Transcript: GM Farcaster ep238 Friday April 25, 2025 with @esteez.eth /farcon-nyc

NounishProf, Adrienne, esteez.eth ยท GM Farcaster

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we it'll it'll happen it'll happen right

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as you say it'll happen yeah i'm having

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some weird issues this morning where and you can see it happening right now with my glitchy hat all my settings were like i had to reset everything and oh my god and my name is wrong as well look

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oh anish we're having major issues and streamyard won't let you change it i think unless you get out

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of yeah unless it get completely out and come back so we're just gonna leave it but also like my background's doing weird things so anyway happy friday we're gonna start the we're gonna start the show we're gonna start with a little intro we'll be back in forty seconds hopefully we'll be better

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welcome to gm farcaster bringing you everything from breaking news to spicy memes to the deep lore shaping this vibrant digital community more than just a show gm farcaster is your digital third space where the community connects the stories unfold and the culture thrives whether you're a daily caster or just dropping by we've got the latest buzz to keep you plugged in so grab your coffee and let's dive in with your hosts nanish proff and adrianne for another episode of gm farcaster

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gm farcaster it is a very happy friday april 25 and you are here with anish professor anish professor and adrianne lord help me for twenty nine minutes of forecast renews to start your day and coming up in just a little bit we will have emma from the far con team joining us to talk all things far con and i'm tweeting that out as well so that maybe some folks join us to hear all about what's going on adrienne how are you doing this morning i'm obviously having some issues

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well i every morning in new york i wake up and play the game am i sick or is it allergies and fun when we're lucky it's both so i don't

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good times

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yeah for those coming into new york bring your claritin and your zyrtec and all the things

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all the things

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the pollen is on fire it's

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nice great fantastic well it's that time of year this is spring spring in spring in the northeast what are you gonna do i'm looking forward to it because i it's starting to really heat up here so like midday is getting a little meh so i'm excited to get away for a little bit

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what do you guys do it's only april what do you guys do all june july august

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stay inside stay inside you if you're gonna do anything outdoors in florida in the summer you do it by like now like 09:00 is pretty much cut off like you're done and then you just yeah you're indoors for the summer it's like your winter just flipped and then we go north is what we normally do is we just go north so i'm gonna spend a lot of time north of here in june and july actually the worst time of year is september because that's when it's just like you can't go anywhere and it's just gross so don't come to florida in september anyway

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enough for a weather report this morning

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it tracks we do a it does track

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we're not doing the weather well they did cut a lot from the you know national weather service in noaa so maybe we'll have to yeah i'll be doing hurricane reports just looking out my window okay it's coming here we go we did that i did that once with my mom during one of the hurricanes and we were like kept jumping on facebook to and like doing and it was really funny because she was crazy so

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they still do there's still morning shows every day like who's watching them i'm so interested in who's watching what and occasionally i watch a morning show

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i do i watch i like the today show sometimes sometimes america good morning america especially if they have someone on that i'm interested in that i wanna see or something like that but yeah a lot of people

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a lot

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of people do by the way i keep watching five like what is it five minutes five things to start your day or something like that with cnn and it's on like streaming too where you can just catch it somewhere and and i was like that's really what we should be doing but instead it's twenty nine minutes ish and we try krav triple fisting drinks oh yes always always i was like what i was oh yeah this is yeah yes i need lots of caffeine this has extra caffeine so i'm not quite awake i'm having a rough morning as you can tell by this weird glitchiness that's happening

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in the past you guys heard the drama in the green room before we started and i can and it will explain what my last cast

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it's so funny too because i this morning i was like i had everything ready to go like i was good and then i go to log in and i'm like what is going on today alright but anyway let's move on we've got farcaster news to get to this is from v we're considering ending support for v one frames in three months why it has little usage most devs move to many apps it simplifies the protocol for client builders and new devs it simplifies the ux for users only one type of app in the feed over 90% of devs we polled support this decision so what do you think

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get rid of them yeah

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i

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don't some of them aren't

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working either that's another problem

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and there's nothing that you could do in v one that you can't do in a mini app

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except for one thing one thing old yoink is so much better why i just like it better it's it's easier it's smoother without the transactions so that's all that's the only thing i can think of that i'm like

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i like to train on that one like off chain yeah

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i think it's better off chain

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you could still build that in a mini app though

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you could i know let's see if we this is what i need for horse facts to do of course before we before we get rid of v one frames otherwise i'm good

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and if not now when so i don't know who's yeah yeah

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it's time

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i didn't even i

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it's time and also it won't be supported in other clients like coinbase wallet so you're gonna need to adjust that anyways if you want that distribution so it makes a lot of sense at this point especially giving a three month sort of wind down because i've reported a couple of times with minting on manifold and highlights frames they're not working so and linda has reached out to them so maybe this would push them to make it a little bit of a priority so we can get a better experience for them

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yeah i mean the flip side developers will get frustrated when things change so fast because then it's like oh i built this app and you know i don't really wanna spend my life maintaining it but i think that's kind of the double edged sword of building on an emerging network

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trying to

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find what the standard is and i think like the the mini apps aka you know formerly known as frames v two are so different than frames v one

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yeah

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like it feels like a different thing it doesn't feel like a iteration

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definitely it's definitely a different thing it they and it just has so much more power essentially like it can do so much more so yeah i agree so start to make that transition folks because you may be forced to if you don't do it now this was funny this is interesting so this is going to be what it said this is going to be bet the best launch ever so this this being a guess as to what the team is cooking on web and v's guess or projection is that we're getting google ads i don't think so the other one i saw was a winamp and i couldn't find it i was trying to find it right now and i couldn't find it like that on the other hand would be pretty cool this would not so these just trolling us don't get too concerned but i'm i am interested because it definitely they shifted some things and i can tell yes they definitely did because i had to change what we could see here on the screen and it was because oh

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that's right

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yeah yeah they made some they're making some adjustments they're doing some things in the background so we shall see soon this is from me and i've noticed it too we noticed that some spam accounts were getting through our spam filter which was slightly affecting this week's ratings we'll be fixing shortly by labeling them correctly so this was in response to fungible saying my rate of casting hasn't changed much over the past couple weeks but my rank on the leaderboard is absolutely tanking ego down bad farcaster up bigly i think he was saying he was thinking it was more from new people coming in and and this and that but it also could be related to some some spam issues so fix is coming but if you see like something crazy going on it's not a bad idea to call it out just in case and this from dwr this is super helpful if you are building a mini app or want to a few tips for mini app devs one simplify screens two bigger buttons touch targets three remove unnecessary crypto complexity or hide it in advanced view i'm using the excellent crowdfund mini app as an example below one consider moving anything optional to after you complete the primary action so in this case the comment would come after the donation two make the primary action adding my own big front and center three usdc plus logo the wallet selected are not useful for 95% of people four the available balance is useful so consider making that a clear secondary piece of info five make the primary button big and easy to tap on mobile so i didn't really have a big issue with this particular app like i don't like i know he was just using it as an example i think the points are well taken because i was just looking at something that toady hawk is launching on monday which i'll tell you about later and there was a lot of text and explanations and he's like oh yeah and i was like this is a lot like i'd probably move this somewhere else or you know whatever and he said yeah i really should have you miss old eyes take a look at things for

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i was just gonna say something

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and i'm like yeah you should actually

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i was just gonna say the same thing by the way tony like you laugh like you got like a few more years

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i know he's like

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he's he's not much younger than you i should say he's a lot younger than me but i do i do agree with this in general like make it as like simplify it and then add other you know spots where they can see that additional information so yeah that makes sense to me

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yes but yeah

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yeah as someone with old s i's it's really really helpful but i think dan's point is when you're app designers you're thinking like you have so much real estate because you're building for like a big screen obviously if you're building for mobile you have so much less real estate so you need people to just see but a mini app you even have less real estate you're like a small little app inside of a small ass little app so

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and we know that most people are using this on mobile so really

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that's right

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optimize for mobile and because it'll look you know fine otherwise so optimize for mobile but cool to see all these new apps coming and there's a ton of them and it's been really fun to try new things out so i tried out debbie's never have i ever and that was really cute so there's just people experimenting with some really fun things so go check them out when you see them on the feed

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did debbie build never have i ever that's her app

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yes

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i didn't know that yeah oh that's so fun okay yeah

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i know

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it is fun it's cute yeah so lots of fun experiments happening and i'm really excited for next week for that because i think we'll see even more at a much you know higher level because everyone will be in the in the senior zone this was just funny from johnny mac and if we weren't having farcon on this would have been my background life goes on oh unfollowing anyone who complains about not getting enough free money was nonlinear thought here and i gotta tell you i i get it so what happened after we were off on wednesday is we there was a airdrop there was a launch a token launch with zuora and a lot of people got some free money and a lot of people complained about how little free money they got but meanwhile it's you know it's going pretty well for them it the launch went pretty good minus you know the miners and it's gonna be listed on coinbase shortly so do with that what you will nfa dyor not suggesting anything but i also found this interesting this was just six hours ago from brian armstrong he was showing the coinbase ad and said need to coin this and i was like wow okay so it's made its way up and by the way this ad is awesome like i just really well done and so kudos to the marketing team or the ad team so well done but i was surprised to see brian saying coin need to coin this that to me was surprised i was curious if he did it on twitter also and i'm not sure if he did did you happen to notice perchance

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no

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i'm looking at one real quick

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that's this is a super cool ad i want isn't it yeah

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they did so well with that

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what i wanna note is i don't have design expertise like to the design how how like how do you make it how hard is that to make what tools are you using it's

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oh yeah i'm sure it's i think they used ai for this if i remember correctly this was done with ai but you still have to have a designer to make it this amazing

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i

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am scrolling down brian

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i don't see it yeah i don't see anything do you see anything

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no because he will get raked through the mud if he's right tweets tweets need to coin this

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yeah but you know we appreciate it i'm firecaster so thank you for that

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okay so gout tweeted whoever coinbase is working with to make these ads deserves a raise absolute heat so he repeated that really good

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yeah really really good alright moving on

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so they're gonna play this so this is an ad they're playing during nba games

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yep it's during the during the playoffs yep yeah coinbase is a big sponsor of the nba that's why you'll see for on a lot of the hoops you'll see the coinbase logo so they're doing a lot of big activation alright moving on and speaking of coinbase wilson cusack hi from coinbase wallet on warpedcast and varun saying checks out so now you can see where if in case you missed this part the sent from will now tell you which client the cast is was sent from so very cool they're doing they're doing a lot of testing i've been seeing a few of these i know oxbit has been doing some testing and this from monary in related news mini apps are coming to coinbase wallet we've gotten tons of questions on how it works and what devs need to do to get it right from day one i'm hosting a workshop with dilstek and soe to walk through the farcaster spec common pitfalls and how to make sure your mini app works across clients for maximum distribution rsvp below and you'll see hey adrienne i tagged you

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yes oh i saw

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i tagged you in it and oxford said you should definitely join so adrienne you wanna answer that question from the crowd

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zoe and and zoe's watching from twitter

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so you're zoe

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yeah i'm zoe

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where's my mini app is that the question

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that was the question

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it's in development guys it's a work in progress it's wip it's work in progress

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i have so many questions well i by the way zoe i did watch zoe did a livestream to introduce base minikit i watched the first few minutes before she got into the coding just of slides and it looked like the base mini kit is something you can add to an existing app if you wanna convert it to something easily it's like here's your app how do you convert it into a mini app so you get easy access to farcaster sdk so you can interact with farcaster feed and users and wallet cool so when i was trying to build my mini app this week i was kind of starting from scratch i'm now thinking maybe i wanna just build my gm farcaster basic app and then try to retrofit it later and i think i'm gonna do the thing that varun talked about when you're learning i'm gonna get a one on one tutor

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ah good idea there's a few there's a few available and i think there's one in the chat right now so there you go so he might be your one on one tutor amazing we have a few more things we wanna get through and then we're bringing up emma i see her in the green room hi emma to talk all things farcon which i'm really excited about but really quick this is also from jesse on this point we're rebuilding coinbase wallet from the ground up including incorporating the full farcaster social feed and many apps that you can interact with directly within the feed it's starting to roll out very soon i think the powerful thing about adding this to coinbase wallet is we'll be able to meet existing customers where they are this helps give apps more distribution and helps users find apps they might be interested in i think this is going to drive more engagement for builders like the ones reading this which i'm really excited about so here and this was from julian web three what's the roadmap for farcaster integration so that was in response to that i think it's you know i think we're gonna see it's gonna be an amazing couple of months starting with far con next week so really looking forward to seeing this roll out and we'll have more on that next week a few other things this is really cool this is a new frame called tippin what if every like came with a tip now it's possible use farcaster like cast receive likes tip and earn automagically set up your warplet to tip whenever you like a cast with tippin tip tip in earn.com frame below so if you want to tip 10ยข on everyone's cast that you like you can load this up and then you can tip all people so i have not done this yet but i thought this was really cool very cool frame gonna skip around a little bit this is really cool this is from mjc this is politiswap similar to like i don't even exactly know it might be like a poly market but you're betting on politicians in the us and it's kind of funny so there is a airdrop if you have your twitter connected to warpcast and you're willing to tweet something you can get an airdrop of their p swap token but all of the trading is going on in eth right now but go check it out it's kind of a interesting approach something fun and new this is from miguel roy from nayanar want to find your favorite x follows here on farcaster easily look them up by their x handle we also call that twitter using our new api try it out and let us know what you think so if you're looking for somebody that you follow on twitter and want to find them on warpcast there is a way to do that this was from yes yes really appreciate everyone who's donated so far this is help farcaster grow by looking at farcaster data and this is part of the new crowd the one of the new crowdfund frames that somebody had created like yesterday so i think this was seed club who created this frame actually or sorry this mini app but gives you opportunity to kind of look through exactly what they're doing and then you can donate if you want see who else is supported and for this particular

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activation he is going to be doing some work around i think it's he around farcaster data and sharing that information so go check that out if you are interested skipping that we gotta do one big oh and then there was also this that happened this was amazing to see let's help same frame let's help alada a dog needs a little backup and this within i think it was within three hours they crowdfunded the whole thing to help this puppy so we love puppies there you go we do love puppies speaking of this is from jake the barker token in case you wanna launch your own dog's coin on zuora and there's also a barker token so something fun and a cup one more big thing that we have to talk about okay this is my last my last big thing before we switch over to farcon grace post this yesterday hi i'm looking for a plus one to my bestie's wedding in greece qualifications free june looks good in a linen suit won't embarrass me in front of my college friends good travel buddy serious inquiries only tag your hot single friends or dm me ps i'm five eleven in heels not a deal breaker more of an fyi i posted farcon side event idea prospective that should have been prospective plus ones have to come sing karaoke at karaoke happy hour and while there adrienne and i grill them i mean this to me was a winning winning idea but someone else

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is he dead

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i think so because maybe not we'll see but this happened okay so jc4p launched a frame apply here so we can help grace pick so you can apply or vote so right now we have a few prospective folks who have applied including woj bert wurst newing nigg i don't even know half these people oh alina ferri is putting in the mix i think erica was in here too there's a few a few folks few folks in here so yeah it's it's growing so she's got a lot of options to choose from now i mean bert to me seems like the obvious one and then this from jc4p was so funny finally understanding the fact that men do not put effort into dating apps so this was wojis application funny handsome smart you know what are your interests annoying ted how would your friends describe you dog and then burt wurst had had a thought on that that mfr is not a dog because burt's a dog and then this from dan all social networks and developer platforms eventually turn into dating apps he's been saying that for years

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and podcasts i'm just saying we've teased it i think it needs to happen

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it might be time and then also should you want to bet on this who should be grace's plus one at her bestie's wedding in greece there you go you can now make your prediction on ponder alright we're gonna stop there and bring up our friend who i'm so excited to talk with today emma

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she oh hi that

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is just i am

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yeah exactly sorry i was playing around with the this app for like ten minutes trying to figure out how to get the microphone to work nothing worked except for my airpods so oh weird i'm just

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you sound good no that's okay i'm just

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glad that i got on time

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yeah i i was having some i think they did something to their settings or something because i was having some issues this morning i don't know if it was me or them but anyway we're so glad you're here

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you made it

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we made it and i'm so excited to chat we there's like i can't believe it's a week away and i'm kind of freaking out

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i can't believe it's a week away

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i'm doing okay i feel like now i'm like everyone is getting more excited like the closer that it gets so i'm trying to ride that vicariously through everyone even though there's like a bunch of work to do but i think we finished badges i finished badges last night at like eight or nine in the office so that is at least done that's big yeah yeah our office looks like a production line but that is all done everything like mapped and and ready to go so i'm really i'm really excited about that and that makes it feel real because everyone's pfps are on them so you sort of get like pretty excited seeing all of these all of these badges and knowing all these people are gonna be coming in soon

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speaking of i have to share this one let me get a little start here i guess this was from varun he had a great idea for you

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oh i know i know dan and i were still in the office when this came through we were like

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should i tell

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him like i was

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gonna tell him

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i was like it is a good idea

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i was just looking because i thought i had my one from last year handy and i don't but what i do have is this

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oh god

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adrian knows

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i love that

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that is truly like if you know you know

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if you know you know % so that's that's pretty big yeah that's pretty big

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this is such a classic varun like you can tell he's the cto that doesn't go to any crypto conferences because one if you've been to farcon and you know icebreaker you don't get it

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like i know but well he has his own badge he i think he wore it all last year he did so yeah

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by the way there was also the purple prop that for purple members someone was printing what do you call those little pins

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like a

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special like a special like panel buttons yeah buttons with pfps yeah so i don't know if this varun i think this cast was tone deaf

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yeah so funny for those who are just just listening it's this is from me farcon idea pfp stickers i think there are a lot of missed connections at farcon because people can't recognize each other from the internet wearing pfp sticker badges fixes this someone build this in time and and charge for the stickers or free and

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or freeze your girl if you have a ticket yeah exactly

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so funny but that was really really funny and immediately you had ted going

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yeah exactly yeah

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no we got it we've got it ruined don't worry

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i'm glad that like i'm glad that he's recognizing the value in the pfps like i yeah i think someone even responded in this thread and was like oh i was i always print out my pfps and i added to like any event badge

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by the way

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yeah like it did not because it i mean it's like one of the biggest missed opportunities that i feel like is not standard for any event conference is having that i mean crypt like the concept of a pfp is like pretty you know entrenched in crypto but even at other crypto conferences like even having i remember ens used to do those like printed yeah that is which was like a little bit more helpful but like you know some but you have so much online context for people that like it's it's completely divorced obviously when you're irl so yeah i think

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yeah i absolutely need people's i need people's pfps or otherwise i'm not gonna have a clue

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it also sort of makes it feel like you're in sims a little bit like you're like oh like we we know each other we talk all the time

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we talk all the time yeah yeah so the i'm excited for that i and so don't don't worry vy you'll be able to recognize us and also adrienne did share this so that everyone recognizes her perfect yeah no problem what's really funny is people always recognize us more than we recognize them so there you go this is the website with all the info let me move this over here so everything you need to know for about side events about anything the map the schedule everything is here so go check that out if you are attending far con or even if you're just gonna be in new york city there's a ton of yeah

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there's so many side events we get them every day and we try to turn them around as as quickly as we can

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there's a lot yeah

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and i mean obviously these are all the ones that are formally scheduled like there's so many like impromptu sort of like serendipitous ones that ends up happening of course yeah but yeah there's certainly no shortage of of events

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unbelievable like i can't even like this is a little overwhelming yeah i'm still going and then you have the partners hey look at that like jamfarcaster icebreaker zerion stan with crypto arkype poap purple talent protocol strobe ventures base blackbird privy eas variant nanar nouns and paragraph and then you also have your frequently asked questions in here so definitely check out this website before you just throw things on on warm cast because there's a really good chance that the answer is there and also this is incredible like the map with all the side events

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yeah it was hard to get this screenshot because there's so many that are in close proximity to each other so i had to like move a few around just so you could visually see it but this is a really i mean again i will continue to say like charles is like an absolute go to designer and he is amazing he he's on vacation right now so like it and has still been helping me out with dreamer so he is truly the mvp mvp of this map

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well tell him i have i'll i'll make sure he gets a swag bag with all the yes yes so we'll make sure we take care of we take care of boop we know him as boop he also goes by charles i will never call him charles that's

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i actually we i i first met him at each chicago two years ago wearing his goggles like he was wearing goggles when i and we were like where are those not transparently not necessarily because i wanted them but more so i was like this feels like it's beyond a stylistic choice and then he was there with his brother and and then we realized that he was in williamsburg and it's yeah it's been a a truly like really cool thing to finally work with

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ones but yeah these do get attention

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yes

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like these are

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more of a choice

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yes yes yes definitely that's so funny yeah they're metamunk the rat lab rat labs they're metamunk and boop known them for quite a while and but he is just incredible designer the site looks incredible really excited to see all the signage and everything like just gonna be amazing oh and then merch you've got a whole bunch of swag too that yes

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that's gonna be available yeah so we we're excited so we have a we have like a merch setup that's gonna be in the base loft that's gonna be powered by slice i think we you like getting all of the merch stuff together from like a design and and ordering like we're using two different vendors because we have two different styles of things and you know a bunch of like intricacies that ended up coming up with production so base and the farcon team will both have merch there and they both which i think are very you know we had a conversation with them like two weeks ago and i was like basically like how much are you guys ordering like i don't like is it gonna be like analysis paralysis for people is it gonna be too much of one thing or whatever and then once we kind of showed each other our merch we're like oh these are like very different like never mind

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right

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so that's i mean yeah it's exciting like i think the i think that there's a lot of variety but i also think at the same time they they sort of hit like a stylistic tone of it being in new york but in two very different ways which is really cool so i think it'll be just just like the the merch from last year is like was so congruent with like all of the branding that was around farcom that year it being very west coast

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i feel

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like very venice leaned a lot into like and leaned a lot into like that base blue was like everywhere and it was very specific and everyone sort of recognized that this year is it all i can say is it will be very different and i think that that's like i think that that's great like i think that the best merch is merch where you immediately are like i know exactly where this is from and like i'm taken back to that moment and it's not like a t shirt that says like blah blah conference twenty nineteen

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so

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is there a lot

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of black yep okay so there is but there's also non black so we had a lot of people say like you know make sure you have other colors but like as new yorkers like that's all we wear so oh that's right and it's all we wear and it's like it's i mean you can argue about whether it's like a true neutral color but we were like no i think we we talked about us three like we've talked about this on a on a call before we were very specific and intentional with sort of like what is the overall ethos of the event and then have everything sort of like come downstream from that and i think there was at least charles and i definitely align design wise towards things that are like simplistic and clean and not like you know no like over maximalist like nothing like that so like we definitely have like a design bias but we were really inspired by this concept of sort of you know when steve jobs used to do keynotes or when he used to do like product demos or even like early early ops google io like sort of like the polish of a keynote was something that we really liked and really wanted to bring if you could like basically bring the polish of a keynote without the formality of you know like a 5,000 person conference like what does that look like and so we and you will see this like reflected in the merge we sort of we sort of came up with this concept of like this is the this is basically the network shareholder meeting and not merkel shareholder meeting but like this is you know we are all unified around having like a single vested interest in farcaster and so if we had a shareholder meeting like what does that look like and so i think you will you'll definitely see that like reflected in the merge but hopefully you'll see that reflected i think in the event

37:41Speaker 1

i want one of everything yes

37:43Speaker 2

of course

37:44Speaker 1

and i've already got my hat i've been wearing i know

37:46Speaker 2

i love your i know every time we get on a call you have that hat and i love your backgrounds they actually look really nice

37:51Speaker 1

yes so this is mhmm and speaking of this is all charles that we've been talking about this is from his designs so yeah had to do it okay we're gonna let's talk about a few more things this is from dylan and we have the builder's day hackathon on thursday summit on friday so this is from dylstack helpful developer resources just drop whether you're hacking in next week's builder day at farcon nyc or just building on farcastr overall so this will be really helpful to take a look at either on the day or before to kind of get ramped up and then this small friday ship to farcon nyc mini app attendee directory you can filter by builder's day and summit and when you click on a user you'll see the credential work history powered by icebreaker how cool is that check it out below and start getting to know your fellow attendees this is super slick let's see if it'll open for me i might have to log in or something but really sick it's slick really nice well done

39:03Speaker 2

he's such an amazing builder

39:04Speaker 1

like you can look at like the design you get the the slick design up here too with this little spinning thing i mean amazing so if i start to let me just see if i can bring myself up it should work maybe it's not working i might not be logged in but it's i was using it the other yesterday and it was great love it so really well done and so if you're curious about who's gonna be there you're looking to see meet up with somebody go check it out really cool

39:39Speaker 1

couple other quick things oops not that i wanted to point this out because i don't know if you saw this

39:43Speaker 2

this is a quick note of what i said the first thing i saw when i woke up like three hours ago and i was like reading it with one eye open

39:51Speaker 1

it was just lovely this is a quick note from ted and for those who don't know ted basically was running far con last year with a team but did you know was basically be was the emma of last year quick note i've been so busy that i haven't had a chance to express how excited i am for far con nyc next week a year ago erica mcbain and a whole crew of us were on calls daily running around like crazy sleep deprived and nervous to host everyone for far con twenty twenty four in venice the amount of energy that goes into an experience like this is indescribable because it is driven exclusively by an irrational love for the community there's no other explanation why any of us would undertake it and the love estes dottie that's emma here has put into farcon nyc is next level she deserves a shout out all the shout outs and all the thank yous for what i know will be another incredible farcon experience to come for the best apart as always will be the people candidly it's been pretty lonely for me since i've started at farcaster and i know the magic of our community and the charm of springtime in nyc is the perfect antidote tldr grateful for each of you especially sd study they can't wait to see some of you soon so i just thought that was so lovely and i wanted to make sure we shared it on here and thank you for all the work there's so much that goes into this i you know i'm not sure everyone fully understands if you haven't done an event

41:22Speaker 2

yeah it's it's truly like if you're in the trenches you know

41:27Speaker 1

yeah it's a lot it's a lot

41:29Speaker 2

yeah well and the goal is like you do a lot of work to make it you know hopefully seem like it was no work like that is that is the mark of success so i mean you guys have seen sort of like behind the curtain because you guys are part of it it is it is a deeply intricate thing to to pull off so i'm excite i'm excited for it though i mean we're sort of you know the summit is the summit is something that happens at i mean at this point it's three years you know it's like it happens one day a year for what like eight hours for us all to be in a room together so there's a there's a lot of pressure there but there's also a lot of you know the scarcity of the moment i think everyone's feeling and is why everyone goes to see everyone so i'm excited

42:16Speaker 1

yeah me too i'm very excited couple more more fun things this is from kojo

42:22Speaker 2

oh yes yes yes it this was supposed to be so i had asked him to do this poll and he was like oh yeah like i'll get you know like four songs then i i followed up and was like let me know when you do it like i'll i'll amplify it and he goes yes i ended up picking 11 so he he used

42:38Speaker 1

a whole totally different site

42:40Speaker 2

totally not even under yeah exactly so the i mean you know how important this is to him because he didn't even use on there

42:48Speaker 0

and

42:48Speaker 2

he said he was he was just like combing through like walkout song playlist and then just like picking the best ones from all of those so this is not without research

42:59Speaker 1

so funny and then a lot of people actually recommended my recommendation was empire state of mind i loved the cassie video i'm like i think that's perfect for this but you know you guys make your make your decisions go put your votes in but this is for dan and baroon's walk out song so if you want to stay in it go ahead and put your vote in you only have a little bit of time left one other thing i want to highlight too is alina ferri had done this fundraise crowd raise there are creator scholarships so this is for melina gm everybody farcon creator scholarship applications are now live quick summary applications will be open 9pm eastern tuesday april twenty second through 9pm eastern sunday april twenty seventh we have 27 scholarships to give away each scholarship is 200 usdc the cost of a farcon summit ticket if you received a scholarship from far con nyc coordinators or past a builder's day then you are not eligible scholarship distribution committee members are also not eligible all other artists and creators are welcome to apply this presumes that you have a ticket to far con so this is not an act not a ticket this is just a reimbursement for a ticket you've already purchased so just to make sure that's clear but very cool get your applications in if you are so inclined i think that's amazing that that came together and one last thing horse facts great advice if you're visiting for far con i encourage you to crank up your volume and play this on the subway i'm gonna recommend you do not do that but

44:34Speaker 2

i will also recommend you do not do this on the subway

44:38Speaker 1

oh it's not opening for me oh here oh it's gonna make me log in but anyway if you go and play tappy you'll understand why it's probably not a good idea to play this on the subway but you should go play it because it is kind of fun what are some advice you would give to folks coming in who are coming into to new york maybe they've never been before like any specific things that you want to let them know about and then i wanna ask you about like specific things about far con as well yeah

45:10Speaker 2

yeah if you've never been to new york before it's sort of a thing you have to experience like you can never be prepared i think one thing one thing that i did i i told the the icebreaker team in the office yesterday like take ten minutes to sit down on that website and go through and see every single side of it and any that you were even remotely interested in rsvp too just so you can get the looma invite on your calendar if you get accepted or if it's open like just proactively sort of like block your calendar yep also i will i will amplify something that rich said for the usb nayanar event like if you know you can't go i'm i feel confident that all of these side events have deep wait list like just update that you aren't going or cancel your rcp and that will clear the spot for someone else i think there's there were

46:05Speaker 0

a lot

46:06Speaker 2

of people yeah there were a lot of people that had pinged me and said like you know what's the best time to do it or what day and i'm like there is no place in new york that will be able to handle you know 200 plus people i mean nonetheless like you know 400 plus that will be at the summit like don't worry like don't worry there's gonna be people that like end up just making random plans go to other things forget about it or in the wrong side of the city took the wrong subway like don't worry about it so

46:35Speaker 0

yeah

46:36Speaker 2

there will be no shortage of activities

46:38Speaker 1

for real like it there's so much going on and we have two events i'm trying to find my cast right now that are happening so if you're gonna be there on wednesday and you're a hyper stub holder but also even if you're not you can request we're doing karaoke so emma are you coming to sing

46:55Speaker 2

with us classic

46:56Speaker 1

by the way if you have time

46:58Speaker 2

what time is it maybe if i have time

47:00Speaker 1

05:00 on wednesday it's wednesday 5pm okay

47:05Speaker 2

yeah if i'm running i might be running in the errands at the venue so i will come by if i do that perfect perfect i won't sing but i will come by

47:13Speaker 1

just you don't know

47:14Speaker 0

i was just gonna ask what track we should have queued up for you

47:18Speaker 2

no i want a moon poppy encore i want him to sing sheridan to me

47:23Speaker 1

yeah there you go

47:24Speaker 2

that is that is my request

47:25Speaker 1

well then

47:25Speaker 0

i wanna tell you the encore

47:28Speaker 2

oh and that yes yes followed by a a wrap

47:32Speaker 1

we do need that so that is on wednesday and then on friday we do have a breakfast early entry for our hyper sub only that one is much smaller so you do have to rsvp for that and that is a early access at 8am doors for everybody else open at 08:30 so if you are interested in that make sure you rsvp and this is for our hyper gm forecaster hyper sub for that one and we do have some fun swag and emma i have some fun swag for you and the team

48:08Speaker 2

okay yeah

48:09Speaker 1

i'm very excited

48:10Speaker 2

interested in how you are physically moving all of it from adrian's house to the venue that is what i'm most interested in learning we figured i need to take a picture of the other day yeah

48:22Speaker 0

i need to take a picture of the boxes that are in my basement and every day i get this ups notification like a package is arriving i'm like how are there more packages

48:30Speaker 1

how are there more they have to be almost done i think if you got i think oh my god maybe one more i'm not sure if the kendamas have arrived yet

48:40Speaker 0

they've arrived

48:41Speaker 1

yeah if they've arrived then that's the last one so we should be fine yeah i i said she might wanna consolidate because i know sometimes the packing you know they pack them in bigger boxes than they need to be but yeah it's a lot it's a lot so we're gonna bring them to my hotel room i'm gonna sort through and then i i think i'm literally gonna be like hey can i borrow a a baggage cart to bring it to the totally totally they like wandering down the streets of williamsburg with a big luggage cart in boxes so we'll figure it out

49:14Speaker 2

you at least have like a big block the whole day before like once you leave builders day like you yeah adrienne you're still hacking right

49:22Speaker 1

yeah

49:23Speaker 0

i'm well yeah

49:24Speaker 1

yeah perfect yeah i've got it i've got an idea i've got a plan we'll see how it goes okay i'm excited to see that i've got a plan so we've got a lot of swag some of the swags for all attendees some of it's for our hyper subs some of it's for vips but we got a lot of fun things from nouns so very excited about that okay what else should folks know so an email went out to to everybody who's attending so make sure you check your emails that has all the details what are some of the key points that you would want folks to know while we got you here

49:55Speaker 2

yeah i think so perhaps this is perhaps this is news i i yeah so we talked internally and i think we are not going to release the schedule we are not going to release it until the day that there like when you get there and you can see the schedule and we so we thought about there's there's two reasons for this so one is there are i will say surprises or things that will just be that are just meant for farcon and so there we are not at liberty to share everything and then the second reason which is probably more important is you know we all come together once a year for like seven hours like it's like just show up just show up and have fun just show up and be yeah just show up and be i mean like you like there is in that logistics email like obviously blackbird will be on-site so they'll be helping us out for breakfast and lunch which will be great everyone already knows the community talks that are happening but i think that and and by the way i have this exact same i have the same tendency like as both incredibly like type a and neurotic and also like being in new york and and working working in in this industry like we i think we have a general tendency to like overschedule and overanalyze and make sure like everything's on a calendar or just know like when can i when can i fit in this coffee when can i what's the last time that i can leave here to make it to this thing and i think the again sort of maybe that that ethos we have around is like this is the network shareholder meeting is that you know they're we were obviously space limited so there's only gonna be a couple of hundred people that are there it will probably be the only time for the rest of anyone's lives that these specific people are all going to be in this room talking about this thing at this time and you should just show up

51:51Speaker 1

okay you could and doors are opening general registration is opening at 08:30

51:57Speaker 2

yeah so to your point i encourage everyone to show up between 08:30 and like right before ten because that's when you are gonna get your badge you can pay with fly that you get to download blackbird have yeah like see see the whole space get your picture taken at standwithcrypto like there's there will be no shortage of things to do or see or people to talk to and then we have we have like a pretty tight schedule so i guess maybe the biggest difference that you will find from last year outside of it will feel very east coast and it'll feel very new york is that there is one main speaking hall there are no breakout spaces there's no like four talks happening at one time a big part of that is like we just don't have the space for that obviously having like a multistory building was very helpful last year and i think we are sort of prioritizing like i think adrian you had said this when we had been on a call like all learning together in one moment is like a really special thing and that's a a rarity in a rarity in crypto when so many companies are remote or just obviously not based in the same city or even the same country so there is one main speaking hall we're obviously producing all of the all of the talks and all the programming that gm broadcaster will be destroying afterwards so there there's like a pretty tight schedule there are obviously breaks we'll have like a long break for lunch you don't have to be in that speaking hall if you don't want to you know for any given any given talk but i think everyone will be pleased with the programming that we have

53:32Speaker 1

i'm really excited really really excited so there is something that you do need to get there by 09:50

53:41Speaker 2

like 09:50 yeah and that's not to be a nightmare that's more so that we need to start on time yeah and we we will basically be like cutting doors because there's not there won't be anyone that's there for for badge registration so if you don't

53:57Speaker 1

will be shut be like as soon as 09:50 goes around till about 11:30

54:02Speaker 2

eleven thirty is when that first speaking block ends and if there are any major issues that that presents i welcome anyone to just ping me on the side but yeah that is really more so that they're like

54:12Speaker 1

well so that those who are at the registration who are volunteers can actually enjoy themselves as well and be a part of what's happening and be able to you know listen to everything and you know be a part of what's happening within within the speakers in our lab so yeah amazing and then for builders day that's happening in the day before so if you're going to be coming to that event that is starting at 09:30 no do i have that right

54:42Speaker 2

it's starting at ten but it's the same thing like doris at 09:30 okay yeah and we we're excited for that because that's gonna be you know i think well

54:52Speaker 0

i think

54:53Speaker 1

yeah they're still in there they're still in there they're still in

54:57Speaker 2

yeah so that that event is gonna be a lot of fun because it's basically i don't even wanna say it's happened it's like a truly like it's like a micro like ninety minute dev day with the merkel team and linda has been so great to work with and has been so helpful with dylan like just figuring out what is the like what's the programming that we wanna go over and what is what's really sort of like the technical state of the union that like dan and bee can speak to i don't think that it'll be like i i spoke to dan earlier this week like it's not very different than the state of the union for the protocol like it's all sort of like a unified goals but yeah i mean we have over a hundred really amazing builders and devs and hackers that are coming so it'll that will be a lot of fun and then yeah from twelve we'll have the space from twelve to nine and that's just open hacking hours for people to make teams get feedback like optional workshops etcetera but it's a quick it's a quick hackathon like it's twenty four hours so that's okay

55:59Speaker 1

very quick this is really really quick and for like one of the bounties that the bounty that i'm kind of working with with nouns that is gonna be live where you're gonna be able to anyone who's hacking any of the teams if you're one of the hackers this is just going to be our nouner's favorite so there's nothing specific to do for this particular bounty anyone can submit for this and you're just going to submit on morpcast in the noun's bounty channel so just this is one of them i know there's a ton of other bounties that are gonna be available but i'm really excited to see what people build i'm just really excited to see what comes out of this

56:42Speaker 2

we we will be announcing winners at the end of the summit and sort of closing out with that ceremony which will also be i think like a special way to to edit things out

56:52Speaker 1

absolutely

56:53Speaker 2

yeah

56:54Speaker 1

i loved that last year like where it was a little bit different yeah but i loved it at the end having those you know top 10 present what they did and then see what you know see what they were and i you know specifically remember limon and and uhler and lagrange and all these different folks who were building things who are now building different things completely totally yeah and just it just kind of speaks to that you know builder ethos that is so prevalent within farcaster and i'm really excited to see what people build so i'll be there in the morning more to like capture what's happening talk about it later on adrienne's gonna be there the whole day she's gonna be hacking

57:39Speaker 2

i'm so excited for your project adrian

57:41Speaker 1

me too

57:42Speaker 2

do you have do you have an idea you don't have to share it do you have an idea of what you're gonna do

57:45Speaker 0

i have like 10 ideas that have been like

57:48Speaker 2

that i wanna build for but

57:49Speaker 0

but i wanna build one is like a separate random thing but i have a lot of ideas i wanna build for gm farcaster

57:55Speaker 1

yeah

57:56Speaker 0

definitely or not i decide to do that as part of builder day i'm also open to just like joining a team and doing something completely different and just learning how to build yeah mini apps a little better so that i can then my one idea for gm i have two ideas for gm forecaster and and one is professor i wanna create a utility that scans our show notes for all the links that we've ever shared and puts it in a database somewhere so you can query it and interact with it like we have it and it's like people are always like hey when did you feature certain casts so obviously you guys know i have my bot that has access to our transcripts but it doesn't have access to all the links we've ever pulled so that seems like something valuable obviously for gm forecaster but for the forecaster protocol network seems like that could be useful

58:42Speaker 1

i think that'd be really useful for sure

58:44Speaker 0

so that's kind of

58:45Speaker 1

and also if make sure like if people are looking for an idea cast out is gonna run starting may 12 and i'm gonna talk more about that on monday and i need like games i need yeah

59:00Speaker 2

you need yeah

59:01Speaker 1

i need you know challenges so if you're like i want to build something fun build something for cast out because i would love that and it can be something that just it doesn't have to be specifically for that it can just be a puzzle or a game or something that would make a good challenge within like a crypto the game style of game so there you go there's an idea

59:23Speaker 2

i think the biggest theme that is gonna come out of this is that like they're i i don't know if it's a theme or i i think that 90% plus of submissions will be mini apps which is probably perfect but yeah i i know there are some bounties that are specific where they they have to be a mini app but it's also never been easier to i mean i've never built one so i don't know if i should really be saying that but like it seems like there is no better time than now to be able to build them with i mean like i also like i have to give a shout out to dylan for builders to just in general like he that is his show that he will be running dylan is like as talented as a dev as dylan is he is a fantastic devrel everything like he writes better documentation than maybe most devs if not all devs that i've seen like there's just a level of like polish and detail and and overall like utility to them that are so helpful like even like the thing that he pushed for the farcon mini app where he pulled in all the icebreaker data i was like hey you clearly know like my docs better than me like i was like surprised at how easy and quickly he was able to spin that up so i do think between like the the specific like guides that bounty presenters are putting together dylan's overall hacking guide far hack like there will be no shortage of resources and also there's a ton of devrel and consumer like ecosystem leads that are going to be at builders' day and they will also be there sort of like at everyone's disposal so between all of those things and then an abundance of ai tools i am very bullish on the projects that are gonna come out of this

61:01Speaker 1

and we're we actually have ohana ai coming on on monday so we'll be talking with them and what they're doing and and that's like a whole other way to create a mini app using ai so that's what afrochicks naomi used for hers so that'll be a cool thing too for those who might be interested but yeah i'm so

61:24Speaker 0

bummed the meta i'm so bummed the meta is all mini apps and not ai bots i've spent six months seven months building ai bots i finally learned a little bit i'm like damn it now i need to

61:36Speaker 2

adrienne the the meta the meta in three months is gonna be the convergence of the two like i think you are right on time you are early and right on time i think

61:44Speaker 1

yep i agree that

61:46Speaker 2

i'm interested in i'm interested in seeing you build that i think there's i think there's appetite from other builders there that would wanna be that would wanna do something like that

61:55Speaker 1

i think it's both yeah i think both things can work together i agree with you okay emma as we wrap up here what anything else that you want folks to know about farcon or anything else we can help amplify for you as we head into the week

62:11Speaker 2

yeah i think you know maybe like at the top level like my brain is like in a logistics space like you need a ticket for builders day and you need a ticket for the summit and outside of i think three people that won't be in town on friday everyone that has a ticket to builders day has a ticket to the summit and just show up like show up in the morning i think show up as close to 08:30 or like in that you know early morning time frame just to maximize your time with everyone and yeah and like enjoy enjoy the day that's i mean that's that's like it's show up like the logistic is just show up and definitely carve out some time to figure out what side events you wanna go to and wanna rsvp to i think most of them have some sort of like space limitation or and aren't just like a casual a casual meetup but yeah we're super we're excited to do more announcements around bounties and judges and i think everyone will be really pleased with the programming surprises we have

63:15Speaker 1

i'm excited i'm very excited there's so and there's so much going on i'm gonna be trying to get to as many things as possible and taking some film at those as well as we'll be we'll be you know posting things we're mostly gonna be just recording rather than live streaming so the far con summit for example is being everything's being professionally recorded we will be dropping all of those talks the next week so if you're not attending don't worry we've got you covered but we're really excited to be partnering and i can't wait for all the things i cannot wait it's going to be so much fun so i but i'm also stressed but i cannot

63:58Speaker 2

believe it's i cannot believe it's it's next week a lot yeah yeah it's a lot but yeah it'll be i think it'll be i mean it has be great but like i it'll be i think it'll be great having everyone in in one place and i i will also say maybe like the a closing a closing thought that we were reflecting on the last couple of weeks is we we know the the traditional conference model which isn't a bad one is like it is everyone knows it's like you have like this big matrix of sponsorship packages and you basically just start are turning things around and it's like this like mega marketing marketing and exposure rubik's cube like that's what it is and i think that there are a lot of people of course that obviously find that sort of like either inauthentic or it's just like it's it's not really like congruent with whatever community or or you know thing like a community ethos essentially and so when we first started really like working on this seven months ago six seven months ago which is like crazy to think about we oh yeah really cognizant of like you know we want there to be really like for our castor native companies and projects and vcs and builders and that is sort of like the core audience and so across both builders day and the summit every single company or project that that is involved as a partner or is activating in the space has been an inbound inquiry like we had zero outbound zero outreach for any level of partnership or or sponsorship money that came in for the event it was all inbound and at least half of them came in within forty eight hours of us announcing

65:38Speaker 1

and then you were turning people away

65:40Speaker 2

crazy oh yeah and also we turned down so yeah so we turned down a lot of money from companies or projects that just weren't weren't farfaster native or just like there wasn't an an obvious sort of synergy which i think i

65:55Speaker 1

would just think about that if you've ever been to any conference especially a crypto conference they don't do that they don't turn things down

66:02Speaker 2

no the truth

66:03Speaker 1

they're like we'll just make another booth over here

66:06Speaker 2

yeah yeah yeah we'll find a corner for you and and that's that's not you know there's no there's no criticism of you know obviously we were very humbled by anyone that wanted to to give us money when we had no plan no venue no anything like it was just like early to be like we are doing this in new york this year but we i feel i feel really like proud of the of the vetting and sort of like the filtering that our our team did around like what makes the most sense and a lot of that also as you can imagine with inbound i mean you guys i'm including you in this in group too where you were like anything you need like let us know like you we had no we and so i think that that also allowed us to work with partners like you guys and sort of get on a call and be like what is like the optimal orientation for like what you do and like where is the biggest impact thing that you can do and so for a lot of a lot of there were a lot of projects that like fit better in builders day versus the summit or vice versa or said like we really feel strongly about driving x experience like what is the best place for us to do it and by the way a lot of that also ended up just being like we're gonna pass and do a side event and we yeah were like super supportive of that so i think that there's there's a lot of intention behind obviously all the activations that happened but also like the partners that you know every single partner that was there was inbound and early and we basically like locked all of them up like two months ago like we

67:33Speaker 1

i know it's crazy it's been which

67:35Speaker 2

is great locked down

67:35Speaker 1

for a while yeah i still have people coming to me asking for tickets this week and i'm like no no no no

67:42Speaker 2

and now first of all i don't have any

67:45Speaker 1

second of all like no like this needed to happen two months ago you can't know but what the other thing i keep saying however there's lots of side events that are going on

67:57Speaker 2

yeah it yeah even if you're still coming

67:59Speaker 1

there's a lot of opportunity to still mix and mingle with a lot of people from farcaster if for some reason you miss the boat and you're gonna be in new york or you decide to come to new york there are a lot of side events happening so just look at the again the website has everything that you need yes and it's you know perfect for finding all those events right here so farcon.nyc check out the schedule it has all the things but make sure you register for the side events because a lot of them you will need to rsvp because they have space limitations as well so make sure you check that out but there's there's lots to do so if you did miss the boat on summit or builder day tickets there's lots of other opportunity to mix and mingle with your favorite forecasters so yeah alright awesome by the way i'm looking forward to the forever library i know it sounds very geeky but i'm very excited about that

69:00Speaker 2

no it's in a great it's in a great space that's actually also in williamsburg so i'm glad that that venue is getting utilized yeah

69:08Speaker 1

yeah that's gonna be fun alright opportunity

69:12Speaker 2

i can't believe i see i see you guys so soon i can't believe you guys

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for another side event no no more go partner up with the existing ones it's too many alright yeah we're gonna see you next week i'm very excited and we'll be back monday we'll be i'm sure talking about far con again we're gonna be talking about it next week as well monday and tuesday we'll be on and then we'll be in new york and occasionally we'll be posting things on the timeline keeping you up to date on what's happening while we're there and then the week after we'll have so much content to be share sharing with you we're gonna be doing interviews with a lot of folks while we're there we're it's gonna be so much fun i'm super excited so that's it for us for today happy friday everybody and we will see you again on monday that'll be 08:30am eastern our usual time so we'll see you then and with that everyone bye bye