GM Farcaster CastOut edition ep2

Aired Date

June 7, 2024

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Series

Cast Out

Episode

Cast Out 1 - Ep2

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https://youtu.be/n23TPIUqB3c
0:09Speaker 0

gm farcasters on chain summer has kicked off with cast out 16 players will try to outwit outplay and outcast for a chance to win 100,000 dgen players will start in two tribes mole and wow wow and today brings the second challenge the two tribes will compete to see who has the most liked meme each tribe will post a meme in the channel of their choice at 3pm eastern today and the meme with the most likes on warpedcast by tomorrow at 11am eastern wins immunity the losing tribe will cast out a player from their tribe note owners of a channel may not be the ones who host in that channel so be strategic in your casting if you're not a cast out player you can still play along back your favorite player on bracket.game if you have a gm farcaster hypersub sub you can claim free packs or pick up some shares at bracket.game see the castout channel for more info and don't forget to go like your favorite meme are you ready and on let's outwit outplay and outcast this on chain summer with castout and thank you to pinata.cloud for supporting castout and gm farcaster

1:28Speaker 1

gm farcaster welcome to the second episode cast out edition for our on chain summer game cast out and i have tldr here back again to give us the bracket game analysis welcome tim and then we also have jace here with us and it is jace right am i saying yeah

1:49Speaker 2

it is you know you got it right

1:51Speaker 1

and i'm calling him i'm calling it right now our first official superfan for castout

1:58Speaker 2

yeah and we were talking about this beforehand you know it's like i like to see myself as a armchair analyst love it an analyst taste on a oh no commentator taste on an analyst budget or the other way around so whatever you want to to look at that

2:16Speaker 1

absolutely love it and i love that you've been engaging so much in the channel and i'm gonna show some of those casts in just a minute but let's talk about our challenge so we dropped this challenge yesterday everybody saw that video that kind of gives you the idea of what happened and then we had the two tribes share their memes so this is the mole meme we've got a little and it had to be far caster themed something about far caster so we have dan here play a different game with the with the r chat on and this is for mole and cameron posted it in reply guys and then we have this from the wow wow team we've got the farcaster figures meme boomer dads and millennial girls and it's pretty funny if you go through and read it we've got great opportunity for another client many such cases the parenting channel it's pretty funny and then on the other side you basically have ted so this is basically a dan and ted meme if you haven't quite figured that out and let me show just sort of how this all went down in the channel we do have actually let me put this back up this is the final the final count mole had 516 likes wow wow with eight forty five i only counted likes that was the challenge if i do this again i think i also include some of these other metrics like recasts and quote quote casts i think those add some value there as well but i think it still would have worked out the same but it was it was quite it was quite a battle they they went to battle and so mole put theirs out there first like i said they put it in reply guys they had to choose which channel they went with reply guys as a strategic move because johnny nonlinear is on the other team and he's he's the meme lord and then of course they of course casted in memes they could not the owner of the channel could not cast so ted also with a huge amount number of followers casted in the memes channel and and they were off but they were a little late so this particular cast came through and i lost it absolutely lost it so mole casted right at around 3pm they could cast any time from 3pm on eastern and it took a couple hours before wow wow casted and this was from meeesh hearing some serious yelling from the other room jace where the fuck is the other meme and i did i did love that jace i i loved that you were as invested as you were so like what is it that is getting you so excited about this and are you playing bracket game also

5:15Speaker 2

yes yes i am so i i i've inserted myself into both teams as the mutual rasputin

5:25Speaker 2

the the the thing that was

5:28Speaker 1

i love it

5:29Speaker 2

i mean you know i i think that tim definitely knows it we we we've gone on rants before where we're in this really interesting place of being the intersection of new and exciting and young but in a world that still has to function in a way that people can use and so i i think a lot of that frustration came out of you know going from just like normal real life work where if i'm sending something in three minutes late you know i i'm thinking about it for for the rest of the day you know i really i thought that it was like some sort of mind game of you know like i have to go find this meme and i'm like if that's the case forget i'm not doing it

6:19Speaker 1

everyone's overthinking some things like i keep getting notes even from the team of like i saw you cast this so now i'm looking for the hidden immunity idol in it i'm like it's not there like it's that's not what i'm doing like it'll be it'll be a little more clearer than that but it's funny because i think a lot of people are overthinking things here's what was happening in the background so now i'm gonna give you a little bit of the bts the mole tribe is extremely organized yes and what they finally did was i could tell because there was much less chatter they created a second chat that i'm not in but they tend to be very organized i watched them in the first challenge incredibly organized so right at 3pm they were gone they were up it was done and they did something very simple the other team a lot of creatives

7:06Speaker 2

mhmm

7:07Speaker 1

very interesting group a little bit of chaos and they were just finalizing things it was taking a little bit longer they were using figma they i mean they were coordinating but it wasn't as organized you know it was a little bit a little bit more chaotic but it was interesting that they had a figma going and they're all contributing to it and they're adding to it and they were just finalizing things and it just took a little bit longer so just a little that was that was all it was and i watched it in the background and i'm like you know they're losing time and there's something to that but at the same rate i i had a feeling they could make up that time yeah this was really their challenge to lose so

7:48Speaker 2

yeah i that that was and the the crowd even though our sample size was small before you know sight unseen the people that did contribute their perspectives were correct and i think that the the rationale behind that was probably pretty clear

8:08Speaker 1

yeah so you had you've been doing some surveys on pondir which is fantastic and we had this which tribal win this cast out meme challenge and it was overwhelming wow wow right 63% to 38% you've also done one for which tribe will win cast out and it really will come down to which person and what tribe are they on originally so and that one is pretty close you've got 51% wow mole and 49% wow wow so that one's really close the meme one was not very close and i think that was pretty accurate like i i felt kind of the same way and actually watching from the background on the first challenge i knew mole had it pretty pretty early on because they were so organized in the game mhmm so it's really interesting when you can see the behind the scenes it's pretty easy to see like where those advantages are but it's the account

9:06Speaker 3

the account was surprisingly close like i mean for

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a while

9:10Speaker 3

i think while i was like a little bit nervous

9:14Speaker 1

they did

9:14Speaker 3

and then they just kinda blew it away with the with the reach i i would love to like just dive like nerd out a little bit

9:24Speaker 1

on yeah go

9:25Speaker 3

on their strategies you know just and hear what what you guys think about like if you notice anything about the way that they you know how how they chose to to to go for the the most likes in in different ways like i think it's just interesting

9:43Speaker 2

yeah i agree i think that that was the most interesting aspect for sure

9:47Speaker 1

so what did you guys see that because i saw other things behind the scenes

9:51Speaker 2

yeah so i

9:52Speaker 1

don't know how much i wanna say but i'm curious what you saw what do you think their strategies were let me go with that and then i'll give you some reveal

9:59Speaker 2

well i know what i saw and

10:01Speaker 1

okay what did you see

10:03Speaker 2

strategically both teams did well you know i give them a a b on their strategies you know i i i think that

10:14Speaker 1

solidly he's a tough grader

10:16Speaker 3

yeah

10:16Speaker 1

yeah he's a tougher grader than i am

10:18Speaker 2

oh god it's i it's i i'm i'm giving the the the i'm grading on a curve for this one

10:26Speaker 2

now to to pin into memes was wise

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you

10:31Speaker 2

know that that's that's a great move yeah to cast into reply guys also wise yeah that same pinning strategy could have been something leveraged you know it's like hey can you pin this for for two days you know some high volume high high traction channel probably would have been on board for that right

10:58Speaker 1

i think that that was there was some effort made to do that and i don't know that it came together but i but mole was reaching out and wawa to other hosts of channels and pinning it in channels that they hosted so they were pinning it if they had if it was their channel and then they were asking others to pin for them but i don't think they quite got the right one that had enough traction for mole i mean

11:26Speaker 3

yeah i mean i think obviously there's that like inherent advantage and home court advantage right like there is a home court advantage for for johnny having the meme channel and like totally like obviously but but i think ted did something and the team did something you know ted posted it but like the team did something really interesting with like i think ted used used the the text of her cast to invite replies and engagement what am i missing and i think she she teed up a question that was fun for people to think about and and respond to in a in a meaningful way that like made people also wanna click in and look at that so like the thing that i don't know is like you know if that if that because replies and engagement with the replies is obviously so huge for something getting reach and i think that this got like three or four times the reach

12:28Speaker 1

it shot a lot more views

12:30Speaker 3

four four times the four times the view reach

12:34Speaker 1

yeah and it and it did get a lot it got you know well over a 100 recasts more than than the mole team however mole had a lot more quote casts which i think is interesting and i'm not sure if that was

12:51Speaker 1

part of that might have helped in the reply guys the reply guys love love love to do a little focus

12:56Speaker 3

true true so like molay's yeah no that was smart we hadn't we haven't got to the the molay analysis yet though like but like their one thing to note is that like the the reach you know four four x the views for yeah for wow wow right like which is just it this is almost impossible to overcome mhmm rate of likes for mole was incredible

13:24Speaker 1

yeah

13:24Speaker 3

i'll just say like

13:25Speaker 1

so cameron made that point early on was like the percentage of likes to views that that should have been the metric and i'm like that's interesting i hadn't thought about that that is definitely something we could look at for a future season as one of the metrics because i do think that's a great point you know that was you know for the number of views they got the like percentage was higher that was

13:51Speaker 3

there there would be some interesting game theory in that one too because like what happens or what you'll anyone will notice that happens is that the more reach they get the more reviews that anyone gets the the less the less likes and engagement that you'll get just naturally by so on that one you would have this interesting game of how do i get something that's not going to go too big but like everybody who sees it will like it and so that's

14:20Speaker 1

the way i'm envisioning is is some way to like take all these metrics and give them points so that it's not one thing like so it's not just one aspect of it i think that would be the better way it's just a matter of like okay how do i how do i do that so that'll be something i i'll figure out between now and and august

14:40Speaker 3

this is also fun though this is a great one to start with

14:44Speaker 1

it was so fun it was really and both of them were funny i mean they both had they had great meme quality like i was impressed you know like they had some they had some they had some legs well according to jace it's only a b it's a

14:58Speaker 3

b b

14:58Speaker 1

there are b memes but

15:00Speaker 2

strategy was was a solid b content wise i i was i was given maybe a d plus

15:09Speaker 1

oh really

15:10Speaker 2

and i and this is why i say

15:13Speaker 3

they were for each team

15:15Speaker 2

what's that

15:16Speaker 3

you have the same grade for each team or

15:18Speaker 2

yeah i mean they were hyper niche they like

15:21Speaker 1

but that was on purpose yeah

15:22Speaker 2

not not that was by design i didn't give a vote to either of them because if i saw them not in competition i wouldn't think either of them were were were funny or resonated with me one thing that i think was also a missed opportunity it's like i mean we have such first of all there's mean guys and gals and people in in these teams you know i was looking i was like man we got the cameron's on one side we got the johnny's on the other side this is really interesting this is gonna be good but then also there's so many ancillary players that could have been leveraged it's like either team could have you know leaned into the pugsons of the world and like i mean a pugson meme will like get a cackle out of me and like talk about throwing something out there that takes you know nothing more than just observing the situation that just hit so hard so i thought that that was a a missed opportunity as well

16:27Speaker 1

that's interesting so i didn't give them any limitations on using like an artist or using somebody else to create the meme

16:34Speaker 3

yeah

16:34Speaker 1

so that's a good point the only limitation i gave and it probably wasn't enough i should i said the owner couldn't post it but i probably should've said the owner couldn't pin it either so that was my bad oh you're being yes i believe the chat asked mish to go talk to you about your creative

16:50Speaker 2

she she she just jumped in and said pugs and bribe which i think would have been wise i said one team could've they could've been in a bidding war with with pugs and be like here's a 100,000 d gen give me like just five hits right now

17:07Speaker 1

give me something good right now i need something good

17:10Speaker 2

it's i don't know

17:11Speaker 1

it's funny they did i mean they did both have what was the other thing that was really interesting i saw this happen in both chats they both went to the data they're like what what memes get the most likes and they did think about that and i thought that was interesting and i think it says a lot about the people who are playing and there are multiple people who did that we're like let's look at the data like what gets most hits what gets most likes and yeah so it's funny

17:37Speaker 3

yeah how did they get that

17:40Speaker 1

mole got our meme literally from pugson there you go i'm getting that note right now in the chat

17:46Speaker 2

there you go

17:46Speaker 1

from adrian

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okay

17:48Speaker 1

pugsen something about pugsen's ego is still a winner so there you go it was it was tapped into there you

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go okay

17:56Speaker 1

i didn't know that i did not know that information thank you for that

17:59Speaker 2

and i yeah like i said i don't know what's going on you know i don't know who's not talking to me not you know talking to me listening to me

18:08Speaker 1

he is completely just observing this as a as a member of the audience and i and passed out superfan

18:15Speaker 3

i'm the you're jace is the is the tough grader and i'm like the the soft grader because i i liked both of them like i

18:24Speaker 1

i i liked them both

18:26Speaker 3

i almost so like from the wow wow meme like i it almost made me feel nostalgic it was it was partly funny but it was partly just like i i this is like i love this because i love farcaster and it's just like it's it's right in in sort of some of the archetypes that are so have been so important in like setting a kind of you know funny different positive culture so that was just like really fun and nostalgic and i enjoyed it and then honestly the the mole one for me i i mean the the meme is funny just solely for the the look on dan's face that they chose this is like a look that dan does like that just like it's just like if if you if you

19:20Speaker 1

know it's his opportunity for another client look

19:23Speaker 3

yes the the the meme the meme of dan like it's just like a fun fun funny like dan face to put on anything

19:31Speaker 1

and i'll be honest so like this particular season is geared towards the ogs right it really is the it's og players it's it's it's you know when i i the only other instruction i gave them about the meme challenge was something about farcaster right yeah so that was their only limitations and i have to say you you're making a great point here tim i think the wow wow like reaching out and saying hey what what do we miss who else what are the other figures who else do we do and i don't know if you saw this from ted this morning this is the farcaster figures gen z girlies there aren't any so there you go that's the joke

20:10Speaker 3

that is pretty funny

20:11Speaker 1

that's a

20:12Speaker 2

that's a slow cook

20:15Speaker 1

slow cook you gotta it takes a second to get it yeah it takes takes a minute

20:19Speaker 3

okay it took me a second to get moles though like i i yeah and like i had to i had to like read around in the comments like it wasn't immediately i i knew it was something funny because of how many great reactions that i saw but like i had to go back and read some things to find and so like that that was a kind of fun element of that of of finding a reference that like wasn't so safe like everybody instantly knows it because that's like the less risky thing is like to go with something super safe that everybody will definitely know i liked that they chose something that i had to dig a little bit it was like a a risky choice and i think to me that that might be why it was just like such a high quality you got such a high ratio for people who saw

21:11Speaker 1

it that like oh listen dan dan instantly knew it he did he did give a little lol on that one

21:17Speaker 3

yeah yeah

21:18Speaker 1

and recasted it and some and dodie asked me if it does a dan recast count for additional points i said no but a dan like does equal one like

21:29Speaker 2

that's that's fair yes that was it and it also a dan like also counts for one dan like

21:36Speaker 1

it's one dan like

21:37Speaker 2

that that's also its own thing but tim to your point and also the flip side of that is in my meme tastes it should be funny even if you know don't know what anyone's talking about like and so because this was you know it's like

21:57Speaker 1

both are a little more of a thinker yeah you have to yeah

22:00Speaker 2

yeah i've been here for a while and it's like i adjacently got what was being referred to but also i didn't care and that was part of the thing like wow wows grew on me because i looked at it i was like like oh yeah those are those are things but it wasn't like it's not one of those things that just hits right off the bat where you think you get it it's it's funny but then you really get it and it's hilarious and that was yeah you know it's it's kind of like when you say something funny to your friends and you just say it because you're in the moment versus like i need to think of something funny to say to my friends like it's it just changes the calculus of it

22:44Speaker 1

i think that is very true those those and the the other thing is i gave them time a lot of time on this one and they're like almost you gave us too much time mhmm like because they did overthink a little bit but i think everyone in the chat just said rough logic dan's dumb face was for mass appeal

23:02Speaker 2

yeah it's it's funny too because noticing how the last the the the yoink challenge felt like it was too long whereas this one

23:14Speaker 1

yep

23:15Speaker 2

felt like it was too much time

23:17Speaker 1

to to prepare

23:19Speaker 2

however we talked about this off offline and i do think that in the future first challenge has to be an endurance one right

23:28Speaker 1

i think because i was i was questioning and i said this to to jace i said i was questioning that maybe it should be just twelve hours it was too much on the on the players and he said no it needs to be that physical endurance like let's make it really like survivor kind of thing and i'm like okay there's something to that that's interesting yeah you got it yeah you get hurt you get hurt if he wants to hurt you endurance endurance challenges i do wanna top bracket game and just see where we're where we're at here and interesting so ted's still sitting sitting sitting up top there but when we look at owners we've got adrian solid solid at the top with the owners as we scroll down jacek is still holding six owners and i don't understand he's out

24:19Speaker 3

he can't win these these might be people who got them in a pack it was but let me the craziest thing is that that that jacek did not drop below brian is

24:33Speaker 1

yeah yeah brian is still on the bottom for both

24:36Speaker 3

i mean people have like

24:38Speaker 1

own and amount so what does that say do you think about okay so let me ask you your predictions so i'm gonna talk a little bit about survivor strategy in general usually early votes come down to people who didn't contribute much to the challenge or to you know the camp because they're actually you know building stuff and shelters and all that kind of thing mhmm so i there could be something to that the other strategy is do we try to get out players who we think are gonna beat us down the road they have one more team challenge though so what are your predictions as to who from the mole team is being voted out today

25:19Speaker 2

timmy

25:20Speaker 3

joe i mean bracket seems to be clearly predicting brian and i'll i'll go with like the ask and ask the audience and it it fits with your with your theory professor in the sense that you know people are probably looking at brian and thinking like oh like he's he's not gonna try

25:40Speaker 2

so he's

25:41Speaker 1

also had some stuff happen if you're paying attention to what's been going on

25:46Speaker 3

yes no

25:46Speaker 1

he's got some things going on so

25:48Speaker 3

100%

25:49Speaker 1

that's a

25:49Speaker 2

that's a

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maybe he'll also people take pity on him for that reason

25:52Speaker 1

you know it is interest for playing this game and everything's very public and people know each other it puts a lot of different aspects to the game in play mhmm than if everybody's sequestered on an island somewhere so jace what do you think what's your what's your prediction here

26:09Speaker 2

yeah i think that that's probably

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i i think that that's probably a wise bet brian's been going through a lot lately i haven't talked to him since since that that time but you know seeing and hearing and especially hearing from mish i wouldn't be surprised if if he's just like i gotta go deal with other stuff like i'm a freebie

26:34Speaker 2

we don't know i that's that would be my guess but

26:41Speaker 2

if not we just well here here's the other thought too it's like if brian goes i wonder if down the line if what what grace's level of investment will be i oh interesting might might get you know a a case of the screws might run through the the family so who knows

26:59Speaker 1

we'll we'll see we'll see we'll see well let's reveal so our cast out today is indeed brian wow brian has been cast out by the mole team it was unanimous so no need to do any kind of dramatic vote reveals

27:16Speaker 2

mhmm

27:18Speaker 1

and brian we're sorry to see you go but i do believe it was he did not from what i saw i didn't see him contributing to the team challenge i think he was distracted with other things and and that was it so bracket game is pretty good pretty good predictor

27:36Speaker 2

yep that is

27:37Speaker 1

pretty good predictor people are people are on it right now so that's really interesting so thank you brian for for playing he did play a little bit in the yoink game and then sort of disappeared and i think that's when everything he you know he was dealing with went down so yeah so anyway so thank you brian we hope you recover your funds and it's a it's a it's a bummer but

28:02Speaker 3

tip brian

28:02Speaker 1

love you anyway tip ryan some degen please

28:06Speaker 2

no

28:07Speaker 1

and everybody actually you know one one thing i will say to the players you know remember that you're not on an island and that people will you know remember what you did so i will say that it did get a little spicy i don't know if you saw but yeah kristen kristen went hard you know there was there was some there was some new pasta created by ted so we do need to talk a little bit about that so kristen went a little hard she she was

28:43Speaker 3

i was so impressed i was impressed by that

28:46Speaker 1

i was impressed as well it was it was a lot though it was a lot so she was suggesting that there was gonna be tipping for those who unlike the other teams meme cast so what happened was ted ted reached out a little bit here had some things to say about that and she said hi casters friendly reminder i am a far caster data sleuth we know exactly who liked this cast and then unliked it and then got paid or tipped in dgen best part about farcaster is that it's all public data what isn't public is is the private messages but we know about those too love team wow wow it was like a little little bit of threat little bit of threatening there and what was really funny was the pasta that followed and there was multiple pasta happening and let me see if i can find horse facts because his was absolutely hilarious but also lynx did one there was a few of them and i'll have to put them in the show notes because i don't think i grabbed them for the show but they were absolutely hilarious so well done friends i'm loving like the the approaches here and the funny things that people are doing let me see if i can find horse facts because that was really funny and yeah here it is

30:14Speaker 1

the everyone just got a little crazy it was funny so this was horse facts with hi uli posting a kind warning this one isn't the one that you can't use a letter e

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what if you don't know what uli posting is

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i love words

30:36Speaker 1

you can't even say the letter e a kind warning i am a major protocol data snoop i know who posts that clip and quickly unposts it and thinks nobody saw your slip up cool thing about this protocol is that it's all public data what is in public is in your dcs but i know about that too x x o x o your mod and janitor and then we had nick porter hi reply oars friendly reminder i am a reply guy data's luke we know exactly who only liked a cast and kept scrolling and then replied to a bot account best part about reply guys is that all moves are public what isn't public is is in your replies irl but we would reply to those two love team reply guys

31:18Speaker 2

see i love i love that the npcs are becoming the most interesting aspect of this so this is great

31:24Speaker 1

it's hilarious absolutely hilarious so that was really funny to see like this sort of i wouldn't call it drama that's a big stretch but like the little bit of competitiveness then turning into something that gets like copy pasted all over the place and it's hilarious so

31:42Speaker 3

it's it's competitive i mean that's that's what i that's

31:45Speaker 1

they are competitive

31:46Speaker 3

they're competitive people and it's fun i absolutely love to see it like it's it's i think that like you know i i would say again like it's starting like the the memes are starting to leak out and people are starting part of the reason that i put this like a little drama between ted and cameron is i want people to realize they're like missing out on on like some pretty fun dynamics here right like everybody's got a good spirit but like competitive and like i i wish that people could see the group chats i know like if they could just see the people collaborating like just how like thought and current planning that's going into it i wish there was some way

32:31Speaker 1

it would be too much insider information for rajeet

32:35Speaker 3

i'm just like what in what way could like more of these kind of so that's what i liked about the leaking out of like the teams kind of coming at each other a little bit it's like the group chat emerging a little bit into public and us getting to kinda watch the arena they're fighting in the arena this is

32:56Speaker 1

our in the arena

32:57Speaker 3

you know elon and zuckerberg going into the coliseum and and having it out

33:02Speaker 1

okay that's that's a big stretch but yes we're hitting it

33:06Speaker 3

we're hitting it

33:07Speaker 1

that's their next meme that's the next meme we have cameron and ted in the arena yeah it's it's really fun to see and it's really fun to see people getting into it and i'm i'm enjoying every minute and i cannot wait for monday so assuming that everything is ready i have a one little thing that we're tweaking the challenge for monday will be super fun but it will end with the having which means that the team that wins will have to let go of fewer people but both teams are gonna vote people out on monday on tuesday technically tuesday but also anyone will be able to play this particular game so we'll have a separate leaderboard for the cast out players but also we'll have some prizes for other people too so it's going to be fun i'm really excited can't wait and there is a hidden immunity chat idle that's already out there and there's another one that will drop later today so the person if anyone was holding it they nobody dc'd me to say they wanted to use it so apparently brian did not have a hidden immunity idol so it'll be interesting to see how those come into play on tuesday as well so a few things it'll be it'll be a whole different dynamic so there it's gonna be both individual and team at the same time so we'll we'll see we'll see

34:36Speaker 2

what's what's without saying too much is there a objective scoring mechanism yes okay because what would be interesting

34:46Speaker 1

on chain

34:48Speaker 2

what would be interesting is if the non players if just the civilians that that are that are in the in in the cast if the winner or if the the the top leader in the non participatory side of things is outperforming the contestants

35:13Speaker 1

mhmm

35:14Speaker 2

there should be a repercussion

35:17Speaker 1

no there will be a reward for that person

35:20Speaker 2

yeah but we should punish prayers

35:24Speaker 1

i i'm more of a carrot kind of person than a yeah kind of person but you know but it's an idea it's an idea not for this time but i'll i'll think it through for next time

35:33Speaker 2

yeah take it

35:34Speaker 1

how we can do that but there will be it will mess with their game anyway

35:39Speaker 2

that's good

35:39Speaker 3

every competition show with judges and analysts needs needs the one like super tough like simon cowell type and we found it in

35:48Speaker 1

apparently we found our simon he's over there yeah we found our simon

35:51Speaker 2

trying to be the steven a smith

35:53Speaker 3

i want i want somebody to be punished

35:56Speaker 1

yeah somebody to be i'll i'll work on paula if you haven't noticed

36:02Speaker 2

i'll work on my i'll i'll get some outboard compression and limiting so i can yell more

36:08Speaker 1

that's so funny

36:09Speaker 2

but no this is this is really fun it's it's exciting and i i think that the the overlap between the competition itself and bracket does make it a interesting investment for everybody instead of just a team building exercise for a select few so this is nice

36:31Speaker 1

exactly and that was sort of my my plan was like how can we involve everyone

36:36Speaker 3

mhmm

36:37Speaker 1

and i think that this is working really well-to-do that for sure yeah i do wanna show bracket just one more time and see you know a quick analysis because dylstack is way up there i just noticed mhmm which is interesting that's really interesting he's been a little quieter in this game so far so well

36:55Speaker 3

you know people don't know i i guess that that's not that's not really clear to the audience necessarily so brian i think it was i mean it was pretty pretty pretty good call

37:07Speaker 1

brian was toward the bottom at the very at at like this whole time yeah mhmm he's been low

37:13Speaker 2

well what what's interesting about this too and

37:18Speaker 2

the average user wouldn't unless they're into other betting markets they may not recognize this there is a difference between the value of the share of of the outcome versus how how many owners there are

37:37Speaker 1

mhmm right

37:37Speaker 2

so if the price is high mhmm but the owner's count is few then it means that there are a few that hold a lot which isn't necessarily a good gauge of how they will fare in the future

37:51Speaker 3

interesting

37:52Speaker 1

right you got some big buys on ted for example

37:56Speaker 2

mhmm yeah no and and that's to be expected you know with visibility familiarity people like to to invest in things that are familiar

38:08Speaker 2

but in the future and you know tammy you you've probably already thought about this and accounted for it when bracket really starts to take off there's a whole other level of gamesmanship that comes into play where people will find undervalued positions and pump a lot of value into it and then so out of the blue someone will say option x y z is going nuts i gotta get in on this action wait for it to to go up knowing that maybe it doesn't have a chance and then completely liquidate and just turn a profit but not be in it for the long term so

38:45Speaker 3

they based on a on

38:50Speaker 1

a a person

38:50Speaker 2

yeah yeah you see it on

38:52Speaker 1

a predictable time we talked about brian brennan the other day and he's gone up quite a bit because he was way at the bottom the other day and same thing kristen's had a little rise i think riley and ivy are way undervalued

39:05Speaker 2

i i i think

39:06Speaker 1

way undervalued also

39:07Speaker 3

let's see who works on that

39:09Speaker 1

i don't i i they they're both like riley played crypto the game i don't know if i remember how long she lasted mhmm and ivy like literally has survivor former survivor players coaching her literal like wow so

39:29Speaker 3

wait probably

39:30Speaker 1

do with that what you will

39:32Speaker 3

so how many people are voted out and so there's there's

39:35Speaker 1

next time we're gonna have seven people voted out

39:39Speaker 3

seven out four from one team four from from the other

39:43Speaker 1

probably it's gonna depend on a few things okay so it's gonna depend on how they do in in the challenge and yes you will have four from one three from the other whoever team wins will only have to vote out three but they'll still have to vote out three also the top player from each one will be immune interesting so we're throwing in some things and then there's also like i said there's a hidden immunity idol that's already out there there's another one that will be released later today so it could those could come into play as well interesting

40:22Speaker 2

so it's

40:22Speaker 1

gonna get interesting yeah

40:24Speaker 2

i don't know i don't envy them

40:26Speaker 1

yeah it's gonna get a little complicated

40:28Speaker 3

had a really cool idea which was use programmatic in the chat use programmatic direct casts to publish the log of the group chat after so you you know that it can't get spilled too early but because i i i don't know i it it just would it would be

40:48Speaker 1

it's fun

40:49Speaker 3

able to see who's active who is contributing like you know

40:53Speaker 1

but i yeah i'm trying to figure out like so that we talked about this the other day like usually when you watch survivor you're watching it months after it's ended so it doesn't impact the gameplay at all everything we do that we talk about on here could impact the gameplay actually that's that's a a different approach yeah

41:11Speaker 2

which you

41:12Speaker 1

could wrap up

41:12Speaker 2

an excellent point and i think that this would be a worthwhile take would be and i don't know what the mechanism would be but to have those talking head segments where yeah say hypothetically after memes is complete you grab three and say ivy tell me about your experience yeah with this you know or hey things got spicy there for a second and then just get that thirty second clip so that we have a little bit of insight into what's going on

41:41Speaker 1

so i had an idea i'm really glad you said that so i had an idea yesterday and i'm just gonna i'm gonna make this optional for all the players and i was gonna drop this in their chats later if they i'm i'm trying to figure out the best incentive for this so it'll probably be a little bit of d gen and maybe something else mhmm if they do a dracula like little confessional and then post it either on dracula or they can post directly on warpcast in the cast out channel mhmm that will that will be like some kind of incentive for doing that and it can be their own behind the scenes sort of confessional take on what's been happening so i'm gonna i'm gonna throw that out to them and have it be optional but i'll do some tipping around those and do some other kind of incentive on those as well so

42:28Speaker 2

it would be good to be structured in a way where you decide the prompt

42:33Speaker 1

yeah

42:33Speaker 2

something that as an audience member what do you want to know

42:38Speaker 1

well what do you want to know let's go with that

42:40Speaker 2

what do i want to know

42:41Speaker 1

what do you wanna know what would be your prompt and tim if you have one also what do you wanna know from the players

42:49Speaker 2

without thinking about it too much the first place i go is

42:56Speaker 2

and i don't know specifically what i would do but there would be something that was visible to everyone that we could ask about and okay i would like to know specifically from one person their take but without coordination with anyone else i don't know there there might be some sort of clever thing that can be done with it like hypothetically everyone could contribute something to you and at random you pick three that get posted so it's like they

43:30Speaker 1

they can't gain the game okay that's interesting

43:33Speaker 3

so what i mean the the thing that's gonna be interesting in my opinion is the is when the votes are when the votes stop being civil

43:44Speaker 1

yeah which

43:44Speaker 3

may happen next week

43:45Speaker 1

which will be tuesday you mean tuesday

43:49Speaker 3

when the votes when the votes are like a little bit a little bit less consensus a little bit less agreement

43:57Speaker 2

mhmm

43:58Speaker 3

i obviously just wanna hear who'd you vote for and why like i definitely wanna know i wanna hear explain i wanna i wanna see people wriggle and squirm to try to like you know say how they love somebody but they voted for them for this reason or whatever

44:14Speaker 1

i i thought about doing that like where they hold up the vote you know and then talk you know they talk into the camera really quick about why they're voting for that person oh i i think the reason i didn't require any on camera stuff is because not everybody's comfortable with that so i just wanna put that like as a requirement but i do wanna some way encourage that and it could be that could be the prompt right why did you vote out each each tribe has voted somebody out yeah but we we kinda know the answer so it's a little meh yeah meh so maybe a little bit more like what's what's your favorite thing that's happening behind the scenes what what was your favorite moment of this challenge might be a little more entertaining at this point but i agree with you next week that could be a very different scenario that would be what i'd wanna know also yeah

45:02Speaker 2

you know what could be really good is because you're a trusted neutral party if for whatever incentive i don't i don't you know yeah think about whatever incentive there would be but if there was a

45:21Speaker 2

contribute a

45:24Speaker 2

an honest but you know a very candid but

45:31Speaker 2

i don't know how to say this like i hate the term spicy but like something that is like and it can be on a delayed fuse where you hold on to it and it's going to be released to channel to to challenges from now where it is actually a scenario where where ted is like like you know i don't trust so and so like yeah i'm working with so and so and this it could be fake but it would be better if it was real and then so that way if the person who gave the take is voted off it doesn't make a difference if it was like you know screw that guy like i don't i don't think that they're working with the team or whatever like getting some off

46:12Speaker 1

the table that's some i think that's some of the other parts of this that we really won't get until the very very end mhmm or at least when certain people are out because it because it'll reveal too much about their ongoing strategy

46:27Speaker 2

right

46:27Speaker 1

like i know there are alliances i know there are multiple chats by the way they've i by the way ted posted something in their wow wow chat about she doesn't know we have this other group chat i'm like i know you have this other group chat and i know there are multiple other group chats yeah i have people telling me stuff also i'm just not revealing it all so yeah there's i think a lot of that we won't be able to get until it's all over because it will it will mess up their game it'll mess up their gameplay

47:00Speaker 2

well there there's a lot of this is between us and i'm like i don't have a dog in this fight but here's what i would do if i were you don't screw it up

47:13Speaker 1

by the way cameron i saw the trusted in quotes he doesn't know if i'm trusted apparently

47:19Speaker 2

yeah

47:20Speaker 1

trusted and he also wants he also said that he suggested the incentive be an immune hidden immunity idol interesting that is interesting idea that could be a random poll

47:34Speaker 2

and i will say this too and i i will validate or at least instill that level of of trust as you the the the centralized

47:46Speaker 1

the game master

47:47Speaker 2

hub the game master

47:48Speaker 1

the jeff's approach of it all yes

47:50Speaker 2

because the thing is too is that if you prove not to be no one's ever gonna do this again

47:56Speaker 3

of course

47:57Speaker 2

so i i will put out my my weak endorsements to say that like i'm not concerned about that and also like i'm not even included and so many things that you've said have been like well i'm you know take me out of that equation like i don't wanna hear it and it was something completely innocuous so yeah don't worry about that

48:20Speaker 1

yeah it's it's really interesting to see you know just see how it's all playing out i'm i'm loving it a from a social gameplay like perspective from the gameplay it's really interesting to see how it's all

48:33Speaker 3

played out one quick question is there anything that we can do to make more of farcaster aware of how fun this this

48:44Speaker 1

just share it you know i know you have been like share and and this is really amazing just putting like the the you know surveys out and and just sharing your thoughts on it i love it anytime you're doing that

48:57Speaker 3

i think the professionals also

48:59Speaker 1

yeah i think i'll try and get something going with that and just make it optional and give them an incentive to do it i think an immunity an immunity hidden immunity idol is too much for that but i'll have to think that through down the road a better way to do that because i already have the next one ready to go but i'll think that through and havening is huge the havening is big so i think those confessionals will be a lot of fun so a how did how did you vote and why will be a great great thing for them to record and post somewhere after the fact so we'll see how it goes and there even could be situations where we may end up with tiebreakers we may there may be a lot of things because that's got so many votes involved it could be very interesting so tuesday will be interesting and jace you're welcome to come back as are the two voted out players but since they're they're busy i think that's the reason they're voted out in the first place i'm not really expecting them to come on but you are welcome to come back and misha's welcome

50:00Speaker 3

we'd be glad to

50:02Speaker 1

we'd love to yeah we'd love to have you here i think you've added a lot of color commentary and i love it so much so we've got a wrap we're running a little bit over i was i was hoping to do about forty five minutes we've ran a little bit over veracchio game is still going on so make sure you check that out if you the mole and wow wow packs are still available correct

50:24Speaker 3

yep yep

50:25Speaker 1

to claim okay

50:26Speaker 3

yeah so if you as

50:27Speaker 1

a you can see yeah if you haven't claimed if you have our hyper sub make sure you jump in it's in the gm forecaster channel i'll i think i recasted it yesterday go grab your free packs you know you've got them there they're waiting for you and i'm looking forward to monday's game we'll announce it on gm farcaster 08:30am eastern and it will officially start at noon eastern 9am pacific for the players but everyone will be able to play along on this one so it'll be fun and there will be a prize i'll explain more for non cast out players who are playing this particular game so it'll be a lot of fun yeah i'm excited

51:10Speaker 2

that's exciting

51:11Speaker 1

just getting you going yeah it's gonna be fun and and i have to say and this goes for horse facts especially and for the other people i'm chatting with that i will shout out once we reveal what these challenges are so helpful so willing to like customize things like i can't thank you enough for playing along with us so thank you horse facts for the yoink game and thank you to redacted person who i will reveal on monday for all the work they're doing in the background and when you see it you're gonna be like oh my god that's very cool it's dan so i'm excited it's not dan dan dan no dan knows what the hell is going on he just saw like random memes about himself yesterday and he has no idea what's happening

51:56Speaker 2

dan is hand drawing t shirts for us right now

51:59Speaker 1

right now it's a funny he has no idea where castout is i'm sure he will he will soon but i'm sure he just sees like random memes and has no idea what's happening but yeah you can you know for anybody who's in the audience for you to just share what we're doing you know recast this i'm gonna have this episode and the tuesday episode i didn't get a chance to put that out there both of them will be out later today and those will go out onto our whole jamfarcaster feed and hopefully folks will enjoy that and catch up it'll give them a weekend to catch up before the havening so exciting exciting stuff we're moving this along it's gonna be an individual game very soon

52:39Speaker 2

thanks for having me

52:40Speaker 1

thank you and thank you tldr for being here appreciate you and everything with bracket game and that's it folks we will see you i'll see you monday for jamfarcaster tuesday for cast out edition and with that bye bye

52:57Speaker 2

bye bye