and a lot of what they've been doing lately is related to crypto payments so very interesting i'd be curious to see what happens here if they are able to do that takeover very interesting yeah in the farcaster news oh sorry did you wanna say something about that

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nah

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okay

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go read simon's tweet he had a great little summary but

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yeah i

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mean pay paypal's valuation if you just look over the years has really just tanked and there's been a few kind of attempts and he's just talking about like the mess that is paypal yeah in terms of like the operational mess like it's just kind of layers of acquisition on acquisition the systems are convoluted like it's not a clean fold in but they have the distribution the paypal button everywhere like work so and while stripe is really focused on kind of the on the

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irl

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on the vendor side yeah but just paypal is such a consumer front like it's so so it's interesting i'm a huge fan of simon he writes a weekly fintech newsletter an excellent writer and i don't know if you know this but he went over to temple so when they

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were did they

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yeah yeah it was so when they were creating their team and i was like oh they you

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know interesting yeah that's interesting great and i i mean you can just tell well paypal started in the nineties so it was the earliest of internet money and they there's a lot of you know like legacy crap

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yeah yeah

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that's just hiding under there from a systems perspective so it makes a lot of sense that they need they need to yeah modernize and this would be an interesting way to do it alright moving on what this is from the farcaster intern what the devs are working on this week a lot we could just sum that up as a lot but i'll read it wallet adding robinhood chain to the wallet it is added you can now swap and do transactions on robinhood now in the farcaster wallet i assume that means you can also well i'm not positive about that but i would think you could build many apps and things now as well probably i would think but i'm not positive on that so check my check my work on that spaces recording and playback in final review plus fixes for speaker invite drops in rooms ending early protocol iterating on the channels fip based on community feedback feed quality rolling the neynar score out across replies notifications profiles to replace the old spam labels which that'll be really helpful a lot of people have been wanting that trading refining limit orders and smarter trading trade routing for better prices translations now working on the notifications page clanker building the v five sdk working through security audit follow ups so that is imminent snaps more feed visibility and design improvements also back to clanker in case anyone missed it you can launch on robinhood on clinker now so that rolled out before v five but they were gonna wait but that has rolled out so it is ready and waiting for you known issues we're working on not an exhaustive list just what the intern has seen the most of sign in still having some issues some users still getting signed out repeatedly on mobile top priority actively working on wallet scattered token issues wrong balances swaps failing on bsc limit orders failing at certain buy sell percentages and going back to wrong balances if you checked in this morning you were a billionaire for something i forget what bizarre token was in there today mobile app freezing force closing when opening a dm on ios android fix and review some videos upload but won't play on web quotecast video layout bug fixed android dragging inside a snap scrolls the feed behind it fix in review and first tap side menu bug fixed feed replies sometimes not showing on a thread with no show more replies option many apps firefox sometimes needs a page refresh before many apps load current mobile vision is mobile version is v two point one point one one five five eight and if you think the intern missed anything drop it in the replies and let them know and i did update my app today because there was an update that was put update that was pushed out so if you don't have auto update on legamy go do that purple rain is ready for clanker airdrop claims on robinhood chain but i don't think the broadcaster wallet is now it is so there you go so if you're airdropping on robinhood through purple rain now it's ready for claiming on the wallet or it should be i shouldn't speak for mvr but mvr it's ready for you to do whatever you need to do on your end if you need to do anything this from farcaster intern f a faq fip channels on snap chain two seven six you had a lot of good questions so yes this is long i am not gonna read all this but we will have this very long post with all your questions regarding the channels fip which is channels going to the on chain layer this will be in our show notes holy crap it is long so you can read it and also the fip itself over on github there's a link to that as well so you can add any other additional feedback before this goes and i believe yes today's thursday tapo count and the farcaster intern are going to be on a farcaster space today talking about the this as well as anything else related to protocol i think that was at 1pm eastern maybe or was it 1pm pt it's 1pm i just don't remember if it was et or pt and i didn't pull that one today so if you

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can check

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let me know

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yeah 1pm pt 4pm

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pt 4pm eastern okay

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and if you go to the farcaster app and go to the spaces section anything scheduled you'll see a listing and you can set a reminder like to get notified there you go

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oops so upcoming there we go that would have been a good way for me to do it i didn't think of that so there you go and back so i don't lose that alright moving on

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this from rich over on twitter and i'm not gonna read this whole thing but i'm gonna read a little bit of it the thing people think clinker is and the thing we are actually trying to build are pretty different most people know it as a meme coin launchpad that's accurate for today the bigger direction is closer to infrastructure that makes tokenizing any kind of asset straightforward meme coins now real world assets regulated regulated instruments creator markets asset classes that have never had a liquid market before eventually the reason i think this can work comes from watching nayanar what worked for nayanar was making the underlying layer reliable and cheap enough for builders to keep experimenting with different products and use cases we think clinker will follow a similar path he goes on to talk more about that and a big part of the real world asset piece of this will be the b 20 integration which is coming soon as well so very cool

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we did a little surprise i like richard's football cast better much shorter they're much shorter insights richer we're gonna roll out something new to our hyper sub supporters more coming on this later today i didn't get a chance to put this out yet but we did start with our biggest hyper sub supporter which is yes to crypto and we gave him the power to tag warpy to curate casts and i believe he did actually so he now has the power we'll be rolling it out to some other folks as well and you'll have an opportunity to join the fun so more on that on monday but congratulation yes to crypto get curating so and this is my little warpy in in yes to crypto hanging out and the cat looks a little happy in this one as opposed

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to as

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opposed to a scroup like scowling yeah

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right like if it doesn't look like yes to crypto in the picture

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yeah looks too happy he's actually the happiest guy too so it's really funny that his totally that his pfp is like looks like he's pissed

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then just in totally funny news this is from adrienne grow your own grow your own lettuce easiest way to avoid the diarrhea causing outbreak of summer twenty twenty six so this was your response to gm lettuce caster also from bricks bounty hazy skies at 1pm today so you can go to your local farmer they're safe so go go visit bricks bounty and if you're if you're up this way and then this funny meme these salads are trying to murder me

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jenna rizzolich

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hilarious trying to murder me we also have some builder news i just need to get this ready and make sure these links are open i had a lot of links today i don't know it's a lot going on this completely disintegrated social network

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oh my god do not offend

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she

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yeah will not

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yeah no i'm gonna have a hard time letting this go sorry i'm i'm really annoyed we'll get to that hold on i just need to get all these other things open come on open for me please

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but we do have a lot going on there's a lot of builders doing some cool stuff right now and we have some things that are coming through the cef that are finally coming to fruition we have other builders just building really cool shit and let me start with this and i'm just gonna let this roll we're not gonna have the sound on just just because that causes me issues but this is flannel donut showing off her really incredible space that is very cool

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and we shared flannel donut was just in dc was she in right with yeah with stan with crypto

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what's that

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flannel donut no key i was saying while it's playing i was trying to

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yeah she was just in dc talking about what she's building with the people who are deciding on the clarity act act and showing like real world builders are doing cool stuff this is the space that they are building in portland that's gonna be both a web three and web two space with all kinds of cool stuff and stop motion studio and all kinds of really really cool things follow flannel donut she's gonna be sharing this stuff every day of what they're building and it's really cool so we were talking to her about maybe even farcon portland what do you think if you wanna see farcon portland let us know i support i support farcon portland alright moving on this from minted merch design studio contest winners we're excited to announce the winners of the first ever minted merch design studio contest we've got edouard messmer jellyfish and talus guy congratulations and huge thank you to everyone who participated the creativity effort and passion behind these submissions exceeded our expectations and helped make this contest a success and you can see who won what everything is now available in the minted merch app these are limited edition t shirts and designs so if you want to get them move fast and then every item purchased during this limited drop earns the winning artist an additional 5,000,000 in minted merch dollar sign minted merch so grab yours while supplies last and support the creator very cool this made possible by the clanker ecosystem fund by the way so very cool and then this from atown hello everyone we have taken trimerge out of maintenance mode there were there are still some known bugs like notifications not rooting to you to the right place in the app and our agent not being up and running yet but we would love for you guys to start using it again and feeding me issues you're facing so we can prioritize them thank you dennis farf and adrienne for choosing us for clinker grant so we could get the app back back and running so let's get some more emerge fun on the timeline which i need to take my own advice i haven't been over there yet so i will this from alaskan magpie which i need to follow gm farcaster putting together the launch campaign for my upcoming token launch putting out the call for collab partnership prizing i'd love to show off your project in the great cart hunt as well anybody up for finding loot caches with your mercenary crew across the galaxy some have in game prizing some have limited edition fable boy skins some have prizing directly from other sponsors you never know what you'll find and it's always free to play and then tagged a bunch of folks you actually met with alaska magpie about and got a little demo can you talk a little more about like what he's building with fable boy and we're hoping to get him on to do a demo

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yeah we'll get him on i was blown away because i i don't know if you remember when he first came on a forecaster intern i think recasted him to show off because they were pretty impressed with some of the stuff and he showed what he was building and i looked at it and i was like i have no effing idea what i'm looking at it was like a galaxy like a three d galaxy thing and i was like i don't understand this because i'm old and not a gamer and don't like it just like i was like

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it looks like thing yeah

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but i got on a call with him i'm like look i can appreciate builders without understanding what you're doing but he gave me a little demo he's building this super cool arcade experience kind of

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like with a nod to old game boy but let's cool not game boy but not game boy like if you

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like with no trademark infringement whatsoever

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there's zero even like resemblance to a game boy but the idea of like a nod to old school kind of old school gaming

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yeah at the era

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but yeah thanks to fable because like you know he was able to use the three d gaming engines so like it is a full like fully immersive arcade experience

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cool

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and so what he so i just was i thought it was just super cool the way he was showing like he's able to i don't know i i was really impressed but what he's asking here is like for forecaster collabs so like as you're walking through the arcade you know you can imagine like there was so much real estate for showing

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oh cool

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different brands inside and kind of making i don't know it just it felt very so oh we should probably talk to him about getting gm forecaster yeah

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in there

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like a g m like a karaoke corner oh why didn't we do that

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interesting we should do that that'd be fun and he's also gonna be launching a token on flanker sometime soon but that's coming i think after launch of the actual gaming platform so but that will be used within the gaming system for like skins and things like that so very cool go check it out this is from kojo a few months ago the ponder team started building dreamwork a platform for tech workers to get interviews as quickly as humanly possible you just drop a resume in pick from up to 800 matches we generate custom applications you review edit and hit submit our concierge handles the rest it's a blend of high quality submissions and removal of busy work and we made a special fc promo so go check this out if you're interested and very cool very very cool kojo this was something he was working on with his significant other his his wife

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his spite project yeah his spite project yes and i think he did say he got his first he's got paying people already so

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awesome

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congrats yeah

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very cool very very cool so go check it out this from jake hoodie featured by farcaster on x which is weird and robin and shane so there you go all all the weirdness happening

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on the just say

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like just weirdness like it's the honey honey which is on robinhood chain featured by

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which was launched on banker

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over on x which is on banker it's not even launched on clinker

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it's launched on banker on robinhood promoted on x by the bar guest team i love it so people try to make everybody you know tribal and we just want forecaster

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we just want everybody to succeed if you've been building on forecaster forever especially we want you to succeed in whatever you're doing so there you go this from ten x chris good ad tech adrienne

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thank you

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so this was he was commenting on the getting your project mentioned on gm farcaster and how it works and he likes it so there you go and we have some shout outs that we're gonna do in just a moment but i wanted to talk more about it because you added wanna get a shout out on gm farcaster but don't have an agent to set it up for you i can do it for you this is from warpy warpy.eth over on farcaster here's how it works reply below or tag me so just tag warpy dot eth there's two warpies warpy.eth and ask me to book you a shout out i'll ask you for the shout out text and then i'll send you a wallet address for you to send 5 usdc to once you confirm the payment has been sent i'll get the shout out booked this is perfect for a birthday wish congrats sending a gm to a friend or sharing a quick project update any questions just ask and as with any new feature adrienne will monitor for any issues and will refine the rough edges there

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probably will be a few rough edges few rough edges but that's why

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few rough edges and before i get to the shout outs you also have been shipping recently the gm cards personalized cards with badges to celebrate our community a public api anyone can call to access a gm forecaster knowledge base costs half a cent using x four zero two and mpp a public api anyone can call to book a shout out on our show costs $5 using x four zero two and mpp or now you can tag banker also you can go through banker banker has the skill or you can tag warpy on farcaster so lots of ways to do that now cef pages with updated info on gm farcaster's website word a day gameplay for x word a day daily email subscriptions in progress coming soon a website redesign for no nonprofit i'm a board of final edits and preproduction for the children's book i've been working on which i got to see yesterday a lot of fun it's beautiful can't wait to get a final version and then personal front getting kid number two ready for college i'm getting kid number one and only ready for college as well summer traveling she's gonna be taking some time off so we're gonna have some days off in august as well as some guest hosts just fyi she picked tennis lessons up again i don't know why it's like the worst thing you should be playing pickleball at this point come on

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i'd play pickleball give me a racket

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i think we're right i get it i've been neglecting my writing as well but mine's been neglected for over a year and i've really been thinking i need to get back to it and substacked and you should yeah you should take this cast and write it as your journal entry you should with some photos also yesterday we did our little off-site which was a lot of fun and we went to a spa so that was good we needed it and even at the spa i got i got pissed off which is funny it's funny alright we're gonna do some shout outs and then we'll get to the last bit of fun on our agenda just need to get that open as well but i'll let that open while we do this let me add this to the stage we've got some shout outs oh what happened oh no hold on what happened to my i can read it from my wait a minute oh i just need to do this that's why hold on i got it nope i got it here we go so these are our shout outs that were purchased either by x four zero two or mpp but no mpp yet or through warpy or through bankr so the first one is from farpot and we did i checked this by the way we checked this with the megapot team just to confirm it was legit it works etcetera etcetera so thank you pl for getting back to me and just confirming that so that we made sure we weren't like shouting out something that didn't work or etcetera okay go ahead

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okay this is from farpot farpot is a farcaster mini app for buying and gifting mega pot lottery tickets on base 1 usdc per ticket daily drawings in app claim of winnings play or gift a ticket without leaving your feed farpot.vercel.app my you can

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just use the mini app

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you can

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use the mini app yeah as well yeah

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that my which i assume that's the url to the mini app yep my commentary is i when i opened up the website the bottom line says that the website was built and is maintained by an agent yeah so i am wondering did this agent also permissionlessly buy him his own shot his our agents are all dudes right there's no women agents

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i don't know why

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sexist are

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could be

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i guess there have to be but serious lady i don't know alexa but i don't know all the agents i call them men anyway this agent i wanna know if they did the shout out on their own or if they had a human directing it

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yeah i'm very curious as well so let us know farpot was it you was it your was it your your overlord we wanna know

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we

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have two more shout outs and these are fun so this was our first via warpy we love gm farcaster from capex and capex we love you and that was booked via warpy booking awesome and then the next one go ahead you can read this one

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okay so this is a message for say angel so yes someone purchased a shout out oh it's a yes to crypto yes to crypto purchased a shout out through banker specifically for say angel so to say angel thank you for the warplets they made farcaster fun for many people and i enjoy the ongoing new things it explores

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there you go oh that's funny agent male adrienne female

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and jacek shout out to you i'm about to talk about you in a second gm glad you're here so very cool i was i was excited to see the new like folks doing shout outs that are fun you know that are just like these are just fun and not necessarily

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you know something that requires

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you don't it doesn't have to be a project

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it doesn't have to be

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a project yeah and just fun literally guys tag warpy hey warpy book me a shout out warpy dot eth hey warpy dot eath on farcaster book me a shout out on gm farcaster and he you can do it all through the feed and he will take care of all the the hard parts

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right

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and i hope to see people have fun with it

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yeah i do as well so have some yeah have some fun it doesn't have to be anything super serious and i love that we got two that were just fun

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like if you have thoughts about let's say the face app or social disintegrating you could and you want us to read it you could shout that out you could ask would be and we'll read it

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it's good jesse if you'd like to respond to what i'm about to say

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oh on x bar zero two jesse yes

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there you go

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that would be

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so cool alright we're ready here we go

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i'm still upset when no one's done it on tempo by the way i literally dm dan i'm like can you just somebody like we know dan and horseback can someone do it on tempo

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somebody

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and i think they're not interested because it's not serious enough i don't know

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i don't know

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someone do it

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i think they're just not paying attention they're busy alright i am gonna read this i am gonna add my commentary in because if i hold it to the end it's just gonna be crazy so i'm gonna say things as i go along but this is from jesse we will have the full post without my commentary in the show notes you can also find it by just going to just it's everywhere it's literally everywhere and everyone's talking about it so you can find it everywhere so this from jesse pollock of base yesterday lots of conversations about base over the last week wanted to share my candid take after a week of listening and a lot of reflection over the last six months first off in case it's not obvious the first quarter of twenty twenty six was a punch in the face yeah sorry and and i going to start this i know i'm gonna say some things it might sound a little rough but also i appreciate jesse for everything for putting himself out there out front building in public for everything he's done with base over the past three years two and a half years whatever it's been three years and like the work that he's put in and the fact that he's willing to put himself out there is massive so props for that let's continue i spent 2024 and 2025 making a two pronged bet to bring base to the world one builders would unlock the next wave of crypto adoption two adoption would be driven by new on chain native social experiences creators content messaging in my opinion we made the right bet on builders but obviously the wrong bet on social okay this is where you lose me because first of all you're literally writing this on a social platform and literally every single thing that has happened in crypto since the beginning of time has had some kind of social aspect whether it was somebody telling you hey you should go check out bitcoin you should go read this the freaking bitcoin was launched on a listserv that was the first discussion of bitcoin was on a freaking listserv okay so let's just establish that crypto is by nature social okay let's continue builders did drive the next wave of crypto adoption especially builders on farcaster for base's volume which is about 70% i would guess could go directly or indirectly back to farcaster builders i'll discuss that more in a moment

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prediction markets perpetuals stablecoins but social was not at the center of it prediction markets are inherently social so that makes no sense whatsoever by the way so are perps to some extent because you're getting social indicators as to what to buy in the perps market because of news which you find normally on social platforms okay continue on stablecoins is the only thing that i agree with on that point and that's payments except for the fact that you're making payments oftentimes due to social indicators that you see and if you need some you know need to fully understand that just jump on instagram or tiktok where you will be like inundated with things to buy and that you'll all of a sudden wanna buy things that you don't even need very social moving on but social was not in the center of it in fact the entire social side of the market that many of us have been building towards farcaster zora mini apps and yes creator coins disintegrated completely that is in case you're wondering why i said we might rebrand to disintegrate it completely i was wrong whether it was timing wrong is anselm a creator coin or fully wrong only time will tell but regardless i was definitely wrong okay jesse you're wrong about zora and creator coins 100% agree with you there and told you that like from day one and we had many conversations about that about how i thought that bet was wrong i've also have dms which i would love to even you know remind him of but i can't because they've been taken out of the base app about this specific thing when he was pushing point that there were people on the base team pushing zora over other platforms other launch platforms that it didn't make sense and it was very frustrating so i was in those dms going hey what about clanker what about banker what are you doing why just zora so frustrating the problem was not farcaster and many apps and the builders who brought all that to you the problem was the full on 100% bet on zora and content coins and creator coins and thinking that absolutely everything needed to be on chain that was the bet the bet had nothing to do with farcaster that was a method by which you were pushing the zora content out that was it and the social graph when you're talking about the ansem as a creator coin how did ansem get people to buy his coin let let me let's take a guess here twitter telegram his group chats things that are social because otherwise you're gonna launch a coin into the ether and no one's gonna buy it so it's all inherently social so this is where you lose me by the way elon's been trying to build in x money for like years now because he knows that's true so of course it's social okay let's continue on the collateral damage again this is where we're getting the second rebrand possibility of gm collateral damage because high collateral damage here the collateral damage was pretty bad and this year has been an exercise in eating shit and i sorry about that jesse because that does suck and you are an incredible builder and an incredible leader it's just unfortunate that you made a really bad bet and that bet was zora and content coins we realized how our focus on social content coins had meant that base had fallen behind in key areas that were now increasingly critical we had perps shout out adventist and prediction markets shout out limitless but both were well behind scale competitors pausing there again why didn't you just build in hyper liquid and polymarket that is i'm i'm really confused about that that's what rainbow did that's where i use it because it works really well and why wouldn't you do that i don't know there was really no need to build it in completely you could have just taken a percentage of that and we had a lot of room to improve in unlocking base as a platform for tokenization and payments that really worked for enterprises people lost confidence and ct spectators yeah ct spectators are what driving this thanks story guy reminded me weekly of all my mistakes as often as they could it felt bad man still feels bad also yeah you're spectators if you're spectators and you're not actually building anything honestly shut up like please like you've been like hitting this man over the head constantly this is the first thing i think we've said out loud i've said a lot in directly to jesse about this very nicely but like this crap that you see on ct just to get clicks is really annoying it is not weird

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right and this is the difference right between the different cultures like on farcaster crew people were not super into creator coins but what do we do anyway we tried them it was like okay try it before you have an opinion yeah and we all did like we bought into coins we were coining content we were going back and forth between baseapp and farcaster but then we are not going to give the like the like the but we weren't going we weren't also going

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all in we weren't all going all in on creatorpoints and we all were kinda pushing back like hey this doesn't fully make sense to us and we got a we got a lot of we you know that hurt us honestly from the base perspective of we didn't weren't getting as much support and many other builders because we weren't one we weren't a 100% behind that meta because we knew it wasn't it didn't make sense and it wasn't a good idea

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yeah

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so we we were i

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actually do feel my maybe i got a maybe it's maybe it's too soon for my feelings but the

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in in terms of show too

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in terms of collateral damage like for listen base was like hey we're gonna bring in a million new users everyone on farcaster wanted that mhmm so at no one was saying no base don't launch on farcaster like we

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just didn't we didn't like the it was the the content coin insanity that and the push of it the push of it

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protocol world right it shouldn't even have mattered right because you can have multiple apps like let base experiment and do their thing

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like yeah but putting it like as your as your full on only focus ended up killing a lot of builders or at least they couldn't they couldn't you know that was

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the problem well that is the collateral damage because at launch

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that was the first level too yeah

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it was like too big of a launch like it was kind of building incubating in this in a different arena than you're launching to and then when you launch you didn't bring everybody along no and it was a massive backlash and yeah it sucks

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and then there's also i had multiple conversations with base team members about what we were working on and getting trying to get support and it was just like unless you're doing and the and the comments back were always you should use creator coins and content coins and on and i'm like that doesn't make sense for us it doesn't make sense for us and that's when we were still using pods pot collateral damage talk about collateral damage like massive and i was on a panel with with lucas from pods talking about that at east denver in 2025 like we were sitting there on a panel talking about this very thing

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right and both base and forecast our old team merkel old team would ask us to do things because they're trying to like so experiment dan was really into the clipping i was like you gotta do go all on

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a clip

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they were doing vertical video for a minute and and then jesse was trying to say put your coin your clips yeah we weren't necessarily against it but it was like you can't just immediately react and kind of and i'm glad we didn't yeah go all in because no and but yeah but it's we definitely suffered like we definitely didn't

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you know clips make sense in in on on any platform but they don't make sense necessarily for content coings it didn't make sense at all especially when we're doing three or four clips a day like it does not make sense it's oversaturation so it never made sense okay let's continue okay but if there's one thing i've learned from the last decade of building in this space it's that when things feel the worst the best thing to do is just put your head down and build so that's what i'm doing i'm refo i refocused my time and attention back to the chain away from the app started writing code again shipped a bunch of stuff azul beryl b 20 privacy ledgers privacy comma ledgers and questioned a bunch of my assumptions does crypto need social to grow yes yes

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yes it does literally on a social network like like

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you're on a social network putting this out here

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maybe he needs this crypto need crypto social to grow by the way i wanted to actually have i anyway okay

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yeah

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but i

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we'll jump back to that yeah does does base need an app that's an excellent question can base be bigger than coinbase probably not but also one of the other things conversations that i had with jesse at one point was hey have you looked at zappr in the way that they're integrating which now is gone but the way they were integrating the farcaster social graph to me that made the most sense for coinbase not cointink coins but like let me see what my friends are trading like that's how i get signal that's what makes sense not not it was like that was so obvious to me and i i said that to him at base camp continuing on

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oops here we are here we are i thought for a long time that social was the only thing that could drive the sort of viral growth to get crypto to a billion people yeah it it literally is because that's the only way they're gonna hear about it unsurprisingly i now believe that's wrong it's not it's clear that better money is more than enough it's not we are seeing this live with stablecoins predictions perpetuals tokenization and i only expect it to accelerate three of those things have social components to them stablecoins is the only thing and again if you bring in payments and you bring in what people buy then it does have a social component to it i am now focused on bringing a billion people on chain just by making global finance actually work sure that's a big part of it absolutely but if you don't have anywhere to tell them about it that's a problem on the app my focus is on building base into a blockchain for global finance to that end i've handed the base app back to the coinbase mothership where my now good friend kobi will be taking it from here to make it the best damn app for on chain you've ever seen including expanding beyond the base ecosystem in ways that to be honest i won't love as the leader of base kobe who most people know as what a reply guy on twitter and a podcast host i know he has a lot of other skills and has built a lot of cool things but literally one of the most social guys in freaking crypto like that's how he's known and again you're talking about how how social doesn't matter like make it make sense here it's incredibly hard to grow a decentralized network inside of a big public corporation and i feel like much of the discourse on ct over the last week is downstream of this the following things can be true base and i love memes two brian probably won't ever bull post memes on the tl which is something that people want him to do which he's obviously not gonna do it this activity is illegal once you're over 40 years of age you really needed an lol or a little like emoji because a lot of people took you seriously and were like it's illegal really

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have you seen it elon just no one fine

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are you kidding me i think he meant meme coins not memes it's weird and we're working through it as we continue to decentralize base which has been our commitment from the beginning we're going to build base into a blockchain for global finance and do everything we can to be a place for the world where the world's money settles over the next century we will surely have formidable competitors welcome robinhood and stripe and people may abandon our cause but we welcome the competition and believe it's our duty to win respect and commitment of those who rally to our banners in 2026 this concretely means three things winning tradings payments and agents continuing the reply before i go there robinhood and stripe stripe who literally is building their crypto with a bunch of people who came from social and robinhood whose success was driven by reddit but again social doesn't matter okay continuing on trading means every asset tokenized stock memes app coins whatever you want to trade payments means stablecoins that work globally for people and the enterprises agents means accelerating all of it because crypto is native money for computers and artificial intelligence is going to create trillions of new economic actors yeah agents where the easiest place to build an agent is wait for it farcaster where we've been talking with agents since like the beginning of time and where one of the biggest sources of transaction and volume on base banker started where farcaster and against these three pillars builders are the backbone if there's one thing i'm deeply proud of since the beginning of base alongside all the mistakes it's betting on builders base is what it is because of the people who built it not the roadmap not the infrastructure the builders who showed up shipped and kept going through every version of this the good stretches and the hard ones we're going to keep backing them base layer base batches and base ecosystem fun my time my team's time coinbase and base app distribution as much as we're able to we will do everything we can to make builders win on base because when builders win base wins okay again and i don't have the exact numbers but my estimate is about 70% of transaction volume can be can go directly back to for 2024 and 2025 and probably a little bit into 2026 as well can go directly or indirectly back to farcaster starting with degen jacek the biggest hit the biggest volume came from degen and frames on farcaster for transactions on base that's where it started then it was clankr then it was bankr and to this day that's still accounting for the large amount of volume and then if you get into transactions overall it's mini apps too like added on top of that and some of the smaller memes almost all of the meme coins that have launched have taken off either because of farcaster or twitter social i mean like this just is boggling my mind and also if you wanted to really double down on prediction markets how about you should have put more into bracke and ponder which had really cool mechanics and very social aspects to them that were a lot of fun so that was a missed opportunity continuing on if you made it this far yeah we're here and you couldn't already tell i don't have everything figured out we try stuff we make mistakes and we adapt in public which we greatly appreciate and we know that you get hit left and right for that most of the time by people who are just trying to score points and get their their you know tweets seen so thank you for keeping going the feedback even the sharp stuff sorry genuinely makes us better we see it all and even we can't even when we can't respond to everything it burrows its way into my brain and makes me better so thank you we are building a global economy that increases innovation creativity and freedom we will do this by doing the right thing working hard staying optimistic pushing boundaries with creativity and putting the team over the individual and it's working the qoq growth index share and payment volume and renewed focus on products that drive sustainable growth however we can't shut up about we can shut up about content coins for now thank you i was wrong and i'm sorry although if someone else builds content coins and they work then i'm going to lose it i'm also not going to just let jesse fade away when when i launch something i'm gonna for the long term okay that's enough typing back to work okay my biggest problem with this post you know again appreciate you taking some accountability for stuff but social wasn't the problem the problem was the ridiculously outsized bet on zora and contentcoins that was a problem and there were builders saying this to you all along the way including us and saying this doesn't make sense it's too much focus this isn't gonna work and it was very frustrating so and this post again just added more collateral damage to those of us who are still building on farcaster again please go look at all your transaction volume and really think about where it came from for the past two years because it was mostly farcaster and farcaster builders i don't know how many people on your team came from farcaster it's ridiculous how many people on the privy team came from farcaster how many people like i mean over and over and over again

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loved farcaster too like

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you it's so it's so weird it's bizarre it's absolutely bizarre that like barcasters catching strays because you made a dumb bet on jacob and zora like and with tons of people yelling like from the mountain tops or very quietly saying to you hey i don't think this makes sense we don't feel comfortable putting 100% behind this we're going to keep doing our thing by the way all those creators who came in and you pumped up and you pushed them on zora and zora you know made them the top of the top and all this crap where are they now they're gone we're still here we didn't get crap for support in the past like two years so why don't you just you know how about just a quick little not continuing to trample on our grave would be great thanks like we're over here still trying to build very frustrating

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okay

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i'm gonna be quiet now for a minute oh by the way and then a whole bunch of farcaster builders over at lasertech hi salutors i'm like you know what i mean like there's so many far so many people who've come out of far the farcaster ecosystem who are incredible builders who found their ways into other other places but they got noticed first for what they were building on farcaster because it was easy to build there because it was easy to build there because you have a wallet built in so don't tell me that social and crypto don't go hand in hand because that is absolutely insane okay now i'm gonna shut up for your more measured and thoughtful thoughtful things please please continue

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no i'm done i'm done i'm being upset at all

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oh yeah very

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yeah i get what what do you want me to say

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i don't know i just don't know if you had anything else to say

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what i said

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that was frustrating i was very frustrated reading that and i really thought okay maybe in the morning i'll feel differently and man i didn't man i didn't he's blaming social but really it was him pushing the coin of social that was the problem 100% 100% like that was the problem and we knew it was the problem we said it was the problem and there was really not much else we could do

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yeah i mean my thesis is like i think i i think some version of decentralized social is really important because i think social is really important in the world right and we see this therefore do i want the power

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to communicate and make decisions on what people see in the hands of the very few

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no right

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no so do i want

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the world the larger and you're talking about the larger social media and their algos exactly yeah

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yeah it's just i do think elon's doing an incredible job with with twitter in terms of being more open and transparent and but that's still only one person i don't really wanna put trust in any one person right so

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anyway so what i what i've always cared about was kind of tipping the balance back towards people away from the few platform owners and that's kind of my motivation for joining farcaster it's why i wanna promote farcaster and i think farcaster like the the the vision for a farcaster or other decentralized social should exist i think it's important work yeah i think social is super important to deny that social isn't important is ridiculous now it may not be important now decentralized social may not be important to coinbase correct coinbase has twitter it has you know brian has reach and jesse has reach and everyone they want is there like cool

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you know what used to drive me insane and how many times did i call it out i called it out on here i called it out directly to jesse is how many times base after they launched base app would not even post things on the base app yeah not even that they would sometimes they didn't post anything yeah base camp they put the freaking base camp schedule out on on twitter only

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yeah

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didn't even put it over on base app i'm like what are you doing you're not even dogfooding your own thing how can you expect everybody else to

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but listen that's a reason why from the missionaries versus mercenary that's a reason why i've spent so much of my freaking time unpaid helping farcaster win yeah including because i believe in it right so i'm like it's kind of a hobby it's not because they're paying me it's not no i there's no incentive for me to

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be able to have that and less incentive every day and literally what we talked about yesterday was all the like the full time job that i absolutely need to get because we're there are no avenues for ad revenue right now like we're literally drowning and jesse just threw like an anvil on our heads like i'm just like what are you doing it

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wasn't carrying a video on boarded for a hot minute anyway yeah but so but but my point is my thesis i think that's still important does that change because coinbase yeah i remember wait hold on but does anything change do any of the fundamentals change because coinbase decided they don't need farcaster no no it doesn't change no not at all i think jeff is a phenomenal human being

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like but the fact that they kind of pulled support and the fact that you're making the statement just hurts it more like while there's people like like going like like seriously like we're dog paddling over here and you're just like making it worse when we know it's important

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okay fine yes by the way i am personally hurt like i have i i'm sorry like it doesn't feel good i feel disrespected i right yeah collective for the 37 of us like it feels disrespected i feel disrespected i don't feel great but i don't blame anybody like i don't and and i think let and like i said i have i have to say like i have for jesse as a person for a human being like he's such a rare he's a like he's one of a kind

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100%

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he's a like he's a really good person like i i am rooting for him because i think people like that should succeed in the world like he does care for people i think he is i never questioned his motivation i is no trying to do the right things right i will never stop like i will defend jesse and i will be there to support him as a person i love like yes adore and and he has vision like okay he had this massive vision he's way like i think the vision was great i by the way not a fan of content coining but also the idea that you could that you could put financial kind of

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sure

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that there's value in in creators and it was previously not captured by creators and they're that that's a great vision they didn't necessarily need to come from their friends and not the platform advertiser like whatever

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so there were ways to do that the the problem flat out was zora it was the it was the the bet on the bet on that particular platform and that particular approach was the problem

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my butt is coming okay i've got my big butt it is coming trippont's

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not that big

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i just

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i said

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everything nice and you know what my butt's gonna be nice too the only

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by the way this just really quick and this is after she had time to cool off that was me you yeah

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that's what i mean i think you were more fired up this morning i i even yesterday

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it got worse than yesterday yeah because i i was like i couldn't i was trying to cool off it didn't didn't work go ahead go ahead with your butt

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listen i i think the in hindsight i think the only major major issue right was when you take a big bet it's gonna go one of two ways like you're going to succeed bigly or you're gonna fail bigly and this this building for an audience that you're like you're launching to an audience different than you built for and incubating base as like a decentralized org with crypto builder values and then launching it under like to twitter and kind of coinbase it's just like it was gonna fail like i just wish there i don't know and so what are you doing

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just changed my background real quick this was almost my background today

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but to be honest and there's a reason i mean whatever and i said this before like it it is what it is i don't know like i think that's what that's what makes me i think it was really really poor

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very stark contrast to merkel's style of building yes which

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is not a lot of flack and they got a lot of flack for their style of building but guess what because their their investors got all their money back at the end of the day because they managed the bet but listen they managed the bet money in a way that allowed them to experiment and do all the things but also not you know put but also basically that money house you don't mortgage the house on it

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i i obviously right like i am and i do appreciate if you're building something new in emergent fields having a big vision is really important but making really really small bets so that you can iterate

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to keep going what we're

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yeah yeah as opposed to being fixated on a vision which was content point right like here's the vision and and only building towards that vision is is just not effective in in like ever you know so but and i think

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anyone who gambles if you think about this in gambling terms when you go into a casino you don't walk in put everything on zero on the roulette table if you think you're gonna continue playing for the rest of the night because that's a really bad idea like it's dumb

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and for everyone who says oh they spent too much money like also keep in mind we were people were happy to go to base camp on their dollar and happy to fund farcon a lot of farcon nyc events like so we benefited but i still would've

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we did but there was also there was also detriment to that

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but i

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didn't feel there were detriment to that because the other things got pushed aside because of that

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and to be honest i would have preferred more direct support of what we were building as opposed to like the big rah rah yeah kind of thing yeah so listen i have whatever i i think i'm glad that you share what you share because i don't disagree with any of it i just like

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you're just a little more measured yeah measured in stock like

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well yeah what else

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she's measured and thoughtful i'm

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i should not i have to go look at my notes what else

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here's a few other things from the chat jesse is my spirit animal sometimes my spirit animal has to make mistakes to become an even better spirit animal

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oh i know i know what i was gonna say i think the takeaway right this is what some of the takeaway people are seeing from jesse's

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was it's kinda like right social didn't work let's just stick to payments and let's make base the like best for finance

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right

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and we

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i think it's possible like maybe you need to like you can't do everything at once do focus on one thing but the idea that there's not other use cases for blockchain beyond finance is

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is crazy crazy like it's kinda crazy like one of that's the other thing so there were things that were built into the base app that were really cool and one of those was xmtp and being able to have something like a group chat where you could drop in banker and use banker or brackey directly in the group chat with that social experience and that social graph was really good was a really good idea it's a really good tool it makes a lot of sense like there were things like that that make a lot of sense there are things with mini apps that make a lot of sense and like that to me was that got pushed aside in favor of zora and all of that so that's where my main frustration lies there are things like vale that got ignored for a time you know here and there it got shout outs and things like that but it really didn't get as much support as it should have like thing there were so many things like that so many like interesting experiments that didn't get like bankers is another one you know bracke all the all those things but also you know clanker was ignored for a while now i get it some of that was proxy related i understand but like that kind of stuff like where it was like you can do the same thing with clanker that you're talking about doing with zora why are you only pushing this one narrative and it never made sense so that was what really

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prompted me

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was that multiple ones

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it's like it was the i think that is the criticism of the thing is like pick trying to pick

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winners yes and you picked winners and and the winner and it failed so again it's like again putting everything on zero and not and ignoring the rest of the table right and then i

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mean my criticism yeah one of my criticisms i felt like with base is is it was like everything they say and and that everything jesse said from like a value perspective i'm like i appreciated and got on board with and i really do like his i think his his stance of supporting builders was genuine and he believed it but then he's got a massive org right like so big and what is that so you've got a lot of different kind of cooks in the kitchen pushing various things it's a lot of complexity to manage but i remember at some point oh just the amount of almost like bureaucracy which felt like yeah anytime we were looking

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to we just wanted them to like retweet something or re recast it and that would you'd have to fill out forms and grants same thing grants were a massive process so that we got one grant at one point and that like kinda came to us naturally like organically and then anytime after that we never bothered to even apply because the process was insane

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there weren't grants right it was mini app like which

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didn't bother

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i wanted to get the gm forecaster mini app promoted in the base app we have been kind of like building on forecaster for so long bay like it just it it felt like it should just happen that's a little right like we don't absolutely us yeah and there was a very very long form to fill out

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especially especially when we were every single show we were talking about stuff that was being built on base and still are

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and i filled out a freaking form i like refused to fill out the form and then finally i was like alright adrienne just shut shut up put on your big girl pants and fill out the form filled out the form but like it goes to a debt nothing like it was like it was just it felt way too corporatized and you know and then i stopped kind of fighting for i never fought for base

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yeah i know and it's it's frustrating it's really frustrating so there were some other comments here that i wanted to share this was from cat cartel and it was a great point regarding base camp i personally don't agree with this his take on betting on social aspects being wrong betting on his interpretation of what social should look like was wrong last base camp had so many influencers running around to make curated scripted content yet the real stuff worth capturing was a beautiful engagement siege had there or a whole group of degens getting stranded at the top of a mountain hiking down together plus all the hours long fireside chats and debates etcetera community will always be something i bet on it's the missing piece so that was like again the the push for the content coins and the content that he thought would drive it pushed in a whole different group of people who weren't actually the people who had been building on base like for real they weren't the organic builders they were the we're being paid to be here builders and it was very different minus a couple like there's a couple in there that you know had been building a long time before that like afro chicks and you know rachel wilkins and people like that but for the most part it was the mercenaries coming in and being paid to do it and that was also a little frustrating to be honest and then kat went on to say so many once in a lifetime type memories and friendships made plus that networking was key still is as we navigate through the sluggish time we're falling back on those real relationships we made for support and building while everything shakes out and rebalances like it does every year or so but really like there were so many incredible builders there again who weren't getting the attention and focus because everything was zora and content coins this from jake i love farcaster again we already talked about how jake is getting shout outs on twitter from farcaster team i mean hello this from luciano i don't think zora has to die for on chain art to thrive i don't think getcoin has to die for on chain public goods funding to thrive but i do think both companies choosing to ignore the shared mission that coalesce real human beings to support these two initiatives is exactly why both are unable to represent either movement going forward i mean artists were you know there's a lot of conversations happening about that when zora pivoted to the way they pivoted and kinda left all the artists in the wake after the you know push to get them on there in the first place and then this from from wake okay this is in response to ace i had a whole other thing for ace jesus i mean ace has been welcome back ace while scrolling jesse's latest posting all the f c o g's who are no longer here i'm sitting here wondering what could bring them back i feel like this needed a picture of jessica sarah jessica parker like as carrie that's how it read to me then wake responded nothing that game isn't worth playing forecaster needs to be a fair open optionally private and decentralized to the extent it is censorship resistant incredibly neutral build that seed it with a handful of true believers then wait for global context to change it will patience appealing to opportunists gamblers and armchair builders won't work they're boring cavalier contribute nothing lasting the opposite of what we need for real evolution don't exclude them but don't lure them back allow them to return because what we offer eventually is better in a lasting meaningful way than what they've taken for granted not a certainty farcaster will likely fail even if we allow the right path to unfold and follow it but it's worth building the right thing if only to prove that corpusocial is the last branch of a dead tree and he goes on to talk more about true believers need to be committed to the new direction not the promise of shitcoins art and freedom types don't bother with shitcoin opportunists and maligners they're mercenaries and make for fertilizer but also i don't know i like a good shitcoin every once in a while and then just the other thing that was kind of going around and this is related to you know the farcaster's dead long live farcaster situation ace talking about this was in relation to jake focusing on twitter for his hoodie meme coin which duh is all i could say honestly and then ace went on to talk about how this should that it should alarm farcaster and to me it's like no it shouldn't because obviously if you want to scale you're going to have to go beyond farcaster there's just no other way to do it at this moment although we were hoping that maybe bringing a million people through a base app was gonna do it it didn't work out but also it's still the best place to find your early users to get the good feedback to build things that work seamlessly and easily you wanna build you wanna build something and have an integrated wallet where else are you gonna go right now this is it so like what are you even talking about but then you are if you're if you're launching a meme coin obviously if you're gonna do anything at scale you're gonna have to get twitter behind it as well there's just no way this from matt lee

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which i also liked my favorite time farcaster was dead because it's been dead many times was before it ever really had a life when it was just me and a bunch of bots most of the top farcaster accounts are still bots that i run spring summer twenty twenty four after frames launched but before clanker so this is after degen when farcaster died again was really fun too though the current period of farcaster dead is pretty distinct in that the tech needed to materialize the vision of an open social network is getting crazy good so there's simply nothing to do but just build it and that is the current phase i wonder what comes after the go hard building the vision with hyper advanced ai technology phase if this were a book what would happen after that phase what could possibly be about to happen after me and the homies go unreasonably hard building the future while leveraging the current revolution in machine intelligence gm gm matt and then i liked yours my favorite time farcaster dead was when nounish professor and i could do an entire gm farcaster show where we talked about the ridiculous memes that circulated here the tech is ready bring back the memes and i agree and literally we did this show in twenty one minutes and never ran over in the early days and you know what it was really fun it was so fun still it's still fun and and thank you chat and thank you og og links in the chat back to the on lonely days and yesterday crypto yeah alright anything else

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linx is building something new it looks like linx cool

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linx tell us tell us about it tell us about it hit us up hit us up in the on the feed back over on on farcaster where we live

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anyway

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yeah what but it's not lonely

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oh unlonely unlonely was was a vibe that's for sure unlonely and our our recordings were only on zora

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okay so yesterday you were looking our k mac was looking for the top gun farcon venice top gun video

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yeah

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and we can't find it like i thought cassie posted it originally

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it's it's oh it's raw it's

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oh raw oh

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it's raw it's robert not robert but rah changes this yes robustocracy robot now it's robot but it's not that wasn't his name at the time so i don't know i can't remember what his name was and that's why i couldn't tag him but it was him it it was him

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we just asked him to send it anyway

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i can find it i just needed to go back a little bit and find it through our episodes

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we're sure couldn't find it so then i went to the lure app and just put in i remember i thought it was like february it was like from february ish timeline before farfetch but i was started at farcon may 2024 and just started going backwards in time i had so much fun going and i was like oh it was so fun it was fun so many ridiculous things but also yeah so many of our casts were like dan talking about like it was product updates and i just think about like how much work he had to do like a lot of this was on like spam labels and moderation and channels like there was there was so much that we take for granted to get farcaster to kind of like feature yeah built out

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i'll remember on lonely it was so slow and i could barely watch the show

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yep the reason we ended up on youtube was because yesterday crypto begged us

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couldn't yeah

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he's like please please we're like fine we gave up yeah cassie did the new york one she did the empire state of mind one

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that was it

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which was also amazing but that's kinda the vibe we need to bring back honestly is bring back the fun bring back the memes do something fun today go on to try merge and do something fun like just do something fun today and put it on the timeline and we'll probably shut you out on monday because we can not or yester crypto will

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curate it

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yeah yeah or yester crypto will curate it yester crypto can curate now if you if you missed that and we'll have more information about what you can do with with our hyper sub to become a curator coming soon

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okay

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but thanks to all the folks hanging in the chat thanks to everybody watching over twitter by the way most of you are watching on twitter by

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the way in the chat yeah twitter

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by the way hi twitter twitter x centralized social and we have we have like almost 700 people watching live right now and throughout this time period and this is our early show so we get more when it's a little bit later in the day and we've got i don't even know how many that are over on youtube who are really you know from you know the farcaster crew so probably i don't know 650 plus are just over on twitter just watching just hanging not chatting just lurking and we appreciate you so we understand that social is really important to our show and literally every other piece of media that exists in the world runs on social

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alright joins just in time for my measured takes oh you need to go back it's way more entertaining than i could ever be and she's also you said a lot of like more probably real truths than i probably i probably talked around issues

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yeah well you know what here's the thing i had a lot of these feelings all along i said a lot of it mostly quietly i said it in replies i said it in dms i said it to jesse's face in person but i said it quietly and you know what maybe that was the problem is that not enough of us were who who were like seeing the problem weren't saying it loud enough early enough when we knew

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it was probably we're way too civil

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we're way too nice and also here's the other thing i always question myself and go well jacob and jesse are way smarter than me they must know what they're doing and that's what i kept thinking to myself was like you know and but fully going this doesn't make sense like this isn't gonna work so whatever here we are but also quit the collateral damage please just stop just stop we're hurt enough we give we surrender please stop

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okay this was episode 376

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the chat was really like go by the way this is also why is the chat why is why do we have a more active chat today it's because

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we're we're activated yeah exactly

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like but not just us like people have buildings

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yes people have lights

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come together and anyway by the way there was someone in the chat today who was very very critical about farcaster and and that's perfectly fine yeah yeah

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and if you are i don't know was it somebody who's on farcaster

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i don't know their farcaster name but the way they were chatting reminded me of someone who on farcaster i like my my if i was gonna do a a writing language comparison a la vitalik i'd be like i know who that is oh that's funny so people are are they talking about me yep so just i if not clear like i'm not we welcome criticism feel free

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feel

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free to share and it doesn't yeah like but yeah

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and that's and that's perfectly perfectly fine and you're not necessarily wrong on some of those points as well we're just focusing a little different area today but believe me we've had we've had plenty of moments over the years and you can you know maybe even ask warby where we've been very critical of you know merkel all along the way we've been we'll you know we'll i'm sure at times really hasn't happened yet much we'll be critical of you know the neymar team and things that they and choices they make i don't think they've had enough time to do much yet so there we go

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but oh i know he's talking about

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art yeah yeah so there's you know no one's perfect when you're building i appreciate all builders who build in public because it's freaking hard so again jesse for everything i just said still love you dude still think you're incredible think you're one of the smartest guys here i think you just got a little hoodwinked and distracted by by a shiny object that just wasn't shiny no that was brian brian got weighted by thread guy and that's why it was like cut off at the knees rather than rather than hey maybe there's a different way to do this

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yeah

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so it was more of a like we need to like pull everything out and that was like what what are you doing so anyway good luck to kobe

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i do feel like though like here's my theory though too too it's like if base is gonna really be like alright we're gonna do the payments like we're really gonna focus on payments and crypto and that'll okay and jesse can focus on base the chain yep fine yep kobe can focus on base the app but then if that is base the app right like i think where do where do the artist creatives creators women people who are not maybe identify as pure degen where are they going to the base app is that for them do they see it no or do they come and

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i don't know it depends

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on i mean in the chat girl i had no idea

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what you had hey sage we were talking

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was like

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did you see us talk about your engagement hopefully you saw that oops yeah anyway

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okay let's go i

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think that's enough i'm tired i'm absolutely exhausted i've been thinking about this for the last hour long

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eighteen hours chat

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but we love you we love you chad

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if we by the way if we don't space and share your feelings

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if we don't know who you are on farcaster we like to give shout outs it also adds to your little gm card badge so make sure we have your farcaster name if you want a shout out because otherwise we may not be able to find you some of you we know yeah it's 10am yeah i'm exhausted because i've been thinking about this particular thing for the past i don't know eighteen hours so like i didn't sleep well because it was bugging the crap out of me so at least i got it out of my i got it out of my veins and we'll be here on monday yet again for a touch

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that

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was one of the most favorite things from far from farcon and nyc was hi brian from unloney when he got up to ask a question that was absolutely hilarious

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so today share a meme share something fun go play around with trimerge do something fun today share it on the timeline maybe we'll feature it on monday we will be back on monday i think right or monday next week we have so many weird things going on with our schedule for the past month for the next month so things are weird we might try to we're gonna be launching on empire builder sometime soon and we're gonna try and get your berserker to come on and help us do that live so coming

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soon be launching our content coin guys

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we're gonna launch our content coin live on here

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you do you know how by the way do you know how many how many times we had that conversation like why don't you guys launch multiple times multiple times with multiple people from base and we were like we're not really ready to do that and also in our heads we're like and if we do it's gonna be on clanker like we're not gonna do it on zara was one of the conversations we had multiple times so anyway oh no i'm excited about monday's show always i'm very excited again i'm just exhausted this was like emotionally draining

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i love the base app the base app did get an update it looks completely different it looks more like the coinbase wallet of old days right now

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wait so then what's like what's the difference between

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i don't know i don't freaking know anymore it's just a you know self custodial that's all mhmm which is what it used to be but also you know anyone who's gonna try to tell me that prediction markets aren't social get out of here get out of here with that bullshit just get out of here they're freaking putting prediction markets integrated into literally everything they're on your tv love island do you know what do you know why love island's viewership went up because kelsey and volley market because the dude started watching and the women were like get out of our show you're ruining it so funny anyway alright everybody anything else adrienne before we start

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i mean if anything like you should walk away being like oh social's important oh let's build a farcaster so i think it's a good

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sign just build a farcaster if you're building something build a farcaster you can also also build elsewhere but come on over come on over and build

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i'm a fan of it not not super loving all the gambling guys mhmm should we let's try

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a little gambling so i can't i can't complain about that also did you see the background today oops

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i like a little drugs you know

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there we go the casino's on the 6th floor it's really it's really actually at the bottom you gotta walk through it first to get to everything else but it's not the only thing so there we go it's a new day one right this is fun it's a new day one guys it's a new day one here we are let's start over long live farcaster and bye bye see you

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thanks for joining us for this episode of gm farcaster and thank you to all our partners and hyper sub supporters bringing this episode to you follow the gm farcaster channel for all the latest updates and add our mini app on farcaster and the base app until next time bye bye